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2141  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: POLL - which coins are scams as defined in the OP? on: April 29, 2016, 04:17:47 AM
scam dev is when dev keep hyping about his ability and promise about the next big coin he is about to make and he never did make one. nevertheless he still able to badmouthing other coin project which already delivering product.

shame on you scam dev, shame on you....

That would be a sham dev, not a scam dev. Can't really scam anyone unless products and/or money are exchanged.

If someone sells me a Justin Beiber CD and tells me it's Death Metal, then they scammed me. If Justin Beiber tells me he's playing guitar for a Death Metal band, then he's a sham, or phony, or liar--but he'd need to sell me tickets to his pop concert or to a Metal show that doesn't exist for it to be a scam.

Do you see the difference?

As for your not-so-subtle attack on TPTB_need_war, he's working on something, has proved that he excels at analyzing complex systems, and has a deeper than most here understanding of math, so some of his bravado is warranted, though whether he finishes his current project or how much of an impact it makes remains to be seen. But given you've kept to your noob namesake and have perpetually backed a poorly built coin, you are hardly in a position to judge, unless you aren't a noob trader and are actually a long standing troll with a long standing agenda of criticizing anyone who criticizes the alt project you are backing--then you'd be the sham, and the equivalent of a bad actor prating on the stage with the same tired lines and 2-dimensial character development.
2142  Other / Meta / Re: Since the dash progress thread is just an ANN page, should.... on: April 28, 2016, 07:47:12 PM
This section is meant to be a free section, where anyone could make a thread for even the dumbest question, ex: Does XY coin have a website? Does XY coin have a block explorer? Will XY coin get dumped to 0?

So after knowing and seeing this since months/years (I'm pretty sure you didn't join the forum yesterday), you really feel that you need to open another autistic anti-dash thread where you complain that they opened a progress thread?

Should I open a thread where I throw in the question: Do you think the monero trolls should open another anti-dash thread or is *insert a huge number here* enough?

Oh and I'll add some s here because the number of anti-dash threads has grown exponentially since their BTC-E addition.

Yeah, you should open that up--at least it will be a discussion and not a bunch of links to dashers circle jerking around effigies of Evan.
2143  Other / Meta / Since the dash progress thread is just an ANN page, should.... on: April 28, 2016, 03:36:51 PM
Looks like dashers gamed the system, but should they have all the fun?
2144  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: DASH added to BTC-E. Monero not on: April 28, 2016, 01:50:40 PM
"Oh, I didn't know that, I'm new here"

You do see that a fair amount. I don't happen to have a link for that one, but I know I've seen it within the past month or two. If there were never anyone new here, we should just all leave, because, well, that's going to happen anyway as people leave one by one. It isn't, as much as it may seem that way sometimes.

But anyway, that's off topic for this thread I believe.



And there will be no one new if you keep up the attitude compulsive disorder with your friends so you might just want to start the exodus.

The whole idea that you can't criticize a coin for a bad launch or bad design is absurd. Look at the Bitcoin threads and you'll see devs, critics, investors, and speculators all trying to figure out the good and bad of Bitcoin's design. My guess is that if the alt coin section became one big circle jerk of hype and moon promises, that no one serious would stick around--it would be just speculators looking to jump from one pump to another.

Anyways,  I'll let you get back to your positive "Monero, you mad bro?" thread.
2145  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the bitmonero/monero Ninjalaunched Cripplemined Fastmine matters on: April 28, 2016, 07:04:43 AM
With a coin like dash that uses a paynode scheme, all you need to do is keep reinvesting and you are guaranteed a greater percent of the stake

There are masternode costs involved, security and technical know-how costs (if you don't have the skills, you have to pay others to do it for you) as well as investment dilution by PoW mining.

This is not proof of stake where you have 1000 coins and they are giving you interest, 'just because'.

You mean people aren't just cutting most of these costs out by using Amazon hosting services? Also, these costs (as usual) skip the fact that 30% of the current coins were mined in two days at minimal costs, so not taking that as a factor in the centralization we are discussing is plain old ignoring the facts that matter most. We can see that Bitcoin's early adopters were replaced by the Chinese, who through competition, won mining power--with dash we have to make assumptions, and a lot of them, in order to assume that it is or isn't being redistributed through competition. I'd assume not--since it makes a lot more sense to hold the initial cheap coins and get a 10-50% APR. But my guess is you are assuming that people use OSPEC for hosting nodes and sold their coins without rebuying at lower costs--I would call this "the strategically incompetent redistribution plan" or "after the fact rationalization of best distribution."
2146  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the bitmonero/monero Ninjalaunched Cripplemined Fastmine matters on: April 28, 2016, 05:54:37 AM
"paying coins to existing owners is not distribution" ... what an argument ... do you care to explain why this not applies to every coin? - you do realize that almost every miner is not just mining one block, but instead uses his miner to mine for a certain time - which means that he is already an existing owner ...

Sorry, that was not as clear as it should be. I meant not paying to existing "owners", but proportionately to existing ownership. That is effectively a "stock split" and does not distribute anything. There are other issues with how Dash does it but they are out of the scope of the overall rate of distribution so off topic for this thread.

With mining, it is not in any way proportional to existing ownership. In fact your example demonstrates this as if you continue mining (without selling) your ownership goes up but your rate of mining does not.

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so how do you distribute coins in your view?

There are many different ways to do this with various positives and negatives. As long as they are not proportional to ownership, they actually accomplish something, at least.

ok, and not ok Cheesy
"your ownership goes up but your rate of mining does not." - i do not exactly agree with that ... i guess i see what you want to say with "ownership", so if i mine bitcoin i have bitcoin in my ownership and if i buy new mining hardware, to mine even more bitcoin, i decrease my "ownership", right?
But that seems only like a word play.
In the end the profits from mining are also increasing the hashing power because you could buy new hardware, even if the ownership is going down for the purchase of new hardware it's just a question of time until you got a 100% ROI on the new mining hardware and so in fact your ownership and your mining rate goes up, too !!

What you seem to be skipping here is that competition for cheaper electricity and hardware costs may or may not result in you getting your reinvestment back--AFAIK, Bitcoin has proved that early miners lost that competition to Chinese miners. With a coin like dash that uses a paynode scheme, all you need to do is keep reinvesting and you are guaranteed a greater percent of the stake--unless of course you can attack other node operators to lower the masternode count and increase the ROI%--which gives you the problem of having an inefficient system bent on cannibalizing resources.  
2147  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: DASH added to BTC-E. Monero not on: April 28, 2016, 05:07:06 AM
Im actually quite impressed that dash has made it this far. Even with all the dramas ive heard it still seems to be holding a good value. Im still not sure if it would be worth investing in though,still seems like it might be quite a big gamble. Especially since prices are quite high. It would mean quite a large investment to make any money back,

If you have doubts, simply don't invest. And in contrast to sanctimonious smooth who tries reverse psychology on unsuspecting potential Monero victims when he says something like that, I actually mean this.

Dude, there is no reverse psychology. By far, most of my net worth is non-crypto and by far most of my crypto net worth (which even includes a bit of Dash) is Bitcoin. I'm not a true believer in any of these coins by any means, especially any alts, so when I tell people this coin or that coin is not a good (or at best a dangerous) investment, I really mean it, and I practice what I preach.

Anyway, congrats to Dash. Getting recognized by a major exchange is a significant event.

nice. the monero people would be jumping for joy if they got listed by a major exchange. and i too would be the first to congratulate them.

Did you ever congratulate them when Monero was paired with coins on Poloniex?
2148  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: DASH added to BTC-E. Monero not on: April 27, 2016, 06:31:52 PM


Monero right now.



Dash right now.

Nice one  Grin

I bet she plays football as well Evan designs coins.
2149  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the bitmonero/monero Ninjalaunched Cripplemined Fastmine matters on: April 27, 2016, 05:56:28 PM
Haven't seen any of that alleged "evidence". Only evidence in here so far is that Monero was intentionally released as a cripplemine to the public rendering it a scam.

Do you have evidence that it was intentional?

Do you have evidence that it affects the coin negatively, as in invalidating any of its claims of decentralization or privacy?

If you don't have evidence of one, then you're left with the thread's title being false and a complete waste of time. As an example: I can show that dash is an oligarchy, whether intentional or not, due to the way their paynode scheme works. These systems are designed to work trustlessly, so any hiccups (intentional or not) should be invalidated by the design, not left-up to the good or bad intentions of those who are engaged with it.

Still waiting.....
2150  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: DASH added to BTC-E. FAILero not :D :D on: April 27, 2016, 04:20:23 PM
Yay, another XMR versus DASH thread. These 2 communities are the most annoying here on the forum. We get it already XMR has no wallet and DASH was instamined...let's move on.

Kindly STFU.

The entirety of the Dash community never gave a single flying fuck about Moronero. Most of them never even heard of Moanero before.
Before what? Before they started a 2 year smear and harassment campaign of relentless shitposting, flaming and trolling on all available channels. The disgusting behaviour of Trollero made them universally hated in this forum as evidenced here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066829.0

Dash reacting and countering the bullshit accusations of Failero does not make our community the bad guys for defending ourselves against these degenerates. Had Monero stfu nothing would have happened so if you wanna complain, be their guest: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.0

But leave Dash out of it.

If I sold all my monero tomorrow, I'd still be calling Dash what it is - instamined, weaksauce privacy wannabe coin. Hating dash doesn't need an ulterior motive - it can suck on its own. Smiley

Tell me the source address of this transaction then if it's oh so weak:

Dash De-anonymization Contest

Icebreaker and other trolleros: I have donated $1 to Monero's development team. I sent 0.25 Dash (TX ID: 59d51690d4b56ddbf1e393fa8d3a49bcfc3247f270f36be3b6ee411802666cba-000) to shapeshift.io, which converted it to Bitcoin and sent it to the official Monero donation address listed at https://getmonero.org/getting-started/donate/.

I challenge you to de-anonymize this transaction. To make it just a little easier, I only used four rounds of Darksend, so it's exponentially less private than it would be with the maximum eight rounds.

Please tell me what address this transaction originated from.

Cheers!

I can't remember, but I think you inspired this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430839.msg14509987#msg14509987
2151  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: DASH added to BTC-E. Monero not on: April 27, 2016, 02:58:43 PM
It just goes to show that XMR can have the best technology in the world but if they don't have money for promotion then they can't succeed.

Dash's instamine was the best thing that could have happened to Dash. It's important to be able to buy marketing.

It doesn't matter how big the Monero community is... it could be the biggest community in the world but if there's no money in the pot for promotion it's always going to be on the losing foot.

Take Bernie Sanders... arguably the biggest community with the best tech, but stands no chance next to Hillary Clinton.

I know many people in the Bitcoin and Monero community are sour grapes about the fact Evan Duffield is a millionaire and Dash has greater exchange adoption. But this is the nature of the playground.

The truth is, people are driven by greed, whether that be Dash speculators, exchange owners, or developers.

You gotta have the money bro, else you can't party!!  Grin  Cheesy  Grin

You can't market bad design out of a coin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443867.0

The proof is in the pudding. You can market bad design. How else do you explain greater exchange adoption?

And I'm sure that perpetual motion machine you just bought will work forever.  Roll Eyes

What I said was "You can't market bad design out of a coin."
2152  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: DASH added to BTC-E. Monero not on: April 27, 2016, 02:26:24 PM
It just goes to show that XMR can have the best technology in the world but if they don't have money for promotion then they can't succeed.

Dash's instamine was the best thing that could have happened to Dash. It's important to be able to buy marketing.

It doesn't matter how big the Monero community is... it could be the biggest community in the world but if there's no money in the pot for promotion it's always going to be on the losing foot.

Take Bernie Sanders... arguably the biggest community with the best tech, but stands no chance next to Hillary Clinton.

I know many people in the Bitcoin and Monero community are sour grapes about the fact Evan Duffield is a millionaire and Dash has greater exchange adoption. But this is the nature of the playground.

The truth is, people are driven by greed, whether that be Dash speculators, exchange owners, or developers.

You gotta have the money bro, else you can't party!!  Grin  Cheesy  Grin

You can't market bad design out of a coin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443867.0
2153  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom Game Design on: April 27, 2016, 07:50:32 AM
I get the need for the all powerful d20, but can we add a point accrual system? A way to bank points to spend when there is an especially important roll. Or even a way to bank/spend points prior to a roll? Probably not realistic to implement ATM, but as the game becomes more automated it might make a nice addition.
2154  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the darkcoin/dash instamine matters on: April 27, 2016, 05:50:57 AM
how many bitmonero, bmr, mro, xmr monero were cripplemined the first 3 months? 

the question they don't want to answer. 

Ask an objective question (in which case you can answer it from a block explorer, etc.) or might as well just make up your own answer.


I really thought you are an expert in making own assumptions and giving your own answers after all that bullshit i read from you on dash ... how often did you tell us eduffield has mined almost every xcoin within the instamine days? *facepalm* (or are you in blockchain analysis now, and can prove any of the "instamine scam" - "eduffield mined almost 2 mio coins" bullshit?!)

I really hate people throwing shit, and then if the shit hits the fan, and comes back to their own face, they just say, "hey that's something totally different" LOL

Questions:

How many dash were mined in the first two hours?

How many xmr were mined in the first two hours?

How many dash were mined in the first two days?

How many xmr were mined in the first two days?

How many dash were mined in first two months?

How many xmr were mined in first two months?

How much emissions were cut from dash's total supply?

How much emissions were cut from xmr's total supply?

Do the early mining totals potentially affect dash's power centralization (yes/no)? And if so, to what potential degree?

Do the early mining totals potentially affect xmr's power centralization (yes/no)? And if so, to what potential degree?



My guess is no dasher will answer these questions with just the numbers filled in--they will attempt to skew and spin, but never answer in a straight forward and direct manner (if at all).
2155  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Dash fails decentralization on: April 27, 2016, 05:46:50 AM
how many bitmonero, bmr, mro, xmr monero were cripplemined the first 3 months?  

the question they don't want to answer.  

Ask an objective question (in which case you can answer it from a block explorer, etc.) or might as well just make up your own answer.


I really thought you are an expert in making own assumptions and giving your own answers after all that bullshit i read from you on dash ... how often did you tell us eduffield has mined almost every xcoin within the instamine days? *facepalm* (or are you in blockchain analysis now, and can prove any of the "instamine scam" - "eduffield mined almost 2 mio coins" bullshit?!)

I really hate people throwing shit, and then if the shit hits the fan, and comes back to their own face, they just say, "hey that's something totally different" LOL

Questions:

How many dash were mined in the first two hours?

How many xmr were mined in the first two hours?

How many dash were mined in the first two days?

How many xmr were mined in the first two days?

How many dash were mined in first two months?

How many xmr were mined in first two months?

How much emissions were cut from dash's total supply?

How much emissions were cut from xmr's total supply?

Do the early mining totals potentially affect dash's power centralization (yes/no)? And if so, to what potential degree?

Do the early mining totals potentially affect xmr's power centralization (yes/no)? And if so, to what potential degree?



My guess is no dasher will answer these questions with just the numbers filled in--they will attempt to skew and spin, but never answer in a straight forward and direct manner (if at all).
2156  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the bitmonero/monero Ninjalaunched Cripplemined Fastmine matters on: April 27, 2016, 05:38:53 AM
how many bitmonero, bmr, mro, xmr monero were cripplemined the first 3 months?  

the question they don't want to answer.  

Ask an objective question (in which case you can answer it from a block explorer, etc.) or might as well just make up your own answer.


I really thought you are an expert in making own assumptions and giving your own answers after all that bullshit i read from you on dash ... how often did you tell us eduffield has mined almost every xcoin within the instamine days? *facepalm* (or are you in blockchain analysis now, and can prove any of the "instamine scam" - "eduffield mined almost 2 mio coins" bullshit?!)

I really hate people throwing shit, and then if the shit hits the fan, and comes back to their own face, they just say, "hey that's something totally different" LOL

Questions:

How many dash were mined in the first two hours?

How many xmr were mined in the first two hours?

How many dash were mined in the first two days?

How many xmr were mined in the first two days?

How many dash were mined in first two months?

How many xmr were mined in first two months?

How much emissions were cut from dash's total supply?

How much emissions were cut from xmr's total supply?

Do the early mining totals potentially affect dash's power centralization (yes/no)? And if so, to what potential degree?

Do the early mining totals potentially affect xmr's power centralization (yes/no)? And if so, to what potential degree?

2157  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The impact of bad crypto (DASH, SDC, etc). How much does math matter? on: April 26, 2016, 06:33:32 PM
How quickly Alex forgets--must have dementia or something.  Huh

I never asked for NSA proof transactions, nor was I promised them, but I would like protection from non-state actors, and if the right network evolves within I2p or TOR or something else, then a coin that can be NSA proof would be even better, so no dash, yes Monero.

What part of "untraceable" and "nobody" don't you get?

..."nobody can trace your transfers unless you decide so"

Yeah, well, I didn't decide that I wanted the government to know what I'm transacting Cry

Monero #SCAM #REKT  Cry Cry Cry
XMR #snakeoil  Cry Cry Cry

Again, you're conflating metadata that requires your OSPEC to be on point and the network you are interacting with not to leek information with Monero's technology--so this is like blaming a car company for traffic accidents caused by the absence of a stop sign. The car company can only do so much, but in dash's case they forgot the airbags and brakes.




Against the NSA yes I stand by the assertion that IP address correlation unmasks, overlapping rings unmask, etc. It all adds up if you are trying to hide from governments, then I don't trust Monero or any anonymous coin. Notice I wrote "privacy" and not anonymity in prior post upthread. For privacy, I think Monero is suitable and Dash is not (because not autonomous End-to-End).
2158  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The impact of bad crypto (DASH, SDC, etc). How much does math matter? on: April 24, 2016, 07:33:14 PM
Animosity is not good. We're just having fun here with our altcoins (or "shitcoins" for others - depending one's view I guess) Cheesy

Just 5 minutes of anger can cause one's immune system to underperform for up to 7-10 hours or so.

On the other hand, 5 minutes of loving feelings (gratitude, appreciation) can have the same positive effect to the immune system, extending for several hours.

The "battle mode" that one might engage in while foruming and debating in troll threads, is not really conductive to one's health. It must be viewed as a fun exercise.

My father was a genius (he was a code breaker during WWII and into the Korean War) and my mother was a schizophrenic, and while my father's logic skill set and knowledge base were vastly superior to my Mother's, she regularly won arguments by using emotional triggers to get him out of his game--that education has served me well for BCT (don't let the them anger or frustrate you with the same invalidated points over and over again or attempt to steal the narrative, but find creative and efficient ways to bolster the important points, and when they just hand you one, well....).
2159  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The impact of bad crypto (DASH, SDC, etc). How much does math matter? on: April 24, 2016, 07:13:43 PM
Well you are both right, lol.

Let AlexGR have his small point victory. Perhaps Monero could put an * footnote on their slogan.

The larger more salient point is generalizethis'.

I wonder if Alex was a king in a previous life--maybe King of Epirus?  Tongue
2160  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The impact of bad crypto (DASH, SDC, etc). How much does math matter? on: April 24, 2016, 06:55:37 PM
I never asked for NSA proof transactions, nor was I promised them, but I would like protection from non-state actors, and if the right network evolves within I2p or TOR or something else, then a coin that can be NSA proof would be even better, so no dash, yes Monero.

What part of "untraceable" and "nobody" don't you get?

..."nobody can trace your transfers unless you decide so"

Yeah, well, I didn't decide that I wanted the government to know what I'm transacting Cry

Monero #SCAM #REKT  Cry Cry Cry
XMR #snakeoil  Cry Cry Cry

Again, you're conflating metadata that requires your OSPEC to be on point and the network you are interacting with not to leek information with Monero's technology--so this is like blaming a car company for traffic accidents caused by the absence of a stop sign. The car company can only do so much, but in dash's case they forgot the airbags and brakes.




Against the NSA yes I stand by the assertion that IP address correlation unmasks, overlapping rings unmask, etc. It all adds up if you are trying to hide from governments, then I don't trust Monero or any anonymous coin. Notice I wrote "privacy" and not anonymity in prior post upthread. For privacy, I think Monero is suitable and Dash is not (because not autonomous End-to-End).
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