It is not upon anyone else but the project management to decide about the pay worthiness of a post.
I'm in absolute disagreement. Why should I have to sit through someone posting shit and getting rewarded for it, because someone who is too lazy to properly do their job decided that they should be allowed to do so? Why should the other people that disagree with this, just sit around and let it happen? Because someone being paid by a some ICO has ultimate authority? This has nothing to do with trust anymore but everything with destroying people's accounts just for subjective morbid reasons.
Extremely poor English is not subjective. Anyone that is a speaker of any decent capacity of a language can tell good or bad interpretation of it. Empty, useless posts are also objectively bad. Rehashing the same empty words such as: " $ 20,000 is a good price. I can not stand to observe the growth rate of bitcoin. Every price increase of $ 1000 can result in a drop of $ 2,000 in the future. I constantly catch myself thinking that I don't want bitcoin to go up. But it seems to me that bitcoin is already so dispersed that no one will stop until it will fall." Cannot possibly be seen as a decent post by anyone. Any chimp with a typewriter can write drivel such as that, and these people deserve to be paid for such, because some lazy campaign manager says so? The trust moderation is a shitshow.
Trust moderation doesn't exist, by design. Nowhere in forum rules or even trust instructions is negative tagging related to post quality.
Nowhere in the forum rules does it say that you cannot scam people. There are no 'trust instructions', there are guidelines. Guidelines that were written in a time where spam wasn't such a big of an issue. Guidelines that are just advice, not rules. It has nothing to do with trustability. Such taggings are abuse.
I can absolutely agree that tagging isn't the best way to do it, and I hope that these taggings will decrease as the merit system finds it's feet. However, when left with no other option, the worst one sometimes becomes the best. |
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As if the bounty manager of this user cannot decide upon that. Really disgusting behaviour again.
Just because a campaign manager can decide upon someone's post quality doesn't mean that they do. If campaign managers could be trusted to do their jobs then this forum wouldn't have had anywhere near as bad of a spam problem, however (in some cases) they cannot. |
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Great script grue, thanks! Just a little thing though, when I tried installing and using the script it would tell me 'Failed to give merit' whenever I tried to reward it. I found that this was a session error due to how you get 'sc'. I've made a small fix here (on lines 12-14), which works for me currently: //get csrf token
var sc = $('input[name="sc"][type="hidden"]').val();
sc = (!sc ? ($('a[onclick]')[1].href).split('sesc=')[1] : sc);
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But, to be fair, this is the most popular bitcoin forum by far. Going to another forum (or worst, creating a new one as suggested by others) is impractical because there would be to few people there.
It may be the case that this forum is the most popular, however that doesn't necessarily mean that there would be too few people on others. Other than perhaps bitco.in/forum, each of the sources I posted there has hundreds/thousands of users that you can converse with about whatever subject takes your mind. I would certainly say that that is more than enough people to have a decent back and forth, and I personally have had extremely good times on forums with much less of an active population. |
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Thanks for links to different forums. However, if I leave Bitcointalk forum, I have to start from zero at another. So sad to imagine the scenario like this.
And please, pray tell, does it matter about where you start from if you are going to a forum for good conversation? Granted there may be some restrictions in place, but I can't imagine that these are anything worse than what you went through to start posting here. So why did you go through it here? Oh wait, I know. Because your rank was directly monetized, and that is something that you can't get on other forums. So why bother, right? |
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If there were an alternative most of us would be gone already probably.
There are multiple alternatives to Bitcointalk. Here are a few examples: bitco.in/forum, forum.bitcoin.com, r/Bitcoin, r/btc, And the very many other Bitcoin/Crypto related subreddits. Hell, there's even the many Git repos of Bitcoin related projects or the dev mailing lists or Slack/IRC channels if you want to be technical. You even mentioned wanting to fork Bitcointalk a few days ago, well here's the software. Or maybe you'd prefer this one. The truth is that the majority of people are on this forum because you can't earn money from any of those alternatives. I absolutely welcome the idea of those people, those only here for money, fucking off and moving to another forum to spread their shit. I sincerely hope that the merit system is a step towards this. I think that people who say this say it because it's convenient. You have a million and one other options for conversation, if that's what you really want - but it's so much easier to complain about moderation, or the systems in place on one than actually try to be a part of the other. Right? |
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Answer my question above 1st?
Which one? The amount of unreadable questions you are asking in this thread seems to be increasing by the second. |
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Is it because you are Hero Member so he doesn't censure you even you did the same thing as me.
Being unable to claim airdrops doesn't censor you. You're more challenged than you seem if you think so. |
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Lmao, are you threatening me? It seems to be.
It's pretty clear that he isn't. You should perhaps work on parsing English before assuming such things. But I made my words above, I won't argue with un-educated people, waste of my time.
I have to ask. Do you genuinely think that you're going to achieve anything? Do you think that Durr_1412 is going to be the saviour of all bounty hunters and shitposters alike? Say something here please. Don't try to kiss ass people.
Shame on you.
People not saying anything doesn't mean that they are scared to. It could mean that they don't agree with you. |
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Quick guys, Lauda did something! Someone make a thread!
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I have a crazy ideal for this merit system, just cross over my minds. How about we reset everyone's merits in this forum back to 0 ? The current activities will be kept as usual but everybody in this forum have to be contributing to get back their ranks?
I wouldn't necessarily be against a decrease in the merits given to each user, but I'm not sure that resetting to 0 would be the best idea. If this were to happen, only the few merit sources would be able to actually give any merit to posts, making merit severely limited for a while and making it extremely difficult for anyone to rank up. With the 'airdrop' of merit, it allows those previously active on the forum to give merit to users where they see fit, rather than having to wait/ask for a source to do it for them. |
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Actually all you have to do is look at this page to get a pretty good idea of who the merit sources are. Perhaps in a few weeks or so, but I don't think this is the case currently. |
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However, if devs want to create such as Merit thing, THEY SHOULD INVENT ONE MORE LEVEL HIGHER THAN LEGENDARY. So everyone work for that. In this topic, "Do you think those Legendary people feel comfortable, free, happy and lucky about this merit score come out?"
This was discussed quite a while ago, and I think that theymos said he was open to the idea when enough people turn Legendary. Perhaps you should properly propose that idea, I'd be happy to join in. |
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Da hell is happening right now? Am I wrong: somebody will require payment from me to wear signature ads? lol what? and in addition, removing them?
Yes, you are wrong. Do you see the words 'I have mostly ruled out' above those suggestions? However, the first of theymos' suggestions have been implemented: 1. To attain ranks above Member, you'd have to earn some number of merit points. Merit points would be awarded in a monthly vote on best posts of the previous month, with various measures (TBD) to prevent gaming of the vote. Winning merit points might also come with a BTC prize.
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So can I...continue posting, ooooor?
Only if the next post of yours is revealing all of your alt accounts. The gangsta's eyes are always watching. |
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This can be a hassle for people using mobile. Making the merit link open to a new tab is fairly easy so I don't see any reason why they shouldn't implement this. on the anchor tag should do the trick. This was implemented previously, and then removed. You can read about why here. |
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Which currency am I talking about?
Merit isn't a currency, and has nothing to do with a currency.
It would be fair to introduce new rules after January 30.
But then what about the other people that are one week away from achieving the next rank? It'd be unfair to them to change it on Jan 30th, so it should be pushed back. But then what about the people that are now one period away from ranking up? Do you see where I'm going with this? |
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Is there a link to the explanation of the merit system as it is implemented?
The thread by theymos would be a good place to start. If you trust someone you give him merit and if you distrust someone you don't give him merit.
Merit is given based on the quality of posts, and is a finite resource. I can understand the comparison to the trust system, but they aren't as alike as it may seem. |
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Merits are permanent, and I think that's good. It gives the merit you reward someone a certain finality.
You can't flip forward and backwards with it, you make this decision, and you stick with it. It gives the act of rewarding merit a certain gravity.
I'm not so sure. If someone, for example, sells their account and the post quality drops dramatically, I think it would make sense to be able to remove the merit given to the account previously.
where to check how much sMerit I still have?
You can find that on the Merit page. |
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