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561  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Possibly the rarest crypto coin in existance for sale! Jetcoin coin ! on: May 15, 2017, 08:16:29 PM
especially on a sub-forum that embraces auctions for all forms of Bitcoin paraphernalia, coins, books, art, etc.
Jetcoin isn't Bitcoin.



If elianite wants to waste his money on a collectible for a currency that will be even more irrelevant as time goes by then he can be my guest, though I can't say I much like the attitude of praising him for doing so. If I waste my money on a bunch of worthless shit I am an idiot, not a saint.



Also, anyone trying to pull "it's value comes with time" is just being silly. Value comes to anything with age, it doesn't mean that it has any more value currently.
If you disagree, will you buy a box of my cat's shit for $30? It will become more valuable eventually.
562  Other / Meta / Re: Lauda has Broken the GuideLine of the Trust System by theymos own words, ban her on: May 14, 2017, 01:26:59 AM
It is interesting that with a admitted flawed trust system, and an over aggressive ex staff member,
that all of you want to blame the one pointing out the flaws and instead of agreeing something needs to be done to fix the system
Please, enlighten us on how we can fix the system.
It's extremely easy to say that a system is broken. Providing a fix that makes sense and doesn't just move the issues somewhere else is significantly harder.

you all just want @kiklo to shut up and be quiet.
Which he refused to do (many older people stand their ground) and was banned for it (which is further punishment for what many people see as @Lauda's overly aggressive nature.)
I couldn't care about what kiklo does providing he does it in a decent manner. However, he isn't.

When you call @kiklo a hypocrite for hitting everyone associated with @Lauda with negative trust,
I went to look at his account and see for myself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=357609
their are no other negative feedbacks save the one against @Lauda.
kiklo's other negative feedbacks were removed. You would have to ask an admin why.
Previous to this, kiklo left negative feedback to Mitchell, phantastisch, qwk, Zepher, Lutpin, monbux and many others simply because they had relations to Lauda in some way. This isn't a fair way to go about doing things, and is extremely hypocritical when you're complaining about negative feedback being given for little to no reason.

Yet to the casual looker @Lauda is completely trustworthy while @kiklo is covered in red / untrustworthy, when numerically he has less complaints.
Who would have thought, little interaction with the trust system = very few trust scores. Truly groundbreaking analysis.

It would be interesting to see how many of you , have the will to do the same when you believe you have been wronged.
I was given a negative trust when I first started using this forum. You want to know what I did about it? I had a sensible, private discussion with the user that gave me it and we worked out terms on what I had to do to have it removed. What a crazy idea, right?

@The End is Near, has been the only other one with a will strong enough to argue with the peer pressure exerted against @kiko because of a defective trust system
You're a fool if you think that kiklo handled this in a good acceptable way. He may have gotten more people on his side if he acted like an adult.

Normally , I don't have much to say, but seeing a group of elitist attack an 84 year man , that refused to buckle was more that I can in good conscience tolerate.
I truly can't understand why people are constantly bringing up kilko's apparent age as an argument. If anything, I think that it's rather demeaning that the only reason that you are sticking up for him is because he is seen as some frail old man that is incapable of fighting his own battles.
If you're someone that can't handle some punk saying something bad about you online then turn off the computer. Otherwise, age (along with wealth, social status, gender etc) is irrelevant here.

Does @Lauda continue his/her negative rating rampage and the rest continue to assault a man that was banned for life.
I shouldn't think he would be banned for life unless he broke a different rule. I expect him to be back eventually.



Because if it is not , don't expect him to be the last peasant that gets pissed off over a broken trust system.
Once again, please give us this magical fix that will make the trust system great for everyone involved.

Because if it is not , don't expect him to be the last peasant that gets pissed off over a broken trust system.
These people come and go every so often, it happens.

Because he made have been the 1st to go off this loudly, but a broken trust system will guarantee their will be more.
kiklo isn't the first big 'revolt' over the trust system and absolutely won't be the last. All that kiklo has accomplished is making a complete and utter fool of himself over some red text.



I don't view it as anything even close to a crisis, and it doesn't keep me awake at night.
You're telling me that some meaningless red text on an internet forum about magical money isn't you're number 1 priority right now? How insane.
563  Other / Archival / Re: . on: May 13, 2017, 11:33:03 PM
0.011BTC
564  Other / Archival / Re: . on: May 13, 2017, 09:12:05 PM
0.007BTC
565  Other / Meta / Re: Lauda has Broken the GuideLine of the Trust System by theymos own words, ban her on: May 13, 2017, 03:51:24 PM
Except if I am not mistaken, there is a global default trust list, and @Lauda is on that list.
Yes, you're correct.

Apparently most users are using the default trust list, because trust is not related to anything they would actively need to configure for their priority use cases.
This is a difficult case to solve. Older members complain that the Default Trust system is flawed (which it is to a degree), but if this trust system was removed then newer members would likely complain that there was nothing in place to stop them getting scammed. theymos did want to replace this system, however this replacement system had the downfall of requiring newbies to choose members that they have never interacted with to trust.

Thus as I said, a centralized GUI presentation of the trust as red text on @kiklo’s avatar on all his posts in the Altcoin Discussion retroactively into the past.
I can agree on this somewhat, however it's arguably useless to try and implement for the use that it would get.

Incorrect. Because afaik we start with a default list and have to proactively go edit out and nearly no one knows that.

The de facto trust list is centralized.
Admittedly it could be easier to find, but there is a fair amount of documentation available to anyone interested in the trust system outlining what it is and how it can be used. It's a problem with the users that they do not care to find or read it.

Four wrongs do not make it right, rather it is a clusterfuck.

1. Centralized de facto trust list for most users.
2. @Lauda knows this thus can abuse @kiklo.
3. @kiklo is told to accept this abuse, so he lashes out.
4. You guys have the wrong of blaming the clusterfuck on @kiklo accusing him of being a hypocrite.
3. kiklo was told exactly how to go about trying to change the trust left by Lauda, by Lauda themselves. It is not the fault of the system, nor the people of the forum that kiklo decided to disregard that advice and throw his toys out his cot.

4. Complaining that a user that you have never traded with has left you negative trust, then leaving negative trust to people you have never traded with makes you a hypocrite. Complaining about defamation of your character, then going to to defame the characters of people not involved makes you a hypocrite.

Cover your right eye with a patch and try to function (I was blinded in my right eye in 1999). Consume enough rat poison each day to not kill you but to be so sick that you can not think clearly, have a failing liver, have delirum, headaches and barely enough energy to get out of bed. Remove all your finances and all the people who could help you, so that you are forced to work in this condition. Welcome to my life the past years. Until you’ve actually experienced this, then you can not comprehend the reality of it. Even words do not describe what it feels like day after day after day for years, with no respite.
And the fact that you can come here and have a sensible conversation with me about these problems, even after all of the things that you have suffered through, gives kiklo no excuse to act like a child about it. Do you not agree?

My generation X had to fight for everything (not spoiled, not sheltered)
And due to certain circumstances in my life, I do not believe that I fit either of those descriptions.

I give respect to people that give respect to others. kiklo has shown through is mass amount of threads, negative feedback spam and threats of legal action that he is incapable of giving respect to others. Therefore, I see no reason to give respect to him.
566  Other / Meta / Re: Lauda has Broken the GuideLine of the Trust System by theymos own words, ban her on: May 13, 2017, 01:36:16 AM
Make a post in Altcoin Discussion and see what I did to your avatar because of this centralized decision to marry decentralized ratings with a centralized choice of shitting on avatars.
Only people who trust you can see your feedback by default on actmyname's avatar. Otherwise, it falls under 'Untrusted Feedback'.
Unlike what people like kiklo seem to think, these aren't directly hidden by theymos. Who can post a feedback that is trusted by default is decided by the user's personal trust list and/or the trust lists of those in the DT network. I can go further into detail about it if needed.

With a decentralized interpretation of Trust, then each user would in effect enable moderation of their choice on Trust ratings. So thus those users who think @Lauda is abusing the system by complaining about the way @kiklo posts, would tend to remove @Lauda from their trusted Trust raters list.
That is how the trust system works currently, which is what a huge amount of people seem to forget. If you do not want to see someone's trust ratings (whether they be trusted or untrusted by default) you can remove them on this page by inputting a ~ followed by their name. For example if you wanted to remove any ratings from Lauda being trusted by default to you, you could add this line to the trust page.
Quote
~Lauda
This would put every rating that Lauda gave into the 'Untrusted Feedback' section of the feedback page. It should be noted that, unless you are a part of the first tier of the Default Trust network, this change will only affect you personally.

Complaining about the way people debate and discuss in a Trust system is inane.
Precisely, which is why when users such as kiklo complain about it constantly they are not met with open arms. Being an enormous hypocrite in whilst doing this doesn't help the case whatsoever.

Now I understand that @kiklo is 84 years old and has chronic back pain, so that explains why he gets so agitated when he feels someone is wrong or offended his sensibilities. If he can find a way to improve his physical quality of life, probably he will be less agitated more often.
Physical factors in a person's life shouldn't affect the way that they treat others. Kiklo wouldn't, and shouldn't, get a pass for spamming the forum like a child about some red text even if he was a war veteran with terminal cancer.
If after 84 years of living you haven't managed to grasp the concept that moaning, threatening and abusing the people and systems put in place to try and help you isn't a good way to carry yourself then I don't believe you deserve any respect.
567  Other / Meta / Re: Lauda has Broken the GuideLine of the Trust System by theymos own words, ban her on: May 12, 2017, 07:43:45 AM
Guidelines aren't rules.
568  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Vanity Messages on: May 09, 2017, 07:39:59 PM
Thanks for the example. So they were sending to their own address to relay messages to their visitors. I guess the downside to these types of messages is that you have no guarantee who the sender actually is unless you also include an address that is known to be controlled by the supposed sender in the inputs.
Or send the BTC to each address like Wikileaks did.



There also appears to be a very small bug in your program.
This line:
Code:
if bool(re.search("[lIO]", term)):
should be
Code:
if bool(re.search("[lIO0]", term)):
The character '0' also isn't allowed in vanity addresses.
569  Other / Meta / Re: Is this an actual bitcointalk link or am I completely screwed now?? on: May 08, 2017, 08:09:51 PM
It's just a mangled link, someone probably used the [url] bbcode wrong. If you follow link after this part - http://%22%20https// - then you will go to the trust page of wantt0sell.
570  Other / Meta / Re: PM attempting to get me to enter my login info? on: May 07, 2017, 02:23:10 AM
This is a pretty common phishing attack going around recently. You can see another example of it here.

I know little about security stuff I guess, I am wondering if any harm could have been done by clicking the link alone or if I am fine?
AFAIK the only harm that can come from these sorts of links is if you enter your password into them. Otherwise you should be fine, however changing your passwords and running a virus scan can never hurt.

Also, just for future reference, you don't really need to make a thread if you report the PM to an admin. The skepticism about the PM is good though, always check the URL and security certificate before signing in.
571  Other / Meta / Re: I think my account was hacked and somoeone took over it on: May 06, 2017, 11:22:48 PM
OK, I have created signed Ethereum message and sent it to Cyrus as you advised. Thank you all!
You should also post that signed message here so DT users can tag your account with a negative.
572  Other / Meta / Re: Who Do I contact about getting False Negative Trust Ratings removed on: May 06, 2017, 02:33:02 PM
Email Address & IP Address are recorded by BTCTalk and the EMail Provider,
Once I have that , a warrant to the ISP and they will turn over her real name and address, the other 2 liars also.
You're very naive if you don't think Lauda has covered their tracks on either of these fronts. They are the biggest privacy freaks I know.
573  Other / Meta / Re: Where are you 'Iamnotback'? on: May 06, 2017, 12:30:59 PM
The smug confidence right before the fall off the cliff.
Did you not notice that Theymos posted in this thread.
theymos being here doesn't mean he will listen and fix any complaints that you bring up. Proof of this is in the blatant spam problem and inane account recovery system.

And yes we know he doesn't care. He took all the BTC donations apparently promising to upgrade the forum software, then never did.
This software is still in development, granted he is deciding to piss away hundreds of thousands of dollars while this development continues.

Are you somehow affiliated with the corruption?
I'm not sure how you came to this conclusion, but no. I don't have any say in the moderation or administration of this forum past the Report feature.

I think it is silly that we continue to argue. Those of you who are satisfied with BCT, then stay here. Those who are not, I may try to help us get what we want.
Agreed, I won't be posting in this thread again unless addressed. Best of luck with your project.
574  Other / Meta / Re: Why i got ban ? on: May 06, 2017, 02:26:57 AM
Also, Ron Paul has absolutely nothing to do with this post, I do not know why you are bringing him up.
He wasn't replying to you. The OP was banned because he copy-pasted a piece of text originally written by Ron Paul, actmyname was simply clarifying this.

Neither do my posts from 2016, so do not bring them up here, I will be willing to defend my position on another post regarding that issue, not here.
You're spouting about someone being a racist, but posts made by yourself indicating racism aren't relevant?
575  Other / Meta / Re: Where are you 'Iamnotback'? on: May 06, 2017, 02:20:21 AM
His point is that banning public posts is a sufficient punishment, and moderation doesn't even apply to private communication between consenting parties.
If you have broken the rules of a specific website, what obligation does that website then have to facilitate anything for you?

Banning PMs (as a punishment inducement to follow policies on public posts) is totalitarianism which is antithetical to the concept of the Internet, decentralized money, etc.. It's as laughable and ignorable as mass media creating paywalls to destroy their readership. We'll simply say "no thanks" and route around the failure. (It is as if Theymos doesn't understand that we have 100s of options for communication these days, it isn't like he can sustain the illusionary monopoly that he thinks he has).
Precisely. If someone has had to have been forcefully removed from participating in a forum I see no reason for said forum to use it's resources to help that someone to communicate, especially so when there are 100s of other (possibly easier) options for doing so.

If this problem I have with Theymos was just small misunderstanding, then yes we could try to understand each other and find a way to work it out.
If you can find a method of contacting theymos and have him listen to the problems involving this forum then you will be even more sought after than it already seems you are. theymos doesn't care.
576  Other / Meta / Re: Where are you 'Iamnotback'? on: May 06, 2017, 12:48:03 AM
Say what?  Shocked
Believe it or not, if you continue to use the forum as normal after being banned, you're then evading that ban.
If Ban Evasion wasn't an enforceable rule, then there would be no point on ever banning anyone.
577  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Alitin Mint Coin Breach on: May 04, 2017, 10:29:42 AM
What happens to victim that didnt aware about the breach?
There is nothing you can do. Sorry.
578  Other / Meta / Re: PARTIAL ANSWER TO THE SIGNATURE SPAM PROBLEM !!! on: May 03, 2017, 11:52:23 PM
People should have the freedom to do business with whomever they please. Don't like it? Log out.
Yeah man, it's totally unreasonable for someone to care about something that they've spent thousands of hours on. How dare he want to make the forum a better place for everyone that actually matters. He should just leave the forum for the next generation of quality posters who care so much for the forum, right?

Fuck off.
579  Other / Meta / Re: PARTIAL ANSWER TO THE SIGNATURE SPAM PROBLEM !!! on: May 03, 2017, 07:45:20 PM
DT Users could start tagging spammers but for a serious spam cleanup this type of moderation would have to happen on a higher level, from moderators. Tagging them at least removes their profit potential from most campaigns and would probably "burn" the account enough for them to stop using it.
Lauda tried this and they received a lot of backlash for doing so. I don't much understand why myself, perhaps it was because Lauda was doing it, but regardless.

I would report more spam posts if I could but my time is usually limited and I try to use it wisely... I'd spend more than half my time reporting posts and wouldn't have time to look or do much else.
You'd be wasting it reporting spam posts anyway. Unless these posts are copy and pasted from somewhere else there is a cat in hell's chance they would be removed.
580  Other / Meta / Re: PARTIAL ANSWER TO THE SIGNATURE SPAM PROBLEM !!! on: May 03, 2017, 03:52:19 PM
This thread is a great example.  Clean, easy to read, not choked by spammers.
You should lock the thread very soon if you want it to stay that way. It's a matter of time before the cleanliness of this thread goes down the toilet.

Here is another perfect example:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1895455.0;all
The thread where we originally tried to discuss this became unbearable:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1891830.0;all
This is also partly due to the section that the threads are in. Signature spammers don't go into the technical sub forums as they know they can't shitpost there easily. On the other hand, Bitcoin Discussion is possibly the easiest section to do so in.

And this is nowhere even close to the worst thread where I have tried to participate.
Expect it to get much worse. I'm convinced that the majority of new active members only join here to post trash with shitty altcoin signatures.
theymos doesn't care; the staff don't care, not all signature managers care. It's a matter of time before the signal to noise ratio of this forum gets to unbearable levels for the majority.
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