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2241  Other / Politics & Society / Re: First robot to solve a Rubik's Cube in under 1 second on: February 29, 2016, 03:45:41 PM
First robot to solve a Rubik's Cube in under 1 second

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEmTXN8koUg&feature=youtu.be

artificial intelligences will invade us someday in the future.. i am scared to death..
yeah even stephen hawking warns about making AI "The development of full artificial intelligence could spell the end of the human race." he said to BBC..

You sound like it is a bad thing.

Life will go on, with or without us.

I think we'll go the hybrid route rather than outright replacement.  But who knows?  We might abandon our carbon based forms and move on to silicon anyway.

If you were yourself but your body did not require food for energy, but instead it would get energy just by looking at the sun, or from a wall, would that be a bad thing?

No complications of pumping blood constantly, digestive system issues, mechanical failures, messy sex and reproduction, inability to handle extreme temperatures, pressure, g-force etc, etc.




2242  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 29, 2016, 03:17:34 PM

Whaou, impressive.

It would be something to be able to clone yourself completely...

But what about experience and knowledge? Is it only a question of neuronal connexions?
And what if you clone yourself? What will happen then seeing another you?
And if you kill your other self? Will it be a suicide or a murder? ^^

I think what is going to happen is that human mind will "evolve" very rapidly once we develop technology to backup/restore human brain complexity.
Challenge now is to map neural complexity into a data model.  Once this can be stored in some sort of model, the next step would be to first,
make a single neural connection on demand.  Once you can do that, the stored model can be used to re-generate the neural connections you have
in your brain right now.  And add more connections as desired.

The regenerative brain technology will allow for rapid expansion of brain capacity.  Imagine having brains of 1000s of people, without changing the size of your physical brain.
It will completely change how these new specie of humans will view the world.  We'll be viewed as a single threaded DOS programs. Neanderthals if you like.

Now imagine these 'Homo Turing" humans working on new science and technologies.  They will be able to advance human knowledge to completely unimaginable level.
Average kids in kindergarten will be smarter than Newton and Einstein combined.

It might go the other way, we'll abandon carbon based forms and go straight to silicon.

2243  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 29, 2016, 02:36:16 PM
Universe is not a perfect system.  It is actually very violent and very hostile to life.
How does an imperfect being such as a human begin to understand the definition of perfection? How could a mortal imagine infinity? God is everything man cannot be, yet man strives to mould himself in the likeness of God, to become like and greater than the most high. Those who have placed themselves above God deny the existence thereof, just as the mighty Satan defied God, so shall men who worship themselves be cut off from his kingdom.


And I wouldn't say 'violent towards life', more like 'chaotic'.

Man doesn't have to understand the definition of perfection. Just have (and that is easy to do) to understand and see imperfection all around us.

All you gotta do is look at all the imperfection around to see that even imperfection acts perfectly. Of course, if it didn't exist, then you could say that it didn't act at all.

Cool

So the death of my grand father by cancer was a "perfect imperfection" that's what you're telling me?

I'm not necessarily telling you anything.

What part of your grandfather's death by cancer operated outside of the laws of nature? None of it. All the laws of nature acted perfectly.

Cool

If all laws of nature acted perfectly and god was not responsible for them what is the need for a god? And if god is responsible, then I refer you to valta4065's comment.

The laws of nature act perfectly BECAUSE God is responsible for them. Here's how it worked and works yet today.

God made the laws of nature and set everything into being.

Among the laws of nature existed the ability of mankind to freely act against God, which, if mankind did it, would destroy nature and the universe... built right into the laws of nature.

Mankind DID turn against God, and nature was in the process of being destroyed almost instantly.

God didn't make nature and people for nothing. He had purpose. Part of the purpose was that people were and are the objects of God's love. Nature was part of God's gifts to us.

God realized that people didn't understand how foolish and stupid they were being by turning against Him, so He stopped the destruction by sending His Son, Jesus, to take the punishment for all people for turning against God. The work that Jesus did on the cross, actually upheld the universe and the laws of nature right from the beginning times when mankind turned against God.

God also gave mankind the thing that they asked for by their turning against God. This thing is death, and all the pains and problems that people have in life which culminate in death.

All of it operates perfectly, in a perfect nature, according to perfect natural laws. God is perfectly giving people the thing the formally asked for > death. God is giving people the thing that they thought they were asking for > better life. God is preparing a better life for those who are not against Him, in the coming resurrection.

Wake up and turn to God so that you are not permanently destroyed by your adamant obstinance in remaining against God.

Cool

So, god is responsible, then.

Bible should start with "God created Heaven, Earth and Hell".  Somehow they skipped that part.

He created Hell to torment you for eternity, but he loves you Wink



God is responsible for it all. Because having responsibility is so wonderful, He gave yours to you. Since you used your responsibility to reject God, He is giving you what you asked for... the ability to not have any responsibility for anything anymore.

But in case you change your mind, you have the ability to take responsibility again for a while... as long as your life exists. You can responsibly accept God and eternal life if you want.

Cool

You know, I played "hide and seek" until I was about 6, then go tired of it. 

God, just show your fucking face.  Otherwise, you don't exist.  End of story.

BTW, don't blame me for the mistakes of your imaginary friend.
2244  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 29, 2016, 01:17:01 PM
Now there is your time machine.  You do yearly backup when you renew your driver's license.   When you die, they'll restore your brain to the year you specified on driver license application.  Or it could be a walk-in procedure, you walk in and do a refresh from 10 years ago.  

Sort of like the movie Groundhog Day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VF5P7qLaEQ

Combined with human cloning they will be able to backup one's brain when he/she is born and then clone him/her, grow him/her, and upload the backup.  So people would never really die.

That should be doable within 20-40 years, if not sooner...

The hard part is the clone... that's gonna take another 20 years unless you want to be a baby

40 years? Are you guessing or have you read Kurzweil's book about the singularity?

Just an educated guess based on the progress of the current research

But then again, I thought we'd have flying cars too

We've got flying cars already. But nobody wants or need them.

For the cloning part, I'd say much more than that especially because there no real use to it. We still can't implement the life experience, the thoughts, and we will probably never be able to do so. Hence a clone would be a totally different person.

Hmm, that brings another question:  Is talent something that is stored in the brain at birth?  Or just a predisposition in the brain, that if exercised makes a person an arts or math genius.  I'm sure you can copy the memory, but would your brain develop the same way if you were cloned?

Pregnancy probably influences the brain development to some degree, so maybe you will never be able to clone humans exactly.  Unless technology is developed to run pregnancy in a controlled environment, even then extra care would have to be taken to duplicate the subjects exactly. 

It is like if you take two seemingly identical seeds and plant them, it is hard to get 100% identical plants.  One might get more nutrients, more water, more sunlight, less wind, no obstructions in soil etc.  Human development is several magnitudes more complicated than plant development. 



I don't see how you could copy the memory to be honest :/

And you wouldn't be able to copy the experience! Which would mean that by having a younger brain, you would also lose most of what you've learned!!!

The same way you're copying programs, apps, registry files or system files from one hard drive to another.

Yeah but you know how to copy them because you know how to store the data. Do we know how our brain stores data?

We are working on it... Wink


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Brain_Project


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRAIN_Initiative

2245  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: February 29, 2016, 01:09:59 PM

It is God who gave man music and instruments in first place to worship him. All music therefore originates from God. it is not man invention by the way.

Moloch destiny is fire and brimstone. So don't follow a looser, it is not profitable at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7EZONzP4iE

So God created man to worship Him? How much praise does one need?

That part never made any sense to me...

If I was a God, I might be interested in companionship... ya know, another dude to tell my stories... but worship?  from a bunch of ants?  why?

Must be something in the water during bronze age.

He created his Son who is him, sent him to Earth to die on the cross so that he can forgive sins of ants.  He had to die himself to forgive sins of some schmucks on 3rd rock from the Sun.  Hey, God,  you could have just forgave the sins.  Why bother with all the theatrical dying on the cross. 

You created the fucking universe, you could not forgive the sins of some insignificant bronze age schmucks?

The guy who first wrote this story was tripping on Meth.


Can't forgive the sins of gods that won't accept forgiveness.    Cool

Say whaat? Seriously BSDecker, "Who is your daddy and what does he do?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP2xnAMQ3HM
2246  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 29, 2016, 01:05:46 PM
Universe is not a perfect system.  It is actually very violent and very hostile to life.
How does an imperfect being such as a human begin to understand the definition of perfection? How could a mortal imagine infinity? God is everything man cannot be, yet man strives to mould himself in the likeness of God, to become like and greater than the most high. Those who have placed themselves above God deny the existence thereof, just as the mighty Satan defied God, so shall men who worship themselves be cut off from his kingdom.


And I wouldn't say 'violent towards life', more like 'chaotic'.

Man doesn't have to understand the definition of perfection. Just have (and that is easy to do) to understand and see imperfection all around us.

All you gotta do is look at all the imperfection around to see that even imperfection acts perfectly. Of course, if it didn't exist, then you could say that it didn't act at all.

Cool

So the death of my grand father by cancer was a "perfect imperfection" that's what you're telling me?

I'm not necessarily telling you anything.

What part of your grandfather's death by cancer operated outside of the laws of nature? None of it. All the laws of nature acted perfectly.

Cool

If all laws of nature acted perfectly and god was not responsible for them what is the need for a god? And if god is responsible, then I refer you to valta4065's comment.

The laws of nature act perfectly BECAUSE God is responsible for them. Here's how it worked and works yet today.

God made the laws of nature and set everything into being.

Among the laws of nature existed the ability of mankind to freely act against God, which, if mankind did it, would destroy nature and the universe... built right into the laws of nature.

Mankind DID turn against God, and nature was in the process of being destroyed almost instantly.

God didn't make nature and people for nothing. He had purpose. Part of the purpose was that people were and are the objects of God's love. Nature was part of God's gifts to us.

God realized that people didn't understand how foolish and stupid they were being by turning against Him, so He stopped the destruction by sending His Son, Jesus, to take the punishment for all people for turning against God. The work that Jesus did on the cross, actually upheld the universe and the laws of nature right from the beginning times when mankind turned against God.

God also gave mankind the thing that they asked for by their turning against God. This thing is death, and all the pains and problems that people have in life which culminate in death.

All of it operates perfectly, in a perfect nature, according to perfect natural laws. God is perfectly giving people the thing the formally asked for > death. God is giving people the thing that they thought they were asking for > better life. God is preparing a better life for those who are not against Him, in the coming resurrection.

Wake up and turn to God so that you are not permanently destroyed by your adamant obstinance in remaining against God.

Cool

So, god is responsible, then.

Bible should start with "God created Heaven, Earth and Hell".  Somehow they skipped that part.

He created Hell to torment you for eternity, but he loves you Wink

2247  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: February 26, 2016, 11:02:29 PM







Trump Tower Was Built on Undocumented Polish Immigrants’ Backs

The Donald may denounce illegal immigrants as ‘rapists,’ but his empire’s crown jewel was erected on land cleared by a small army of undocumented Polish workers, a lawsuit alleged.

The use of undocumented workers on a Trump construction site such as the hotel described by The Washington Post this week is certainly nothing new.
Thirty-five years ago, a small army of illegal immigrants was used to clear the site for what became the crown jewel of Donald Trump’s empire.

The 200 demolition workers—nicknamed the Polish Brigade because of their home country—worked 12-hour shifts, seven days a week with no overtime to knock down the old Bonwit Teller building and make room for Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan.
According to testimony in a protracted civil suit in federal court, the laborers were paid $5 an hour or less when they were paid at all. Some went unpaid after the contractor had financial troubles. A few never received even the paltry sum that was owed them for their dirty and hazardous efforts preceding the construction of Trump’s monument to his own wealth.
“They were undocumented and worked ‘off the books,’” Manhattan federal Judge Charles Stewart said of the workers after they became the subject of a 1983 lawsuit. “No records were kept, no Social Security or other taxes were withheld.”
Trump was speaking with more firsthand knowledge than his readers likely imagined when he wrote in his 2011 book Time to Get Tough: Making America #1 Again that “illegal immigration is a wrecking ball aimed at U.S. Taxpayers.”
How interesting that he would choose a wrecking ball as a metaphor.
The lawsuit involving literal demolition—Case 83CIV6346 in Manhattan Federal Court—was brought by Harry Diduck, a now deceased dissident member of Local 95 of the House Wreckers Union. His lawyer, Wendy Sloan, says he was one of a group of like-minded workers who simply wanted “a real union.” They had stood to gain nothing at all for themselves as they sought to prove that Trump and his partner, along with the general contractor, conspired to cheat the House Wreckers out of pension and welfare contributions by hiring these non-union laborers.

Judge Stewart initially tossed out the complaint against Trump and his partner on the grounds that the contractor was the responsible party regarding the workers. The plaintiffs appealed, and the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit reinstated the complaint, returning the case to Judge Stewart.

During the 16-day non-jury trial, a number of the Polish workers testified that Trump underlings had threatened them with deportation if they caused trouble. They walked in to the job from Brooklyn when a transit strike hit the city. Some of them slept at the site.
Two workers further testified that they had approached Trump in person to demand overdue wages.
Trump took the stand, even back in those days sporting a red “power” tie, blue pinstriped suit, and that hair. He told the court that he almost certainly did not speak to the laborers, in part because he was fearful of venturing into so dangerous a workplace.
“I tend not to walk into buildings under demolition,” Trump said. “You have to be very brave to be in a building under demolition. I’m not sure I’m that brave.”

He added that he had no need to visit the site because “You can see it from a block away.”
He further testified that in any event he could not remember ever speaking to any of the workers or even being aware there were Polish workers on the site.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/08/trump-tower-was-built-on-undocumented-immigrants-backs.html

Lazy is lazy. I don't blame you. You can do so much with your little time on Earth
We Googled 'Trump Polish workers.' Here's what we found
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/feb/25/marco-rubio/marco-rubio-says-donald-trump-had-pay-1-million-hi/

Also I had to find an excuse to reply, so to see the amazing smile of this true AMERICAN again.

 Grin




Rubio campaign is getting desperate.  Digging up a case from 1983?  They are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Most of this will be resolved on Tuesday.  If Rubio does not win at least one state, he can go home, lick his wounds and sit on Cruz's lap.
2248  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Revocation of the citizenship and exile as a punishment on: February 26, 2016, 04:37:12 PM
Criminals can buy fake passports and re-enter your country.  Do you think they care if you strip them of citizenship?  They are criminals they don't give a shit about the paperwork or the laws.
And they be able to change their DNA or retina?!
...

Think this through.  You want to change passports of all countries that have no visa requirements with your country to use DNA and retina in their passports?  The guy could pretend to be a tourist from any other country, get into your country and do whatever.  He could immigrate back as an investor back into your or any other country.

You really don't know how criminals think.

Take any criminology course in school.  Jesus!!
 


2249  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison on: February 26, 2016, 02:06:06 PM
What really ticks me off is when atheists keep saying that we have to prove God exists (yet only they can convince themselves), but we that have faith God exists, are not liable to provide anything for them. If we say "God exists", then and only then are we under scrutiny and the burden of proof is on us. Yet atheists consistently call the Bible a fairy tale, or compare God to invisible pink unicorns, Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, Leprechauns, and the flying spaghetti monster without substantiating it.

....

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367154.0

Just read the fucking Bible.
2250  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison on: February 26, 2016, 02:03:49 PM
Here's something that the world should know about atheism. Don't let it poison your mind.
Atheism is dying from it's own failure to reason, to be honest and because of the bigotry that is embedded in its cultivation of new nonbelievers.
5 years now talking to atheists.
Not every atheist is this way but a majority of them (especially in groups) have this egotistical presuppositional concept that God isn't real (without substantiating it) and basing all arguments on that opinion alone. Yet they tell people that they just don't know to avoid saying God isn't real.
Atheism is a poison to the human intellect.
It promotes itself as rational thinking but
reasons fallaciously.
It declines morals because it loses accountability for its actions.
It tells you that you're smarter than religious people but it is intellectually dishonest when it generalizes.
It plays on the emotions and hope is soon lost.
It cons you into presumptuously believing you're right and encourages you to mock who you think is wrong.
It plays vicious games and promotes a mob mentality.
It strong arms religious people with ridicule and mockery.
It creates bullies.
It claims to be critical but only ensues deception.
It creates stereotypes, bigotry, and a delusion.
It gives you no reason to live. It takes for granted the rest of your life and in your death it leaves you in oblivion.
Atheism is a delusion of grandeur that promotes nothing and dumbs down God out of arrogance and ignorance.
It is a cult of arrogance, fallacious reasoning, intellectual dishonesty, and bigotry.
It whines about mentioning God in an oath to protect our freedom.
It whines about God being printed on its money that will pass briefly through its life.
It deceptively creates itself as powerful yet its cause of popularity is just proof of its inner corruption.
It even deceives its own kind and betrays them.
It tells you it has no faith yet it has no proof to substantiate its opinion.
It projects.
It tells you that you are sane but it controls your voice tricking you into believing you are a free thinker.
It runs from questioning and refuses to learn beyond the brainwashed propaganda it invokes.

Say WHAAAAT?  You obviously have no clue what Atheism is?
2251  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 26, 2016, 01:28:32 PM
Now there is your time machine.  You do yearly backup when you renew your driver's license.   When you die, they'll restore your brain to the year you specified on driver license application.  Or it could be a walk-in procedure, you walk in and do a refresh from 10 years ago.  

Sort of like the movie Groundhog Day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VF5P7qLaEQ

Combined with human cloning they will be able to backup one's brain when he/she is born and then clone him/her, grow him/her, and upload the backup.  So people would never really die.

That should be doable within 20-40 years, if not sooner...

The hard part is the clone... that's gonna take another 20 years unless you want to be a baby

40 years? Are you guessing or have you read Kurzweil's book about the singularity?

Just an educated guess based on the progress of the current research

But then again, I thought we'd have flying cars too

We've got flying cars already. But nobody wants or need them.

For the cloning part, I'd say much more than that especially because there no real use to it. We still can't implement the life experience, the thoughts, and we will probably never be able to do so. Hence a clone would be a totally different person.

Hmm, that brings another question:  Is talent something that is stored in the brain at birth?  Or just a predisposition in the brain, that if exercised makes a person an arts or math genius.  I'm sure you can copy the memory, but would your brain develop the same way if you were cloned?

Pregnancy probably influences the brain development to some degree, so maybe you will never be able to clone humans exactly.  Unless technology is developed to run pregnancy in a controlled environment, even then extra care would have to be taken to duplicate the subjects exactly. 

It is like if you take two seemingly identical seeds and plant them, it is hard to get 100% identical plants.  One might get more nutrients, more water, more sunlight, less wind, no obstructions in soil etc.  Human development is several magnitudes more complicated than plant development. 

2252  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison on: February 26, 2016, 01:14:11 PM
I think you wrote before in the Economic Devastation thread about how society is a balance between preventing people from doing actions that opt-out and harm the collective well-being balanced against the society becoming too totalitarian and imploding.


In Justification for New World Order: Part 1, 2, 3, 4 I argued the following.

In human interactions we often face a choice between cooperation (reaching a mutually beneficial exchange) and defection (advancement of ourselves to the detriment of our fellow man).  

Collectivism exists because it limits defection especially those forms of defection linked to physical violence. Collectivism is expensive and inefficient. However, the inefficiencies associated with collectivism are less (at least historically) than the inefficiencies that come from the violence and defections that occur in an environment of unrestrained individualism.

...

There is no such thing as complete freedom except for the state of nature as described by Hobbs. In every other scenario the best we can achieve is a partial freedom. We agree to some limitations of our freedoms to maximize our ability to prosper and cooperate while minimizing individual freedom to coerce, and defect.

...

The evolution of the social contract appears to be a progressive climb to higher potential energy systems with increased degrees of freedom. The state of nature begat tribalism. Tribalism grew into despotism. Despotism advanced into monarchy. Monarchies were replaced by republics. I suspect that in the future republics will be consumed by world government, world government will evolve into decentralized government, and decentralized government will finally mature into a shared consensus among individuals with limited or no government.

Each iteration has a common theme for each advance increases the number of individuals able to engage in cooperative activity while lowering the number of individuals able to defect. To borrow from the links in the opening post each iteration increases the amount of entropy the system can sustainably support.

Charlton argues that religion is the proximate method of Group Selection in humans specifically he argues that religion enhances social cohesion enabling larger and more complex forms of social functioning.

Religion appears to be a primary driver of evolution facilitating our progressive climb to more complex social systems via the stimulation and enforcement of motivation, altruism, and long-termism.

If Individual humans are adapted to live in a context of religion. It is logical absent religion human behavior becomes maladaptive.

What high IQ people miss is apparently that God doesn't have to be a factual truth in order for religion to be an optimum strategy for society. Thus they aren't as high IQ as they think they are, haha.

Could a shared consensus among individuals ever replace centralized government? Such a society would require a powerful and healthy moral code upheld and enforced by all with both belief and reverence.

Perhaps the very religious have more to teach us then we realize.

Belief in common myths is what allowed Homo Sapiens to co-operate in large groups of complete strangers.  It unified the groups behind a common goal.  Thanks to religion Sapiens managed to rule over other animals.

In the 21st century, we have other concepts that essentially function as religions.  Secular governments, science, data.  

Bitcoin is an example.  Two strangers trust bitcoin value because they trust Math behind it.  They are willing to co-operate (in this case exchange value) despite the fact that they don't know each other, might be actually enemies otherwise.  But they will co-operate the same way two Christian Kingdoms co-operated to kill and plunder pagan tribes.

You don't need to suspend your reason to believe some bronze age nonsense, today, you have other options.



 

 
2253  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gay marriage will destabilise family life on: February 26, 2016, 01:01:47 PM
This is normal what they doing i must admit.
(From my standpoint this is bad and twisted but i don't care about them and their habits).
Family must be protected! Other children must be protected from this indoctrination.


Yes children must be protected from religious indoctrination and molestation by your priests.   I agree.

As far as gays go, what you suggesting is like banning production of red cars because it might infuriate your imaginary friend.
 
Completely ridiculous.
2254  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 26, 2016, 12:49:40 PM

Not any of these links you posted are mine, so your claims about so called "my scam" are obsolete. And why are you afraid of "my scam"-by your definition, if atheism is accurate and correct.

I see you like watching youtube videos, so here is a link specially for you:

Is Religion Intellectually Dangerous? Featuring Dr. John Lennox at the University of Toronto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhrxwb2bfSg


Religion is scam, you are supporter of this scam.

Religion has absolutely nothing to do with science. 

John Lennox got his ass handed to him by Lawrence Krauss.  The guy makes a bunch of assumptions based on his religious beliefs.
He sounds like BADecker.  He is not a scientist.  More like a philosopher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKt2NPbTHM0




Wow you're a bit harsh dude ^^

Religion is not exactly a scam, it's more like  a strange bet without any proof.
But calling every religious scammer is a bit extreme xD

Listen, they are scamming people out of their money.  Promising them something that does not exist.
The best scammers believe in their scam.

Take a look at my other thread were I posted links to show how they scam people.  Documentaries were done
by major news networks.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367070.0

Despite the fact it is an obvious scam, people still fall for it.  Just like Nigerian scam, only institutionalized and legal.


 
2255  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Revocation of the citizenship and exile as a punishment on: February 26, 2016, 05:54:45 AM
The idea is to strip-off citizenship from the convicted felon instead of putting him in prison. Government of his home country can sign a contract with one of the poorest states in the world (Burundi, Malawi, Liberia etc), so in exchange for some monetary compensation the poor country would grant him a citizenship, then his home country will revoke his nationality and expel convict to the poor state.

Compensation for the poor country will be order of magnitude lower than costs keeping him in prison, but deterring effect much stronger than prison time because most people would choose to spend some time in US or EU prison instead of spending rest of life in Sub-Saharan Africa!

What makes you think they will not be back on the streets of your town in a matter of months?  Criminals can buy fake passports and re-enter your country.  Do you think they care if you strip them of citizenship?  They are criminals they don't give a shit about the paperwork or the laws.
2256  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: February 26, 2016, 03:42:09 AM

It is God who gave man music and instruments in first place to worship him. All music therefore originates from God. it is not man invention by the way.

Moloch destiny is fire and brimstone. So don't follow a looser, it is not profitable at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7EZONzP4iE

So God created man to worship Him? How much praise does one need?

That part never made any sense to me...

If I was a God, I might be interested in companionship... ya know, another dude to tell my stories... but worship?  from a bunch of ants?  why?

Must be something in the water during bronze age.

He created his Son who is him, sent him to Earth to die on the cross so that he can forgive sins of ants.  He had to die himself to forgive sins of some schmucks on 3rd rock from the Sun.  Hey, God,  you could have just forgave the sins.  Why bother with all the theatrical dying on the cross.  

You created the fucking universe, you could not forgive the sins of some insignificant bronze age schmucks?

The guy who first wrote this story was tripping on Meth.


You'd think God would be smart enough to send Jesus during the 20th century... so we could record that shit on video...

I'd seriously consider any physical evidence for Jesus being historical... even a sandal with Jesus' name written on it from the year 20 CE... maybe a chair or table?  Wasn't Jesus a carpenter?  What did he make?  Why is there zero evidence that Jesus ever existed?

It was on purpose. Because you don't need proof. You need Faith. Proof would destroy Faith. Which is a big NO NO.

What's the difference between faith and delusion?

cause and effect.  But check with BSDecker, he is a guru on causes and effects.
2257  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gay marriage will destabilise family life on: February 26, 2016, 02:52:05 AM
And we are not to hate people. We have a right not to like what they do. There is people in this crypto field that some of us don't like what they do cause well we don't like it. But we don't hate them. We don't like their behaviors and their destruction of society as the OP states.

First of all, their behavior is none of your business.

They are not harming anyone.  Two people love each other, they get married.  Sounds logical to me.

They are not destroying society.  Dicks like you are an ancient relic.  But what can we expect?  You only read ONE, bronze age book.

You say you don't hate?  Of course you hate gays.  If it was legal, you would kill them wherever you could find them.
2258  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: February 26, 2016, 02:38:34 AM

It is God who gave man music and instruments in first place to worship him. All music therefore originates from God. it is not man invention by the way.

Moloch destiny is fire and brimstone. So don't follow a looser, it is not profitable at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7EZONzP4iE

So God created man to worship Him? How much praise does one need?

That part never made any sense to me...

If I was a God, I might be interested in companionship... ya know, another dude to tell my stories... but worship?  from a bunch of ants?  why?

Must be something in the water during bronze age.

He created his Son who is him, sent him to Earth to die on the cross so that he can forgive sins of ants.  He had to die himself to forgive sins of some schmucks on 3rd rock from the Sun.  Hey, God,  you could have just forgave the sins.  Why bother with all the theatrical dying on the cross. 

You created the fucking universe, you could not forgive the sins of some insignificant bronze age schmucks?

The guy who first wrote this story was tripping on Meth.
2259  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 26, 2016, 02:21:29 AM

Not any of these links you posted are mine, so your claims about so called "my scam" are obsolete. And why are you afraid of "my scam"-by your definition, if atheism is accurate and correct.

I see you like watching youtube videos, so here is a link specially for you:

Is Religion Intellectually Dangerous? Featuring Dr. John Lennox at the University of Toronto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhrxwb2bfSg


Religion is scam, you are supporter of this scam.

Religion has absolutely nothing to do with science. 

John Lennox got his ass handed to him by Lawrence Krauss.  The guy makes a bunch of assumptions based on his religious beliefs.
He sounds like BADecker.  He is not a scientist.  More like a philosopher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKt2NPbTHM0


2260  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 25, 2016, 11:22:33 PM

Thank you, I'm aware of what atheism is.
Problem is when nothing is done to prevent that lacking. If my car lacks fuel i will refuel it. If i don't do that, car will become useless. The same is with atheism. You need to refuel your lack with LOGOS.  Ignorance of LOGOS is darkness. Comprehension of LOGOS is light.

Become enlightened, it will be for your profit, not mine, but I will speak to anyone who will listen and if you do not want to you need not to reply, thanks.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

Atheism has no power to do that for you.

I'm sure your scam is profitable. I think it should be illegal because you are ripping people off.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367070.0


Exposé of religious crooks.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXVwkLQR3GM

TELEVANGELISTS: 'Fleecing the Flock':
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N82YvHx9Cek

Crazy things preachers say:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUP7r5S6rRw

Crazy things creationists say:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK7i-dtMaWk

Preachers gone wild:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTCiMxPz2Qg

Crazy things Christians say:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfUSzaKrxD8

Kirk Cameron - How God created man? (He is not joking):
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8GvccVRub8

Speaking in Tongues Exposed:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcd1a68YQq0

Jesus camp for kids (very disturbing):
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LACyLTsH4ac

Christian child abuse (al-Qaeda style):
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3gPpPoWEBg

Raising a monster.  Christian Home Schooling:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEPn9spdr5A

Brainwashing children: Jesus Camp - 2006 Documentary (full version):
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy_u4U7-cn8

Sarah Palin witchcraft ceremony:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwkb9_zB2Pg

The craziest claim by a creationist (how dragons were created):
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK6tkcxAHIw

Warning: PG rated.
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