^^^ You're the idiot for claiming unproven theory is fact. Coulomb's inverse square law is something that can be demonstrated in the lab, gravity or more accurately relativity is unproven theory that has been falsified in the lab.
@born yesterday_stupid as fuck, get inside a Faraday cage then have it lowered into a lake.
Like I said. Checkmate. All done using your 'electric field theory', and your arguments. |
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Earth's electric field defines up & down and provides the constraints that density and buoyancy work within. Coulomb's inverse square law quantifies the forces involved.
Faraday's cages block both static and non-static electric fields. Objects weigh the same inside Faraday's cages as they weigh outside of them. Checkmate. |
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^^^ The reason why it is still gravity is, people don't go into consideration of Newton or Sagnac when they use gravity. They just use it. And they call it gravity because that is the word they were taught to call it. For most people by far, gravity is an event thing. It isn't theories that discuss why it works the way it does, or why not. All you are trying to do is mess up the minds of people. Your explanations of why gravity should be called something else don't have anything to do with flat Earth. Rather, they have to do with messing with the minds of people.  Things fall or sink because they're more dense than the air or water they're surrounded by; they're pushed down by the medium. With government, schools, churches and the media all preaching the miracle of the globe in unison they need the magic of gravity to hold it all together. Telling people there's a giant ball below them with a magic force pulling them down to explain away the absurdity of sticking to a sphere while it spins in a vacuum, is the perfect example of gaslighting or, to "mess up the minds of people" as you so ineloquently put it. There's a reason they can't explain what causes gravity, because the theory is 100% pure bullshit! And what causes the 'medium' to push objects down? How does the 'medium' know that it needs to push the object down not in any other direction? I think you have just discovered gravity. |
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Unfortunately for you, your argument is dull...
It's time to stop.
Your disagreement with my argument is well documented in our prior exchanges so I agree it’s time to stop. I will close with this article I read today. Have a blessed Easter Sunday. Easter And Why Government Is Not Our Godhttps://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-21/easter-and-why-government-not-our-godThe American people have a love-hate relationship with their government. This is as it should be, primarily because government is not our God. Easter Sunday seems an opportune time to remember this and renew our commitment to a republic under God rather than one that displaces or subjugates the creator.  James Madison Had It Right In 1785 James Madison wrote, “The essence of Government is power; and power, lodged as it must be in human hands, will ever be liable to abuse.” Born in King George County, Virginia in 1751, Madison’s words seem prescient when applied to our day and time. Often referred to as the “Father of the Constitution,” Madison rightly expressed caution and concern for the power that government can assert over its people. It could be said that this quote of his captures the principle difference between the political left and right in America today. Ronald Reagan echoed Madison’s fear when he asserted that “government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.” The Bible speaks of power this way. In Matthew 22:29 Jesus said, “Your mistake is that you don’t know the Scriptures, and you don’t know the power of God.” Real power rests with the creator and not His creation (Job 38-42), and certainly not in the governments of any era which, after all, are appointed by God (Daniel 2:21). Thus true power cannot be attained by governments; it rests with One who will not abuse it (Psalm 86:5).  Ayn Rand’s Pithy Pointers The mother of objectivism, Ayn Rand, penned yet another perceptive concept that demonstrates why government is not our God. And it cannot be said that Rand adhered to any sort of established religion. Yet the author of The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged was able to put her finger on a dilemma that has reared its head in 21st century America: “We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force.” An era of government tyranny does seem to be fast approaching if it has not already arrived, as many would argue that, indeed, it has. When people labor under such laws as to which straws they are permitted to use and a tax code that is 60,000 pages – an estimated seven times the length of the Bible – one can safely say that the hand of tyranny is upon us, pushing its way into every aspect of our lives. Thus, individual liberty and freedom suffer under myriad regulations that are tantamount to oppression. Step out your door, get in your car, and head on down to the McDonald’s drive-thru; you will likely be violating one law or another. Yes, government can be suffocating, which again shows us that it cannot and should not be our God. In contrast, Paul wrote in his epistle to the Galatians: “So Christ has truly set us free. Now make sure that you stay free, and don’t get tied up again in slavery to the law.” Of course, Paul was talking about the religious laws of the day, and some non-Christian enthusiasts may counter this with the verse where Jesus says, “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s,” (Mark 12:17, KJV), but they would be reminded to read the second part of this verse, which adds “and give to God what belongs to God” (NLT). Even a tyrannical government does not own its people, though some have tried to sell this assertion to their people. Milton Friedman Puts Bounty In Perspective Economist and Nobel prize winner Milton Friedman said: “If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there’d be a shortage of sand.” Here we recognize how tyrannical governments are effective in taking rather than giving to their people. While this comment is a bit satirical, as is often said, the truth is in the joke. The leftist politicians of our day are always “running out of” and “requesting more.” There is never enough money to do all the things we don’t want and always a desire to take from those who toil for what they own. In contrast, Jesus said in John 10:10, “The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have life and have it abundantly.” Professing Christians will attest to the fact that life under the power of God is one where their “cup runneth over” (Psalm 23:5, KJV) – not necessarily with earthly things, but The Things that Matter Most. Is Easter calling you to throw off the yoke of an all-powerful, tyrannical government whose raison d’être is to rule, take, and enslave? During the last supper, Jesus said the following to His disciples: “In this world the kings and great men lord it over their people, yet they are called ‘friends of the people.’ 26 But among you it will be different. Those who are the greatest among you should take the lowest rank, and the leader should be like a servant. 27 Who is more important, the one who sits at the table or the one who serves? The one who sits at the table, of course. But not here! For I am among you as one who serves.” (Luke 22:25) And so today – Easter Sunday, 2019 – may be a time to ask yourself a central question: Who would you rather reign over your life – the liberating, loving, and truly powerful presence of Jesus Christ, who showed humility and sacrificial love in His life, death, and resurrection. Or do you prefer to worship at the altar of a tyrannical government? Simply put: Who is your God?Noone. Next question. |
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Laws change my friend. So be ready to obey the new laws or face the piper.
You are against the bill that would prohibit discrimination based on gender identity and sexual orientation.
And you asking me what is wrong with your opposition? I bet you would be for segregation laws back in the day, for the same reason.
You are a bigot. A horrible human being.
You can redeem yourself by supporting a law that will criminalize discrimination. Be a better man than your 'God'.
Ha ha tell me how you really feel af_newbie. I guess laws only matter to you if you agree with them. So much for all your talk about respecting the collective determination of which actions are causing harm. Looks like you have some other metric you are choosing not to share with us. Interesting that you now turn to name calling and offering redemption if I repent. You really fit right in with today's radicalism don't you. If we were on a less freedom loving forum like twitter or facebook you or someone like you would probably go complaining to the moderators at this point attempting to get me kicked off the platform for the horrific "hate crime" of disagreeing with your goals to transform society and the law into your Utopian ideal. The honest truth is that you are the one participating in the horror by encouraging your fellow human beings to their self-destruction. Gender dysphoria is a disease. It is a very serious behavioral condition with definite health consequences. One in seven biological men who identify as transgender women have HIV. That number rises to 44% among blacks. About half of biological women with gender dysphoria will attempt suicide. https://www.breitbart.com/health/2019/04/20/cdc-one-seven-transgender-women-have-hiv/These poor individuals are very very ill. They need help learning to live with and dealing with a biological reality they wish did not exist. Affirmations that their condition is wonderful and normal does them a tremendous disservice. That said I would consider supporting your bill if you added in language that also prohibited discrimination based on religious beliefs, allowed for faith based consciousness objections, and included protections for private employers to run their business in accordance with their faith based principles. I doubt you would be on board with that though. The goal of most extremist when seeking this kind of legislation is to obtain weapons to use against their political and ideological opposition not to defang government or increase freedom. Gays are ill? I think you are ill, but I repeat myself. You don't know how I feel? I feel we should live in a society were all members of society are protected (under the law) and are free from discrimination (that includes you btw). If they are not, it is our duty as good people to change the law so they are protected. Even if trans are mentally ill (which I don't think they are) you should not refuse them your service, just like (I hope) you would not refuse your service to people who are Atheists or suffer from Autism or Down Syndrome. That is how I feel on this issue. Regarding any religious mythologies, you know my position. I view them as an ancient, cultural tradition, a political relic that has no place in a progressive society driven by science, medicine, engineering, and technology. |
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Ok I read the article. I do not think it is wise to enshrine sexual orientation into law as a special protected class no. By and large more government courts and lawsuits are never a good thing. Government is already too big. We also have already seen how activists use these laws to attack and destroy others that don’t agree with them. https://www.dailywire.com/news/9694/christian-bakery-just-went-out-business-due-aaron-bandlerSo yes I oppose Senate bill 788 which seeks to change current law. There are plenty of other laws people can sue under if they can prove they have been harmed by someone. I am curious what standard you are using to judge me to be a “horrible human being” I support the law as it is. What ever happened to
Your personal...beliefs... are irrelevant.
Obey the law, or be prepared to pay the piper.
I support the current law as it is in this area. Laws change my friend. So be ready to obey the new laws or face the piper. You are against the bill that would prohibit discrimination based on gender identity and sexual orientation. And you asking me what is wrong with your opposition? I bet you would be for segregation laws back in the day, for the same reason. You are a bigot. A horrible human being. You can redeem yourself by supporting a law that will criminalize discrimination. Be a better man than your 'God'. |
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CoinCube, could you please get off your two-legged moral high horse.
Trans people feel that their gender is different from their biological sex. They want to be the gender they feel they are. You think they are crazy.
You feel that there is an invisible, undetectable, unknown entity (God) that influences everything in the universe and here on Earth.
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Now, who is the crazy one?
Well you clearly think I am the crazy one and that is ok. I acknowledge my belief in God is based in faith that it is something I accept a priori. However it is also a logical belief as I outlined for you in great depth. I also accept provable empiric reality for what it is. If you could prove my belief was untrue I would change my mind. We both know you cannot. The individual suffering from gender disphoria does indeed feel they are a different gender than their biology dictates. They want to feel they are something other then their biological sex. The problem is they cannot really ever be. No matter what they do every cell in their body will genetically forever be biologically fixed. Cosmetics clothing, superficial surgery, even forced acknowledgement under penalty of law will not change that reality. The belief that feelings trump reality leads eventually to things like a mother taking her 15 year old son to Tialand so he can be castrated on his 16th birthday, https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/01/child-sex-change-charity-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/I tend to think cutting off the functional biological parts of teenagers is crazy. It was barbarism in the ancient past when they did it to young men so they could become harum guards. It was barbarism in the Middle Ages when they did it to young boys so they could sound youthful when singing. It is barbarism today.
You are not only severely deluded but a horrible human being, IMHO. Discrimination is wrong because it causes harm, no matter the reasons.
Remember one thing, faith is not a reliable path to truth, the scientific method is.
I have never said anything about discrimination. What discrimination exactly are you concerned about? Some specific examples would help. A problem with your worldview is that it is centered around causing harm but people fundamentally disagree about what constitutes harm. I for example consider being dismembered in the womb and extracted in pieces harm. I also think having your biological parts cut off or being subjected to sterilizing hormonal treatments when you are a child or teenager constitutes harm. I guess in your world arguing against these is discrimination against women and transgender people? So now you are backpedaling your discrimination? Just go back in this thread. BADecker posted an article about how trans and gays are discriminated by Christians: https://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/faith-and-morals/item/31845-equality-act-seeks-federal-persecution-of-christiansDenying employment or services. Christians feel like they can break above the law because of their Christan beliefs. This is wrong on so many levels. |
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You just fucking said that I am setting myself as the unknown entity, outside of the known universe.
You are a madman. You have no idea what are you saying.
I live in the real world, unlike you.
No you lack reading comprehension. I said you are too deeply enmeshed (in your extremely foolish worldview) and that it was beyond my abilities to help extract you. Edit: In fairness I did say earlier that the error in your worldview was in setting collective human opinion as a god aka your ultimate arbitrator of truth and value. I can see how you could potentially misinterpret that. PS. I am done talking to you. I think you are a delusional, unhappy man. On the level of BADecker or notbatman. You have constructed your delusion to provide you with some psychological comfort; and you keep complaining about the changing world around you.
Ok it was nice chatting with you. I am a pretty happy man to be honest. I have a fulfilling career great children and a wonderful wife. Bitcoin has also been very good to me. Not retirement good but I will probably be able to retire 10 years earlier because of it. I doubt I will retire early because I like what I do but it's nice to have the option. We clearly disagree on the nature of reality and the disagreement leads to some very strong differences of opinion. You are correct that further conversation is unlikely to be productive so it seems prudent to wrap it up. CoinCube, could you please get off your two-legged moral high horse. Trans people feel that their gender is different from their biological sex. They want to be the gender they feel they are. You think they are crazy. You feel that there is an invisible, undetectable, unknown entity outside of the known universe that influences everything in the universe and here on Earth, the entity that influenced 40+ authors over the course of 2500+ years to write down the acceptable sexual behaviors for one particular species of primates, in one specific period of time. But you have absolutely no physical evidence to back your claims. Now, who is the crazy one? We treat you (religious folks) the same as we treat anyone else, people with Down Syndrome, gay or trans people. Even though most of us know that you are severely deluded. You, on the other hand, feel that gays and trans people should be discriminated because of what? Your unknown, invisible friend? You were indoctrinated into your cult as a child and you suffered from this delusion all your life. I feel sorry for you. You are not only severely deluded but a horrible human being, IMHO. Discrimination is wrong because it causes harm, no matter the reasons.Remember one thing, faith is not a reliable path to truth, the scientific method is. PS. I was once indoctrinated into your cult too, so I know how powerful that feeling of faith can be. I have seen two sides of the coin and I am ~100% sure there is no God of any kind, anywhere. There are unknowns, but that is about it, they are unknowns. |
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... delusional man talking...blah, blah...
I can assure you I am not the unknown entity, outside of this universe (aka your personal 'God'). I am a primate so are you.
No af_newbie you are not God no matter how much you want to be. You just fucking said that I am setting myself as the unknown entity, outside of the known universe. You are a madman. You have no idea what are you saying. I live in the real world, unlike you. Ps. I am done talking to you. I think you are a delusional, unhappy man. On the level of BADecker or notbatman. You have constructed your delusion to provide you with some psychological comfort; and you keep complaining about the changing world around you. |
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Sorry I have to stop you right there at your first sentence. You do understand that I do not believe in any Gods, even the concept or the word of 'God' is foreign to me. I do not know what 'God' persona/object you are referring to.
So you have to explain your very first sentence without resorting to your religious lingo.
I do not understand your first sentence. What exactly do you accuse me of?
See definition 3a https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/insanityI already explained the concept of God and its necessity to you in great depth without any religious references at all See: An Argument for GodNot much more I can do I am afraid you are to deeply emeshed and beyond my abilities. I apologize for failing you. ... delusional man talking...blah, blah...ignoring the issue of gays, making some absurd claims about trans people etc. Give him the power and he would administer electroshocks to gays and trans. I can assure you I am not the unknown entity, outside of this universe (aka your personal 'God'). I am a primate so are you. You are beyond comprehension. You have created your mental bubble and fail to accept the reality around you. |
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Your problem is you reject a moral authority higher than mankind.
This leads you to the erroneous belief that the collective cannot by definition get it “wrong” they are the collective your ultimate arbiter of truth and value.
You deny the existence of a moral standard that would allow you to reject a new and legitimately passed law as evil or immoral.
Of course, I do, so do all other sane people. That is why our laws are better than Sharia or Bible laws. What higher moral authority than mankind is there? Human delusion? You have three problems: ... 1. You are delusional. 2. You use your delusion to justify inflicting harm on others. 3. Your codified delusion does not change. You are stuck in a box unable to free yourself. You are a mental masochist, your delusion is your bondage ... do us all a favor and stop justifying harming others based on your delusion. The actual insanity lies in setting yourself or collective human opinion as God. ... Sorry I have to stop you right there at your first sentence. You do understand that I do not believe in any Gods, even the concept or the word of 'God' is foreign to me. I do not know what 'God' persona/object you are referring to. So you have to explain your very first sentence without resorting to your religious lingo. I do not understand your first sentence. What exactly do you accuse me of? BTW, atheists are obsessed with political power? Are you insane? How many Atheists are in Congress? You are the one who wants to punish gays and trans people any way you can. How exactly are gays and trans getting punished? It was posted earlier in this thread by BADecker. Christians like BAdecker and CoinCube feel that it is their right to discriminate gay and trans people by refusing service or hiring based on religious grounds. https://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/faith-and-morals/item/31845-equality-act-seeks-federal-persecution-of-christiansThey feel that it is outrageous that they are treated like everybody else by 'forcing' them to follow the law of the land. |
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Your problem is you reject a moral authority higher than mankind.
This leads you to the erroneous belief that the collective cannot by definition get it “wrong” they are the collective your ultimate arbiter of truth and value.
You deny the existence of a moral standard that would allow you to reject a new and legitimately passed law as evil or immoral.
Of course, I do, so do all other sane people. That is why our laws are better than Sharia or Bible laws. What higher moral authority than mankind is there? Human delusion? You have three problems: ... 1. You are delusional. 2. You use your delusion to justify inflicting harm on others. 3. Your codified delusion does not change. You are stuck in a box unable to free yourself. You are a mental masochist, your delusion is your bondage ... do us all a favor and stop justifying harming others based on your delusion. The actual insanity lies in setting yourself or collective human opinion as God. ... Sorry I have to stop you right there at your first sentence. You do understand that I do not believe in any Gods, even the concept or the word of 'God' is foreign to me. I do not know what 'God' persona/object you are referring to. So you have to explain your very first sentence without resorting to your religious lingo. I do not understand your first sentence. What exactly do you accuse me of? BTW, atheists are obsessed with political power? Are you insane? How many Atheists are in Congress? You are the one who wants to punish gays and trans people any way you can. |
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^^^ Discrediting the inventor of the oscilloscope isn't going to fly, it's game over for relativity. There's no credible argument against the results of the 1887 M&M experiment; the Earth is motionless.
I'm sorry but shouldn't you have to prove first such experiment even happened? I ask you again, how do you know that experiment happened and why do you trust the results if you yourself can't verify them? Aren't you doing exactly what you claim we are doing? What do you expect? The guy does not believe in gravity. Instead, he replaced it with electric field forces without realizing that his heart and the computer he uses to post his nonsense would stop working the moment such a serious, varying strength EMF is applied with pinpoint accuracy. Never mind how such EMF would be generated or how airplanes would fly. The guy is delusional, probably a paranoid schizophrenic. Let him be. |
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Your personal religious beliefs and/or superstitions are irrelevant.
Obey the law, or be prepared to pay the piper.
What ultimately is the moral foundation for the law?... Obey the law, or be prepared to pay the piper yes but what is the standard I can use to judge the law itself? ... What do you mean "get it wrong"? ... it is voted on and eventually passed. ... The moral foundation is based on our collective determination ... Good, new laws are passed. Bad laws are dropped. I cut out the extraneous to highlight the core of your argument. Your problem is you reject a moral authority higher than mankind.... Of course, I do, so do all other sane people. That is why our laws are better than Sharia or Bible laws. What higher moral authority than mankind is there? Human delusion? BTW, https://www.foxnews.com/world/at-least-13-dead-six-injured-in-south-africa-church-collapse-reportProblem is that your codified delusion does not change and is useless in the ever-changing world. You have three problems: 1. You are delusional. 2. You use your delusion to justify inflicting harm on others. 3. Your codified delusion does not change. You are stuck in a box unable to free yourself. You are a mental masochist, your delusion is your bondage that for some psychological reason you so desperately need and actively seek. At least do us all a favor and stop justifying harming others based on your delusion. |
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I am not sure why we're even discussing religions in the 21st century. We don't discuss witchcraft and reincarnation anymore. Time to drop the charade.
When you break the employment laws, you break the law, it does not matter if you are a Christian, Wiccan, Buddist or a Jew.
Your personal religious beliefs and/or superstitions are irrelevant.
Obey the law, or be prepared to pay the piper.
Who gets to decide what the law is? What if they get it wrong?What ultimately is the moral foundation for the law? Is their a moral foundation or is it the law simply a means for the powerful to rule over the weak? The answer to these questions are religious ones like it our not. They are grounded in the a priori. I am sure you can answer these questions we all can, but whatever answer you give is ultimately grounded in some form of religious assumption faith if you will explicit or implicit. Obey the law, or be prepared to pay the piper yes but what is the standard I can use to judge the law itself? Religious beliefs are anything but irrelevant and disregarding them as you do blinds you to the actual workings of the world. Congress creates and passes bills, the president signs them into laws. What do you mean "get it wrong"? It is discussed left and right before it is voted on and eventually passed. The moral foundation is based on our collective determination on which actions are causing harm. We pass new laws to make our societies more civilized. Laws are not written in stone. Societies change, so do the laws that govern them. Once upon the time, people could be bought and sold, women were not allowed to vote, blacks could not ride in the front of the bus, gay men could not marry other gay men. Now they can. Good, new laws are passed. Bad laws are dropped. AI will soon need new laws. When the Internet was invented there were no laws to govern it so we introduced new laws to govern activities on the Internet. You cannot be that ignorant of where you live and what is happening around you. Priori my ass. |
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The only way to properly judge the various religious activities of the various religions, is to judge them according to what they say. You can't judge Muslims according to Christian standards, or Christians according to Buddhist standards. Religious equality should be based on what the religions say.
Since people are physically built approximately the same, they should be judged according to how they treat other people, even though their religions might be drastically different.
Since it is mostly atheists who want to bring about religious persecution by promoting lack of religious freedom, they are the ones who fit their own religion of non-religion the best.
"Equality Act" Seeks Federal Persecution of ChristiansDemocrats in Congress are pushing “equality” legislation that critics say would criminalize Christianity, Islam, and Judaism by forcing virtually every institution in society — including religious institutions — to hire, serve, and promote homosexuals and individuals confused about their gender. A number of analysts have warned that by enshrining “sexual orientation” in the statute, even pedophilia and pederasty could be protected. In the House of Representatives, Democrats already have more than enough co-sponsors to pass the bill. And in the Senate, they are getting very close. But a massive coalition of critics from across the political spectrum and a broad array of religious traditions is rising up to stop it before it is too late.
Among other changes, the so-called Equality Act, also known as H.R. 5 in the House and S. 788 in the Senate, purports to “prohibit discrimination on the basis of sex, gender identity, and sexual orientation.” To do that, it would enshrine actual or perceived “sexual orientation and gender identity” into federal statutes. That would give homosexuality, transgenderism, and other perversions of human sexuality and gender the same protections as race or sex in employment, housing, public accommodations, and more. Incredibly, the legislation specifically states that religious freedom may not be used as a defense under the bill. And it applies to churches, religious schools, religious hospitals, religious employers, gathering places, sports, all government entities, and more. Go to the article and read more. I am not sure why we're even discussing religions in the 21st century. We don't discuss witchcraft and reincarnation anymore. Time to drop the charade. When you break the employment laws, you break the law, it does not matter if you are a Christian, Wiccan, Buddist or a Jew. Your personal religious beliefs and/or superstitions are irrelevant. Obey the law, or be prepared to pay the piper. Be civil, don't discriminate people. Drop the 'Christian - Love your neighbor' act. Hire people based on their skills, not what your Bronze Age scriptures say. BTW, why are you stopping at not hiring gays, shouldn't you be killing them? You want to break some laws but not the others? Make up your mind. Either follow your Bible in its entirety or don't follow it at all. Otherwise, you are just like the slave traders from a few centuries ago, they too used the Bible to justify their horrendous acts. |
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If it was the stupidest then why all statistics show that educated people tend towards atheism rather than any other religion? Nothing suggests that smart people chose religion over science, nothing, in fact scientists are the group with biggest percentage of atheists.
People with high IQ grow very confident in their ability to control the world and in their intellectual superiority over “lesser minds”. That leads to a tendency to reject inherited traditions as unwanted restraints from primitive times shackles placed upon them by their intellectual inferiors. Like an intelligent teenager who rejects the rules of his school and parents because he wants to do his own thing and thinks he is smarter than his school teachers. Ultimately it’s not a choice between science and religion that is a false dichotomy. The choice is between theism and a materialism which if embraced leads to nihilism.The choice is between materialism and spiritualism (which can lead to the belief in the supernatural which in turn leads to theism). BTW, materialism can also lead to existentialism and/or humanism; and theism can lead to nihilism if your deity views human life as worthless. You suffer from myopic Christian vision. |
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In case anyone is wondering.. Dalam ajaran islam tidak di ajarkan seseorang menjadi teroris, islam mengajarkan sopansantun, kasih sayang daritadinya pemukul menjadi perangkul, munkin ini adalah sebagian kelompok yg benci terhadap islam.
Says tidak setuju islam dikatakan agama teroris.
Google translated from Indonesian: "In Islamic teachings not taught by someone to be a terrorist, Islam teaches sopansantun, affection from being a hitter becomes a hijacker, but this is probably a group that hates Islam. Says do not agree that Islam is said to be a terrorist religion." What you have shown with your last post is you do not even know your own Christian mythology. Socialist doctrine is based on the Christian ideology. You got this backwards.
Do you even know what my position is?
Are you sure you questioned the atheist position? Where are your arguments to prove that the supernatural exists? Here is your chance to win the Nobel Prize. Let's go.
You are an opinionated, Christian Anarchist who disagrees with everything he sees or hears. You are just an automaton with no original critical thinking skills, IMHO. No, I am pretty sure I do know quite a bit about Christian mythology, but I would love to see you source the information that you think proves Socialism/Communism was based upon it. There is actually a lot of evidence however Communism was at least partially based upon the Talmud, not just because of a lot of overlapping ideologies, but because of Karl Marx's lineage from a long line of rabbis as well as a few other things related to The Bolshevik Revolution. You have made your position as a holier than thou edgy boi atheist pretty clear so, I don't know why I wouldn't know your position at this point. Do you even know my position? You have no problem calling me a Christian Anarchist, when I never said anything of the sort. Frankly I think Anarchists are short sighted people who are usually just Socialists and Communists anyway, but they don't know enough about either of those systems to know any better, they just think Anarchism sounds more edgy and they have a cool logo which makes a great patch to put next to their Black Flag or Misfits patches. Again, you seem to be fixated on wanting to discuss the validity of belief, as I already stated, I consider the debate of the validity of having religious beliefs themselves one way or the other to be an asinine task, also one that is not the subject of this thread, so take it to the atheism thread edgy boi. Now I know you did not personally read the Bible. The source is the fucking Bible. It is all about "we are all equal in the eyes of the Lord", "do not collect the riches", "sell all your belongings and give it to the poor", "slaves and master are all the same" etc., etc. The idea of not wanting to become rich on Earth but instead distributing wealth (Matthew 19:21) to the needy is the principal mantra of communism. John 13:16 - "Very truly I tell you, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him.". Matthew is full of socialist directives. Guess what? We do not have the same skills and abilities (direct contradiction with the Bible), masters are smarter than slaves; that is why they are fucking masters. We do not desire the same things. The idea of the distribution of wealth to the poor and needy was first introduced in the Bible. Matthew 6:2-4 2 Thessalonians 3:10 Acts 2:44-45 2 Corinthians 8:13-15 Galatians 6:2 Ephesians 4:28 Matthew 19:21 Luke 3:11 Acts 4:32-35 Acts 5:1-42 1 John 3:17 Deuteronomy 14:28-29 1 Corinthians 10:24 Matthew 6:24 Zechariah 11:12 Exodus 16:16-18 James 5:1-6 Leviticus 25:35-38 Matthew 20:1-34 Proverbs 28:8 Psalm 112:9 2 Corinthians 8:1-9:15 1 Corinthians 9:7 Jeremiah 29:7 Proverbs 30:8-9 Deuteronomy 15:9-11 Revelation 13:1-18 Revelation 1:1-20 2 Thessalonians 3:1-18 1 Thessalonians 4:1-18 Philippians 4:1-23 Philippians 2:1-30 Luke 12:1-59 Matthew 25:1-46 Isaiah 65:21-22 Proverbs 28:27 Proverbs 18:8-12 Psalm 118:8 Psalm 112:1-113:9 Nehemiah 1:1-11 1 Samuel 2:3-11 Deuteronomy 23:24-25 Deuteronomy 10:18 Leviticus 23:1-25:55 Exodus 23:10-11 Acts 4:1-37 Acts 2:1-47 John 12:1-50 John 10:1-42 Luke 3:1-38 Matthew 25:15 Matthew 20:15 Zechariah 14:1-21 Micah 2:1-3:12 Jeremiah 32:1-44 Jeremiah 17:1-27 Jeremiah 5:1-31 Psalm 81:1-82:8 Leviticus 23:22 1 John 3:12-23 Galatians 6:1-18 2 Corinthians 9:7 1 Corinthians 12:1-31 Luke 11:1-54 Matthew 26:1-12 Matthew 19:21-24 Isaiah 26:1-21 Isaiah 25:1-12 Proverbs 31:9 Proverbs 13:4 1 Timothy 5:8 Romans 13:1-14 Luke 14:13-14 Mark 7:24-29 Matthew 25:31-36 Matthew 13:44 Amos 8:1-14 Ezekiel 17:1-10 Isaiah 3:1-26 Proverbs 29:21 Proverbs 27:17-27 Proverbs 20:13-30 Proverbs 19:10 Proverbs 17:14-28 Proverbs 11:18-26 Proverbs 10:2-7 Psalm 109:4 Psalm 28:1-9 Nehemiah 5:1-19 Exodus 23:3 Exodus 18:18-27 Exodus 5:7 1 Corinthians 3:7-11 John 8:32 Matthew 21:1-46 Matthew 20:1-16 Matthew 7:12 Daniel 11:1-45 Problem is that most Christians do not know their own shit. They are Christians only because they were indoctrinated by their parents and/or grandparents. They know bits and pieces that were fed to them when they were little. Anti-socialist or Anti-communist Christian is an oxymoron. Jesus was the first Socialist. You are in denial. |
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FYI tecshare calls anything he thinks is bad "communism" and you should read his posts with his definition in mind. genocide=communism transgender=communism climate change=communism atheism=communism etc etc While your opinion is true that just because other Muslims are terrorists doesn't make all Muslims to be terrorists but we can't blame people from the trauma they're experiencing because of what other Muslims are doing. It is like putting one spoiled tomato in a a basket full of good tomatoes spoil them all. It is their Muslim brothers that are destroying the reputations of Muslims in general and causing hatred to the people.
This is absolutely a bigoted double standard. You are allowing a few muslims to destroy the reputation of islam but have not let the christian terrorists destroy the reputation of christianity. In my country, the USA, most terrorists are Christian yet people fear muslims because they are "foreign" and they don't get fair representation in the media. Our media only shows news stories from muslim countries when they are related to war or terror. Our TV shows and movies mostly cast muslims into terror-related roles. This has had a dehumanizing affect on muslims. TV will never tell the truth. I recommend you travel to some muslim countries and you will actually find them to be much more friendly and hospitable than western countries. Travel to Iran, Pakistan, and Indonesia. These are among the largest muslim countries in the world and the friendliest, most hospitable counties I have ever been but mentioning them strikes fear into the heart of most Americans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWeWxl7ruGEThat's because the Hegelian dialectic, which Communism is based upon, can be applied to literally anything to subvert any goal, group, or cause using overt goals to serve ulterior motives. I know to simple people like you it sounds like I am just saying everything is Communism, but that is because you don't want to critically examine anything I present, so your brain finds easy ways to dismiss any information I put in front of you that challenges your belief system. Regarding the rest of your horse shit, you don't have any evidence to support your assertion that "most terrorists are Christian", this is just some shit simple minded trendy lefties like you like to run around telling each other to justify your own bigotry while you defend an ACTUAL supremacist political ideology in the name of fighting racism. Your lies literally cost people their lives. Nothing to worry though, it was just "neck wounds". Yet, he fails to see socialist and communist ideas in Christianity. The way I see it, Jesus character was the first socialist.
It is funny to see him draw is half-ass conclusions. He thinks disbelief in the supernatural is somehow related to the economic system,
and if you are on the left of the political spectrum, you are mentally ill.
The guy is a twit. Don't take him too seriously. Sorry, but Christianity is not based on Socialism or Communism regardless of your mental gymnastics to try to shoehorn that one in there. Communism is not only an economic system, but a political ideology as well. Communism seeks to crush all religion because it is antithetical to its goals, this doesn't mean if you are atheist you some how automatically support Communism. Of course you know this, but you desperately need to find a way to take pot shots at anyone who dares question your religion of atheism. Your behavior is indistinguishable from any other form of religious supremacy, but you are far too convinced of your own superiority to notice this. What you have shown with your last post is you do not even know your own Christian mythology. Socialist doctrine is based on the Christian ideology. You got this backwards. Do you even know what my position is? Are you sure you questioned the atheist position? Where are your arguments to prove that the supernatural exists? Here is your chance to win the Nobel Prize. Let's go.You are an opinionated, Christian Anarchist who disagrees with everything he sees or hears. You are just an automaton with no original critical thinking skills, IMHO. |
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