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1361  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: April 10, 2019, 05:10:16 PM
^^^ There is no globe, no planets, no gravity and no outer space in the Bible, you're a heretic!

You talk so silly.

God created the whole universe. He did it by speaking it into being. We can barely transmute a few elements in nuclear reactors, at great expense. In other words, God is so great beyond us that if He doesn't reduce His language usage to something we can understand, there would be no way to understand Him.

God spoke the Bible to people in the way that we understood back then. If EVERYBODY today understood that the globe, the planets, gravity and outer space exist, God would have included them in the Bible. But of course, He did. It's just that He didn't talk about them directly except very slightly.

You are entirely misusing the Bible. Of course, people have done much worse at times.

Cool

400 years ago you would be burned at the stake for your views of the Bible and the universe.

Again, notmatman is right, according to your Judeo Christian mythology, you are a heretic.

Remember what happened to Giordano Bruno? 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno

1362  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? on: April 10, 2019, 03:49:14 PM
FYI tecshare calls anything he thinks is bad "communism" and you should read his posts with his definition in mind. genocide=communism transgender=communism climate change=communism atheism=communism etc etc

While your opinion is true that just because other Muslims are terrorists doesn't make all Muslims to be terrorists but we can't blame people from the trauma they're experiencing because of what other Muslims are doing. It is like putting one spoiled tomato in a a basket full of good tomatoes spoil them all. It is their Muslim brothers that are destroying the reputations of Muslims in general and causing hatred to the people.
This is absolutely a bigoted double standard.  You are allowing a few muslims to destroy the reputation of islam but have not let the christian terrorists destroy the reputation of christianity.  

In my country, the USA, most terrorists are Christian yet people fear muslims because they are "foreign" and they don't get fair representation in the media.  Our media only shows news stories from muslim countries when they are related to war or terror.   Our TV shows and movies mostly cast muslims into terror-related roles.  This has had a dehumanizing affect on muslims. TV will never tell the truth.

I recommend you travel to some muslim countries and you will actually find them to be much more friendly and hospitable than western countries.  Travel to Iran, Pakistan, and Indonesia.  These are among the largest muslim countries in the world and the friendliest, most hospitable counties I have ever been but mentioning them strikes fear into the heart of most Americans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWeWxl7ruGE

Yet, he fails to see socialist and communist ideas in Christianity.  The way I see it, Jesus character was the first socialist.

It is funny to see him draw is half-ass conclusions. He thinks disbelief in the supernatural is somehow related to the economic system,
and if you are on the left of the political spectrum, you are mentally ill.

The guy is a twit.  Don't take him too seriously.
1363  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? on: April 10, 2019, 01:07:33 AM
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I read his manifesto within hours of the attack (before any editing), he is a white supremacist and even though he doesn't identify himself as a christian, he is one. Period.

Are you butt-hurt because you are white and for once the terrorist is white ?
Then, take a breath, do some yoga and stop calling everyone of color a terrorist

He might have been Christian.  We are all born into one religion or other.  It does not mean we all stay religious when we grow up.

But that is not who he "was" or why he did what he did. He was anti-Marxist, anti-capitalist, anti-globalist and eco-fascist.  He thought non-whites were responsible for climate change because of the high birth rates, he had a point there, BTW.  The root cause of climate change and global pollution is rapid population growth.  He was a white nationalist.

The difference between this guy and Muslim terrorists is that Muslims do it in the name of their religion with a clear objective of establishing a global Islamic Caliphate as Allah commands them.

This guy clearly had different motives: "protection of white race, European culture" etc, not to just kill non-Christians in the name of Jesus.

It was all about race, not religion.
1364  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Mother Forcing Chemical Castration & Gender Reassignment of 6 Year Old Boy In TX on: April 09, 2019, 12:43:13 PM
Can anyone tell me how any of this is distinguishable from state sponsored child abuse and mutilation? A six year old child doesn't know anything about sex or gender and would say anything their parent or parents want them to to get their approval. This kind of thing is becoming a regular occurrence and CPS are taking people's children over refusing to allow this to be done to their children. This subject needs to have more attention on it. This is an inexcusable trauma and permanent mutilation of children backed by state power. This needs to stop.

https://savejames.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py_AcKYkifU

That is irresponsible parenting.

Nasty divorce battle can fuck up some parents, and kids suffer in the process.

I think the expert who diagnosed him should examine him again.  Clearly, it is not a clear cut case like the mother portrays it.

I think the mother has some mental issues and she is projecting it on the boy.
1365  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: April 09, 2019, 03:42:43 AM
The Bible is a Flat Earth book from from Genesis to Revelation.

The Defeat of Satan

"And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven and consumed them, and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever." -- Revelation 20:7-10 ESV

But, the Bible is also a Globe Earth book from Genesis to Revelation. Why? Because the deception talked about in the above passage has to do with believing in God and Jesus salvation, AND being on God's side, in favor of Him rather than against Him. It doesn't have anything to do with the shape of the earth.

Cool

BADecker, notbatman is right on this point.  The Bible clearly describes the FE model, in many verses, not just one.  Not sure why you are fighting this.  All Christians, for centuries, believed that Earth is flat and in the center of the universe until Copernicus and Galileo showed them that it is not the case. 

It is funny to see how your delusion overlaps with his and two of you keep arguing about your delusions.

Earth is a globe, Earth is 4.5 billion years old, we are primates belonging to the Ape Family, Earth spins on its axis, rotates around the Sun, our solar system spirals around the black hole in the middle of our galaxy.  Those are the facts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4V-ooITrws

notbatman is right if you use the particular translation. Check out https://biblehub.com/revelation/20-9.htm to see the different ways the various translators translate this. Check out Bible Gateway - https://www.biblegateway.com/ to find more translations.

Also, check out verse 8 - https://biblehub.com/revelation/20-8.htm, and in notbatman's quoted post, above - where it talks about the four corners of the earth. So we see that the wording of this paragraph - verses 7 thru 10 - is very figurative, as is the whole chapter. It doesn't have anything to do with describing the shape of the earth. Rather, it is used to denote peoples from all around the earth. But not the shape of the earth.



There is no proof, but only speculation with a little scientific indication, that:
- the earth is 4.5 billion years old;
- that evolution is real;
- that there is a black hole in the center of our galaxy.

How can we tell that these things are not known to be real or true or factual? Because we don't know that universe physics, the electromagnetic spectrum, and time weren't different when the light we are currently receiving was broadcast. Until we know how those things operated back then, and what their laws were, we will never be able to tell if any of the above 3 things are anywhere near true.

Cool

Sure, the world is a magical place for you, isn't it?  and yet, you know how the "things operated back then" because some Jewish scribe wrote them down?  Where is your skepticism? Went out of the window the moment you open the Bible?

notbatman and you are like two peas in a pod.

BTW, why do we need translations of the Bible?  Ask God to write them in modern English.  He knows English, doesn't he?

Better yet, ask God to post in this thread and explain to everyone the shape of our planet.

And more importantly, why God does not have a website, a call center, an email address?  Why not?
1366  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? on: April 09, 2019, 02:39:33 AM
Governments in most western countries already have authority over "God's laws".  Nobody in the US is killing gays for being gay or children who disobey their parents as your Christian God commanded.

What are you suggesting?  Sharia Law?  Make up your mind.

You can have secular laws (you know the ones that we developed despite the objections from the religious freaks) and no God in public or private life.

You Christians somehow connect atheism with communism.  I don't get it.  Apples and oranges.

Sorry but you don't have any fucking idea what you are talking about in the slightest. Again, as I said before, you are simply another form of religious zealot completely convinced of the correctitude of your belief system, and I find debating the validity of peoples beliefs to be an asinine task even if you were capable of an intellectually honest debate on this topic. Take it to the atheism thread, no one is interested in watching you jerk yourself off here and it is off topic.

Looks like you have no idea how to respond.  Take your Christian, Bronze Age values to a Christian thread.

You are the one who is mentally masturbating with your Bronze Age moral code vs Sharia Law.
"Ban or reform the Sharia Law, no wait, follow the Bible moral code, no wait, I don't know what I am saying"  that is the thought train wreck that is running through your head.

They are both the same.  Sharia Law was based on the fucking Bible.  Get it?  Buy a clue.

We are done here.
1367  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? on: April 09, 2019, 12:57:07 AM
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This brain disease (aka religion) affects us all, poor, rich, smart or dumb.  The only solution is a complete eradication, to the last scripture and last preacher.  Each affected person is a victim in a way.

The only difference between now and back then is that back then, 100% believed in this shit/superstition/witchcraft, etc, today about 80-85% of people still cling on to such irrational beliefs.  

Obviously, we have a long way to go to eradicate this plague.

I don't agree with this but am very familiar with the arguments, being pretty much an atheist. The details don't fit in this thread.

But let me just say that if you did "eradicate this plague," then you have to face what comes next. And as that is the uncontrollable product of a type of revolution, it's likely it would be worse. There are many historical examples of this.

Exactly, that is my number #1 criticism of atheism. Without the concept of God, however you perceive it, the state becomes the defacto God as the highest authority on Earth, accountable to no one. This is why in the USA all of our constitutional rights are "God given" rights, or inalienable if you prefer, as the state can neither grant them nor take them away. Coincidentally this is one reason why I find Communism so abhorrent because its goal is to become the secular God, and as you said history shows how that turns out...

Governments in most western countries already have authority over "God's laws".  Nobody in the US is killing gays for being gay or children who disobey their parents as your Christian God commanded.

What are you suggesting?  Sharia Law?  Make up your mind.

You can have secular laws (you know the ones that we developed despite the objections from the religious freaks) and no God in public or private life.

You Christians somehow connect atheism with communism.  I don't get it.  Apples and oranges.



1368  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? on: April 09, 2019, 12:47:36 AM
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This brain disease (aka religion) affects us all, poor, rich, smart or dumb.  The only solution is a complete eradication, to the last scripture and last preacher.  Each affected person is a victim in a way.

The only difference between now and back then is that back then, 100% believed in this shit/superstition/witchcraft, etc, today about 80-85% of people still cling on to such irrational beliefs.  

Obviously, we have a long way to go to eradicate this plague.

I don't agree with this but am very familiar with the arguments, being pretty much an atheist. The details don't fit in this thread.

But let me just say that if you did "eradicate this plague," then you have to face what comes next. And as that is the uncontrollable product of a type of revolution, it's likely it would be worse. There are many historical examples of this.

Why anything has to come next?  What are you talking about?  Why does it have to be a "revolution"?

Keep the social structures, economic systems intact.  Science and technology is the only way forward.

Religions will not help us land on Mars, develop new cures or ways to survive on this increasingly polluted rock.

When we cured polio, there was no revolution required.  Same thing here.  You help people who need help with this mental disorder.
1369  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? on: April 08, 2019, 07:05:19 PM
This brain disease (aka religion) affects us all, poor, rich, smart or dumb.  The only solution is a complete eradication, to the last scripture and last preacher.  Each affected person is a victim in a way.

The only difference between now and back then is that back then, 100% believed in this shit/superstition/witchcraft, etc, today about 80-85% of people still cling on to such irrational beliefs.  

Obviously, we have a long way to go to eradicate this plague.

This is where I have to push back. This is not a solution, and attempting to do so will create significantly more bloodshed and pain on all sides from all religious backgrounds as well as the secular world. Banning any religion is never going to be a solution, as history shows. Furthermore atheism itself is just another system of belief based upon just as much evidence, none.

Religion serves many constructive purposes, also many destructive purposes. As any organization, it is vulnerable to infiltration and subversion for destructive purposes, it doesn't have to even be a religion. That doesn't mean it shouldn't be restrained and checked, but I find it quite simplistic, childish, and counterproductive to attempt to just blanket ban religion as a whole.

However this is getting quite far off topic and belongs more in the atheism thread you are quite fond of, which I specifically avoid because as I stated atheism is just another form of religion, and you can't reason with religious zealots convinced of their correctitude, be they theist or atheist.

So do Nazism and Fascism.  Or the use of cocaine (it was used to treat a common cold in the past).

If you have any logical arguments for theism, let's hear it.  I would be glad to rip your arguments to pieces.
1370  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? on: April 08, 2019, 06:02:26 PM
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Why don't you first start by admitting that Islam is a supremacist ideology?  And stop playing this "we are the victim" game.

Is it wrong to own slaves?  Is it wrong to stone adulterers?  Is it wrong to kill homosexuals, Jews, atheists?
Was Allah wrong when he recommended these punishments?

I think you have quite a bit of work to do BEFORE you start looking OUTSIDE of your own political system aka Islam.

Hint:  You can start by saying that Allah did not really mean it, and gave those laws only to people in the 6th century.

There have been numerous Muslim apologists do this, by noting such things as "such and such an order in the Quran to kill infidels" applied only to a particular issue or battle during the life of their Prophet.

Regardless, I do prefer the Christian montage, "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."

It would be easier to reform this system in the age of ignorance.  You would just say that the angels came to the Caliph and told him to amend the Quran and everyone would accept it.

Today, we have cameras, audio, and infrared recording equipment so no one would believe such claims.  So moderate Muslims are in a bit of pickle.  On one hand, they cannot undermine the authority of Allah and risk of being killed and on the other, they do not want to look like the ignorant, sadistic idiots of the 6th century who assembled this book (20-30 years after Muhammad died).
It may come as a shock to you, in this age of cameras, audio and infrared, but this is as much an age of ignorance as any other age might have been.

This brain disease (aka religion) affects us all, poor, rich, smart or dumb.  The only solution is a complete eradication, to the last scripture and last preacher.  Each affected person is a victim in a way.

The only difference between now and back then is that back then, 100% believed in this shit/superstition/witchcraft, etc, today about 80-85% of people still cling on to such irrational beliefs.  

Obviously, we have a long way to go to eradicate this plague.
1371  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: April 08, 2019, 03:22:10 PM
The Bible is a Flat Earth book from from Genesis to Revelation.

The Defeat of Satan

"And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven and consumed them, and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever." -- Revelation 20:7-10 ESV

But, the Bible is also a Globe Earth book from Genesis to Revelation. Why? Because the deception talked about in the above passage has to do with believing in God and Jesus salvation, AND being on God's side, in favor of Him rather than against Him. It doesn't have anything to do with the shape of the earth.

Cool

BADecker, notbatman is right on this point.  The Bible clearly describes the FE model, in many verses, not just one.  Not sure why you are fighting this.  All Christians, for centuries, believed that Earth is flat and in the center of the universe until Copernicus and Galileo showed them that it is not the case. 

It is funny to see how your delusion overlaps with his and two of you keep arguing about your delusions.

Earth is a globe, Earth is 4.5 billion years old, we are primates belonging to the Ape Family, Earth spins on its axis, rotates around the Sun, our solar system spirals around the black hole in the middle of our galaxy.  Those are the facts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4V-ooITrws
1372  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Homosexuality is a dangerous mental disorder on: April 08, 2019, 02:58:01 PM
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Don't let the Liberals brainwash you, Gays are worse than serial killers. Sodomy is the main source for all STDs (yes ALL of them), when a gay or bisexual man decides to have sex with a woman she is done! She will definitly 100% catch something, they are sick, they dont reproduice and if they did they give us children with Aids / Herpies or some other sickness. They have brainwashed western public to accept their filthy lifestyles in alliance with mainstream media elite.

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https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/07/25/gay-people-are-turning-to-satan/

Do us all a favor and "dont reproduice".
1373  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? on: April 08, 2019, 02:54:06 PM
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Why don't you first start by admitting that Islam is a supremacist ideology?  And stop playing this "we are the victim" game.

Is it wrong to own slaves?  Is it wrong to stone adulterers?  Is it wrong to kill homosexuals, Jews, atheists?
Was Allah wrong when he recommended these punishments?

I think you have quite a bit of work to do BEFORE you start looking OUTSIDE of your own political system aka Islam.

Hint:  You can start by saying that Allah did not really mean it, and gave those laws only to people in the 6th century.

There have been numerous Muslim apologists do this, by noting such things as "such and such an order in the Quran to kill infidels" applied only to a particular issue or battle during the life of their Prophet.

Regardless, I do prefer the Christian montage, "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."

It would be easier to reform this system in the age of ignorance.  You would just say that the angels came to the Caliph and told him to amend the Quran and everyone would accept it.

Today, we have cameras, audio, and infrared recording equipment so no one would believe such claims.  So moderate Muslims are in a bit of pickle.  On one hand, they cannot undermine the authority of Allah and risk of being killed and on the other, they do not want to look like the ignorant, sadistic idiots of the 6th century who assembled this book (20-30 years after Muhammad died).

1374  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? on: April 08, 2019, 11:55:38 AM
^^^ I like what you say, especially the "fellow human being" part. Islam teaches that people who are not Muslims are not the fellow human beings of Muslims. Rather, they can be lied to and tricked and eventually executed if they won't convert.

Thank you for your wonderful insight into this.

Cool
Is it any statement on the Quaran states that,if someone won't agree to convert into Islams they have to excecute them?
Then why all those arabic countries have non muslim citizens.

https://quran.com/9/5
"And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."

Some Muslims are good DESPITE their religion and will not kill another human being regardless of what ALLAH (or any other imaginary God) 'said' in the HOLY book.
I didn't know what Quran says,all I know is how the modern days muslims from my neighborhood reacts and they are good in my knowledge so don't call all Muslims as terrorist is my arguement.

How do you know those people are Muslims? Maybe they are only saying that they are Muslims, but really are not.

Why would they say that they are Muslims when they aren't? Because like you, they haven't read all of the Koran and Hadiths. Like you they don't realize that they aren't Muslims but are being deceived into thinkiong that they are Muslims.

True Muslims are people who follow Islam. And Islam says that Muslims have to be blatantly and dynamically violent at times. Islam says that when Muslims are not violent, it is for converting non-Muslims to Islam, or it is to deceive non-Muslims.

Further, What is a peaceful Muslim going to do when his clerics tell him that now is the time that he has to act violently and kill the infidels? Is he going to disobey thereby endangering himself and his whole family from the punishment that comes to backsliding Muslims? Probably not! More than likely he will suddenly learn how to become violent.

So, stop saying that Muslims aren't violent. If they aren't, they aren't Muslims.

Cool
If someone consdered to be an complete muslim they have five duty to complete which are kalima,five times prayer,pasting in Ramadhan,help the people in need and finally Hajj so they are following it so I call them as muslims.
Even I asked about the statment you guys mentioned with some of my muslim friends why they need to be violent if they have to be muslim but they said that some parts of Quran were replaced by wrong sentences intentionally and show to others as they were bad guys.

If you think that some parts of the Koran and Hadiths were "replaced by wrong sentences intentionally," how do you know which ones? Maybe the ones you/they say are the "wrong" ones, are really the only right ones, and all the "good" ones are the wrong ones.

If you have to judge which parts of Islam are right and which ones are wrong, maybe there are as many different versions of Islam as there are Muslims.

This is chaos. You are talking about a religion of chaos. If Muslims are violent at times, because they accept the violent parts of the Koran as the true parts, Islam really means to think and do whatever you like.

This makes Islam way worse of a religion than has been described in this thread so far. And you are the one who is showing it to be this way.

Cool

The bible has it's own fair share of violence, genocide, immorality etc. As the quran if you'd dig deep into it. I think the difference is that there are a lot of apologists and leaders who interpret the bible differently scrubbing out all the bad things there while muslim leaders are somewhat purists, sticking exactly to their holybook quite literally.


Theres just bad people that interpret in a bad way.

Compare to BTC for example. BTC isn't responsible for Money Laundering the person that uses it is. But anytime someone is convicted of a crime and BTC is involved whats the first thing said BTC is use for MONEY Laundering.

In the case of Islam as a religion any bad that occurs is used to justify the adversity interpreted in the Quran as bad. What my point is in anything you can make a statement sound good or bad. so my suggestion there are over 1.5 billion worldwide and a small minority of these do absolutely stupid things that even there religion does not permit so lets tarnish the whole 1.5 BILIION.

Why don't you first start by admitting that Islam is a supremacist ideology?  And stop playing this "we are the victim" game.

Is it wrong to own slaves?  Is it wrong to stone adulterers?  Is it wrong to kill homosexuals, Jews, atheists?
Was Allah wrong when he recommended these punishments?

I think you have quite a bit of work to do BEFORE you start looking OUTSIDE of your own political system aka Islam.

Hint:  You can start by saying that Allah did not really mean it, and gave those laws only to people in the 6th century.


1375  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Would you sell your soul for money ? Isnt it obvious money is the problem tday. on: April 07, 2019, 03:57:04 PM
If everyone be free happy share n fair.  There is no need for rich n poor.

Soul?  A better question is:

Would you buy my soul?  PM me if you are interested.

Comes cheap, hurry!!!

This post is for all religious freaks who believe in soul, if you really believe in it, put your money where your mouth is, buy my soul!!!

"Comes cheap," is a downright lie. The devil already has it, and he won't sell it to anyone cheap. Of course, you can only expect a lie from one whose soul is owned by the devil.

Cool

I will also sell you a "devil in a box".  Buy both, my soul and a "devil in a box" and get 20% off the regular price.  Hurry, time is running out.  Jesus is coming...look busy.

PM me if you are interested.
1376  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: April 07, 2019, 03:51:17 PM


The computer knows it's flat.

That website installs: JS/Mindspark.G potentially unwanted application
1377  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Society is knowledgeable but not wise. on: April 06, 2019, 03:48:26 PM

I find many instances in life where I think society is having all the data,facts and information (means they got knowledge) but still they are making bad choices. (lack of wisdom).

For ex: People know that overspeeding can cause accident (have knowledge) but still they overspeed (making bad choice, lack of wisdom)
           People know that there bad eating  habit affecting their health but still they eat junk.
           People know they should exercise but they ignore it.

I guess the list can go endless for many trivial things.

Do you guys know something that people in your neighbourhood/family/society knows very well but still exhibit bad choices?

Google "IQ regression to the mean".  Humanity as a whole is pretty dumb as a result.  Very difficult to raise an IQ of any given population, it takes millennia of selective breeding to accomplish this.  See Ashkenazi Jews as an example.

Another reason is that we tend to not trust the experiences and wisdom of people who are outside of our social/religious/political circles and we end up learning from our own mistakes.  Kids trust other kids, not their parents. Churchgoers will trust other churchgoers, not scientists who undermine their belief system.  Democrats will not trust Republicans and vice versa.  Communists will not trust capitalists and vice versa.  The list is endless.

1378  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? on: April 06, 2019, 01:31:53 PM
^^^ I like what you say, especially the "fellow human being" part. Islam teaches that people who are not Muslims are not the fellow human beings of Muslims. Rather, they can be lied to and tricked and eventually executed if they won't convert.

Thank you for your wonderful insight into this.

Cool
Is it any statement on the Quaran states that,if someone won't agree to convert into Islams they have to excecute them?
Then why all those arabic countries have non muslim citizens.

https://quran.com/9/5
"And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."

Some Muslims are good DESPITE their religion and will not kill another human being regardless of what ALLAH (or any other imaginary God) 'said' in the HOLY book.
1379  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: April 06, 2019, 12:09:35 PM
^^^ All those words without any point for them. Why not post more?

Oh, yes. There's a limit to how many words the forum allows in one post.

Nothing wrong with posting a bunch of words. It's fun.

 Cheesy

You said: ''Haven't you seen the term "law of gravity?" But you haven't seen the term "law of evolution," right? What does this show us? It shows that gravity is known to be real, but that evolution isn't known to be real, even though we have theories about both.'' Directly implying that if something is not a law, it means it's not know to be true which is simply false and wrong as shown in my post.

A law and a scientific theory are two different things and  one is not better than the other. A scientific theory can and will use, laws, facts and hypothesis to explain certain phenomena, you simply don't understand this, again, you are proven wrong.

Why do you think I don't understand this? The part you left out was that no matter how many facts/laws/pieces-of-reality a science theory has, it is still not known to be factual or true... except that it is a theory, of course.

The law of gravity is the observation that gravity is real. The theory of gravity is the observation that we don't know why gravity works in the ways it does, but that we are trying to figure these ways out.

There isn't any law of ETE (evolution theory evolution). This is because ETE is not known to be real. In this case evolution theory is trying to prove that evolution is real by finding some of it. So far none of it has been found that does not fit other things better, and should be called one of those other things rather than "evolution." Why? Because the evolution that we are searching for and talking about is ETE, which hasn't been proven.

We know that what we are observing is gravity. We don't know that what we are observing is ETE.

Why do I say ETE? Because the word "evolution" fits all kinds of things, like how the Model T became the many lines of Ford cars that are out there. If ETE isn't clear enough, then maybe we should start saying "the ETE regarding Darwin's survival of the fittest, or regarding his tree of life" or something similar, so that we are on the same page.

ETE isn't known to exist. Most deep-thinking students and teachers of ETE know this, or at least suspect it. When they suggest or imply that ETE is known to be factual evolution by proof, that's when evolution is a hoax.

Since much of science acts like this, it's time to look at the fact that God exists.

Cool

''"Laws are descriptions — often mathematical descriptions — of natural phenomenon; for example, Newton's Law of Gravity or Mendel's Law of Independent Assortment. ''

''Mendel's Law of Independent Assortment describes how different traits are passed from parent to offspring, not how or why it happens," Coppinger said.

Another example of the difference between a theory and a law would be the case of Gregor Mendel. Mendel discovered that two different genetic traits would appear independently of each other in different offspring. "Yet Mendel knew nothing of DNA or chromosomes. It wasn't until a century later that scientists discovered DNA and chromosomes — the biochemical explanation of Mendel's laws. It was only then that scientists, such as T.H. Morgan working with fruit flies, explained the Law of Independent Assortment using the theory of chromosomal inheritance. Still today, this is the universally accepted explanation (theory) for Mendel's Law," Coppinger said.''

There are in fact many laws that are directly related to evolution and are used to prove it. You are wrong again. Also there are a ton scientific theories that have no laws.

For your peanut brain, A SCIENTIFIC THEORY DOESN'T NEED TO BE A LAW TO BE TRUE.

''it is still not known to be factual or true..'' Your god is not know to be factual or true and yet you still believe  in him.

I think an interesting question is why does he believe in his God, not Zeus or Allah?

I propose two 'religion laws':

Law I: "A human primate most likely believes in God that he/she was indoctrinated into as a child."
Law II: "A fully grown human primate is less susceptible to religious indoctrination than a young human primate unless that specimen is psychologically weak."

No wonder we are always 'born into the right religion'.
1380  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: April 05, 2019, 09:41:28 PM
PS. God is doing shit.  Hey God, you little fuck, get in here and post my PIN number.

I killed badecker's god years ago.  I am the real Vod.

Your PIN is (obviously) 6969.

LOL.

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Does any other God, Fod, Tod, Yod, Hod, or Bod want to try?
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