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2421  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 15, 2014, 04:50:12 PM
Barabbas i am veri confused about you buddy on whichs side are you exactly?
Pro vericoin? Critic on vericoin? I am to lazy to read you essays Cheesy

First of all I am on the side of people that self respect themselves and don't idiotically diminish themselves like you just did a few posts above prompted by the rant of a drunk. I am on the side of people that will push themselves to excel at whatever tasks they set for themselves and that never, ever, will define themselves as "shit", "failure" or whatever  used to portray yourself as the lowest possible form of a community representative, ok? Pull yourself together, take a long shower -with soap and shampoo- get the cleanest clothes you can muster and represent Vericoin with dignity and enthusiasm, ok?

Only AFTER you have done that and re-evaluate what you have in you, I am on the side of creating a worldwide event in which you will play a part promoting VERICON. It is a historical even, World Vericon Day. And contrary to what some may thing, while it will take one day only, it will "live" forever" through the graphic evidences posted everywhere and, most importantly, through the subsequent work, on a day to day basis, that yuo and many other worthy VRC leaders will carry out across the world.

Finally, study the word "critic", so you will have an appreciation of what it means. I know, much like "work" it is a word whose meaning seem lost in the young generation. Being critic is not negative, but the opposite. Especially when the criticisms come with ideas, suggestions and alternatives. There's no such a thing -although people in your generation use and abuse the adjective- as "positive" criticism. All criticisms are positive so it is like calling water wet. But the arrogant cannot see it that way, of course, therefore it is termed, usually, "negative", which is like calling water "dry". I am critical of the many aspects of Vericoin where we have come short -and indeed still come short... read above about the multipool-. And I am a critic of all the things done wrong or, worse yet, not done at all. And no matter how supportive of the project I may be, I will continue to push the foot to the pedal to get things done, to get the PROPER things done.

I am also very critical of dispersing resources trying to be everything to everybody while being nothing specific instead and drifting into oblivion, like we were 24 hours or so ago, while everyone seemed to be on vacation or, ultimately, hanging hopes on "secret weapons" announcements bound to disappoint. And I am critical towards arrogance, mine included. In all cases, even when "justified" by knowledge/experience. But I am especially critic of the arrogance that impedes flexibility and progression.

I'm afraid I won't have clarified much to you, but perhaps you should think a little bit more, collect your thoughts and ideas and then decide what your perception is going to be.

I'm counting of your... the best version of you you can offer, that is.

So are you getting paid for this vericoin work? I read a few pages back, you offered your service twice and have been waiting for big money offers come through. Now it seems you are a de-facto leader which would be amazing achievement from your part given that no one really can understand what you say and what's your role, whether you are a FUDster, hater, cynic critics, worker, bag holder, supporter, cyber-visionary, missionary, strategist or VeriLeader candidate - or perhaps all together. What are you Barrabas, are you going to lead the world day initiative?

Provided you are sober, which is doubtful at best, I'll explain one last time... in bullets for easier comprehension for I know what alcohol can do to your neurons:
 
- I am not paid for the Wold Vericoin Day initiative nor I seek more involvement than providing the content for the pamphlet to be distributed.

- I have offered this very same initiative -with many other strings attached, of course-, on a PAID basis, to the PINK main dev. All has been presented publicly in their forum so you can read every single basic detail. There were others but what's posted there sums it up thoroughly.

- I am what I am like Popeye said. It will never ever be even close to whatever your perception of me, which is not of my incumbence, you choose to have.

Helpful? Otherwise you can get back to the bottle at your leisure.
2422  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 15, 2014, 04:00:19 PM
Barabbas i am veri confused about you buddy on whichs side are you exactly?
Pro vericoin? Critic on vericoin? I am to lazy to read you essays Cheesy

First of all I am on the side of people that self respect themselves and don't idiotically diminish themselves like you just did a few posts above prompted by the rant of a drunk. I am on the side of people that will push themselves to excel at whatever tasks they set for themselves and that never, ever, will define themselves as "shit", "failure" or whatever  used to portray yourself as the lowest possible form of a community representative, ok? Pull yourself together, take a long shower -with soap and shampoo- get the cleanest clothes you can muster and represent Vericoin with dignity and enthusiasm, ok?

Only AFTER you have done that and re-evaluate what you have in you, I am on the side of creating a worldwide event in which you will play a part promoting VERICON. It is a historical event, World Vericon Day. And contrary to what some may think, while it will take one day only, it will "live" forever" through the graphic evidences posted everywhere and, most importantly, through the subsequent work, on a day to day basis, that you and many other worthy VRC leaders will carry out across the world.

Finally, study the word "critic", so you will have an appreciation of what it means. I know, much like "work" it is a word whose meaning seem lost in the young generation. Being critic is not negative, but the opposite. Especially when the criticisms come with ideas, suggestions and alternatives. There's no such a thing -although people in your generation use and abuse the adjective- as "positive" criticism. All criticisms are positive so it is like calling water wet. But the arrogant cannot see it that way, of course, therefore it is termed, usually, "negative", which is like calling water "dry". Or, the "delicate" that instead of "positive" substite the adjective by "objective", another impossibility in terms.  I am critical of the many aspects of Vericoin where we have come short -and indeed still come short... read above about the multipool-. And I am a critic of all the things done wrong or, worse yet, not done at all. And no matter how supportive of the project I may be, I will continue to push the foot to the pedal to get things done, to get the PROPER things done.

I am also very critical of dispersing resources trying to be everything to everybody while being nothing specific instead and drifting into oblivion, like we were 24 hours or so ago, while everyone seemed to be on vacation or, ultimately, hanging hopes on "secret weapons" announcements bound to disappoint. And I am critical towards arrogance, mine included. In all cases, even when "justified" by knowledge/experience. But I am especially critic of the arrogance that impedes flexibility and progression.

I'm afraid I won't have clarified much to you, but perhaps you should think a little bit more, collect your thoughts and ideas and then decide what your perception is going to be.

I'm counting of your... the best version of you you can offer, that is.
2423  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 15, 2014, 03:38:08 PM
About the hack at Next...

First of all, I believe NXT had, by leaps and bounds, the best platform in crypto. But the project has a very serious problem: Distribution. Some 71-72 people actually own the thing (90% of it anyway) and those same people are collecting 99% of all the "forging" (staking). That is the only reason I haven't supported and invested in NXT other than a few quick trades in the past.

Second of all, major as it is, the hack cannot be compared to the one VRC suffered since this ones has come up with 5% of NXT while "ours" took 30% and control of the coin without roll back. Not the same thing at all. Same TYPE of thing.

Thirdly, it appears that they have decided to roll back. Like when it happened here, I believe not cave in and rewarding the thief is the proper course of action. Always. No exceptions.

If anything, we can learn one lesson I have been trying to hammer here for a while now: The idea of so called "decentralized exchanges" do not work and will not work and the only thing they do is take time and resources away. Once again, VRC should focus efforts in becoming the clean brand in crypto and that the wallets are the best that they can be. Anything else, everyone is already working on it -wasting their time and resources- and everyone will be able to simply copy/paste the best, more proven of them, in the near future, from so called "anon" to "decentralized exchanges" to that thing we are trying to copy from PINK in which a password or sorts will be linked to the wallet address. First, we will save time and resources needed in other areas and, more importantly, we should give the credit where it is due. Oh, and by the way, our "multipool" (Dave, Dave, Dave) is atrocious (when it works, which is not often). Obviously we have some quite basic work to do...

Now, I won't make any more comments here about that because they have their own thread and I would suggest those so inclined to post their opinions or comments over there. We are rather busy here trying to keep the interest in OUR coin that only hours ago was being "hacked", so to speak, by total indifference and despair.

As I have anticipated, be prepared to be disappointed by the "secret weapons" announcements coming up. But don't despair because it appears the dev team is behind the latest branding ideas and, if fully confirmed, and enthusiastically, we will have a huge promotional event taking place worldwide very soon and, with it, the interest and the new investors we know we absolutely need for, like the last crisis proved thoroughly, the community, as it stands now, being by far the strongest in crypto, is not nearly enough to keep VRC alive, let alone thrive.

And thrive it will if we supports smart actions to bring it to the people outside of crypto instead of catering to the retrogrades (or self called purists) that support the dark side of crypto, the fraudsters, scammers and hackers that have held and still hold crypto currencies up for ransom and stigmatized them in the view of general public AND corporate investors. We will seek to promote the clean, honest, transparent and secure brand. And I am quite sure people and investors both will respond positively.

Now devs, I would advise you remove the otherwise ugly and amateurish graphics that seem to indicate cloak and dagger, the zorro-like one and the other. As a matter of fact, anything black at all... including the tendency -that's not in the graphics, unfortunately, for they have the BEST logo in thbe world, not just in crypto- to follow on Blackcoin, from "roadmaps" with bars to actual content. That coin is doomed by their own corrupted devs and VRC should strive to stay away from any kind of associations of that nature.

Now, copying from PINK, a clean coin, is ok... as long as credit is due. I profoundly dislike Boxxa, he's an asshole, but he is also the creator of that password thingy that allows you to type something simple instead of the bunch of characters that are the address of the wallet. Copy it, if you must, but give credit where credit is due. We are the good guys, the ones setting new standards, remember? We should be able to give credit to whoever deserves it, even if he, as the case in point is, is an asshole.
2424  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 15, 2014, 03:08:32 PM
So what happened to the price Huh Last time, 7 weeks ago when I logged in the talk was about 100K Sat price, vericoin will be in the top 3 currencies, the market cap is going to be 20 million by September. Yesterday was a big party here and everyone celebrated the 15K price. What happened in a short time since the end of June that the plans and expectations have changed so much? The question is of course academic and you should ask from yourself boys and girls even not too many hot ladies here  Cool, what happened that you are where you're.
Mintpal happend. Also would it be a good idea to setup a site dedicated for first time users? So when people recieve there paperwallet, direct them to that site?

Doesn't matter what you do with that few paper wallets and where you redirect them. You need at least 1 million $ investment, that few paper wallets won't make any differences.

You are wrong about Mintpal Sir. Perhaps Mintpal happened too, but what really happened I can tell you. What really happened is that many young delusional, over ambitious men met here and they have no idea what are they doing and talking about. I will tell you how do I know this. I visited the vericoin IRC channel about 3-4 days ago. Actually I think you and a user Galix had having a conversation there. Galix, a 23 years old guy started to explain he has a great idea, to build some new feature on the block chain, hire a developer and this new decentralized software module will sky rocket the price. Being a software person, wrote my first software program in 1969, modified lately many bitcoin pieces and libs to ARM core to run on Raspberry PI and Beaglebone Black I was curious what the "community" will tell this 23 years old Galix guy. What happened was, no one said to Galix that fuck-off, read up on at least how software development works and come back with a realistic and doable idea, but a long 30 minutes discussion started how great the idea was and how this will transfer vericoin. Look back the IRC log and you will see that I am not talking bollocks. It was bizarre that grown up men talk about some absolute bollocks. One would think AI bots talk to push the price up and try convince potential investors in case if one that kind is in the IRC room.

I read back a few pages just now. There is Buy4Crypto, he wrote several big posts about how to do business and what needs to be done with vericoin. I said, fuck me, this guy knows his stuff. Then he pushed his web site link so I took a look at it. You should do too. Buy4Crypto's web site is everything what a web site should not be in 2014. I can't even describe how bad it is, if my 16 years old grand son would give me that shit I would kick his ass very hard for that. That's not all, Buy4Crypto wrote in the next post that sorry, he can't pay for some printing job because he doesn't have money right now. Really, so your business has the most embarrassing web site, you don't have $500 and you are a VeriLeader and defining the business strategy of vericoin?

That's not all Sir, the German VeriLeader Reavon published a white paper you could read about it a few pages back. He calls that pdf white paper. That's one of the most embarrassing piece of material I have ever seen and I had seen many thousands high level software documents and currently that white paper associates with vericoin.

These guys Galix, Buy4Crypto, Reavon are the VeriLeaders. If these guys are the verileaders what you can expect from the community?

I am absolutely amazed that your young age bring out such enthusiasm and of course the energy is great, but it's just unreal how delusional this community is. Perhaps you will get lucky and whales will pump the price time to time, I will be happy for you, I have a few coins so that will be great, but this coin never will be top 5 with this delusional community.

Sorry if being too critical, I like to drink and when I do I speak out my mind  Cheesy ignore this long rant if you think you are OK and you're heading to the right direction.

Being critical is one think, appreciated -when coming from knowledge and experience- by some, me included.

Posting idiotic rants while under teh obvious influence of alcohol or whatever, is something else altogether... and not deserving of a second more.
2425  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 15, 2014, 04:58:09 AM
out of curiosity, what influence in VRC's price do you perceive out of VIA or other events? Have you seen VRC trade in tandem with BC for weeks? It has. Have you seen the rebound in BC compared to the one in VRC? Or even in NAUT or PINK today? Just curious

Well I think VIA has a pretty big part of it - but there are also a few other pieces to the puzzle (in my opinion)1. The weekend hype around the corner 2. The rejuvenated positive energy and 3. The price had just about hit the previous floor (6.5k). It realistically wasn't probably going any lower than that anyway - so I think all that mixed together made the prefect storm for a great day.

To be honest I don't follow the tandem of other coins moving in relation to VRC. I don't even follow NAUT or PINK. Sorry

Well, to have an opinion of that nature, with any weight, you should. Because you cannot pretend that money going into VIA affects VRC and doesn't affect other coins, like BC, with (usually) higher volume. (I still fail to see what in VIA may make you think it has any effect at all in VRC, by the way). The weekend hype -actually it has been announced BEFORE the weekend, meaning the "secret weapons" would be unveiled before Saturday-, as you put it, has done nothing for the coin at all save for a minimal -time-wise, for it was a nice 35-40% rebound- immediate reaction, not so much to any hype as to the devs are actually alive and active. and 3.- so all the other technicals that have been broken on the way down mean absolutely nothing but reaching  -almost- the previous floor, that one in particular -for there were others, below-, signaled to you that it would probably not go any lower?

Interesting way of thinking, no doubt.

Now that we all know that the price will never go below 6500, we all can rest at ease, of course, for only good things can happen if we bought somewhere in that neighborhood... WOW.

Back to things that make much more sense: No, you should NOT do any radio -other than local, not VRCRadio- on the day of the event. That brings NOTHING to teh event -the VRC community already knows about the event and no one else listens to VRCradio-. You must concentrate of the presentation/s, in getting as much people listening and participating in the raffles, giveaways, general fun, as possible. The time you have is really very small, only a few hours. They go by very quickly. Any LOCAL media, of course. but not VRCRadio. If you want, you can do VRCRadio any other day, idealistically the day before in case someone already in the VRC community has some friend or relative in MN and can push them to go-, but most definitely NOT on the day of the event or, more precisely, DURING the event hours (before or after is fine).

Wallets with a substantial amount -no less than $10, idealistically 20-25, will grab people's attention and will make them learn about crypto and VRC. If they are interested after the initial contact, they'll stay; if they are not, they won't. Next. Quite simple. But, either way, they'll be much more aware of crypto and VRC than they were before. And that is in some way the whole point.

2426  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 15, 2014, 04:08:09 AM
Oh and Xosihc, don't worry too much about the pamphlet, it will be ready. It will be aggressive and it will be very clear. The web address of course will be there but the web site is not made thinking the perceptions of the general population, so 99% will not pass the first click. The pamp[let will create the interest and tell them all they need to know. Hopefully we will have it ready within a day or two that why it is imperative that everyone with ideas post them asap.
2427  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 15, 2014, 04:02:40 AM
Xosihc, for me this as solid as your MN fair. Only that, sorry, that's too little. too local. Nothing to be made of it promotion wise. I am not putting you down at all, I am keeping the perspective. You are too close but this is just an even of no repercussion whatsoever outside of MN. Anyway if you want to believe that that is the cause of the rebound, feel free. I don't care. I care that World Vericoin Day happens. And the rebound will be much bigger. If it doesn't happen, I believe it will revisit singles again.

Well again, earlier tonight (like an hour ago) I said the rebound probably had 95% to do with VIAcoin and 5% to do with the outside events, if that. I could care less who is responsible for the rebound. It's nice to see one. Hopefully we can build off this momentum and keep it going.

I also get the MN State Fair has nothing to do with a global presence, but at the same time you can look up the numbers yourself (google: "MN state fair statistics") and you'll see a good 200,000+ people will be there that day. Even if I only talk to 1% of all people, and out of that 1% I talk to - I get 1% interested in VRC - that's still 20 more people than we started with for the day. The reality is, I think I can get a lot more than 20 people involved.

Finally, like I have been saying 1000x - I LOVE the idea of Vericoin World Day. I'm 100% down to support it. You just tell me what I need to do and I'll do my best to help.

Yopu are already doing it. Nothing else to do but be brilliant, funny -and have a photographer on the 30th. Get a lot of people's attention. I'm sure you and your friends will do great. Now, we need to cover about another 20-30 cities in the rest of the world so they would do their version of exactly the same thing.

The momentum won't be kept on its own. WE will have to do it.

(out of curiosity, what influence in VRC's price do you perceive out of VIA or other events? Have you seen VRC trade in tandem with BC for weeks? It has. Have you seen the rebound in BC compared to the one in VRC? Or even in NAUT or PINK today? Just curious)
2428  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 15, 2014, 03:52:15 AM
As usual, things happen very quickly in Crypto. And since one of the devs has addressed the subject, finally, and there's the usual dance of the butterflies, as expected, the idea is thrown. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, do not send a single cent to that address I posted (I am, in fact, destroying that wallet), because my involvement, from this time on, is NIL. ZERO. World Vericon Day is NO more.

Thanks to those who supported and to the rest, good luck with your projects. Doug, I sincerely hope you do DO World Vericoin Day. It is a great idea.
I hope you have enough time to implement it.

 Xosihc, dude, good luck at the fair. In itself, sorry, it is meaningless, but, again, thank you for doing something. Unfortunately, you "don't get the big picture".
You will eventually.

Dear Lord you type fast ! Ok before I even had a chance to respond.. you go off !  Huh

- read back a few post - Doug : Fantastic idea... let's plan. Me love the idea... let's chat and set a date plan of attack. Xosihc I even love his idea too.  Yoshiwatusi I support VWD * edited a bit.. but you get the point.. we love your idea.

 Please try to understand what you are proposing is like launching a rocket. it takes time to plan things.. unless you want a dud  Roll Eyes

Now since i asked about your background here is a bit about mine. I work in NY with various ad agencies, my background is advertising, design - Ask the team and some here what i have done. The reason I asked is to see how best i can use your talent / energy to help us on this major promo. * prob one of the best ideas i heard here yet. Understand that Xosihc's plan is already in progress and we can't steal his thunder either. want to help ? Help him promote. Twitter, Facebook whatever you want.

As for VWD What you are proposing is a form of guerrilla marketing / global viral aspect included. ( think of how many people we need involved)  Everything does begin with an idea, however we must plan it. Think of it this way.. i come up to you hey man, i have this great idea to design this building, bridge, product etc.. I need donation..wait..what ?? we need to rush...woah woah slow down... zero plan.. the odds are... it will fail !

Advertising is that Strategy  - we must come up with how to best engage the public. That will require planing and creativity. Hence I said realistically it will take time.

Step 1 ) Let's chat via PM.. way too many ideas plan floating up the air.. 2 ) decide what will present to the dev and community, 3 ) Now get them involved, get their ideas as well ie get final say on promo name, steps involved, tactics.  4 ) Set up and lift off !  5 ) not done yet, measure results.

That promo day can happen, most think it is a cool idea. Anytime you decide to promote a brand and create awareness, you get me psyched you will get support.



Once again man, you are obviously a man of conventional marketing. This is Crypto. In 2 weeks, we would probably have been  in the coin cemetery already if it wasn't for the MN fair idea. Like I have posted, WVD is not new, I offered weeks ago, for a fair (but significant) price to PINK. I dropped the offer and didn't take to the community for the same very reason I was dropping this one here. So there was no "inspiration" or anything like that. And no, there's no stealing any thunder either, it is put the energy into synergy and make history. Just the opposite.

And no there's no need for more time considering this will be, in effect, pure guerrilla marketing. We are putting on a show. And we are making history with it.
"Fail"? It isn't even a consideration, for it is impossible for it to fail? There's no ROI -or so minimal that it has already been more than added to the price. And it will explode much higher, even if we accomplish only a 10% of what I envision and am quite sure we can accomplish. There's no possibility of failure, none.

Now, there's much to do. Create the pamphlet, one of them so they can be printed in big amount by the leaders for very little money. A website? OK, I don't need it or care but the more the merrier. Online I am not worried, we will have the content to irrigate social networks with literature, reports, photos and videos. I do want the leaders to make of this just the starting point of an activity that has to continue the day after by contacting the people they met from local media outlets, to call them in advance, to visit the merchants with the show, in pictures of what Vericoin is becoming, and to starts seeding what World Vericoin Day 2015 is going to be.

Want to help with the pamphlet? Go ahead. You or anyone.  Why Vericoin and not Bitcoin or any other? This is, by far the most important answer we have to provide. Any other ideas? great! Lets do it. Lets start now, have it ready and rolling by tomorrow. Have the leaders starting to see the money and other forms of support coming. Get them psyched up, energized. And bringing in their own ideas. But the pamphlet, to have it translated first and printed second, the most important one now. Lets have it done by tomorrow. Devs, chime in.
2429  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 15, 2014, 03:26:21 AM
To Shinraven, ince I edited this before, reinstating it now:

I have looked  over a bunch of posts but I stop reading yours when you seemed to say a variation of what Scott said. I am DETERMINED to put this project to a test, ok? so there no possibility of it not going through, IF -that's the whole ball of wax- LEADERS come forward willing to do it. On the 30th. No ifs, no buts. And IF, the only other if, the community responds with their support and their donations.  Xosihc, for me this as solid as your MN fair. Only that, sorry, that's too little. too local. Nothing to be made of it promotion wise. I am not putting you down at all, I am keeping the perspective. You are too close but this is just an even of no repercussion whatsoever outside of MN. Anyway if you want to believe that that is the cause of the rebound, feel free. I don't care. I care that World Vericoin Day happens. And the rebound will be much bigger. If it doesn't happen, I believe it will revisit singles again.

No Shinraven. There's enough time. Plenty. Yes, funds are for giveaways, giveaways are to lure people to groups and leaders need to wear and give out Tshirts. Ideally they will paint the Vericoin Logo all over their faces too. That's it. I will provide -and if you or others contribute, much better- a copy for translation of what the pamphlet shoul look like and the content. We can PM but I much rather have everyone with things to bring in to just bring them in and get done with it. 15 days is an eternity in Crypto. More than enough time for everything. Only things needed are the WILL of the LEADERS and the support, financial and promotional, of the community.  Slogan will be provided also (contributions appreciated, of course).

 Xosihc, one thing you must have clear: Joel Bopsch, Wizrig, for me, is a Black Hand operative. It means he is the face of a group of anonymous ionvestors who pump and dump coins and that destroyed -in cahoots with their devs- Blackcoin with their blatanjt manipulation. I have already posted many times that I believe the Black Hand invested heavily in VRC with the same purpose, but when they realized that the devs here would not play ball, they just dumped and Bosch is kind of gone. THAT SAID, I do not believe that Joel's actions are negative in any way for Vericoin. As a matter of fact I'd very much appreciate if he picks up the flame and makes of Miami one of the best and brightest on World Vericoin Day. He can promote Vericoin and that is all this initiative seeks, nothing else. And I don't care if he receives orders from the Black Hand or not as long as he does something that favors Vericoin, ok? And he, more than anyone else, can. At the Miami Level. So his cooperation and support is more than welcome. He brings much more to the table than most others can.

Shinraven, I do not wish -you should know this by now- to make public either who I am nor my background. I have my motives. I am not a developer, I don't have to. And I won't. I know of what I speak, that should be obvious, but it is up to everyone to construct their own conceptions as they please. You included.

Your offer of cooperation is appreciated, deeply appreciated. Some specifics would help. I hope I have made clear what I envision as World Vericoin Day, already. But if you need further clarification, either publicly or by PM, please let me know.
2430  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 15, 2014, 03:14:06 AM
Come on guys, in less than 24 hours, we have created, out of thin air, over 1 MILLION DOLLARS. Simply with an idea. No one else has done anything at all. And the market is responding. TO THAT IDEA and the enthusiasm the community has shown for it, even though it has been far from  vri vocal so far, even though it has been promoted veri little. And we have doubled the price. In less than 24 hours. Will there be dumping? of course there will be. Especially if the enthusiasm somehow dims. It's only natural. Many people bought around 8, they will want to book at least some of those gains... but we are, once again, POSITIVELY alive. Nobody is thinking about the coin spiraling all the way to zero... and there's nothing new from the devs, not a single thing. Not even their support for the only idea that has galvanized the entire community so efficiently since the "rollback". Can anyone set up a wallet so donations can start pouring in for the World Vericoin Day project? We need ity. We need action. Those regional leader, the LEADERS everywhere, need to know that they have our enthusiastic support. Not just with words -also with words- but with what gets the ball rolling: Actual vericoins. Tweet, IRC, Reddit, Facebook , e-mail it. DO it.

Again, read my previous post where I asked you to PM me. In oder to run a campaign you need a plan. If you have ideas we can set up a time for a chat.

Before we can request others to " set up wallet and pour funds" the ideas and plan must be solid. Correct me if i am wrong unless i read wrong, what is this fund for? From my understanding if we are to do this, it would cost. Money for Shirts, flyers, buttons, stickers, prizes etc.

Again read my previous post 1 ) we need to to this 2) we will plan that.. etc.

" No one else has done anything at all. "  Undecided This is what i mean by you come off harsh at times. Saying that will clearly get under someone's skin. Many here have done plenty past few hours, and contributing ideas and are even setting some in motion. Please be mindful and respectful, you wont catch flies with vinegar.

One cool thing that could come from your shouting ideas, we can at some point create a promo / projects site. that way all the ongoing projects could be on that. Hence you might not feel like " Nothing is getting done"

Side note, what do you do for work...I would love to know how you work in a team hehe  Grin



I have looked  over a bunch of posts but I stop reading yours when you seemed to say a variation of what Scott said. I am DETERMINED to put this project to a test, ok? so there no possibility of it not going through, IF -that's the whole ball of wax- LEADERS come forward willing to do it. On the 30th. No ifs, no buts. And IF, the only other if, the community responds with their support and their donations.  Xosihc, for me this as solid as your MN fair. Only that, sorry, that's too little. too local. Nothing to be made of it promotion wise. I am not putting you down at all, I am keeping the perspective. You are too close but this is just an even of no repercussion whatsoever outside of MN. Anyway if you want to believe that that is the cause of the rebound, feel free. I don't care. I care that World Vericoin Day happens. And the rebound will be much bigger. If it doesn't happen, I believe it will revisit singles again.

No Shinraven. There's enough time. Plenty. Yes, funds are for giveaways, giveaways are to lure people to groups and leaders need to wear and give out Tshirts. Ideally they will paint the Vericoin Logo all over their faces too. That's it. I will provide -and if you or others contribute, much better- a copy for translation of what the pamphlet shoul look like and the content. We can PM but I much rather have everyone with things to bring in to just bring them in and get done with it. 15 days is an eternity in Crypto. More than enough time for everything. Only things needed are the WILL of the LEADERS and the support, financial and promotional, of the community.  Slogan will be provided also (contributions appreciated, of course).

 Xosihc, one thing you must have clear: Joel Bopsch, Wizrig, for me, is a Black Hand operative. It means he is the face of a group of anonymous ionvestors who pump and dump coins and that destroyed -in cahoots with their devs- Blackcoin with their blatanjt manipulation. I have already posted many times that I believe the Black Hand invested heavily in VRC with the same purpose, but when they realized that the devs here would not play ball, they just dumped and Bosch is kind of gone. THAT SAID, I do not believe that Joel's actions are negative in any way for Vericoin. As a matter of fact I'd very much appreciate if he picks up the flame and makes of Miami one of the best and brightest on World Vericoin Day. He can promote Vericoin and that is all this initiative seeks, nothing else. And I don't care if he receives orders from the Black Hand or not as long as he does something that favors Vericoin, ok? And he, more than anyone else, can. At the Miami Level. So his cooperation and support is more than welcome. He brings much more to the table than most others can.

Shinraven, I do not wish -you should know this by now- to make public either who I am nor my background. I have my motives. I am not a developer, I don't have to. And I won't. I know of what I speak, that should be obvious, but it is up to everyone to construct their own conceptions as they please. You included.

Your offer of cooperation is appreciated, deeply appreciated. Some specifics would help. I hope I have made clear what I envision as World Vericoin Day, already. But if you need further clarification, either publicly or by PM, please let me know.



I am a leader and as nice as you enthusiasm is ...... I do not follow.  Maybe you should become a leader and do something to promote a coin you want to believe in thats why I do it. I work day in and day out, I like having something to believe in. On top of the fact that I love the technology and work in the tech world lol

Leaders lead.
2431  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 15, 2014, 03:12:42 AM
i admire Xosihc for his efforts for the MN fair.. i'm very cautious tho of barabbas suddenly asking for donations for vericoin world day..

No donations will be received by me, haven't you read.

Now, since the devs through effects now SUPPORT the idea, I am quite confused here. If they support it, I am in 110%, I don't care who wants to take bragging rights. But please, set a wallet Doug so people can send donations. I will continue asking for much needed donations but once again, so it is very clear, the donations to the address that the devs set.

And yes, Doug the idea was, precisely, those regional leaders. The current ones -if they do exist- and above all the ones in the future.

I am very, very fucking tempted to send this thing to hell after the usual idiocy prevalent, but if you guys support it, once again, I will be on. No, the day before 9/11 is NOT a good idea. I believe the August 30 is doable and great. I don't care if  Xosihc wants to believe that whatever good that comes from it is because the MN fair event and all the bad that may ever happen to humanity is because of the World Vericoin Day. I dont give a fuck. But ideally it should be on the 30th.

No reason not to.
2432  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 15, 2014, 03:01:31 AM
As usual, things happen very quickly in Crypto. And since one of the devs has addressed the subject, finally, and there's the usual dance of the butterflies, as expected, the idea is thrown. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, do not send a single cent to that address I posted (I am, in fact, destroying that wallet), because my involvement, from this time on, is NIL. ZERO. World Vericon Day is NO more.

Thanks to those who supported and to the rest, good luck with your projects. Doug, I sincerely hope you do DO World Vericoin Day. It is a great idea.
I hope you have enough time to implement it.

 Xosihc, dude, good luck at the fair. In itself, sorry, it is meaningless, but, again, thank you for doing something. Unfortunately, you "don't get the big picture".
You will eventually.

I have to, once again, correct this. WORLD VERICOIN DAY is a go. Only if with the full support of the dev team.
2433  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 15, 2014, 02:53:36 AM
Come on guys, in less than 24 hours, we have created, out of thin air, over 1 MILLION DOLLARS. Simply with an idea. No one else has done anything at all. And the market is responding. TO THAT IDEA and the enthusiasm the community has shown for it, even though it has been far from  vri vocal so far, even though it has been promoted veri little. And we have doubled the price. In less than 24 hours. Will there be dumping? of course there will be. Especially if the enthusiasm somehow dims. It's only natural. Many people bought around 8, they will want to book at least some of those gains... but we are, once again, POSITIVELY alive. Nobody is thinking about the coin spiraling all the way to zero... and there's nothing new from the devs, not a single thing. Not even their support for the only idea that has galvanized the entire community so efficiently since the "rollback". Can anyone set up a wallet so donations can start pouring in for the World Vericoin Day project? We need ity. We need action. Those regional leader, the LEADERS everywhere, need to know that they have our enthusiastic support. Not just with words -also with words- but with what gets the ball rolling: Actual vericoins. Tweet, IRC, Reddit, Facebook , e-mail it. DO it.

Again, read my previous post where I asked you to PM me. In oder to run a campaign you need a plan. If you have ideas we can set up a time for a chat.

Before we can request others to " set up wallet and pour funds" the ideas and plan must be solid. Correct me if i am wrong unless i read wrong, what is this fund for? From my understanding if we are to do this, it would cost. Money for Shirts, flyers, buttons, stickers, prizes etc.

Again read my previous post 1 ) we need to to this 2) we will plan that.. etc.

" No one else has done anything at all. "  Undecided This is what i mean by you come off harsh at times. Saying that will clearly get under someone's skin. Many here have done plenty past few hours, and contributing ideas and are even setting some in motion. Please be mindful and respectful, you wont catch flies with vinegar.

One cool thing that could come from your shouting ideas, we can at some point create a promo / projects site. that way all the ongoing projects could be on that. Hence you might not feel like " Nothing is getting done"

Side note, what do you do for work...I would love to know how you work in a team hehe  Grin



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2434  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 15, 2014, 02:08:46 AM
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2435  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 15, 2014, 01:56:27 AM
WHERE'S MY VRC HATERS AT?!?!?!  Grin Grin Grin Grin

Not yet time for me to say "I told ya so" yet, but believe me, I am preparing my speech.

Man, you just can't keep your trap shut... amazing, simply amazing... the entire VRC project may have just been saved by an idea, and idea divulged here not even 24 hours ago, that has made the coin to rebound 80% so far, and you, somehow, find that it is appropriate for you to say "I told you so"Huh

No wonder this thing was on the way to Palookaville with people like you somehow being a representation...

Please just shut up, ok? Completely.

Devs? Still not indicated clearly by the market and the community that they want your endorsement (enthusiastic, please) of this idea, World Vericon Day? Or you just want to keep silent in spite of the evident response? I was expecting you already inundating the forum and twitter with ideas as the important bullet points you believe they must be handed out in the pamphlets and NOTHING?Huh?? What is it, you want the credit, or some bragging rights like this idiot?

DO NOT FUCK THE MOMENTUM AND THE PROJECTS. Remember where we were heading only 20 hours ago...

Barb, it wasn't your idea less than 24 hours ago... it was whack-a-bot! The next evolution in online trading and gaming.

 Yep, that must be it...

I hope it doesn't come to that but if the community doesn't show increasing support for World Vericoin Day, you and others I believe are going to have a certified notification of what did.

Don't matter. Just support and donate and think whatever you like, ok?
2436  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 15, 2014, 01:56:04 AM
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2437  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 15, 2014, 01:42:38 AM
Once again, Barabbas doesn't have an account on Twitter. Please, it is imperative that you guys that have make the crypto community fully aware that World Vericoin Day is a go. Many do not know it yet. Just post it, please.
2438  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 15, 2014, 01:39:15 AM
TO THE VERI LEADERS

To the REAL leaders, those that are being called "regional": This "World Vericoin Day" is conceived with you in mind. I can carry it myself... but as the PINK devs will tell you, I charge for it. Significant money. Call me old fashioned, but I believe in people being adequately compensated when they work, so when I proposed it to them, it came with a bill attached. Now, since the situation here was quite desperate, nobody seemed to be doing nothing, and I continued seeing the huge potential Vericoin has, I decided to propose World Vericoin Day using the resources the project already has: YOU. And the strong, generous, proactive community. That's what's behind the proposal. And it all depends on you, since the three mousekeeteers apparently want to do nothing, keep doing nothing. No disrespect, but I am sorry, their enthusiastic support is needed and DEMANDED. By the community and the market that has spoken clearly as to what it thinks of the project.

Now, the hard work will be yours. You have to hurry up, improvise, galvanize friends and family. With very little time and very limited resources. But I know you, as LEADERS, will excel and will make a day for the ages, a historic event never before attempted in crypto. A before and after. A new standard. EVERYONE will be aware of crypto and Vericoin after this. We will promote the pictures and videos that you upload to an extent where people will have no option but feel Vericoin is as familiar as Coca-Cola. And the price of VRC will explode, consequently. There you will have your well deserved payment.

There are some that have voiced worries about this being "too short notice". It is. Think about it this way: Next year's World Vericoin Day will have 365 days to get ready. But this year, the one that counts, the one that we either make a name for ourselves, and a market or there will not be another one, we have only 15 days. MORE THAN ENOUGH. For what? Just get whatever you can, whether donations have covered it or not -donation will keep on coming long after the 30th- and go out there with your friends, as many as you can, with your family, as many as you can, and make an even in the most representative and iconic part of your city. Do what you can. Give away paper wallets, pamphlets (cheap printing, make a couple of thousand or more), a few t-shirts... it isn't that expensive. AND CAN BE DONE. Raffle it to the groups that you gather. Make it attractive, make it entertaining, make it fun... want some suggestions? Paint Vericoin logo in your faces, along with the T-shirts, shout in Hyde Park along with the preachers... whatever is needed. Just make a spectacle of it, a nice one. You are GIVING stuff to people and are making them part of a club that they want and need to be part of. You can do it, I am quite sure. Do your best. Just DO it.

You are the leaders. Vericoin will go where you take it with your efforts, your support, your enthusiasm and the work that you need to continue every day after World Vericoin Day
 
Yesterday, we were under 8k when this project was proposed; Now we are pushing 16k. Do you think the investment community believe you can deliver, even though you only have 15 days to do it?

So do I. Enthusiastically.


2439  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 15, 2014, 01:18:47 AM

Now, I REMAIN, exceptionally critical of this children playing dev in their spare time



Which coins have adult, full-time devs?   I can think of a couple, but not beyond that....



I did not say there were many, I just stated a reality here. Are you looking for an argument? Because we need support and contributions. And action, not absurd arguments without any purpose.
2440  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 15, 2014, 01:10:25 AM
wat wait i though vericoin is shit and has no actual development the devs are not suited for the crypto currency and [insert barabbas]

why is vericoin @14 k from 7 k now.......  i just dumped my 300 k vericoins....
barabass i trusted your comments... and monkeys too  Cry

my trust is lost, after buying on the top and selling at the bottom  Roll Eyes

You can trust my comments because they will be ALWAYS the truth -as I see it, of course-. I have been, and stated so, a staunch supporter of this project from the get go. I remain. Even taking things into my own hands. But that doesn't mean I am not a critical thinker and I don't see reality. I do. Crystal clear. And this coin went to under 7k -and probably was on the way to total doom-, among other things, because the devs here were (are) doing NOTHING... oh I know they are "working" on some things, secret of course... One of them is so secret that it appears to be a blatant copy of something already implemented by PINK, by the way. Desperately, they announced the upcoming announcement of some "secret weapon" -that I guarantee you is going to be a disappointment-. So yes, I am being very critic of the actions -and, especially, non-actions- of the dev team. But that doesn't mean I don't continue seeing the potential. Trust me or don't I do not care. I post it like it is. You didn't ask me if I was going to do something about it, did you? If you would have asked I would have told you that I was about to propose an experiment that couldn't possible hurt since we were in dire situation, on the verge, again, of the precipice. Instead, you acted on your own but now somehow you pretend you were prompted by my posting and those of others.

Sorry pal, that's just pathetic, ok?

Now, I REMAIN, exceptionally critical of this children playing dev in their spare time and convinced they are wiser than anyone in crypto and outside of crypto. They continue havind done NOTHING, not even supporting a project that obviously has got the community galvanized and the investor hot on VRC again. If they do not, would it be any wonder if some in the community decide to dump and move to more receptive, proactive projects? It is way too much to ask of the community, even of one as amazing and strong at Vericoin's, that they alone save the coin while the devs spend time at leisure, do nothing and promise great things that somehow never materialize.

From the enthusiasm to the despair is a very, very short trip. Their support -since nothing else of significance seems to be coming and, if it does, it will be much, much better-, is absolutely needed to take this rebound to the 30-40k level. It isn't a Pump in the traditional sense. Although there will be some dumping, of course, at some point. Who cares? This is BRANDING the product. Signal a direction. Clean crypto. The good guys. Worldwide action. Worldwide interest... World Vericon Day is only the start. The event. The real work come afterwards. And it is required that it is sustained, the contacts maintained and exploited -in media-, the conversations translated into actions. We will be creating awareness way beyond any other cryptocurrency has ever done before. And we need to follow up. big time.

Oh and, by the way, while all the support and awareness in social networks and everywhere is much needed, natural and promoted, from Youtube to Twitter to this forums, this is a POUND THE PAVEMENT project. The net references are just that, references. We are going top the people in the street. With a target: at least 1 in 5 will be intereste3d in digital currencies; at least 1 in 10 will become a Vericoiner. Lets do it, lets carry the experiment and let's see where it takes us. And one year from today, lets evaluate and decide what we could have done better. If the devs work with the community, I guarantee you that we will be much, much higher, exponentially even, than we are today.

Once again, trust me or don't it is up to you. I never lie and will never lie, you can trust that. But what you actually do reading me (your perception of me), and others, is your sole responsibility.
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