Bobsurplus has now appeared in BAY's thread...

That explains so many things...

Fortunately for them, most people just got out of Dodge.

That's because I am NOT supportive of Storj. Not yet. Hence my questioning. But I did not think that not being a pom-pom cheerleader of your project (just yet) would be interpreted as being negative. I guess I was mistaken and exercising critical thinking, of course, is not only not considered helpful but even negative. Wow.

Given such circumstances, by all means go ahead and cater to your pom-poms. I definitely will not be interested in your project any longer.

Where's the "old-guard"? The colinfx, thomas-s, mckie....so many? none of them seem to be around anymore... the rats jumped ship? How about morituri, the face of the Black Hand? Interesting to see what 6 months  have done... other than fulfilling my forecast, of course...

Is it just you, Josh, and Pavel that are left?

Well, this here is where the sublime meets the ridiculous... which is the nice way to say that you are full of crap. Sorry.

I am not being negative at all, as a matter of fact I am trying, quite hard, to be positive. Statements such as the above will NOT help though. Avoiding my very specific question, will have the opposite effect, of course. Once again: What organizations? and why organizations will have access to thgose "bad hashes" but no individual?

Will you duck those again and come up with another snotty, totally inappropriate remark?

As long as we don't know who these guys are and that the thread is non-moderated, it is simply a waste of time.

No one will support you.

Even more confusing: So an organization could know of "bad file hashes" but an individual or individuals couldn't? What organization, a legal one, such as Law enforcement or just Human Rights and the like?

I HAVE read the blog post, of course...

This looks like a copy/paste of identical posts... with quite a few months of difference.

You are making a pathetic spectacle of yourself... again, BK.

I believe you are the one spreading FUD and nonsense in your machine-gun-like posting to defend the indefensible. NAUT is a project promoted and started by BK and he has the ethical responsibility of keeping those who he led into putting their money behind his project adequately and amply informed, if not consulted on important decision making. He's the dev and when some people has lost 95% and more of their investment in his coin, sure as hell he owes them explanations and ideas regarding what he plans on doing going forward if not openly ask the community what they think he should be doing.

The law has not caught up with crypto yet, but will soon and what now is simply ETHICAL, will then be a legal obligation just like it is already in teh world BK populates.

Your ass-kissing, by the way, is simply embarrassing and quite offensive for those holding significant bags in NAUT.

This attempt is just very confusing for the average "farmer": "shards"?, "gray lists"? How do you see what it is in your hard drive if it is encrypted? If you can see it, the whole anonymity (decentralized) purpose is lost, so how are those "gray lists" created and by who?

I must be quite dense for I don't see how you can get "the best of both worlds"by only allowing legal content in your hard drive if, by definition, you don't know -nobody does- what it is that you are storing...

Vericoin is the coin of the future... at least until I am out of it with 15-20% profit.

Great devs, great radio... Best thing since sliced bread.

To da moon!!!!

There are no newbies "falling" for it; it's a bunch of sock puppets for the most part and a very, very few real "newbies".

By now everyone and his aunt knows the details of the scam, including the Project Manager, Zimbeck. The bubble is burst and it's only a matter of a few months before this scam project becomes just another sad memory. No one will make any money, not even the scammers. And Zimbeck will pay with his credibility and future for those 100BTC he got... the biblical "30 coins", so to speak, for leading a few not so innocent people into the obvious scam.

While IE's quickly "getting it", unfortunately, you never will.

Except that I HAVE TOLD YOU already multiple times: Blackcoin, Libertycoin, Pinkcoin, Vericoin, Pesacoin,
Nautiluscoin... ALL of them have saved people money.

Now you have BitBay. REMEMBER that I told you so from the get go.

Or not.

I believe I have answered that question many times to you and others: It's called BTC. I deeply recommend it.

Thank you for volunteering more information than needed, really. So you got 150 BTC altogether, 50 of which are in BAY. Like I said, it was not needed -in such detail- but thanks anyway. While it says a lot about your personal transparency regarding compensation, it is still not official -although duly noticed by most of the people- that you are not the lead developer of BAY, just a coder doing a job and, when done, ready to go on your way. You would have your reasons to not set that particular record straight, but, once more, as such, you are aiding and abetting, for your personal profit, a scam.

Don't worry about my negativity... I am only negative on what deserves to be negative about. There are only a handful of coins I am negative about (currently four) and even less than I am denouncing as the scams they are, including, obviously, BAY. I am negative in the entire ALT spectrum because scams like BAY have dried out any and all investment, so innovation simply won't happen outside of one or two already well funded projects (Ethereum), but mostly because the profile of the altcoin community is hideous from any stand point and, financially-wise, non-existent. But that is, in fact, another subject to which I have posted amply already.

I believe you could teach me a few chess moves and maybe some python... maybe. Anything else, sorry but no. And the "pegging" or whichever other name you use for it, simply will not happen, nor will the stabilization in ANY altcoin.

In alts -as opposed to real life-, there isn't a matter of "half empty/half full glasses": We KNOW exactly how empty or how full the glasses are. In the case of BAY, we know -yes, you included-, it is a scam and it is being perpetrated the exact way that I have told you and everyone else it is being perpetrated. It isn't a question of having doubts, or opinions. It has been done many times before and this one is not particularly intelligent, to boot.

As for dd smart contracts and bit Halo, it isn't me, it's the entire community that has rendered it's verdict long ago. Not a matter of opinions. There's no real-world use for them, none of any significance and that will not be changed by my opinion or opposed opinions of whomever; if it were to be changed it would be by people actually using it. There aren't any. And there will not be any. Other than that it has even been reining in all of Los Angeles for 3 days -nothing better or more "half full", except the incredibly gorgeous day that we are having afterwards with clean air and visibility for miles. I'm also imbued already with the full Christsmas spirit, everyone is wonderful and cops haven't even killed any new negroes in the past few hours. What more can you ask for as "half ful" glasses go? Still, BAY is a scam. AND YOU AND ME BOTH KNOW IT.

Just to clarify things for you, I did not lose any money on BC. As a matter of fact, since I detected the obvious scam and forecast all along what the price would do, I was able to get out with a profit a long time ago. I haven't followed their "dancing of the threads" either, since I had no other interest than prevent innocents from being scammed and that was achieved, to the limit of my ability, many months ago. I understand there have been changes at the top and now Josh is boss (and, apparently, flowers-pants boy and the Don-ge, as well as the Black Hand and his front man are out). If that is the case, Pavel is a great dev and Josh, I believe, is a good guy --even though he put up, I assume for profit, with the amazing scam perpetrated by the Black Hand with the consent and cooperation of the entire team, Josh included. Still, BC has not found any real world use for the coin -in any significant way- and, at this stage, it is obvious that it won't in the future even though, IF the clean up is real, it can be one of the best out there... without HALO, that is, that brings nothing to the table.

By all means go and make that software whose ONLY purpose is to get 33% of funds released tomorrow and the remaining 33% as soon as you can possible come up with some semblance of an exchange (take another look at NEXT or even Unbreakable for they have already working platforms, have had for months, that's how innovative that software is). And believe me, that's it. For you and for BAY. Meanwhile, at roughly 20 BTC per day on  average, your Chinese guy is going to find it quite hard to even recoup the 150BTC that he has paid you, yso he will not make any money -no one will- and you would have sold your reputation for a very small price, while inflicting BC the potentially final coup the grace.

The time to come out of it in any way clean, is almost up. But you have made your decision, so harakiri it is. Pity.

You might have jumped the gun just a tiny bit there pardner...

And just to clarify that the people behind BitBay are liars, here's the proof from the horse's (David Zimbeck) mouth: "So as far as them putting my name to this. If you read the OP on BCT, they put me as lead dev before I had a chance to announce the news to BC. I was upset since the gossip spread so fast I didnt even have time to talk on my own behalf and so I had them change the post to say i was ONLY a project manager."

You can see that in their most recent post of the screenshot of the wallet, they still claim Zimbeck is the "lead developer".

In spite of the quoted words, Zimbeck himself is far from out of the waters as perpetrator or co-conspirator or aid and abettor of this scam since everyone still believes that he is in fact the lead developer and, in spite of my insistence, he still hasn't come clean in their official thread setting the record straight. He claims to have been paid in BTC for specific independent contractor commitment but has not denied that he may have also been paid in BAY in a very significant amount... which will explain his reluctance to distant himself from what he recognizes as a potential scam based on common sense: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=880138.0

Draw your own conclusions.

Perhaps to try and preserve what was once a nest of dynamic investment in innovation before the crooks came and rampaged it with their scams?

Just a thought...

I believe Zimbeck is not being truthful when stating his commitment to BitBAY, otherwise why would he not come out and clear his name and involvement completely? He may be in for a very significant amount of BAY as part of his compensation, otherwise it just doesn't make any sense at all for, by now, he KNOWS the details of the scam, whether he can prove it or not, so being ambiguous about it is trying to keep two doors open, in case worst case scenario materializes, when the actual reality is that he will shut them closed both and he will be the target of all the wrath when the rest of the shit hits the fan.

But BAY is only one problem. Zimbeck has Halo, which is ANOTHER problem for, realistically, it has no value nor purpose. The double deposit idea is simply laughable and the rest of the use-cases, in real life, are not just minimal but fully avoidable. And, tech-wise, Halo is to Ethereum -and others- what a park hacker is to Koby Bryant.

As for the alts user base, the demographics are a bit wider than that but I wanted to paint a clear picture so people understand why there's no progress in adoption. It's like trying to sell bikinis in the North Pole.