I think 10,000 satoshi per BRIT is very realistic in future  Wow. And they don't have you locked down somewhere and under constant medical watch? Amazing indeed... |
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I have kept you guys informed as to all the information in which I have been given, there is no more information to be given. When there is I share it, every time, every bit of news I get, or catch wind of, I have brought forth here. If you guys don't want to listen or read up then that's on you. It is not my responsibility to teach you how to scroll your browser above the most recent post, or click the link that takes you to the last page(s). And again a new dev has been selected. (I believe this is post number 4 in which I have stated this, of course it could be more). https://twitter.com/Nautiluscoin/status/532549920285556737 <-- third time this has been linked to my knowledge. And if you'd like I can copy out of my personal messages here from jyap to again post that he said he was working on it. It will be a repost though. And that would probably the cause of thios sell off... "jyap", really? Is it the best BK can do? Julian ("jyap") is working, as far as I know, in his own coin, jumbucks or whatever it's name is, while picking up the crumbs left by the totally discredited Dan Metcalf and collecting money for "code reviews" that, apparently, is a very good way of making quick money these days. Julian was involved with the code review of PINK several months ago and participated in a behind the scenes deal with PINK's developers -where they sold him one million coins, supposedly at market prices-. This is obviously ok with both Julian and those developers who have unloaded many millions of coins off-market, which is amazing to me because it cannot be less ethic even by desiugn... nore more damaging for the coin. The relationship with PINK continues and Jumbucks just announces his agreement with the PINK devs to offer mining for Pink in the Jumbucks multi mine... for a price, of course, roughly the times the fees any other mining operation charges. Obviously this is quite alright with not just PINK's devs, but also Mr "jyap", BK's new developer. If "jyap" follows his modus operandi from the past, he would have engineered a behind the scenes, off-market deal with BK by which BK would have unloaded a considerable amount of NAUT at "favorable prices", if not free altogether, in exchange for those services. No transparency whatsoever. And still some post that this is NOT BK's coin, yes the one he doesn't make a single post no matter how deep the price crisis. That one. So now some of us have at least some ideas as to why the coin went all the way down to 5000 and change. Not much reason to celebrate, is there? I don't care what deal was cut as long as dynamic PoS is delivered in a timely fashion. People don't work for free. Give him a chance. If you don't like it sell. Really is that easy. Walk away, it will do you a world of good for your mental health. Hey "Junior", when someone post this about NAUT ( "If you buy and hold you have a descent chance of becoming a multi-millionaire.") I'd say it is quite evident he is in dire need of rather urgent mental medical attention.... but thank you for the advice, anyway. |
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But the idea itself is amazing , it's why i invested , this isn't just a coin for a simple quick deposit , this is a crypto currency that has been made specifically for the most popular use that crypto currency currently has, with a very expensive and well made online casino. The chance of longevity and an opportunity to have a completely 100% passive income of doing nothing and sitting on your ass with your wallet open to earn money every day. for years and years to come. It has life long earning potential .
Yes. The idea of Bergstake is so powerful for a couple of reasons. The first is the one mentioned above. The second is they created a "sticky" community. Even if everyone that invested in the ICO sells their coins, we have the Bergstake forever. As long as Breakoutgaming is ongoing, everyone of us will forever have an interest in this project. None of us will ever say, "I dumped my coins so I have no interest anymore, good luck bagholders  ". Similar to what Bitshares did with Angelshares (Best crypto investment I made so far), I have an interest in Bitshares and Breakoutgaming for life now. I love projects that let me lock up my interest for the long-term because 5-10 years out is when we are going to see the real returns. This is why I wouldn't mind another 4 or 5 day coin sale after some gaming demo releases, not only to raise more funds, but to give more people the chance to buy Genesis BRO + Bergstake, thus growing this "sticky" community. As usual, the greedy, nutcases, running amok...
Question: How is this entire project now, one day before the ICO closes, any closer to actually happen than a month ago? Not even half the minimum required to launch has been collected... A re-sale, with nothing new (a working ready-for-testing platform) on the table, at the current or even higher price? You have got to be kidding... I mean, you can be deluded as much as you want to be but everyone that ever wanted to know about this project already does. Everyone with actual money to invest, that is. And, unless there are significant changes (like a working, ready-for-testing platform), no one will put a single cent more on this project. Not a 3000/1btc, not at 6600/1btc. Not at ANY price.
Once again, my suggestion: Do it right. Start from scratch again... but with a product (a working, ready-for-testing platform) to back all the claims of the project. Forget about the peculiar concept of "fair" and start thinking "business". Then you will have something that people will invest in. I know I will. Many others too. And if some of the "children" are not happy because they believe it is "unfair", just refund their money and that will make it as fair as it can be. Very sim-ple... if you have a product to sell. Otherwise, you are selling, on a very fancy way, a nice lot of front beach property in Arizona.
That's called "Venture Risk". When Wall Street Journal reporter asked Mr. Liew, of Lightspeed VC firm if it’s risky to put money into LedgerX's pre-launch whose business model is centered on getting government approval in a sector that has gotten none. Mr. Liew replied: “It’s venture risk,” . “It’s possible that it doesn’t work out, but you find the people who have the best possible chance to do it."You already know this project has much better chances of reaching top MarketCap spots than any other project out there, that's why you're sticking around. Fronting a Poker face may do you well when playing BreakoutGames, but not when offering low balling suggestions to these Devs though. As usual. you are just blinded by your own greed. Let's make it clear for others -since you are out of reach completely-" I have been here since day one, supporting this idea that I consider is great, launched at the worst possible time and without anything solid (a working platform) that can support it. Without that my support remains just testimonial for I won't invest in beach property in Arizona. Not many, at this point in the crypto game -as obviated by the results- do. Contrary to your extremely short thinking capability, EVEN with a decent test-ready platform, the success of the coin launch is far from guaranteed, mostly due to the extreme scarcity of available funds in crypto at the moment. That out of the way, I made a suggestion because this, in case you still refuse to see it, is a train wreck, a project that will NOT happen. There's no "private sale" possible. That is simply an euphemism for the BG team to keep the 8.3 million coins + bergstake and paying themselves for it, an INSTAMINE of gigantic proportions, you get that? And no matter where you put it of what you show in lieu of a working platform, and even if you do show one, No one is going to pay more than double the price it was given to the first investors, deal with that reality because it is crashing hard upon you. What I suggested is a potential solution that I am convinced will provide the minimal result required and maybe even more than that. Doing things right instead of this mess. You don't offer any real alternative and what you pretend to pass for an alternative -which would require the approval of BTER, not an easy feat by any means-, will materialize very quickly in another terrible failure for, again, no one is going to pay for this -in significant amounts-- more than double what others did. But I may be wrong and you may be right, I just think no one is going to be crazy enough or capable even to test your "idea" while mine is easily done and can be tested in one week's time... if the platform is ready. I "stick around" a lot of coins, some I am invested in some I am not. Currently as I have stated many times, I only have a testimonial interest in BRO. And I would like for it to be successful for, I repeat, I believe it is a great idea. But, in the current state, it simply won't. And it won't either if they were to try your outrageous approach, in my opinion, of course. Oh and in case you keep on forgetting, a LOT of NOTHING is just as much as NOTHING of NOTHING. Take a moment or two to digest that. You're a funny guy Barabbas... First you spread FUD and call out BRO team for zero transparency, most likely to scare people from obtaining more BRO in the beginning of the ICO: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=808648.msg9105589#msg9105589Then once the ICO price started to rise and leave you behind, you want BRO team to restart the ICO so you can buy more coins at the absolute best rate possible. I hate to break it to you, but as Blue_Wave & others said, it's too late to restart the ICO now; most investors will simply walk away. Furthermore, your "idea" of issuing refunds is far from being "easily done" since many investors don't have access to BTC addresses where they sent their BTC from (ie. funds sent from BTC wallets on exchanges) Running a coin sale is obviously not MY idea, BRO team already stated that to raise more funds to reach 700 btc & distribute more Genesis BRO + Bergstake: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT:
Hello Breakout Community. The previous announcement post was for discussion of proposed ideas. Breakout Coin Team will implement the following changes after listening to feedback from the community.
A. Elimination of the PoW stage and the 7 million coins that would cause dilution of the market over a two yr period.
B. Bergstake to begin from day one, allowing Bergstake owners ability to earn block rewards from day one.
C. Increasing the pool of BRO coins in the "coin sale" from 5.5 million to 10 million.
D. Approx 700 btc goal for initial phase
E. If the total amount of btc raised falls short of the proposed 700 btc amount, we will raise the remaining amount through a "private" sale.
F. Once the 700 btc criteria is met, the "coin sale" will end.
G. Remaining coins will be sold at a later date to be announced by Breakout Coin on this forum.
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I just proposed that they should first release game demos to attract more PR & build more investor confidence, before launching a 5 day coin Sale, preferably hosted by an exchange like BTER or BITTREX, to attract more investors. (Eventhough I trust my funds with BRO team, much more than with those exchanges) First of all I am not just funny, I am brilliant! And if you catch me on pay-per-view, I am downright hilarious.... But that's besides the point: You got it all wrong, as usual. First, I never, ever, FUD. Nor lie. Ever. Second, I demand transparency from every coin I am interested in, not just BRO. And, since my handle is quite public and I host both THE WALL OF SHAME and THE WALL OF HONOR, I always post any conflicting interest. I know this kind of honesty is completely impossible to understand to you but it does exist. And I practice it. I leave the clumsy and pretty inefficient attempts nat manipulating to you and other greedy bastards like you blind like stones, alright? The second part of your post, I have been proposing the release of a testing platform since the start. Obviously none is available although one was promised it would be delivered long before this date. Without it I would have to assume than not even you would pretend that making any offer on any exchange would produce results any more positive than the paltry ones we have as of now. I might be wrong and you may actually be proposing such unbelievably absurd thing... for such is the nature of the individual. Apologies to others to be a bit snappy but you would understand it gets to a point where diplomacy simply takes a back seat. |
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I have kept you guys informed as to all the information in which I have been given, there is no more information to be given. When there is I share it, every time, every bit of news I get, or catch wind of, I have brought forth here. If you guys don't want to listen or read up then that's on you. It is not my responsibility to teach you how to scroll your browser above the most recent post, or click the link that takes you to the last page(s). And again a new dev has been selected. (I believe this is post number 4 in which I have stated this, of course it could be more). https://twitter.com/Nautiluscoin/status/532549920285556737 <-- third time this has been linked to my knowledge. And if you'd like I can copy out of my personal messages here from jyap to again post that he said he was working on it. It will be a repost though. And that would probably the cause of thios sell off... "jyap", really? Is it the best BK can do? Julian ("jyap") is working, as far as I know, in his own coin, jumbucks or whatever it's name is, while picking up the crumbs left by the totally discredited Dan Metcalf and collecting money for "code reviews" that, apparently, is a very good way of making quick money these days. Julian was involved with the code review of PINK several months ago and participated in a behind the scenes deal with PINK's developers -where they sold him one million coins, supposedly at market prices-. This is obviously ok with both Julian and those developers who have unloaded many millions of coins off-market, which is amazing to me because it cannot be less ethic even by desiugn... nore more damaging for the coin. The relationship with PINK continues and Jumbucks just announces his agreement with the PINK devs to offer mining for Pink in the Jumbucks multi mine... for a price, of course, roughly the times the fees any other mining operation charges. Obviously this is quite alright with not just PINK's devs, but also Mr "jyap", BK's new developer. If "jyap" follows his modus operandi from the past, he would have engineered a behind the scenes, off-market deal with BK by which BK would have unloaded a considerable amount of NAUT at "favorable prices", if not free altogether, in exchange for those services. No transparency whatsoever. And still some post that this is NOT BK's coin, yes the one he doesn't make a single post no matter how deep the price crisis. That one. So now some of us have at least some ideas as to why the coin went all the way down to 5000 and change. Not much reason to celebrate, is there? |
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But the idea itself is amazing , it's why i invested , this isn't just a coin for a simple quick deposit , this is a crypto currency that has been made specifically for the most popular use that crypto currency currently has, with a very expensive and well made online casino. The chance of longevity and an opportunity to have a completely 100% passive income of doing nothing and sitting on your ass with your wallet open to earn money every day. for years and years to come. It has life long earning potential .
Yes. The idea of Bergstake is so powerful for a couple of reasons. The first is the one mentioned above. The second is they created a "sticky" community. Even if everyone that invested in the ICO sells their coins, we have the Bergstake forever. As long as Breakoutgaming is ongoing, everyone of us will forever have an interest in this project. None of us will ever say, "I dumped my coins so I have no interest anymore, good luck bagholders ". Similar to what Bitshares did with Angelshares (Best crypto investment I made so far), I have an interest in Bitshares and Breakoutgaming for life now. I love projects that let me lock up my interest for the long-term because 5-10 years out is when we are going to see the real returns. This is why I wouldn't mind another 4 or 5 day coin sale after some gaming demo releases, not only to raise more funds, but to give more people the chance to buy Genesis BRO + Bergstake, thus growing this "sticky" community. As usual, the greedy, nutcases, running amok...
Question: How is this entire project now, one day before the ICO closes, any closer to actually happen than a month ago? Not even half the minimum required to launch has been collected... A re-sale, with nothing new (a working ready-for-testing platform) on the table, at the current or even higher price? You have got to be kidding... I mean, you can be deluded as much as you want to be but everyone that ever wanted to know about this project already does. Everyone with actual money to invest, that is. And, unless there are significant changes (like a working, ready-for-testing platform), no one will put a single cent more on this project. Not a 3000/1btc, not at 6600/1btc. Not at ANY price.
Once again, my suggestion: Do it right. Start from scratch again... but with a product (a working, ready-for-testing platform) to back all the claims of the project. Forget about the peculiar concept of "fair" and start thinking "business". Then you will have something that people will invest in. I know I will. Many others too. And if some of the "children" are not happy because they believe it is "unfair", just refund their money and that will make it as fair as it can be. Very sim-ple... if you have a product to sell. Otherwise, you are selling, on a very fancy way, a nice lot of front beach property in Arizona.
That's called "Venture Risk". When Wall Street Journal reporter asked Mr. Liew, of Lightspeed VC firm if it’s risky to put money into LedgerX's pre-launch whose business model is centered on getting government approval in a sector that has gotten none. Mr. Liew replied: “It’s venture risk,” . “It’s possible that it doesn’t work out, but you find the people who have the best possible chance to do it."You already know this project has much better chances of reaching top MarketCap spots than any other project out there, that's why you're sticking around. Fronting a Poker face may do you well when playing BreakoutGames, but not when offering low balling suggestions to these Devs though. As usual. you are just blinded by your own greed. Let's make it clear for others -since you are out of reach completely-" I have been here since day one, supporting this idea that I consider is great, launched at the worst possible time and without anything solid (a working platform) that can support it. Without that my support remains just testimonial for I won't invest in beach property in Arizona. Not many, at this point in the crypto game -as obviated by the results- do. Contrary to your extremely short thinking capability, EVEN with a decent test-ready platform, the success of the coin launch is far from guaranteed, mostly due to the extreme scarcity of available funds in crypto at the moment. That out of the way, I made a suggestion because this, in case you still refuse to see it, is a train wreck, a project that will NOT happen. There's no "private sale" possible. That is simply an euphemism for the BG team to keep the 8.3 million coins + bergstake and paying themselves for it, an INSTAMINE of gigantic proportions, you get that? And no matter where you put it of what you show in lieu of a working platform, and even if you do show one, No one is going to pay more than double the price it was given to the first investors, deal with that reality because it is crashing hard upon you. What I suggested is a potential solution that I am convinced will provide the minimal result required and maybe even more than that. Doing things right instead of this mess. You don't offer any real alternative and what you pretend to pass for an alternative -which would require the approval of BTER, not an easy feat by any means-, will materialize very quickly in another terrible failure for, again, no one is going to pay for this -in significant amounts-- more than double what others did. But I may be wrong and you may be right, I just think no one is going to be crazy enough or capable even to test your "idea" while mine is easily done and can be tested in one week's time... if the platform is ready. I "stick around" a lot of coins, some I am invested in some I am not. Currently as I have stated many times, I only have a testimonial interest in BRO. And I would like for it to be successful for, I repeat, I believe it is a great idea. But, in the current state, it simply won't. And it won't either if they were to try your outrageous approach, in my opinion, of course. Oh and in case you keep on forgetting, a LOT of NOTHING is just as much as NOTHING of NOTHING. Take a moment or two to digest that. |
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I begin thinking you are playing the fool here, barrabas... Only if you use a single computer. You need those amounts for EACH computer you mine in. So not altogether wrong, am I? (purple) Well probably Bittrex used those 14 000 coins to mine 1K BYC on 24 powerfull PCs... Yeah, I think that makes sense  Not as much sense as moving around hundreds of thousands of coins just to confuse "some" people (only those unable to click twice on the explorer, of course), I have to admit, but some sense nevertheless. Otherwise the other explanation was what? I understand all it takes for destroying any amount of coins is a click of the mouse, right? I (and the majority i assume) dont give a f**k whether Bittrex moves the coins or keps them in one wallet if only they won't get stolen. But if you want to accuse Bittrex in being scamers please don't hesitate! I am accusing no one of anything, I'm just stating facts. And searching for logical answers, nothing more. |
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I begin thinking you are playing the fool here, barrabas... Only if you use a single computer. You need those amounts for EACH computer you mine in. So not altogether wrong, am I? (purple) Well probably Bittrex used those 14 000 coins to mine 1K BYC on 24 powerfull PCs... Yeah, I think that makes sense Not as much sense as moving around hundreds of thousands of coins just to confuse "some" people (only those unable to click twice on the explorer, of course), I have to admit, but some sense nevertheless. Otherwise the other explanation was what? I understand all it takes for destroying any amount of coins is a click of the mouse, right? |
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Perhaps that the 159 had grown to the 191 by the time it was moved...
LOL. If I move my 100BYC From wallet A to B, and then from B to C, that doesn’t prove that I’ve got 200BYC because Block explorer shows 2 transactions 100BYC each… The other thing is, yes, obviously, since no other wallet had even 10% of such amounts, it HAD to be the Bittrex wallet by defect. Question is, why does the Bittrex wallet move the coins at all? and why in such amounts? Security reasons? To confuse some people  BYC is POM which is a modified POS. It means the more coins you have the more you mine, obviously. Not to mention uninterrupted by the captchas, since there's a "fix" for that. Wrong again!
I can mine the same amount with 25 coins on the wallet and 600 coins. Is that your answer? Really? Wow! (red) Only if you use a single computer. You need those amounts for EACH computer you mine in. So not altogether wrong, am I? (purple) |
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As usual, the greedy, nutcases, running amok...
Question: How is this entire project now, one day before the ICO closes, any closer to actually happen than a month ago? Not even half the minimum required to launch has been collected... A re-sale, with nothing new (a working ready-for-testing platform) on the table, at the current or even higher price? You have got to be kidding... I mean, you can be deluded as much as you want to be but everyone that ever wanted to know about this project already does. Everyone with actual money to invest, that is. And, unless there are significant changes (like a working, ready-for-testing platform), no one will put a single cent more on this project. Not a 300/1btc, not at 6600/1btc. Not at ANY price.
Once again, my suggestion: Do it right. Start from scratch again... but with a product (a working, ready-for-testing platform) to back all the claims of the project. Forget about the peculiar concept of "fair" and start thinking "business". Then you will have something that people will invest in. I know I will. Many others too. And if some of the "children" are not happy because they believe it is "unfair", just refund their money and that will make it as fair as it can be. Very sim-ple... if you have a product to sell. Otherwise, you are selling, on a very fancy way, a nice lot of front beach property in Arizona.
I was wrong, time to start using XSTerminate to delete this shit. Sick of coming to this thread and reading the constant rambling of some dumbass who thinks he's a crypto God and knows better than everyone else. THIS is exactly what I was hoping the OP would prevent in this thread yet I'm not seeing much of a dev presence at this point. I take it you don't like my suggestion much... I'd love to hear yours, since this will be a no go under the present circumstances. |
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everyone yelling scam scam meanwhile up 100% lol
lol? really? Have you checked the price at the time of your posting? Day's young stil... FACT is there are, as I have posted before, already 65,000 coins out there for which the owners have paid ZERO, so any price they can get will be 100% profit (minus electricity charges, if you want to be pickety picky about it-. That is almost 1/3 of all coins outstanding, ok? In other words, you are sitting on a barrel full of dynamite. And price will eventually reflect that. |
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Now, the "mess" seems to continue in the mining of the coin: It is supposed to mine 1BYC per block, as advertised. Well, it doesn't. There are MANY block that mine more than 1 BYC. Way more, in fact. Some a lot more than 1 BYC.
I have been looking sporadically since I just have a passing interest in the coin, but I have seen how "irregular" the mining is even now that it is supposed to be "stabilized". Have you check blocks #s 68138, 68154, 68179, 68196 and 68206, for instance. Well do. And you will discover that, quite frequently actually, some people are mining blocks that are way more profitable than the ones you are mining at 1BYC per block.
Are you f***ing joking!! Those are the coins sent from one addresss to another! They are added to the transaction of mined block (1BYC). Examine more carefully in the block explorer. You can generate such "irregular" blocks yourself simly by sending xx coins from one wallet to another. Either you were sleepy when writing that post or just a weak FUD attempt OK, that seems simple enough an explanation... except that there are not enough coins, ANYWHERE, to "explain away" such a thing. Block # 68900 is 111,942 and change BYC. NO ONE but Bittrex has even a 10% of that amount. Block # 69838 is almost 93,000 BYC... Like I said, there's probably a very simply, innocent explanation to this, but you haven't come even close to provide it. I can though -I believe- explain why 12 hours ago the outstanding number of BYC was at 226K count and now it stands at less than 215K. Irregular, as it is, it seems to be due to the destroying of the coins that were tendered and refunded by Bittrex. Why that happens so long after the transactions took place, simply eludes me. I know that those coins have been mining a significant amount since they were tendered though... Shit wherever you look. All the time. From all sides and parties. Nauseating... Well it took me 3 minutes of simple investigation to track where those coins come from - all from the 159k Bittrex wallet. The "weird" thing is that after every withdrawal from that wallet the remaining amount moves to the other address. So here is your innocent explanation. On #2 I agree that the total amount of coins reduced due to the burning of ~14k BYC sold during the buyback. Why this was reflected in some time - well the block explorer was not updated in time, that's it. I know that those coins have been mining a significant amount since they were tendered though... Don't know what you mean by that - BYC is not the PoS coin. And if you mean that they were used laying in the wallets and helping to mine uninterruptedly, than look at the difficulty and check if they were able to mine a large a mount of coins. So if you look closely there is not so much shit around here... I still don't understand how you can move 191,000 coins from a 159,000 wallet but I am pretty sure there's an explanation for that too. Perhaps that the 159 had grown to the 191 by the time it was moved... The other thing is, yes, obviously, since no other wallet had even 10% of such amounts, it HAD to be the Bittrex wallet by defect. Question is, why does the Bittrex wallet move the coins at all? and why in such amounts? Security reasons? BYC is POM which is a modified POS. It means the more coins you have the more you mine, obviously. Not to mention uninterrupted by the captchas, since there's a "fix" for that. |
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As usual, the greedy, nutcases, running amok...
Question: How is this entire project now, one day before the ICO closes, any closer to actually happen than a month ago? Not even half the minimum required to launch has been collected... A re-sale, with nothing new (a working ready-for-testing platform) on the table, at the current or even higher price? You have got to be kidding... I mean, you can be deluded as much as you want to be but everyone that ever wanted to know about this project already does. Everyone with actual money to invest, that is. And, unless there are significant changes (like a working, ready-for-testing platform), no one will put a single cent more on this project. Not a 3000/1btc, not at 6600/1btc. Not at ANY price.
Once again, my suggestion: Do it right. Start from scratch again... but with a product (a working, ready-for-testing platform) to back all the claims of the project. Forget about the peculiar concept of "fair" and start thinking "business". Then you will have something that people will invest in. I know I will. Many others too. And if some of the "children" are not happy because they believe it is "unfair", just refund their money and that will make it as fair as it can be. Very sim-ple... if you have a product to sell. Otherwise, you are selling, on a very fancy way, a nice lot of front beach property in Arizona.
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Developer Status:
There is one, confirmed by BK, and jyap contacted me directly to tell me he's working on it with a friend (read up).
BK has not disappeared just really busy, he's still active on Twitter, and he's now promoting his book, "Bitcoin Big Bang". Plus he's had more non-virtual-currencies appearances on CNBC and other places as well because we're in the fourth quarter, pretty much every business everywhere is scrambling to get their year-end stuff in order.
Also I don't blame him for coming around here; honestly if I wasn't given the "Community Manager" title I probably wouldn't be here either based on the kinds of attitudes a lot of these posts are, it's a huge headache.
BK has been burned too many times giving estimates that others could not fulfill, so, no estimates are given at all anymore, and they probably never will be. Basically bad situations by series of bad eggs, but it's definitely getting turned around.
There's no excuse for BK not coming here, and, however briefly, update the community and otherwise assuming responsibility for the current situation of the coin. He's not responsible for the price but he indeed is for the "bad apples" that HE CHOSE. By the way, this jyap guy, he's paid. Make that abundantly clear. He's in it for the money, not for the good of NAUT. Right? why should BK come here really? what obligation does he have to anyone here? really? he owes nobody here anything. bk doesn't even own the coin. anyone who is taking a ride with naut should be aware of this. iconic expert seems to be doing a great job of notifying bytecent investors of updates. perhaps I should buy his coin?  Perhaps you should. And you could sell it for a huge profit already. BK has indeed and ETHICAL obligation to the many people that invested in NAUT, which is HIS coin. And yes, he OWES every single investor ata least an explanation as to why projects started months ago have not come to happen yet. Ethical maybe, but it's fairly naive to rely on the ethics of a relative stranger when it comes to crypto investments. I've only ever seen a few posts and his appearances on TV. An explanation would be useful I guess but he obvs has other things going on or an agenda we don't know about. I'm going with the latter. He is far from a stranger, he's a celebrity, a public persona. And, as a consequence, he has certain implied obligations that other people don't have. Not necessarily legaly, for now, but in many other ways. His book sales, for instance, will suffer greatly if his unethical and/or inept behavior in crypto produces a backlash. It could even threaten his position as a CNBC contributor... and, definitely, affect BK Capital and its employees. It is just irresponsible. And such behavior can potentially come with a huge negative repercussion. |
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Still no buyers for those "cheap" NAUT?
And what happened with that Stabilization Fund?
Did BK cash it and disappeard?
Does BK give his clients from BK Capital the same kind of treatment?
That IS, precisely, the point. By ignoring his investors in NAUT he's showing total lack of ethics and doing credit only to crypto lack of (current, about to change) accountability. He who should be the bastion making the difference. Totally unacceptable I don't care how busy he is. And, of course, discouraged investors, are flying away from this coin, as a consequence. |
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Developer Status:
There is one, confirmed by BK, and jyap contacted me directly to tell me he's working on it with a friend (read up).
BK has not disappeared just really busy, he's still active on Twitter, and he's now promoting his book, "Bitcoin Big Bang". Plus he's had more non-virtual-currencies appearances on CNBC and other places as well because we're in the fourth quarter, pretty much every business everywhere is scrambling to get their year-end stuff in order.
Also I don't blame him for coming around here; honestly if I wasn't given the "Community Manager" title I probably wouldn't be here either based on the kinds of attitudes a lot of these posts are, it's a huge headache.
BK has been burned too many times giving estimates that others could not fulfill, so, no estimates are given at all anymore, and they probably never will be. Basically bad situations by series of bad eggs, but it's definitely getting turned around.
There's no excuse for BK not coming here, and, however briefly, update the community and otherwise assuming responsibility for the current situation of the coin. He's not responsible for the price but he indeed is for the "bad apples" that HE CHOSE. By the way, this jyap guy, he's paid. Make that abundantly clear. He's in it for the money, not for the good of NAUT. Right? why should BK come here really? what obligation does he have to anyone here? really? he owes nobody here anything. bk doesn't even own the coin. anyone who is taking a ride with naut should be aware of this. iconic expert seems to be doing a great job of notifying bytecent investors of updates. perhaps I should buy his coin? Perhaps you should. And you could sell it for a huge profit already. BK has indeed and ETHICAL obligation to the many people that invested in NAUT, which is HIS coin. And yes, he OWES every single investor ata least an explanation as to why projects started months ago have not come to happen yet. |
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Now, the "mess" seems to continue in the mining of the coin: It is supposed to mine 1BYC per block, as advertised. Well, it doesn't. There are MANY block that mine more than 1 BYC. Way more, in fact. Some a lot more than 1 BYC.
I have been looking sporadically since I just have a passing interest in the coin, but I have seen how "irregular" the mining is even now that it is supposed to be "stabilized". Have you check blocks #s 68138, 68154, 68179, 68196 and 68206, for instance. Well do. And you will discover that, quite frequently actually, some people are mining blocks that are way more profitable than the ones you are mining at 1BYC per block.
Are you f***ing joking!! Those are the coins sent from one addresss to another! They are added to the transaction of mined block (1BYC). Examine more carefully in the block explorer. You can generate such "irregular" blocks yourself simly by sending xx coins from one wallet to another. Either you were sleepy when writing that post or just a weak FUD attempt I am still undecided about this thread... Is it a promotional thread for bytecent, a thread to bash bytecent (this one can be excluded) or just some attempt to manipulate the price of this scam It is very simple... for people with a modicum of intelligence and common sense: NEITHER. First, I supported -and invested- in Bytecent. That was before creating this thread. Then IconicExpert messed up (again) big time by not just allowing but even trying to justify the enormous amounts of coins that were mined in the first hours and that stunk to high heaven of accidental or controlled scam. Either way, I insisted HERE, that a new launching (giving him the benefit of the doubt, about if scam or accident) or issuing a refund to unsatisfied investors, were the only options. When IconicExpert refused to acknowledge that there was a mess and pretended that mining tens of thousands of coins when a max of 1440 per day were promised, I created this thread to expose the mess and otherwise force Bittrex to take action. Finally, that happened and those discontent with the mess were given the fair chance of getting a refund of their investment. End of THAT PART of the drama. As far as I am concerned, no one is left in BYC that doesn't perfectly know what they are invested in. Now, subsequently, I have discovered the still unresolved matter of apparently huge amounts of coins moving around along some blocks. And I want clarification, that's all. In answering another poster, the lies of IconicExpert are irrefutable; his pretended "scams" aren't. Quite a difference, in my view. |
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Now, the "mess" seems to continue in the mining of the coin: It is supposed to mine 1BYC per block, as advertised. Well, it doesn't. There are MANY block that mine more than 1 BYC. Way more, in fact. Some a lot more than 1 BYC.
I have been looking sporadically since I just have a passing interest in the coin, but I have seen how "irregular" the mining is even now that it is supposed to be "stabilized". Have you check blocks #s 68138, 68154, 68179, 68196 and 68206, for instance. Well do. And you will discover that, quite frequently actually, some people are mining blocks that are way more profitable than the ones you are mining at 1BYC per block.
Are you f***ing joking!! Those are the coins sent from one addresss to another! They are added to the transaction of mined block (1BYC). Examine more carefully in the block explorer. You can generate such "irregular" blocks yourself simly by sending xx coins from one wallet to another. Either you were sleepy when writing that post or just a weak FUD attempt OK, that seems simple enough an explanation... except that there are not enough coins, ANYWHERE, to "explain away" such a thing. Block # 68900 is 111,942 and change BYC. NO ONE but Bittrex has even a 10% of that amount. Block # 69838 is almost 93,000 BYC... Like I said, there's probably a very simply, innocent explanation to this, but you haven't come even close to provide it. I can though -I believe- explain why 12 hours ago the outstanding number of BYC was at 226K count and now it stands at less than 215K. Irregular, as it is, it seems to be due to the destroying of the coins that were tendered and refunded by Bittrex. Why that happens so long after the transactions took place, simply eludes me. I know that those coins have been mining a significant amount since they were tendered though... Shit wherever you look. All the time. From all sides and parties. Nauseating... |
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Developer Status:
There is one, confirmed by BK, and jyap contacted me directly to tell me he's working on it with a friend (read up).
BK has not disappeared just really busy, he's still active on Twitter, and he's now promoting his book, "Bitcoin Big Bang". Plus he's had more non-virtual-currencies appearances on CNBC and other places as well because we're in the fourth quarter, pretty much every business everywhere is scrambling to get their year-end stuff in order.
Also I don't blame him for coming around here; honestly if I wasn't given the "Community Manager" title I probably wouldn't be here either based on the kinds of attitudes a lot of these posts are, it's a huge headache.
BK has been burned too many times giving estimates that others could not fulfill, so, no estimates are given at all anymore, and they probably never will be. Basically bad situations by series of bad eggs, but it's definitely getting turned around.
There's no excuse for BK not coming here, and, however briefly, update the community and otherwise assuming responsibility for the current situation of the coin. He's not responsible for the price but he indeed is for the "bad apples" that HE CHOSE. By the way, this jyap guy, he's paid. Make that abundantly clear. He's in it for the money, not for the good of NAUT. Right? |
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Pro-Investor sounds like Nutildah, the biggest troll we had on this forum. I don't understand why someone would keep logging on here and bitching about a coin they don't own.  I still wonder why people loose their time creating new accounts only to bash on coins  People who listen to FUD create situations in which they are scared, FUD in turn creates cheap coins for those FUDsters to buy up because they actually WANT THE COIN THEY'RE SPREADING FUD ABOUT. So, "pro-investor" I hope you enjoy your cheap naut. I sure am... "Cheap" and getting cheaper by the minute. You must be experiencing multiple orgasm from such enjoyment... Mr. Community Manager, your job is to keep the community INFORMED, not to be an IRRESPONSIBLE CHEERLEADER that loses credibility with every cheerleading post and misinform the community and potential new investors, ok? Would you cheer in the same (irresponsible) way other, conventional, investments of Kelly? Of course you would... and you would go to jail for it. Just because there's no accountability (yet) it doesn't mean you need to throw away your credibility and the most basic ethic rules by hawking what has proven to be a ruin of an investment, for months now. So act freaking responsibly, ok? Regulation is around the corner and you could (and should) be held accountable. |
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Why don't you start RIGHT NOW by telling us who you are and making the thread (this or a new one) unmoderated? Why wait? I'd say you need more than anything to instill confidence so why beating around the bushes?
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