You don't have to die to give your soul bad karma.
Then your title should state "dank karma guarantee" not "dank soul guarantee". If you're not offering to commit seppuku in a sealed EM shielded box, then "soul" is false advertising. I'm pretty sure everyone puts their soul on the line when they chose to be honest traders or not. You've elegantly articulated the reason why having a soul as collateral is basically worthless. No one can collect it if you screw them over. Since we all live in the present dank, how about you start providing something that we can believe in, like your identity for starters? |
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holy shit.
1st bet accepted for .003 BTC from 1Jy5Ss8BprE2LHdTfj3KS2wvAm2KaF1zm9
GL on your wager sir.
Results will be posted 9/1/12 after 1:11am - meaning there is still time to bet me
Post link to podcast! And what do I need to have to listen? Do people still use Winamp? |
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Why isn't this a poll? Fail.
I think we'll need a poll of all the suggestions, but this one is the best one I realize having all the options at first would have been impossible, but for someone who just wants the numbers relative to this idea in particular, a simple "Yes" or "no" option would have been keen. |
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To show support to Matthew N.
1 BTC
1CfNUGTu766VmLWPzxqpqe1DbhTy1vMr4q
PM me if I lost (won't be following)
Accepted. |
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Why isn't this a poll? Fail.
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Reached quota...
Does not work properly on my cell
lol fair enough mate |
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Matthew..
For the record..
Your contest is in very very poor taste..
Regardless of your intentions.. Its a poor time and very poor touchy subject to make a grandiose betting game on.
Plus your spamming of every thread about pirate about your "game/wager"
Its clear to me your trying to make a point, but its a dickhead way to go about it, and obviously you have some information your playing on.
Stop trying to take stupid peoples money..
They will soon part anyways, why be the dick that proves it.
Your image is worth more, no ?
Learn to PM. |
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THIS IS AN OBVIOUS SCAM BECAUSE I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE BUSINESS MODEL.
(@OP: inside joke if you haven't been paying attention to the Pirate fiasco. Welcome to the forums.)
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Wouldn't someone have to break a contract and have no intention to pay to be considered a scammer? Has there been a contract broken? Is there implied intention to pay?
Yes. I know you have a lax understanding of what a deadline is, but Pirate failed to repay bitlane on time and then again on his second self-given deadline. That's a broken contract already, regardless of possible future mitigation. Then he proceeded to add insult to injury with his messages. Just me spreading FUD but: Im going to call it, at least one of the admins are involved with pirate and want to give him as much time as possible to wind up his scam. Conspiracy theory #2512: Administrative involvement |
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Thanks Rassah. Sorry about the statement earlier but trolling this thread is too fun. I got carried away, I like your comments. Cheers! I refuse to allow people to troll this thread. That's my job! wooop wooop wooop wooop wooop wooop |
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Wouldn't someone have to break a contract and have no intention to pay to be considered a scammer? Has there been a contract broken? Is there implied intention to pay?
Yes. I know you have a lax understanding of what a deadline is, but Pirate failed to repay bitlane on time and then again on his second self-given deadline. That's a broken contract already, regardless of possible future mitigation. Fair enough. I suppose he does deserve a scammer tag at least until he pays. Could we maybe instead have "naive and greedy" tag for all the pirate's "investors". This way all the new (and old) scammers could concetrate on working those marks and leave the rest of this forum alone maybe? Just a thought...  Yup... I'm so greedy I paid out my pass through customers from my personal funds even though my terms say I only owed them 25% until pirate paid up. All together, I paid out 189% of what was paid in to me. But sure throw us all together and make blanket statements. This is what the purpose of the bet is, to allow them the right to make blanket accusations. If they're right, they win big. If they're wrong, they'll make less blanket accusations in the future cause I got their rent moneyz herp derp |
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Fair enough. Bottom line is it was changed very recently.
How does changing one's privacy setting on facebook amount to anything? I added a song I liked on facebook, I guess that means I'm a shill for that band.  MUSICAL SCAMMER! |
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Other than that, I'm notme. Nice to meet you.
You are notme! |
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pirateat40
Think about it. He get's to keep the half million and pays out the 10k to the "told you so"s.
Perfect symmetry.
This is exactly why I just posted a condition in Matthew's gambling thread. If Pirate and Matt are colluding to run a giant shell game on the user base, we will refuse the demands that we be the ones to suffer from such an elaborate con. I also want people monitoring all exchanges between Matt, Pirate and any 3rd parties that could be on board. Good call! Monitor away random SA troll! And keep those conspiracy theories coming! |
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I want one extra condition placed on this gambling: if it's discovered that Matthew is helping Pirate pay back the money in any way, it will not count as Pirate paying back the money and Matthew be declared the loser.
Screw that I'm sure pirate's investors will be very happy if matthew helps pirate pay them back. I'm all for the investors being paid back, but not out of the pockets of the people betting against Matthew; it would also be a way for Pirate to keep the money, repair his good name at no cost and run the scam again. How could anyone be paid back from my pockets? I don't get any money unless he pays everyone back. |
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I just had a really f'ed up thought:
Bitcoin cannot be seized...
If I was in pirateat40's place, I would keep that entire 500k BTC in Bitcoin, then just before defaulting move it to a brain wallet address. Then I would just let things play out, get arrested, and go to jail. 7 years or so later, if ,VERY conservatively, Bitcoin triples in price, I'm out of jail with $15,000,000 in my account, and can retire. A few years in prison isn't too bad for making that much money that fast.
Talk about long on bitcoin... |
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Wouldn't someone have to break a contract and have no intention to pay to be considered a scammer? Has there been a contract broken? Is there implied intention to pay?
Yes. I know you have a lax understanding of what a deadline is, but Pirate failed to repay bitlane on time and then again on his second self-given deadline. That's a broken contract already, regardless of possible future mitigation. Fair enough. I suppose he does deserve a scammer tag at least until he pays. |
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Lovely treatment to a creditor.
Isn't this, together with bitlane's PMs, grounds for a scammer tag? What a cunt.
Easily. Not that it will matter though. The bitlane PMs alone should be sufficient. Mods? Theymos? Wouldn't someone have to break a contract and have no intention to pay to be considered a scammer? Has there been a contract broken? Is there implied intention to pay? |
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That said, just because we don't know what's happening doesn't mean it is a scam with 100% certainty, and accusations should be made accordingly. , Ok, so if we find out this was a ponzi with 100% certainty, do you think all the FUD being spread was unwarranted? Considering it hit all the red flags (which is the only way to detect a ponzi, and as far as I know there are no examples of legit businesses hitting them like that) and considering what's at stake? Do you also scold people who passionately warn others to encrypt their wallets, backup private keys, and maintain control of their own BTC? I mean, you don't know for sure they're going to get hacked or have a hard drive crash, after all. Its hard to tell fanatical religious extremists that God might not exist simply because there is no way to prove otherwise. Matthew is seemingly running a campaign against fanaticism. We know where extreme beliefs lead to in human history. Protip: it doesnt end well. Ironically, I could be called a fanatic by running the campaign herp derp |
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There is only one company at this point that could be interested in this tale, Bitcoin Magazine. Very good move for them in fact, it'll increase readership significantly, at lest for that one issue. Either Matt has full story and knows how is it going to end so this bet is easy 10k BTC win for him, or he's been played by Pirate to push his plan further, Pirate won't pay and Matt is going to lose his coins or face.
So, this would be fraud by the magazine, matt, and the people "in the know". If what you suggest is the true. This wont end well either way. This kind of risk has to be factored in, but 10K BTC or whatever Bitcoin Magazine can pay Pirate makes very little difference considering the astronomical figures Pirate owes. Maybe someone has a decent estimate, but it's several hundred thousands and 10, 20 or 30K would be a small % of that. Or do you honestly think anyone values this potential article for millions of dollars? Fact: Bitcoin Magazine has nothing to do with this private wager between me and the general public. Fact: This is not a publicity scheme thought up by Bitcoin Magazine. In fact, many individuals in Bitcoin Magazine are reportedly pissed I even did this. If this is true then I respect you for it. As long as you pay up at the end of course  My life is bitcoin. This is sewious. |
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