The S.O.C. utilizes the NXT Asset Exchange, and Burst....Soon, we will add BTS (bitshares) once 2.0 is released. Stay away from centralized asset exchanges as they can fold easily like we have seen with many others from the past...coinsortium for example.
A centralized exchange shouldn't be an issue, though, so long as the businesses you invest in keep their own logs. |
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Can someone share some quick financials? Mainly:
1) Cost per share (latest I saw was ~1 mBTC)
2) Historical/estimated ROI per month/year
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The sad part is... what the OP said is actively happening. 99.9% of the altcoins created are nothing but attempts to make the creator rich. While this is way too black hat for me, I have no doubts that it could be legitimate. That said, I obviously can't/won't vouch for this specific OP's legitimacy.
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It's a new month once again. I will plan on having the monthly live chat on Saturday at 12:00pm PST (noon).
10 minute warning. EDIT: I mentioned in the chat that 2oz minted seat pre-orders for the 25 limited gold highlighted coins will begin shortly. The first ordered S7 has also arrived and is hashing away. Historical HashrateNastyFans FinancialsThanks for the info, always interesting to see historical data! Can anyone explain why, for such a volatile area as BTC, the seats are going for what would take 20 years to ROI? This seems highly risky. |
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the idea is good but the site's design needs a lot more work
even with basic css skills you can spruce it up and make it look a lot nicer.
They haven't been around for a while. Not sure if they still keep up with this or not now, or if they already got the investor(s) they wanted. |
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Is there any update on VPSs, such as pricing/configurations yet?
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Any chance you can add a line for expected profit, just to see a comparison between where it is and what it would average?
Yeah, that would be quite interesting. One thing about BaB is that it uses a dynamic house edge, but not all the information is known (when someone would have cashed out). But it could be conservatively estimated by assuming they would've cashed out at +0.01 of what they busted. (And an over-estimate could be calculated by assuming they were exclusively relying on their autocashout) I'll try get around to that tomorrow, as I'm actually interested in this very much =) Maybe a trick would be to mathematically determine the "average" somehow? Like if you can easily ping the database to pull the information and craft the house edges / total bets, you can get an "average" house edge to use that would encapsulate everything. |
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Is it possible to join multiple signature campaigns? allowed?
It's not allowed. And never be allowed. If you are the maker of sig campaign, did you allowing the participants to promote the others place on the same time in their signature? I think you will not, and if you allow, you will decrease the bonus by 50%. *Ouch For now, the only way to get 2 JOBS with your account is by use your " Signature" and " Personal Text" But, i keep prefer choose to support only 1 campaign seriously. I didn't realize anyone pays for the personal text... what is the pay for that like? |
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This is how crazy things have been:
Any chance you can add a line for expected profit, just to see a comparison between where it is and what it would average? |
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Molloype on BetterBets is tearing the place apart! BetterBets has a pretty cool spyglass feature if you want to watch him in action. In the last 24h he's wagered 1794 BTC, and in the process made a profit of 18.94 BTC. We've paid 8.944 BTC to the app in commissions, which means investors have taken a -27.885 BTC hit from him (although slightly offset by some of the other action). Ouch. Yeah I divested all and won't be investing again. Simply not worth the risk for such minimal returns.
Yeah, fair enough. I've lost 250 BTC in the last week bankrolling bustabit, taking 6 months of my income, so that +EV certainly doesn't come easy. But as people divest, it should increase the returns for people still in which I hope means it reaches a nice happy equilibrium. Also I think the vast majority of investors tend to over-invest, it really shouldn't an all-or-nothing proposition. Moderation is key. I have a small percent of my holding invested in various sites. The only all in I have are DOGE at Peerbet and CLAM at JD. But that's because I just have them as speculative bets. how well are these 2 site doing at the moment??? Peerbet is up about 48% in 13 months but value of Doge puts it in the negatives. JD is up like 190% in a few months (I have about 3x starting amount). Neither of these are representative of the future and both fluctuate. understood. i am just looking to diversify my investment. Keep in mind you add another layer of risk when dealing with alts, as well, so be careful. |
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Molloype on BetterBets is tearing the place apart! BetterBets has a pretty cool spyglass feature if you want to watch him in action. In the last 24h he's wagered 1794 BTC, and in the process made a profit of 18.94 BTC. We've paid 8.944 BTC to the app in commissions, which means investors have taken a -27.885 BTC hit from him (although slightly offset by some of the other action). Ouch. Yeah I divested all and won't be investing again. Simply not worth the risk for such minimal returns.
Yeah, fair enough. I've lost 250 BTC in the last week bankrolling bustabit, taking 6 months of my income, so that +EV certainly doesn't come easy. But as people divest, it should increase the returns for people still in which I hope means it reaches a nice happy equilibrium. Also I think the vast majority of investors tend to over-invest, it really shouldn't an all-or-nothing proposition. Moderation is key. I have a small percent of my holding invested in various sites. The only all in I have are DOGE at Peerbet and CLAM at JD. But that's because I just have them as speculative bets. how well are these 2 site doing at the moment??? Peerbet is up about 48% in 13 months but value of Doge puts it in the negatives. JD is up like 190% in a few months (I have about 3x starting amount). Neither of these are representative of the future and both fluctuate. |
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This is going to be a bad news for me as i use a vpn and i dont have a specific ip location, what will happen to my account? Am i get banned if i accidentally forgot to turn off my vpn while logging in? Because im 101% sure that one day i will forgot this.
I am assuming that you would be okay, as long as your account wasn't reporting suspicious activity, like creating new accounts using your referral code in order to buy new miners to feed your main account, etc. I doubt that there is an automated process in banning accounts for multiple IP addresses. I log in from work, home, and at the coffee shop with my account, and I have no problems. Knowing for sure is important before investing though... |
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Molloype on BetterBets is tearing the place apart! BetterBets has a pretty cool spyglass feature if you want to watch him in action. In the last 24h he's wagered 1794 BTC, and in the process made a profit of 18.94 BTC. We've paid 8.944 BTC to the app in commissions, which means investors have taken a -27.885 BTC hit from him (although slightly offset by some of the other action). Ouch. Yeah I divested all and won't be investing again. Simply not worth the risk for such minimal returns.
Yeah, fair enough. I've lost 250 BTC in the last week bankrolling bustabit, taking 6 months of my income, so that +EV certainly doesn't come easy. But as people divest, it should increase the returns for people still in which I hope means it reaches a nice happy equilibrium. Also I think the vast majority of investors tend to over-invest, it really shouldn't an all-or-nothing proposition. Moderation is key. I have a small percent of my holding invested in various sites. The only all in I have are DOGE at Peerbet and CLAM at JD. But that's because I just have them as speculative bets. |
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What you quoted had nothing to do with BURST. And it's not mining it that's profitable, it's speculative investing.
Indeed, but more like long term valuation investing. Speculation can have a bad meaning nowadays. If you look at the potential value of the coin vs it's current undervaluation, you can see that the price will adjust itself soon. If one can profit from that, then that one is called a good trader/investor. It's still speculation. There are no guarantees and you can lose regardless. |
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now moneypot is taking a big hit. my profit is dropping to just a margin gain. hope it wont go negative.
I'm negative again compared to where I was a few weeks ago,  . |
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Wager Warz update
Looks like the whales tanked the bankroll, too,  . |
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Well usually he goes on streaks, so he will go about 3-4 times a month and probably profit around 6,000 for the month. Usually does this for about 3-4 months then takes a break. He won't tell me how he wins all the time but I promise you he wins more than he loses.
It likely isn't from counting -- just playing odds. Most casinos use 6 decks now, and reshuffle at the 25% mark. You would have to sit there for many hours just to get an edge to show up, and it'd be too obvious if you sit there watching for hours until there's an uneven amount of high/low cards, then play for a few hands, and sit out for a few more hours. |
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Just go for bitcoins. You can earn a lot from it
Where is this bitcoins? You should provide a proper site url otherwise how one can guess what you're are thinking. I think he meant mining bitcoins, if you got good equipment you can earn a significant amount of it. But let's not forget the altcoins that can be picked up at cheap price now, and sold later at higher price! I have good and bad experiences in new altcoins, it's true that cost cheap but it can go cheaper and you loose. Not necessarly new altcoins, old ones can be cheap too. Burst for example is only 32 satoshi and its already established. LTC is pretty cheap now, and its through the halving period. NXT is also cheap considering the earlier price levels. etc. New alt coins really does not have a good future. Most of them are just created to make some profit for the owners/developers. I have invested many times but will never do that again, the price is just not stable. I have seen many posts about burst coins. When I did math on this "HD Mining" it was like dollars a month for multiple T on HD. So it's crazy. Please can you show some ROI math on burst coin? Show something besides saying how great it is? I just don't see mining it as practical if the calculators are right. What you quoted had nothing to do with BURST. And it's not mining it that's profitable, it's speculative investing. |
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There are professional blackjack players that would also beg to differ.
This doesn't work long-term, because you're banned long before you make a lot of profit. I am quite sure counting cards is illegal, so even if you manage to count them you probably won't make a profit, just like Ranlo says here. I could be wrong but I think it is illegal at most casinos. You're right; it is. It's seen as theft/exploitation. I thought this was not illegal? Isn't it just frowned upon? How do they actually know you are counting cards as well? Seems rather odd that they would just come up to you and say, hey you have been counting cards we need you arrested? It's all just patterns, and it's easily deciphered. It's not illegal like jail time, but it's illegal to the casino. Then I can't use my memory in the game? How will they discover me, do they have mind reading devices that know when some people is memorizing the cards and when they are not? You've never been to a casino, have you? Yes, I never have been in a real life casino. It is more or less unecessary when you know Bitcoin There are pit bosses at each game watching players. Each table has multiple cameras that have various types of recognition (they can detect things like stress, certain facial features, etc.). And last but not least, it's obvious if you're winning most of the time because, well, you're winning most of the time. It's not hard to figure out. So if you win most of the time they might think you are cheating? I know several people who play Blackjack at a casino here and I have seen them walk away up 2,000 dollars in less than 2 hours. They have gone back multiple times I know, and have won multiple times. Any reason why they are not getting into trouble? "Multiple times." How many times is multiple? They don't care if you win here and there. They care if you're taking $10k+ a day every day from various casinos. You're confusing luck with exploitation. |
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There are professional blackjack players that would also beg to differ.
This doesn't work long-term, because you're banned long before you make a lot of profit. I am quite sure counting cards is illegal, so even if you manage to count them you probably won't make a profit, just like Ranlo says here. I could be wrong but I think it is illegal at most casinos. You're right; it is. It's seen as theft/exploitation. I thought this was not illegal? Isn't it just frowned upon? How do they actually know you are counting cards as well? Seems rather odd that they would just come up to you and say, hey you have been counting cards we need you arrested? It's all just patterns, and it's easily deciphered. It's not illegal like jail time, but it's illegal to the casino. Then I can't use my memory in the game? How will they discover me, do they have mind reading devices that know when some people is memorizing the cards and when they are not? You've never been to a casino, have you? Yes, I never have been in a real life casino. It is more or less unecessary when you know Bitcoin There are pit bosses at each game watching players. Each table has multiple cameras that have various types of recognition (they can detect things like stress, certain facial features, etc.). And last but not least, it's obvious if you're winning most of the time because, well, you're winning most of the time. It's not hard to figure out. |
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