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321  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] YACoin ongoing development on: June 05, 2014, 08:40:47 PM
It's fine...3.5 were achievable when N factor was 14.
322  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: KNC Mining TITAN - First SCRYPT Miner 250MHs+ - PreOrder [36/40 Available] on: June 05, 2014, 08:03:42 PM
They don't offer refunds on Titans so you'll have to wait for it to arrive.

Good news is scrypt is still viable, you guys have a pretty decent chance at a roi and decent profits.  Cool
323  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto on: June 05, 2014, 03:05:37 PM
Not right now, I was folding on and off...got to get my rig back up and running asap.
324  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: June 05, 2014, 11:37:57 AM
It's Qora also, not quora...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quora
325  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] YACoin ongoing development on: June 05, 2014, 04:34:56 AM
I'll probably stay on JPC for a while, but I'm getting ready for the post-JPC mining. I was on YAC for a while before JPC always been very steady,... Smiley

Yeah I amassed a decent bag o' coins with a 750 ti rig...and my own r7 240 2gb cards (which are kinda useless now).
326  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] YACoin ongoing development on: June 05, 2014, 02:11:39 AM
Nice! Cheesy

Go yac heck yeah  Cool
327  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: QORA Giveaway | 2nd Gen | New Source | Thousands of Coins For Everyone on: June 05, 2014, 02:11:09 AM
Got the first one today...did I miss anything?
328  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto on: June 05, 2014, 01:40:09 AM
I'm all for Curecoin, but the implementation IS flawed...devs seem awfully silent and that is not good in the eyes of the public.

There's too much inflation and too little uses for the Curecoins right now, sha256 miners will flock to btc again and the coin won't be secure with PoS alone. Something must be done asap...  Undecided
+1. This coin is dying. Even people are leaving folding as number of coins earned per day is growing each day. Make multipool and make paid advertisment. You have money from the IPO. Contact health organisations, ask for sponsorship. Otherwise this good idea will die.


What?  Like they're increasing the total amount of coins paid out for folding each day?  I got a dramatic increase recently, but I thought it was because they finally fixed the points calculation so that I was getting the amount that matched what F@H reported (essentially getting a bigger piece of the pie).  My PPD increased from 400k to 800k over the last 2 days.

Hush!  Grin
329  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] YACoin ongoing development on: June 05, 2014, 01:31:10 AM
Price already increased 1.32x...go yac! :p
330  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin | Scrypt N | Beat ASIC on: June 05, 2014, 01:30:17 AM
i've just installed 14.4 final, scrypt-N drop speed from 355 to 210K, i'm trying to find the core/mem, but i can not increase my rig speed as same before. It makes hash rate X11 and X13 increasing.
Now, i have to re-install 13.12, Scrypt-N up tp 355Kh/s but X11 and X13 decrease as same old speed.

Anybody like that Huh who can fix Scrypt-N speed with driver 14.4 ?

14.4 frees up some cpu cycles with their new opencl implementation so folding at home and other algorithms that use more cpu benefit from it...
331  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MOTO] Motocoin | Proof-of-Play | First exclusively human-minable coin on: June 05, 2014, 01:07:32 AM
 
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Not to mention my own direct opportunity cost
lol, that's exactly what botters take from human miners.

I'm pretty sure that we only remove indirect opportunity costs... that person is going to be spending that time playing that game whether we are in the scenario or not.


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Profit (again, to me) means above breaking even.  The cost to bot Motocoins is lower then the cost for a human to mine.

The energy cost is probably much higher, brains are very energy efficient and food is cheap.

The time cost is probably the real factor, eventually, but not yet.  My bots currently average a block every couple of minutes - on par with what a dedicated, skilled player could do.  However my bots can run 24/7 where a most dedicated human can probably only mine about 16/6 or so, realistically. (And still stay sane.)

As difficulty continues to increase, I'm sure the bots will soon be mining much faster, and will overtake humans on "time efficiency" of mining....

This brings to mind an interesting point: perhaps the "real" problem here is the level reset on new blocks.  I suspect we could find a way to allow players to continue working on their current map indefinitely, and submit their "win" if/whenever they do happen to find it.  In this way, bots could quietly mine away "in the background" and would still compete with players (via TargetTime) but wouldn't disrupt those players.  I have a rough idea of how this might be able to work: when you start a map you create a tx announcing your intent to play and your game doesn't start until your tx is mined and then seeds the map with the block in which your tx was mined.  When you submit your PoW it must reference your tx hash to be valid.  The initiation TX could even be given a fixed fee (like Huntercoin) which would help to create demand for the coin. (Since you'd need one to start a game.)  This model would be similar to what has already worked well for HUC I think.



Now we're talking...I think it's a sound idea.

Dev?
332  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: QORA Giveaway | 2nd Gen | New Source | Thousands of Coins For Everyone on: June 05, 2014, 01:01:52 AM
Got my coins, thank you! Cheesy
333  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] YACoin ongoing development on: June 04, 2014, 11:49:28 PM
Don't think people will run to buy r7s...people are lazy and slow.
334  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] YACoin ongoing development on: June 04, 2014, 10:07:09 PM

My 6 x R7 240 4GB rig is running at a total of 300W. It is 80W without my GPUs running. Therefore, I'm getting ~36W per card on average, but I think I am paying a price from trying to cut corners with an inefficient PSU.


I'd have to say that might be it.  I've got an EVGA Supernova 750B on mine, and at idle it pulls 82 watts, and running 4 cards it's 182.  With the other rig plugged in and running (4 x R7 250's), it goes up to 384 Watts.  That gives me ~8 KH/sec between the 2 rigs, which should be ~1000 YAC/day when the difficulty settles down.  We're not even down to 50% of the NF=14 diff (it will drop below 50%) and returns are back to ~800 YAC/day.

Looking forward to that! Might cpu mine it too...I'm folding for now.
335  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MOTO] Motocoin | Proof-of-Play | First exclusively human-minable coin on: June 04, 2014, 09:38:59 PM
add some sort of simple captcha when ya hit play maybe? *shrugs*

Genius! xD

At least the botter will have to deal with captchas to make money lol
336  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] YACoin ongoing development on: June 04, 2014, 08:20:42 PM
Yup, those are the best, power/performance/cost wise.

The new NVIDIA GTX 880 with 8gb of ram might surpass them, but it will probably come out in October.
337  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MOTO] Motocoin | Proof-of-Play | First exclusively human-minable coin on: June 04, 2014, 08:19:02 PM
If it's human mineable, then it'll be bot mineable...that's what logic would make me think at least.
Interesting concept, a few orders of magnitude above my league heh, will watch from the sides.
338  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MOTO] Motocoin | Proof-of-Play | First exclusively human-minable coin on: June 04, 2014, 07:44:11 PM
I've been speaking with one of the other botters now, we randomly bumped into each other on c-cex chat...

It seems he likely triggered the big sell-off last night.  It looked to him like the network was having problem, and at the same time the buy side of the book was thinning, so he did the perfectly rational thing and sold the lot.  Woops, the network *wasn't* having any problems, and the buy side showed resiliency and refilled the books quickly (despite leaving an epic spread over an order of magnitude large) albeit at a large discount bid.

The index error seems to be a side-effect of some weird blocks, and is annoying but benign.  The fork rate of the network today is actually *much* lower than yesterday so far, probably because all 3-4 of us botters seem to have backed off slightly since being "discovered" and coming to the realization that we could quickly compete ourselves out of a market to sell to.....

(I'd like to set up something like a mining pool for the botters so that we can compete without risking such extreme chain forks.  Yesterday's huge forks were painful for everyone.)

I think that since there wasn't actually some fundamental trigger for the selloff that bidding competition should cause the price to gradually recover.  I would take the fact that the sell side is not racing to the bottom as a very good sign.  In other words, I personally think this might be a rare, great buying opportunity!  (In fact, I have now bought back over half as many coins as I've sold over the past days, heh.) Also, I would expect that if/when this coin launches on a second exchange the price would rebound almost instantly.

Interesting, I've been following your posts...great work man, mad props :p

I find this coin really cool as well, might get big some day, it definitely is a breath of fresh air.

What do you know, maybe C-CEX becomes the next great big thing, when it comes to alt exchange sites as a side effect too xD
339  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MOTO] Motocoin | Proof-of-Play | First exclusively human-minable coin on: June 04, 2014, 04:54:18 PM
Liquidity - You mean trade volumes? More traders?

I meant it as something of a joke, but yes.  I was not particularly aware of c-cex or the ways in which it is a unique offering in the space until MOTO.  Perhaps you should do more advertising targeted at potential market makers?

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Margin - yes, good and standard feature for fiat exchanges but very hard to implement for crypto.

If done like Bitfinex ("peer lending" swaps model) it should work exactly the same regardless of if the swap is BTC/USD or DRK/LTC... you just keep a CFD pair with an attached interest schedule, and a cron job to process the interest payments on positions.

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We do market freeze only by request of coin owner/developer. We did not receive any request to freeze from MOTO.
Will learn Bitfinex deeper. Thank You.

Although this is something often "rallied against" in the crypto-currency space having these sort of control policies is something that (traditionally, IRL) distinguishes "real markets" from fly-by-night operations.


Thank You very much. Will take to serious consideration.

If you do indeed achieve a bitfinex 2.0 for alt coins you'll have the absolute best crypto exchange for alt coin pairs...EVER.
I'd 1000% trade there!
340  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BTL] Bitleu - Romanian investment cryptocurrency - ASIC-MultiPool proof ! on: June 04, 2014, 10:36:39 AM
Downloading...thanks!
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