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381  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com | The Most Popular Bitcoin Casino | ETH & LTC Accepted! 👽 on: February 10, 2019, 06:25:50 PM
What I was trying to say is, literally, word by word, "They wouldn't be as successful as they are now."

While I understand what you are trying to say, basically,  which is "stake.com still would become a successful casino if primedice didn't exist at all"

If you translate my sentence word by word, my sentence means that stake.com would be as successful as when primedice was 6 months old.

Why?

Stake.com started 6 months ago and their creators are the same that's why. (<maybe stake.com coulda gained 1 month just because there are more games available on stake)

But I get what you are trying to say so no worries.  Wink
But, you are forgetting the added experience and money and bigger team. I understand that without primedice stake wouldn't be this good but not because of the advertisement or the name or anything else. If the topic is that primedice indirectly did helped it to become like this then I can agree to a point. However if you mean people play here because they trust primedice and know it then that is just plain wrong.

When primedice first started none of these people had this much experience and probably some of them had none. Now that team has a superb experience in crypto gambling world and really experts of their subjects and also posses a ton of money to spend as well. Which means the success of stake could be due to their time with primedice but people are not playing here because they are connected with it.
382  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Benefits of ETF approval to gamble industries! on: February 10, 2019, 04:28:16 PM
Aside from the fact that with ETF there would be more people interested in bitcoin, there is really no specific relation.
I mean indirectly sure but the ETF and casinos are not related so I doubt it would make any difference to it at all.

If anything making bitcoin more legit makes it harder for Americans to gamble in crypto, which in return makes it crypto casinos losing their american customers (even tho there are already few of them) and that equals to loss in profits as well. That is why I don't think it will have too much affect, whoever will come will also be at most equal to people who leave and nothing will change.
383  Economy / Gambling / Re: Recommand some trusted bet site without kyc but secured on: February 09, 2019, 02:10:55 PM
Seriously whenever someone mentions a gambling suggestions its always either primedice, stake or nitrogensport (and now bustabit as well). We really can live with just those 4 websites forever. Even primedice started to be a bit obsolete with the stake website having dice anyway and all that.

Do you want to play a dice game without a hassle? Go with primedice (or stake now) and you will have no problem, wanna play on a casino ? Play stake and you will be fine. You wanna play sports betting ? Go with nitrogensport and last but not least if you wanna play the now famous crashing game which has the most wagered amount amongst all casinos? Go with bustabit. Basically, this question can be asked in a million different ways but when I check the answers its always those 4 websites.
384  Economy / Gambling / Re: Online Gambling - USA Player Cashout Help on: February 08, 2019, 02:24:09 PM
Is there like a global license, shouldn't the "banned is banned" work everywhere in the world ? Like let's say it is banned to open a casino in country X, then how can a person get a license to actually gamble on a crypto website without doing it illegally ? How does it work that a country that bans regular casinos can allow you to gamble online ? Since that is not really possible I think almost all of the casinos we play in are actually quite illegal to every one of us.

I know many of them are based on places like Costa Rica or curacao or whatever its called but in the end many of them are running illegally anyway and we are just trusting the power of bitcoin and blockchain so we do not get caught doing that kind of stuff and we could just say it was sent to an exchange for trading and made a profit on trading and came back.
385  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★ BitGame.online ★ 100% Deposit Bonus up to 1 BTC + 30 Free Spins ★ on: February 08, 2019, 12:58:58 PM
That was a wild ride. First of all another gambling website coming into topic of a different casino to judge them is never really liked very much here.

You can be as good as stunna and still should not come here and talk about bitgame.online, specially when they literally have done nothing wrong and when a person claimed their bonus they are suppose to play the required amount of wagers yet bitgame.online made an exception and paid the man back.

After all, that erena coming here and talking stuff about bitgame.online is really not a professional move and enough to actually consider what would happen if bitgame also started to go to erena chat and topic and start writing there and backing up all gamblers against erena ? I would suggest everyone keep to their own topics and kudos to bitgame for doing the right thing.
386  Economy / Economics / Re: Warren Buffet has some very wise words. Crypto applicable. on: February 06, 2019, 03:19:36 PM
Warren buffet had a shorter version of this, he said "fear when others are greedy and be greedy when others fear".

Basically, a low market means cheap stocks, if you look at stocks right now most of them do not even deserve the price they are in and basically all cheap just because the market went down, sometimes a company can do well, stock can go up and everything can seem like its going great and all of a sudden stock could take a crash down just because market is bad even if the company is doing well.

Even during these times all the tax cuts made by the government is used to purchase buybacks and that didn't happen during 2008 year as much, that is because during 2008 many companies actually went bankrupt whereas this years deal wasn't because of bad performing companies and they realized their own companies worth more than the stock and did a buyback.

Definitely could apply to bitcoin and crypto in general.
387  Economy / Economics / Re: Can a new crypto exchange take a place in the market? on: February 06, 2019, 01:51:45 PM
It always depends on the marketing budget and the marketing people. You can start anything in the world as long as you have a marketing budget and marketing expert. This is not just strict to crypto exchange, as long as you have the money for it you can start a mobile phone business and its unlikely that you will surpass Apple or Samsung you can still make yourself a place in the market.

It will take a lot of money and a lot of people and no one with startup mind can reach there at all but it can be done with billions of dollars and hundreds of marketing experts. Same applies with crypto exchange, if you have a lot of money and a lot of marketing agents then you can build a crypto exchange and heavily advertise it every single place on earth related to crypto and get it to a good level.
388  Economy / Economics / Re: Opinions about the emergence of new Coins on: February 06, 2019, 01:12:54 PM
Cryptocurrency or crypto currency is increasingly recognized by many in the world. You know, block chain technology is growing day by day, not a few new crypto are emerging.
I think the point is that there are still some good ones, but very rare, like one in 100 or even less chance. Hence most of the time investing into new altcoins is a bad decision, there is a bigger chance of winning on gambling than just betting your money into a new altcoin. However there is that off chance of hitting the good one. Just because there are thousands of horrible coins that are totally worthless out there doesn't mean there are good ones neither.

For example, IOTA is a good example and it did provide with a lot of profit to many people. Hence what people are probably trying to say is that, even tough yes there is a slight small chance that you make a profit there is also a huge chance of losing money which makes it not worth buying all the new coins since the result will be bad even if you end up with one good one if you invest into thousands of new ones.
389  Economy / Gambling / Re: *** Crypto Gamblers Pub *** Exchange between crypto gambling sites on: February 06, 2019, 05:29:03 AM
Exchanges are made through tipping option in sites.
Must be an innovation.

I was planning similar to this but in terms of "promotional code" or some secret codes. Yes, there was a huge demand from gamblers to move funds into gambling houses INSTANTLY. When bitcoin network was struggling to scale, gamblers needed to pay big for transaction fees or needed to wait for hours. To help out gamblers, I was planning to have a "collaborated exchange with reputed gambling houses" to move funds instantly through promo codes (but like many other my ideas, this also ended up just with plan ups).

I guess, still there could be a huge demand among gamblers for moving funds instantly even now a days BTC transactions are getting first confirmation within 10 minutes.

I like to see you extending your services into more other gambling sites. Good luck!
390  Economy / Gambling / Re: NEW DICE - OddEvenBets.com - Winning 198%, House edge 1%, Provably fair on: February 06, 2019, 04:32:54 AM
Although I know FunFair token for gambling.
Admin, may be you add funfair?
Fun tokens are latest trend of crypto gambling as it might work for houses to replace faucets. Yes, with faucet, you may grow slowly and may become eligible for withdraw whereas fun tokens will serve the purpose of testing the hose rule and behaviors and for evaluating our strategies. My preference is too fun tokens.

Altcoins for "big" bets.
Even you bet big with low value altcoins, it must be equivalent to small BTC bets. Few difference are, you may gamble for long time and you may feel less risky (assumed). I guess altcoin gambling is for the people who engaging themselves only for passing their time and not expecting nothing more than that Wink.
391  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅Sportbetting site►50% RCB,minimum bet only 0.01$ you must join◄ on: February 06, 2019, 03:32:19 AM
💥If your referral lose 1000$ you earn 250$(25% referral comission) but if your referral win you dont lose nothing  Wink
Is this how a typical sportsbetting ref back working ?
It seems I have not noticed the structure of referral payment systems in depth. It means I will not earn anything if my referral will be winning a bet ?

I am really shocked on this as I need to look for my referrals to lose bets so that I can earn which is complete reciprocal of most other affiliates and networking market's concepts.
392  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: February 06, 2019, 02:55:31 AM
Does that bonus thing affect the affiliate as well ? I have seen a decrease in my affiliates income to me, and 100% sure that it is because my affiliates are not playing as much as they used to and almost none of them does the freeroll anymore, only the betting and even that dropped significantly in the recent weeks.

Have you guys seen a drop in the betting as well or is it just my affiliates ? I wanted to check if that is because the bonus also affects the % we make from the affiliates or is it just my affiliates finally realized they are gambling Cheesy. I need to keep finding fresh affiliates constantly and even tough I make profit from them on the long run I have to keep spending that money on getting new ones and it becomes like a cycle instead of a stream after a while Smiley.
393  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | Creators of Dicing 🎲 | 24 Billion Bets | 112+ BTC Jackpot! on: February 05, 2019, 05:05:00 PM
mOgliE is addressing a serious point that I have noticed in the past, but didn't want to comment on.

What? Oo

Hmm... No... I was merelly asking for a bit more details if they have some. I just happen to like the data pages you can get on gambling sites that's all. That was merely a small suggestion as all this data is already available for Primedice so putting them in a table shouldn't be lots of work and I'm sure i'm not the only one who would appreciate it.

That's all. There is nothing more, I'm not adressing any issue Oo
How dare you not address a serious point!! Cheesy Lol. I agree with you on this one, any sane person with a brain would know this is just to showcase a good result with the other gamblers and since the results are always open to public on the website anyway this is not some sneaky tactic to make everyone gamble with the hopes of winning a lot of money.

@Josepth the fact of the matter is that most of the time people do gamble knowingly full on that they will lose because there is a house edge however house edge works on long periods of times and this just shows even tough with house edge you will lose long term, there is always that short bursts of winning chance for you with one big winning changing your luck chance to your favor. Doesn't always happen every single time you gamble but this shows there is that chance.
394  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🏈7 Days Of Super Bowl at Nitrogen Sports 🏈safe. anonymous. future of betting. on: February 05, 2019, 04:03:03 PM
It was just 2 weeks ago as well, great odds for them if you ask me. I know there could be better odds out there somewhere but if I were any smarter I would get those odds any day of the week, 5.5 for pats to win? That is easy money, Brady has lost a lot of Super Bowls in his time so its always a risk (3 losses I think?) and that is why there is no guaranteed result in NFL but if you look at Rams and their QB was good and all but he is a noob on this stage and Brady literally played on a superbowl game when Goff was literally in elementary school or something.

Looking at how Goff was a third year dude, Pats decided to change their game, normally they play man defense almost all the time but played zone 90% of the time on Superbowl to surprise Goff and he didn't know what to do. Great game by Pats defense and kudos to Belichick for that decision (or whoever suggested it to him).
395  Economy / Gambling / Re: New Dicebot script. Earn 10% fast with low risk. on: February 05, 2019, 01:59:20 PM
manual doesn't have "less risk" in playing. It is the same risk as using a bot, there is a house edge of 1% and you are going to lose on the long term no matter what you use, you can use manual betting, you can use the automated betting on the site, you can use a bot like this but in the end if you play long enough you are going to lose.

What this puts as risk is the risk that you may have a bug in the script that doesn't involve your plans and may bankrupt you in much quicker way and than you will end up with nothing much more quickly, it is not a different result, all results lead you to have nothing in the end but a bug in a system like this could get you there quicker. Doesn't matter if you use the script or not you are going to lose money. This just takes all the fun out of gambling.
396  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: February 05, 2019, 01:01:35 PM
Let's look at their answers. One is basically answered by saying "yes we do not give good odds and if you are a whale you can get boosts that might close the gap but otherwise odds are crap", the second one basically says "we have no idea how self exclusion works but we have someone who does so we are not going to answer this question at all?" like that makes any sense at all, that is not even an answer, just stating they have an employee about that matter but no answer to it at all.

Third one was answered "we would like to not talk about it in detail because it might make us look bad", if they had any information to clear their name, they would give it, they do not have any info that would make them look the rightful part so they are not even attempting to show it since they don't have any right to do what they did. I can continue for the rest but you get it, they are slimy and even D- is a lot to them.
397  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Is Now Officially In Its Longest Bear Market Ever on: February 04, 2019, 07:10:52 PM
Bitcoin has officially entered the longest stretch of declining prices in its 10-year history.

The world’s oldest and most valuable cryptocurrency achieved an all-time high of $19,764 on Dec. 17, 2017 on the CoinDesk Bitcoin Price Index and has printed a series of lower price highs ever since, making February 2 (as per UTC time), the 411th consecutive day prices have been in decline.
That is probably because bitcoin also reached the highest it has ever been by a 20 fold and then dropped from there. I understand this bear talk is easy and people are upset about the prices are not going up so thats understandable however the price is 3.5 thousand dollars right now.

I know it looks low and it is definitely low compared for the previous 1.5 years and if you got in anywhere in the previous 1.5 years or so you are not happy with the loss you got however the price is best it has ever been except the summer of 2017 and winter of 2017 period of that 10 years of existence. Hence, the bear market is definitely sad and I hope we will start going up soon but there is also no need to be negative about it and make drastic changes in your life because of it. Just be patient and try to accept bitcoin as what it is.
398  Economy / Economics / Re: Crypto as a payment method for goods: what to expect in 2019 on: February 04, 2019, 03:59:56 PM
I'm wondering what's your opinion on the goods purchased in currencies other than euros or dollars, say crypto. I'm aware it's being used as a regular currency in various fields now. There are, for instance, lots of successfully run marketplaces based on crypto out there. 
Over the past year, the market capitalization within crypto soared to the Moon.  Unfortunately, it's been a bear trend for a while now and no one can say for sure when it's gone. However, I am still thinking there's some light at the end of the tunnel - new market, pretty few competitors, great potential. So it's high time to become an active user.

So that begs the questions: Your thoughts on crypto as a payment method? Any progress achieved in the upcoming year?
There is also the trouble of changing money from bitcoin to your bank account with ease. That is why shops do not accept bitcoin that easily, we need a global company that makes changing bitcoin to fiat very easy and that way we can turn the bitcoin payments to a regular thing.

If a company figures out a way for a shop to accept bitcoin, even not accept bitcoin but just accept payments with debit cards or mobile phones, we can mange to pay with our crypto while they receive fiat, the middleman will be making money from the buyer of course but allowing us to spend bitcoin and let the shop decide if they will receive bitcoin or fiat INSTANTLY will allow us to use it in many more places. Until that day we are bound to just use it on places that accept bitcoin.
399  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Diversifying has never been the same in crypto. on: February 04, 2019, 03:22:26 PM
Diversifying is a new meaning when it comes to crypto currency. Alot of crypto coins out there now. is it the generation of diversifying your portfolio. Now the average investor don't have to invest in Bitcoin if they don't want to. They got dapp coins. Privacy coins. Cloud coins. So many coins. U don't need to invest in one place anymore. Any bull run can give u net gains of over 2000% in a single night. Only if targeted by luck.
You do not need to invest into many things in crypto, all those dapps and privacy and cloud and whatever are just crypto currency all together and they usually all move together as well. In stocks when you diversify your portfolio the reason is that apple stocks go up while microsoft goes down or exxon could go up while berkshire goes down.

Basically in stock markets the reason is that you have 50+ different stocks which would help you never lose money from just a single company doing something bad and bankrupting themselves. Are there market crashes like we had couple months ago? Yeah sure there are but they are once a decade so its fine for the investors.

All the above, on crypto, if bitcoin goes down all goes down, if bitcoin goes up it all goes up, hence diversifying doesn't really matter as much as it does in stocks.
400  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Discussion: Bitcoin Market Manipulation - Pump & Dump on: February 04, 2019, 02:46:12 PM
In my opinion, pump & dump groups and the activity itself serves only the creator and close circle around him/her. So far, many people lost funds due to it and should be kept out of the industry. There are many other legitimate strategies around to be used instead of it (as to not spam with long text, few can be found here: https://www.cryptocointrade.com/about-trading/crypto-trading-strategies/)
On "bitcoin" there is really no one and no group that is really powerful enough to pump and dump. However on smaller altcoins they can actually increase and decease the price of a coin very quickly. There are really two possibilities for a pump and dump afterwards, one is that coin actually going up and when goes down it is still more than what it used to be which is a great scenario for the owners of that coin.

However, the bad part is sometimes it goes up but goes down harder and goes even lower than what it used to be. Now when a pump and dump happens it makes the coin heard, if you see a coin that goes up 50%+ in a day you learn the name and they may get couple more investors thanks to the awareness created by the pump and dump group and if the coin doesn't go below what it used to be that is the best thing that could happen since its a win-win situation.
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