do u take in consideration to make btcguild 0% fees pool ?
And then how to pay for anything? Donations? |
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OK, finally decided to give this a go, october jupiter 8 vrm which was running around 557GH Followed the instructions to change to 211, and initially speed was awful around 400, so using cyper's post as a guide started messing with advanced page replicating the spi voltage and frequency and then tweaking the various die voltages, after a while I only managed to get it back up to around 500 and decided to give up. Flashed back to 0.98 and the miner returned to it's usual 557GH Today decided to give it another go, flashed back to 0.99.1-tune, made the alteration to 221 and restarted and it was up around 620 which was excellent, when I looked at the advanced page it had remembered all my settings from the previous attempt. Most of the dies were running around 50A similar to the screenshot cyper posted, but one was up at 54A so I lowered it's voltage setting and hit apply, immediately the miner dropped back down to 550GH and all the dies dropped back down to 42-43A Very confused now  Applying anything at the Advanced page removes the overclock with immediate effect. To restart the overclock just do /config/zzz.sh restart or whatever file you use. So basically when tweaking the voltages whenever you hit Apply you need to restart the overclock file via SSH  I would suggest to install BFGminer - it is much easier to tweak as you can see the hash rate of each individual board. |
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how high can the cdf % get? over 100?
99.999999999999999999999999999... just add more 9's but it can never reach 100% . the 28 hours time right now is one of the worst we have done in years. Luck for this difficulty not including this block is 91.25% If we include the current block up to now then luck is 81.15% So hopefully there should be quite a few easy blocks after this monster |
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I do not use google translate
I will not answer you anymore if you do not use Google translate |
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hahahah
is not my language
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ghash.io may have have zero % fees, but I think the hidden cost comes from their small random payouts which tack on a fee of 0.001
You can't set your auto payout threshold to anything but 0.1, strange.
Check your facts. There is no fee for auto payment, only for manual. |
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how is the extra watt after overclocked the jupiter? does anyone know?  |
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Does someone have the code handy for a cgminer.sh file that has each board or die for that matter OC'able? I think I can get more performance out of particular boards but not by doing the entire Jupiter. Thanks.
Paste just below line 61 or whichever line the original 0x86 register is at. Also change if [ $c -eq 0 ] to your particular board configuration. http://pastebin.com/vy7jppS3 |
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BTCGuild = 3% Fee (Thats ALOT when it comes to bigger BTC amounts)
Eligius = due to some problems i seem to get there around 2% less than ghash.io
So it DOES matter where you mine.
I get just under 4% less 'hashrate' at GHASH than BTCGuild which would counteract the 'fee', there are also (unconfirmed) missed payments - never quite managed to corroborate it, but certainly the ppol has found more blocks than the 'popup' message has notified me that i've received payment for the block YMMV, but personally I only allow the traded ghs from cex to mine at ghash. I also get ~4% less hashrate at Eligius than I do a BtcGuild, but some people are blinded by 0% pool fees. They may actually be losing out in the long run. minus BTCGuild's 3% fee and your clearing a WHOPPING 1%... it amazes me how blindly greedy some people are around here also if you used eligius you would have known that wizkid has been working on his own version of cgminer for KNC miners that can net you an extra 10% 5% or more hashing power. Don't look now, but Eligius is gaining on BtcGuild and is not far behind (15% versus 17%). Some of this change is due to variance. Are you going to switch away from Eligius if they become the second largest mining pool, or are you going to be "greedy" and stick with them? https://blockchain.info/pools?timespan=24hrsThat chart is wrong most of the times. Check pools websites: Eligius is 1.6PH/s BTCGuild is 3.3PH/s GHash.io is 4.7PH/s |
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The guy is nowhere to be found.
I suggest waiting some more time and then just contacting KNC to change the reseller info on the account, which is perfectly possible.
I will personally contact everyone on that list if the Wesly doesn't show up.
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I've only mined on BitMinter due to ease of use on my Mac.
So my question is, do all pools go through blocks this long? I know everything averages out, but can some pools vary between 40 and 60, and some pools between 1 and 99 CDF? How are some pools luckier than others?
Ghash.io had a 4 hour block a couple of days ago: it was a bit over 14 billion proof of work, so you are currently half way there |
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From what I understand, 51%'ing a network does no harm unless the pool operator has bad intentions.
Why risk it though? What does ghash.io give you that BTCGuild or eligius doesnt? Compared to BTCGuild: 0% fees Compared to Eligius: less variance I started mining with them around 3am UK time on 03.01.2014, so in about 1 hour that will be exactly 1 week mining. My average hashrate is 3200GH/s. For that 1 week period I have mined 8.54603089BTC exactly (not counting the last 1 hour of the full 1 week), while the calculator says 7.94166635 BTC per week. So (8.54603089/7.94166635)*100 = 107.6% luck So all looks good. that's a bit greedy.. you'd rather risk the bitcoin network and go against Shatoshi Nakamoto's design just for a little extra coins. even ghash.io has admitted that they are a threat to the bitcoin network and will make good... but still there are a few people that just don't care Ghash.io is far from having 50% of the network, but yet people freak out. Obviously it is impossible to predict their exact share as this is based on previously solved blocks and luck, but roughly it is around 40% currently, which is far from 50%. According to http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/ total hashrate is close to 16PH/s Ghash.io has 4.7PH/s That's less than 30% If they get really close to 50% then I will surely move out. |
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Also back in 2011 there was no pool even close to DeepBit size that was free.
That's kind of my point. From what I can piece together Ghash is NOT a free pool. It is. There is no such thing as something for nothing. As I said they have their own ASIC revenue and they have plenty of "customers" paying them. They make money from trading on cex.io, so Ghash.io is free from independent miners such as me and many others. |
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From what I understand, 51%'ing a network does no harm unless the pool operator has bad intentions.
Why risk it though? What does ghash.io give you that BTCGuild or eligius doesnt? Compared to BTCGuild: 0% fees Compared to Eligius: less variance I started mining with them around 3am UK time on 03.01.2014, so in about 1 hour that will be exactly 1 week mining. My average hashrate is 3200GH/s. For that 1 week period I have mined 8.54603089BTC exactly (not counting the last 1 hour of the full 1 week), while the calculator says 7.94166635 BTC per week. So (8.54603089/7.94166635)*100 = 107.6% luck So all looks good. |
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Also back in 2011 there was no pool even close to DeepBit size that was free.
That's kind of my point. From what I can piece together Ghash is NOT a free pool. It is. And because I am always suspicious of 3rd party claims I like to verify things myself, so I ran my own calculations: I started mining with them around 3am UK time on 03.01.2014, so in about 1 hour that will be exactly 1 week mining. My average hashrate is 3200GH/s. For that 1 week period I have mined 8.54603089BTC exactly (not counting the last 1 hour of the full 1 week), while the calculator says 7.94166635 BTC per week. So (8.54603089/7.94166635)*100 = 107.6% luck So all looks good. |
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What GPU pulls 350W?
I run 7970/280X decently overclocked. They each pull 340-360 on a good day. More if you want to really squash your balls on the wall, I've had them pull 380 before. KNC board uses 3x 12V circuits to carry up to 15A of current.
A GPU uses 6x 12V circuits to carry up to 23A of current.
Which one looks more to you?
Yes, I understand 3x5a=15a and 6x3.8a=23a. Are you aware that the PCI-E slot provides 75W of the total power? Are you using powered PCI-E risers? When you answer these questions you will understand that each 12V circuit on the GPU cabling uses less that the KNC board Yeah I'm aware of PCB design, and how the PCIx platform provides power. No, I don't use powered risers, all of the juice flows through the PCIE connectors, which means they flow more current than a normal setup. You also should follow the conversation, specifically my ignored my question regarding pushing the KNC clock beyond stock to cause the wires to reach danger levels. Most 18AWG has a 4x-6x safety rating built in (depending on purity, oxygen content and sleeving)--even at 10amps they should be safe bundled together. Bundled @ 5amps (KNC design) they shouldn't be a danger. KNC isn't loopy, which is why they knew they could use 18AWG for the boards. This is why I proposed some airflow across them for anyone concerned about temps, and that they shouldn't be reaching such high temps anyhow unless something is wrong. Again, mine don't get near that, another reason I was asking about overclock. Edit: My modules are running 145-155gh, the cable temps are 36.9C, the room is 26.7C. I have no form of cooling on the cables. The bottom line is no GPU card can pull as much current per cable as a KNC board does.
I run banks of 7970 GPUs pulling up to 450w _EACH_... yeah, it adds up.
I highly doubt that. I have a 7970 myself, so can speak from experience. I've ran benchmarks @ 1340Mhz / 7600Mhz and 1.33V core which is a lot. |
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Ghash.io owns the private part. Buying it on cex.io doesn't mean you own it unless you trade it for physical hardware. They get the best of both worlds, they own/control the hardware, while people pay more than it will ever mine on cex.io. But if they weren't selling it for amounts above what it can ever produce, they'd still own that hash rate and have it mining for themselves. So am I wrong to assume that the hashrate of their own hardware has remained fairly the same, while the the share of the independent miners has increased? They also charge a "maintenance fee" on the cloud mining that is far greater than the actual cost to maintain it. That can be also said for BTCGuild too. Just stating the obvious That pie chart has always been useless. BTC Guild is ~25% of network hash rate. 24-hour, hell, even 4-day charts are USELESS because they are heavily influenced by luck. http://blockorigin.pfoe.be is accurate for BTC Guild's share of the network over the last 2 weeks. Still influenced by luck, but SIGNIFICANTLY more accurate than blockchain.info. The stats on that website are based on the past 10-12 days, which does not show the current position of the pools. I don't think Ghash.io controls only 30.85% of the network, because people would not be freaking out if they did. Unfortunately there is no way to predict the current total hash rate of the network as it is based on solved blocks, which in turn is skewed based on luck. What do you think are the real current percentages of the top 2 pools? BTC Guild is ~25%. GHash.io is in the upper 30s, possibly 40. BTC Guild's percent of publicly available hashrate (private farms decrease the network share of all public hashrate pools) has not changed in months. Fair enough. It is just that from a regular person point of view Ghash.io growth seems much bigger than any other pool and so people are freaking out. I would also assume you have no plans to reduce fees, which is your own personal choice of course, so it will be interesting at least for me to see how this will play out. |
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What GPU pulls 350W?
Quite a few pull in excess of that, in fact. You should follow the discussion before making such bold statements. There is a big difference between GPUs and the KNC board. KNC board uses 3x 12V circuits to carry up to 15A of current. A GPU uses 6x 12V circuits to carry up to 23A of current. Which one looks more to you? Also can you show me which GPU "pull in excess of that"? |
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Ghash.io owns the private part. Buying it on cex.io doesn't mean you own it unless you trade it for physical hardware. They get the best of both worlds, they own/control the hardware, while people pay more than it will ever mine on cex.io. But if they weren't selling it for amounts above what it can ever produce, they'd still own that hash rate and have it mining for themselves. So am I wrong to assume that the hashrate of their own hardware has remained fairly the same, while the the share of the independent miners has increased? They also charge a "maintenance fee" on the cloud mining that is far greater than the actual cost to maintain it. That can be also said for BTCGuild too. Just stating the obvious That pie chart has always been useless. BTC Guild is ~25% of network hash rate. 24-hour, hell, even 4-day charts are USELESS because they are heavily influenced by luck. http://blockorigin.pfoe.be is accurate for BTC Guild's share of the network over the last 2 weeks. Still influenced by luck, but SIGNIFICANTLY more accurate than blockchain.info. The stats on that website are based on the past 10-12 days, which does not show the current position of the pools. I don't think Ghash.io controls only 30.85% of the network, because people would not be freaking out if they did. Unfortunately there is no way to predict the current total hash rate of the network as it is based on solved blocks, which in turn is skewed based on luck. What do you think are the real current percentages of the top 2 pools? |
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I have GPUs pulling 350-360watts (29-30amps). I wasn't under the impression that the KNC modules were pulling that. I could be mistaken.
You surely must be mistaken: What GPU pulls 350W? How many cables are you using per GPU? Are you aware that the PCI-E slot provides 75W of the total power? Are you using powered PCI-E risers? When you answer these questions you will understand that each 12V circuit on the GPU cabling uses less that the KNC board |
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