Care to explain a little deeper with this?

Oh, so one minute your saying science has fantastic theories without proof and barely any evidence, now in your next post your saying science proves God as fact.  Make up your mind.  

That's the problem, when someone starts believing a crazy mixed up book, they themselves start getting crazy and mixed up in the head too. And the deeper they're into this book, the more mixed up they get.  You're very mixed up.  


Oh, yes I understand exactly what your trying to do. Don't worry about that, I can read you like a book.

Well this is a refreshing change. At least your admitting that a strong religion like Christianity is based upon no proof and barely any evidence.

Maybe we're managing to pry those tightly shut eyes of yours open at long last. Just a tad mind, but least it's a start.  Well done!

What's the difference?

To be fair the whole forum should get together and have a pact to just ignore him. Once nobody is listening to him, he'll goto another forum to spread his lies.

Correct, it's yourself.


Quite a few people on here have caught you with your pants down changing the definition of words around, your "context" cannot be taken seriously as that changes daily as well to suit the situation.

And I'm apparently the deceptive one? Mmmmmm.....


In another post you correctly stated that church isn't needed to find God. So why encourage me to attend church? The conclusion is you must have other non-God related hidden agendas to get me inside that church, such as to disempower me by stealing my freethought, transferring that power to the hidden religious elite who then control my thinking.


If I was deceptive, wouldn't that require me to be smart?


You can be quite certain the religious elite are not inside church ripping people off, they find suckers to do the dirty work for them without lifting a finger themselves.
You don't appear to know much about how the world works.


The truth isn't ripping people off. Suppressing the truth is however.


Meaningless desperate attack on me. Shall be ignored.



Very true. However to be a great thinker requires freethought, the very thing that religion/church steals from you. Since once inside the dogma of the church, the church do the thinking for the members. The religious elite still allow freethought however, but it is strictly confined within the narrow guidelines of their set doctrine.
Thinking outside these guidelines is not allowed, mentally hobbled if you will. Doesn't set the stage for a great thinker.


Nice idea but in the real world it works along the lines of something like this:

1) Read holy book and believe what it says.
2) Search for evidence and proof to back up No.1.
3) Find very little, if any.
3) Ignore plenty of facts and evidence that contradicts No.1.
4) Get angry with others that point out their obvious flawed logic.
5) Return to No.1.

If you are suggesting that a caring parent takes his/her child to church, than you must also be suggesting that the church cares for the child? Right? Makes logical sense.
You need to educate yourself the exact reason that the church exists in the first place. Spoiler alert: It don't exist for your benefit, only for the smart elite in charge.

Funny how you seem to get these recurring bouts of amnesia with regard to questions, with increasing frequency on here I might add. Ginkgo biloba can help with that.

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  I had a funny feeling you would avoid answering that one. 
Trouble is you've twisted yourself up into such a BADlogic soggy bag of lies, you cannot really answer without digging yourself even deeper into that hole.

Since you claimed that we have no free will:
How could homosexual people choose to be homosexual when they have no choice in the matter because they have no free will? Why would your god try to change their alleged "self-destructive nature", when your god knows full well his supposed followers could never do that due to lack of free will? Why would your "loving" god create homosexual people (remember cause and effect, they must of been born homosexual) then condemn them to hell for something completely out of their control?

Or are you going to make up a special "homosexual free will exemption" rule up? Just like you did when you panicked after I pointed out if we have no free will then Cristianity is proven false.

Assuming the bible is anything actually to do with God of course. That's a BIG assumption.

The bible doesn't make sense, it's a mixed up mess.
The problem is people are too stubborn and proud to admit it's very very flawed, and like to pretend it isn't flawed.

Oh dear, oh dear. What an angry bitter little man. 

What's wrong, failed to meet your target quota this month for new members suckers for your cult? 

You neglected to check your own mind. You'll find your very own personalised custom built god inside.
What a coincidence it just so happens to want exactly the same things that you want, and agree with exactly the same things you agree with.

Now there's a stroke of luck.  

What's believing in miracles got to do with being atheist or not?

Theists believe life began with a God. Which is a miracle.
Atheists believe life began without a God. Which is a miracle.

Seems to me atheists believe in the greater miracle.
Maybe I'm wrong here?
 

Those things weren't necessary at all. An omnipotent God would simply snap it's fingers and create a nation without those morally repugnant things.

Unless of course, your god isn't omnipotent, redendering it a false one.
Which is looking highly likely by the way.

Wake up!!  

How would you possible know that?
If God is omnipotent it could create more Gods with equal power.

Ahh but of course, you was just blindly speculating and wrongly presenting it as fact. AGAIN.

Dear oh dear, poor old BADecker and his harrowing tales of persecution. 
I'm sorry the truth is such an interference for your shaky dodgy beliefs. 

Oh make no mistake, I'm not correcting your delibrate misinformation for your benefit. I'm not silly, I know your poisoned mind has set harder than concrete and nothing I say can be it's
antidote. It's for other peoples benefit that may get sucked into your web of sticky lies.

Scientific theories are backed up by a body of evidence, they are not 100% speculation as you wrongly claim.
The bible is backed up by wishful thinking, which is 100% blind speculation, ie faith.

You are simply too proud and stubborn to admit the bible is wrong, which the insurmountable evidience says it is.

Great well thought out post. Sounds like your a down to earth type of person. 

What I find most interesting is you've flared up over (No 1. Barack Obama is not my president), which incidentally, I've never heard you say.
Yet oddly the No.9 (If you don’t believe in God, you’re going to Hell) myth which you consistently blow loudly on your horn about every day without fail, we don't hear a peep out of you.

Perhaps you're the type davidpalagi38 gets embrassed about.

^ Good old Christians. Always editing the word of God.