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461  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will touch 1200$ in January 2017 on: January 02, 2017, 09:25:16 AM
It could easily touch it in a few days when the banks open tomorrow, people will wire money to exchanges, there maybe a surge around the 7th or 8th Jan...
462  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Bullish Media Center (The 1 stop Bullish BTC news source) on: January 01, 2017, 07:25:32 PM
Thats dope because i ahev always held mo
Im holding more btc then gold and im thinking its about time to sell the rest of my gold and go all into btc.

If I were you, yes, I would do it.

if i were him i would have already done it ,why waste time as btc gets more expensive  .also the ass is dropping out of gold
and might be heading for sub 800 an OZ

there wil be no moon for gold ......
463  Economy / Speculation / Re: Manipulation finished. Bubble popping. on: December 30, 2016, 06:26:34 PM
Kwuk is proudhon v2.0

proudhon was more intelligent by comparison
Kwuk is a product of generations of inbreeding.... Cheesy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7TuFy0fcuw
464  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 30, 2016, 05:16:59 PM
As expected still fighting with supply in that zone, careful with a potential h&s for people longing on margin.



It's happening...could be a retest of 0.012.

Surprisingly bearish, I was not expecting under 0.013...  maybe it was all about the GUI and now Alt market money is looking for underpriced options....

Any TA-savvy crystal ball gazers want to extrapolate from here?

it has been done already, scroll up between 1 and 3 pages, can't remember.



thx for your input on the T/A chart but you make a few assumptions i wouldnt be 100% sure about
the august bagholders may not be the current sellers since the price tanked very low in september oct,nov etc and
people maybe have doubled their money and then some by buying in thiose months of epic crashdom .....

i thin its still a good bit too early for xmr to bloom and people who got biten by the last OASIS and ALPAHABAY scam wont be so
quick to throw millions of dollars into the fire again so easily ,at least until we get some more real use cases ......

Scam?

Do you mean the price rise associated with the news of XMR adoption?

Because your use of 'scam' seems to be aimed at XMR.  Oasis may have been an exit scam - but I doubt much (if any) XMR were lost. One small dark market disappeared (with punters BTC). So?

And Alphabay just opened up the dark markets to XMR, not sure how that qualifies as a scam, either.

Care to explain what you meant?



oasis and alphabay buys up all the cheap xmr
then they go public and announce their news
even went so far as to advise their customers to stock up on xmr for future purchases
customers bought xmr up to near $16 iirc
oasis ran away with everybodys money and alphabay faked a wallet problem and monero was unusable for awhile
these factors resulted in severe losses for lots of their customers
i would call that a scam but you could also say it was a tragic set of unforeseen circumstances which occured naturally at worst possible timing
your choice....

(btw i like monero and i am a signifigant hodler,i am not blaming the coin itself for the actions of the guilty in case it sounded like that)
465  Economy / Economics / Re: Sell Everything? on: December 30, 2016, 05:07:09 PM

We ALL have  an extra kidney son ,i guess you just dont want to be a bitcoin millionaire bad enough and theres no shame in that ....
dont let anyone ever tell you any differnt Wink


Well, you're now a bitcoin millionaire...but you died from loss of blood.

risk vs reward...

kidneys are nothing son

I gave my right nut to buy bitcoins back in the day ...and id do it every day of the week and twice on sundays
 
and im considering giving the left one before we get out of 3 digits cause i want MOAR bitcoins  Cheesy
466  Economy / Economics / Re: Sell Everything? on: December 30, 2016, 04:56:17 PM
Sell your kidneys if you have to, you can buy new ones next year when btc is 100k  Cheesy
Hahaha that is a desperate move just to buy some bitcoins.  Grin But for someone that is willing to do that for how long is he going to wait before it reaches $100k.

I don't think that next year 2017/2018 is going to be enough just to make the bitcoin reach and make itself into a 6 digit value coin.

But I won't do it anyway better to sell some unused goods that I don't need anymore and I would sell some of my coins but still keep on holding.



I think the price of the bitcoin will not be 5 digits. It will be around $1500 to $3000.

I do not have too much of the property for sale. And no extra kidney. So I earned dollars are converted into Bitcoin. Unfortunately it's not as much as I want

We ALL have  an extra kidney son ,i guess you just dont want to be a bitcoin millionaire bad enough and theres no shame in that ....
dont let anyone ever tell you any differnt Wink
467  Economy / Speculation / Re: When do we cross the 1000 USD barrier? on: December 30, 2016, 04:36:31 PM
Combined with a greedy lust from thousands of people who saw Bitcoin as a get rich quick opportunity. These people withdrew as soon as the bubble popped.

Which bubble are you referring to exactly? lol


his acct created on 5th novemeber 2013 should give you a clue lol
468  Economy / Speculation / Re: 1000+ is anytime now on: December 30, 2016, 04:30:49 PM
as of now, the is almost $980 if I am not mistaken and it appears to be very possible that bitcoin will hit $1000 anytime or any day . but I don't know if it's getting more higher but you are right if it goes around $1000-$1200 there will be a correction for sure and maybe the price will go back to $900+ and will be barely stable .

Im starting to notice it struggle. You don't see that?

i would honestly expect a struggle after rising 5% a day for some consequetive  days
a  lot of the banks are closed until 4th of january so people have no way to
get more money onto exchanges to take us to the next tier up

also bear in mind people dont get paid 7 days a week either so some are simply exhausted their
funds and i think we need to relax until about the 7-8th january to pull any higher than this unless
some money comes in unexpectedly from abroad

469  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 30, 2016, 04:08:09 PM
As expected still fighting with supply in that zone, careful with a potential h&s for people longing on margin.



It's happening...could be a retest of 0.012.

Surprisingly bearish, I was not expecting under 0.013...  maybe it was all about the GUI and now Alt market money is looking for underpriced options....

Any TA-savvy crystal ball gazers want to extrapolate from here?

it has been done already, scroll up between 1 and 3 pages, can't remember.



thx for your input on the T/A chart but you make a few assumptions i wouldnt be 100% sure about
the august bagholders may not be the current sellers since the price tanked very low in september oct,nov etc and
people maybe have doubled their money and then some by buying in thiose months of epic crashdom .....

i thin its still a good bit too early for xmr to bloom and people who got biten by the last OASIS and ALPAHABAY scam wont be so
quick to throw millions of dollars into the fire again so easily ,at least until we get some more real use cases ......
470  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: HELP- Malware warning about my electrum !!! on: December 30, 2016, 03:50:36 PM
its a malware scanning app for PC

https://www.emsisoft.com/en/software/antimalware/?id=0
471  Economy / Speculation / Re: Holy crap heading past $1,000 !!! on: December 30, 2016, 02:16:43 PM
It's pretty amazing that the price is this high. It seems like it must be a short term pump, but you never know.

Nothing lasts that long. Currently the price is being driven by panic buyers that are basically too late, but they still think they can walk out with massive profits. I think for now, the peak will be $1000 or slightly above that, but after that we'll be subject to a correction that will push the price back towards the $800 levels. And to be honest, $800 seems to be a very fair price according to me.

If history is any indication, we are probably seeing a breakout to $5000+...comeback to $1500, rinse and repeat....


Ladies and
Gentlemen !
We have a winner ! Finally someone understands ........ Wink
472  Economy / Speculation / Re: If we didnt had idiots blocking segwit we would be sittting on 4 figures by now on: December 30, 2016, 02:10:34 PM
The elegant solution is segwit precisely because it doesn't require a hard fork. There's nothing cool about a hard fork, it's the opposite of elegant. Also you are asking for things that don't make sense technically. Segwit is everything that's needed to fix transaction malleability and so on, and it will make the LN better and allow us to have Schnorr sigs and other cool stuff that anyone that isn't a troll or stupid would agree to add at a protocol level.

Clearly you know nothing about software development. Hard forks are always times more clean and elegant than soft forks. The only problem with hard forks is that nodes which fail to update are going to be left behind for sure. SegWit's soft fork is no better than a hard fork because old nodes won't understand segwit transactions and they will just ignore them. For that reason SegWit is even worse than a proper hard fork.

SegWit won't activate unless there is strong consensus reached. Guess what? An elegant hard fork can also be made in a way that it won't activate unless a strong consensus is reached. Then why we have a soft fork hack called SegWit in the first place? There is no good reason for that. It's just dumb. They propagate this "soft fork" idea as if it was any better than a hard fork just to find more acceptance. It's a clever marketing. Why do the Core devs need sneaky marketing? So many questions, I'd say they are doing foul play. My own writings have now made me realize that I hate SegWit even more than before.

I agree with this

I think segwit introduces more complexity to the system than its fixing and reversal will be  too difficult and dangerous to take the chance....

Thankfully there are other scaling offers on the table we can consider, including bu's gradual scaling approach  and the new solution from lead devs called "teechan"  definitely is worth considering before we do anything hasty like segwit

Well according to this article about "teechan" http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/12/25/teechan-can-potential-solution-bitcoin-scalability/, they are offering an easier scalability solution for the Bitcoin blockchain.

Now with this this will be very hard to choose on what to go on. Only one problem is with teechan, only Intel’s Skylake range of processors is equipped with Software Guard Extension, which makes it impractical until such solution becomes an industry standard, and this may be problem for implementing it in future.

i checked the list and i already have a compatible processor and it wasnt very expensive even a year ago (i5-6400)
 
the thing to remember is not every bitcoin user needs to have an intel cpu ,afaik its only miners,businesses and full nodes who would need one ..........they dont cost a lot and ordinary bitcoin  users would benefit by default (roughly 2400 tx/ps )

473  Economy / Speculation / Re: If we didnt had idiots blocking segwit we would be sittting on 4 figures by now on: December 30, 2016, 02:00:55 PM
The elegant solution is segwit precisely because it doesn't require a hard fork. There's nothing cool about a hard fork, it's the opposite of elegant. Also you are asking for things that don't make sense technically. Segwit is everything that's needed to fix transaction malleability and so on, and it will make the LN better and allow us to have Schnorr sigs and other cool stuff that anyone that isn't a troll or stupid would agree to add at a protocol level.

Clearly you know nothing about software development. Hard forks are always times more clean and elegant than soft forks. The only problem with hard forks is that nodes which fail to update are going to be left behind for sure. SegWit's soft fork is no better than a hard fork because old nodes won't understand segwit transactions and they will just ignore them. For that reason SegWit is even worse than a proper hard fork.

SegWit won't activate unless there is strong consensus reached. Guess what? An elegant hard fork can also be made in a way that it won't activate unless a strong consensus is reached. Then why we have a soft fork hack called SegWit in the first place? There is no good reason for that. It's just dumb. They propagate this "soft fork" idea as if it was any better than a hard fork just to find more acceptance. It's a clever marketing. Why do the Core devs need sneaky marketing? So many questions, I'd say they are doing foul play. My own writings have now made me realize that I hate SegWit even more than before.

I agree with this

I think segwit introduces more complexity to the system than its fixing and reversal will be  too difficult and dangerous to take the chance....

Thankfully there are other scaling offers on the table we can consider, including bu's gradual scaling approach  and the new solution from lead devs called "teechan"  definitely is worth considering before we do anything hasty like segwit

We may try the scale method used by other cryptnote coins such as the Monero. I think they are very elegant.

Definately ,elegant scaling that scales up or down according to use such as  monero uses seems like a winner over some arbitrary block limit cap that needs to be raised via some fork every time we hit the new ceiling

if we could scale to 1.1mb for a while  then 1.2mb etc that would be great ,miners will not make a massive block because it would simply orphan by the other 99% of network so that fearmongering simply isnt true

developers i have spoken to have said this and LN implemenation can be done without segwit  safely and without
changing the underlying fundamentals that took us this far

474  Bitcoin / Electrum / HELP- Malware warning about my electrum !!! on: December 30, 2016, 01:48:30 PM
I got a new warning as below from EMSISOFT malware scanner

https://gyazo.com/d46782e29f6f9517fb322e0967fa68c9

is this a false positive or is some motherfucker trying to hijack my btc ??

 i google the MD5 and  SHA signature and google has never heard of either of them as you can see below

https://www.google.co.th/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=3EBAB1B45819DBE1E1D0015ED1B6C263

(AFAIK i downloaded electrum 2.7.12 from the official site )

475  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 30, 2016, 01:30:36 PM
As expected still fighting with supply in that zone, careful with a potential h&s for people longing on margin.



It's happening...could be a retest of 0.012.

Surprisingly bearish, I was not expecting under 0.013...  maybe it was all about the GUI and now Alt market money is looking for underpriced options....

Any TA-savvy crystal ball gazers want to extrapolate from here?

xmr is not the only option in town
there is another underpriced privacy coin out there that has yet to get the bright lights directed on it and will this month (jan) ,some of you wil know which coin i mean but certaintly i expected a retrace in xmr when it went up 30-40% in 48 hrs

its not impossible that all the major coins take a 5%+ hit because buying has been off the fcuking charts the last few weeks  and people are probably skint
lest not forget that the unwashed massses dont get paid 7 days a week or every day of the month etc so some time will be needed to regroup and launch us up to the next level
476  Economy / Speculation / Re: Once we hit $1000, how far will BTC drop? on: December 30, 2016, 05:55:43 AM
Hate to burst the bubble but it looks like it wont reach the $1000 mark. It failed a few times on bitfinex and bitstamp and now it seems to be in a descending triangle and those always break low. Be very careful trading this monster.

It traded on Yobit for $1080 this morning and over $1000 on all  the Chinese exchanges

The big problem is the banks are closed for a lot of people until the 4th of January,   several people wanted to buy from me but I ain't selling in this range and they will have to wait for the new year and buy from exchanges like everyone  else

I am not going near my cold storage coins to sell to people I have been telling for years to buy bitcoins and many of them didn't and want in now for the ride to 10k
477  Economy / Speculation / Re: If we didnt had idiots blocking segwit we would be sittting on 4 figures by now on: December 30, 2016, 05:04:18 AM
The elegant solution is segwit precisely because it doesn't require a hard fork. There's nothing cool about a hard fork, it's the opposite of elegant. Also you are asking for things that don't make sense technically. Segwit is everything that's needed to fix transaction malleability and so on, and it will make the LN better and allow us to have Schnorr sigs and other cool stuff that anyone that isn't a troll or stupid would agree to add at a protocol level.

Clearly you know nothing about software development. Hard forks are always times more clean and elegant than soft forks. The only problem with hard forks is that nodes which fail to update are going to be left behind for sure. SegWit's soft fork is no better than a hard fork because old nodes won't understand segwit transactions and they will just ignore them. For that reason SegWit is even worse than a proper hard fork.

SegWit won't activate unless there is strong consensus reached. Guess what? An elegant hard fork can also be made in a way that it won't activate unless a strong consensus is reached. Then why we have a soft fork hack called SegWit in the first place? There is no good reason for that. It's just dumb. They propagate this "soft fork" idea as if it was any better than a hard fork just to find more acceptance. It's a clever marketing. Why do the Core devs need sneaky marketing? So many questions, I'd say they are doing foul play. My own writings have now made me realize that I hate SegWit even more than before.

I agree with this

I think segwit introduces more complexity to the system than its fixing and reversal will be  too difficult and dangerous to take the chance....

Thankfully there are other scaling offers on the table we can consider, including bu's gradual scaling approach  and the new solution from lead devs called "teechan"  definitely is worth considering before we do anything hasty like segwit
478  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Fucking Chinese - Part 2 on: December 30, 2016, 12:07:17 AM

what do you call a white woman with a yeast infection? Crackers with cheese.



Why can't white people jump ?       Too busy telling racist jokes.  

White people can't jump Becoz their balls r too heavy.... Fact

Why do white people own so many pets?

Because we're not allowed to own people anymore.


Why are murder cases in redneck cities the hardest to solve?

Because every citizens DNA matches the victim and there are no dental records.


What has thirty-five legs and sixteen teeth?

The front row at a country music concert.


What does a white girl call the man of her dreams, the love of her life and the father to her kids?

Daddy


A teenaged white girl comes up to her dad. "Daddy, the prom's tonight, and I promised my date I'd pick him up. Is it okay if I borrow the car?"
Her father thinks, and says, "Okay, but only if you suck my dick."
As usual, she starts sucking her dads dick. Soon after she starts, she looks up in disgust, and says, "Daddy, your dick tastes like shit!"
Her dad says, "Oh yeah, that reminds me, you can't have the car tonight; your brother's borrowing it."

Were still allowed to own people
just theyre lighter in skin tone now
philipinos and mexicans etc still qualify as property Wink
479  Economy / Speculation / Re: 1000+ is anytime now on: December 29, 2016, 02:27:19 AM
995.66 on coinbase  Cheesy



480  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen. on: December 29, 2016, 02:16:51 AM
There will never be a big crash ever again unless we experience a massive bull rally that makes us go from 1000 to 10000 […]

Every time in history when majority of people & experts believed that only in very strong circumstances there will be a drop back and unless this circumstances will come there will never be a big crash, guess what … it came a big crash.  The higher this gets, the more fragile this is and the more sensitive everything is reacting to "bad" news …  Just my 2 Satoshi.

//alex

This is not a high yet....
We have some ways to go through the last ATH and then an order of magnitude higher before I would consider a crash..

If the crash is premature then this isn't even time for the bull run yet.... It might go sideways for awhile before making another big run upwards.

A note on  ATH- USD is much stronger now than 3 years ago.  We made new ATH in many currencies this month, like my worthless Canadian dollars.   IIRC USD and CAD were relatively close to par in 2013, but we are around  C$1350/BTC right now with USD 975/BTC.
Perspective is important.


Perspective is very important, I like your moonero avatar btw

But realistically I don't consider this a proper bull run unless it goes exponentially higher than all the previous ones, for me that would be.at least  2.5x more than last time but probably 5x would be more likely to be considered an. Order of magnitude larger

If we hit 1000 and fall again to 800-900 we will have to regroup  and break the records in 2017 which I'm happy enough to wait for...

We have all the new markets in all the major countries so less than 2500-3000 would be embarrassing after 2013
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