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Come on, gays guys! I can't play alone. Ask me why my last post is even relevant. And, if you play nice, I'll share with you where the Sierra name came from.
It must be nice to stick it up bitcoiner's asses while they take their bitcoins so that they can...wait for it...take it up their ass.
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Let's say I have a website. I sell product. Business is very, very good. So good, I suspend sales and paste on my website the following: <Sales are suspended temporarily. Please check back soon.> I inform my salesperson/staff to NOT accept any more orders, thus no reason to be manning their sales emails on a Saturday evening while probably in a bar. But, if they do reply to emails from those inquiring, the response should be along the lines: <Currently, we are not accepting any orders, but your patronage is appreciated. We will contact you as soon as we start accepting orders again.> This is basically the response you did receive. He's saying you can't have any until late February, but in a way that makes you want to discuss it further. I guarantee you that if I happened to reply to James' response, he would have supplied me a bitcoin wallet address, but doing such now may be too late, assuming he, or others at HashFast, are reading the latest posts in this thread. What the hell! I'll go ahead and reply and see if James takes the bait.
How would taking your money be damning? That would just mean that they are still the same HashFast that they were yesterday, taking our money. They probably won't ship to you in late February either, changing nothing, and they probably would refund you in USD, even if BTC went up by 10x, which is not new either. A new low would be if they delivered to "you" before everyone else, but that's an expensive test and not really a lot of bang for your buck. I'm not saying they are or are not treacherous, I'm just saying that this specific email exchange does not make them any more or less treacherous than they already are. You guys ready to take this to a whole new level? Thought so. Enjoy the ride (no pun intended)! http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:H6B2rmCuWQgJ:www.daddysreviews.com/venue/usa/california/north/scott_tyson_sf+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=usExperience: This dude is a true hustler. He was more interested in being worshiped and taken care than catering my needs. He wanted to piss on my mouth, and I said no. He kept saying that I had a fit body, but didn't take good care of me (if you know what I mean). He only penetrated me few times and lost it. The rest of the time was just conversation and waste of my time. There is a reason why he asks for the money up front. Be aware. I know I'll never hire this guy again. If you're a tranny and like a short blondie, you may be up for a treat, though... |
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Honestly - how is that treacherous. They're a business; if you legitimately had 120k to spend on miners - someone from sales better fucking respond immediately if they had any sense at all. They didn't let you jump ahead of everyone in line, they didn't expose some ridiculously low price, they didn't overpromise. They didn't give you an answer that they haven't given to the paid customers and the roles that we need responses from (logistics, support, customer service) is not the same crew that would respond to a pre-sales email.
I'm waving my refund pitchfork too, but this is not another negative mark imo.
Let's say I have a website. I sell product. Business is very, very good. So good, I suspend sales and paste on my website the following: <Sales are suspended temporarily. Please check back soon.> I inform my salesperson/staff to NOT accept any more orders, thus no reason to be manning their sales emails on a Saturday evening while probably in a bar. But, if they do reply to emails from those inquiring, the response should be along the lines: <Currently, we are not accepting any orders, but your patronage is appreciated. We will contact you as soon as we start accepting orders again.> I guarantee you that if I happened to reply to James' response, he would have supplied me a bitcoin wallet address, but doing such now may be too late, assuming he, or others at HashFast, are reading the latest posts in this thread. What the hell! I'll go ahead and reply and see if James takes the bait. |
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Are you ready for this, guys? Seeing/reading that HashFast is no longer accepting orders, I took the incentive to use one of my seldom used Yahoo email accounts and blast them an email to see if I could elicit a response. Email sent at 8:52 PM (CST) Me
To sales@hashfast.com Today at 8:52 PM
Hello
My name is Helmut, and I'm curious as to how long it would take for me to receive 20 Sierras if I ordered today. I can pay immediately via bitcoins or bank transfer. Money is not a problem.
Also, I'm not sure if 20 units would qualify for some kind of discount, but please let me know. I would be able to purchase a few more depending of what the discount threshold is. I will also be paying for expedient shipping. I'm located in Kentucky, not too far from Bowling Green.
I look forward to your prompt reply.
Regards,
Helmut G. Received at 10:12 PM (CST) James Kottmeier
To Me Today at 10:12 PM
Hi Helmut,
I'm following up on your enquiry regarding 20 Sierra's. The anticipated ship date for an oder placed today is late February. Our chips are outperforming spec and (as I'm sure you know) all of our competitors are slated to ship sometime between late April and June. We're the company to go with if you want to get hashing with considerable power in the near future. I can also discount you on an order of that size from $6,300 per Sierra to $5,900 per Sierra.
Let me know when you're ready to get your order into our delivery queue or if I can help answer any questions.
Best,
James Kottmeier
Director of Sales
Hashfast Technologies
415-767-8235
James@hashfast.com
Skype: Sjcolle As you can clearly see, even though their website states that they're currently not accepting orders at this time, they will make an exception on a Saturday evening for a guy in Kentucky willing to fork over $120,000+ (including shipping fees) via Bitcoin. But, for all you unfortunate blokes who've been blasting them emails seeking answers to serious concerns, it's fuck you and the alpaca you rode in on. Anybody desiring a copy of the emails for their lawyer(s), feel free to PM me, whereupon I'll also provide full header details. It's the least I can do for my fellow bitcoiners. ~Bruno Kucinskas |
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pcb board assembly for 18gh is 7btc or $798? a 60 chip in a 6 pcb? that is very expensive, maybe i should get a thread offering a much cheaper option.
Amir has 13 posts and he is providing a service ... better be careful.. he does not accept Escrow ..
I'm sure that after all what bitcoiners have gone through on this forum, nobody will fall for, or be taken for a ride by TerraHash, especially by a Newbie with ONLY 13 posts named Amir. If only somebody in the porn industry became a ASIC expect and offered bitcoin miners for sales. But what are the odds of that happening? |
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I'm sure if he posted his address he'd get a lot of donations. I just tweeted him, suggesting he do such. |
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Not sure if there's still time
I want to submit one more name
"V"
I suggest a different letter.  |
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zyngacoin.com is available.
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zyngacoin.com is available.
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Well some things must be left to the imagination don't you think? Exactly! That's why I'm m**********g to the image in my mind about your hobbit feet. Well played! ~TMI BTCITW |
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I find it really hard to wipe when my laptop is on my lap. While taking a shit.
Set up a small table like I'm using now. |
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One must leave plenty of room for doubt whenever Mr. Keiser provides us with such "hints," but, nonetheless, we need a thread to discuss the possibility: https://twitter.com/maxkeiser/status/419497007678382080On Reddit, people are wondering about the "recurring billing" problem with bitcoin. But I'm thinking "view on demand"! There would be a "View Now" QR-code next too each movie and when you pay it in bitcoin it immediately starts to stream. No account required (or an automatic cookie-based account similar to just-dice.com). Keiser is going to be the next Fontas. maybe he is fontas Or maybe he is Satoshi? Or perhaps even both? nah I think Charles Lee is satoshi He is related to Jung Lee? |
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+1 for Finn.  I also like Turing. |
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Signed up to Meetup for the very first time so that I could have the ability to see how many plan on attending. To my surprise, it looks like only 45... ONLY 45 bitcoiners. That's it!!! Doesn't seem to be worth my time, hence...
Seriously, I couldn't believe that at least 45 bitcoiners are planning on attending. I truly look forward to making this event.
~TMIBTCITW
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Well, mow me down! I have two groups of email addresses (192) but I believe there were a total of 5 groups of emails leaked.
The acre plot thickens! |
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From their Terms and Conditions:
"2. PAYMENT.
(a) Payments are due in the amounts, in the currency, and at the time stated in the order or confirmation sent by Payonix, or if not so stated: (a) paid Bitcoin, to the account designated by Payonix; (b) within thirty (30) days of date of invoice. If Payonix incurs exchange rate losses due to Buyer’s failure to pay when payments are due, Payonix shall be entitled to equivalent compensation from Buyer for such losses. Payonix is not responsible for pricing, typographical or other errors in any offer by Payonix and reserves the right to cancel any orders arising from such errors.
(b) Interest will accrue on all late payments, at the rate of 18% per annum or the applicable statutory rate, whichever is higher and to the extent permitted by applicable law, from the due date until payment in full. In the event of any default by Buyer in the payment of any fees or charges due, or any other default by Buyer, Payonix shall have the right to refuse delivery of any Products until payments are brought current and Payonix may suspend, delay or cancel any credit, delivery or any other performance by Payonix. Such right shall be in addition to, and not in lieu of, any other rights and remedies available under these Terms or at law or in equity for Buyer’s default."Now, I'm *not* a contract expert (although I'm undergoing a crash course from a fellow co-op GBC who is also a VP of his own company) but I'd have to say that these payment terms seem to be virtually indistinguishable to a hamfisted prostate massage. Wait: so you mean I could order in a few weeks, and pay COD when they show up? Sign me up!  Same as HF's ToS. |
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Section J of the TOS:
"(j) REFUNDS. Any refunds due to Buyer will be made in United States Dollars, and for the purposes of calculating refunds, amounts paid in Bitcoin or other virtual currencies will be deemed paid in United States Dollars at the exchange rate given by Hashfast to its customers on the order date. Refunds for partial order cancelations or returns will be adjusted for any discounts previously given to Buyer for volume purchases."
Was this always there?
Of course not. The TOS for the first week of ordering or so were very different than they are now. Unfortunately, no one seems to remember exactly what they were :-/. I saved a copy on day 1 (August 8 ) and emailed it to myself so it is time stamped by gmail. I've also uploaded it to pastebin in September here: http://pastebin.com/EfS9vmRfThis is the ToS I agreed to and will hold HF to. Since they frequently changed the ToS and often without notifying customers or changing the revision number and date it is up to each customer to figure out exactly what they agreed to at the date they made the sale. Looks like HF gleaned some of the text from here: http://www.nxp.com/wcm_documents/about/sales-offices-distributors/general_conditions_of_sale_austria.pdf |
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