I can see dumping an entire PM chain to defend oneself - I don't think a person would be guilty of a moral crime.
It is funny really. Had I played along, and one of Russians published MY PM chain (this very chain, just modified) it would be applauded for. This is why I criticize everyone left and right. Either apply uniformly or do not apply anything at all. I'll follow your exclusion list (among many other individuals) closely relating to these recent events, and let's see if uniformity is going to hold up on what is uncalled for and how it gets handled.
My exclusion list hasn't changed because of this nor is it expected to. Not everything that happens on this forum requires an exclusion or red trust. Sometimes just saying "it's a dick move" is enough. That is not what I meant. See here. Thule 2020-03-04 Reference Published PM without consent.
Known scammer and abuser .
I would not trust him a single Cent.
Big part of community got their BCH stolen by him as escrow
peloso 2020-03-04 Reference Publication of personal messages without consent.
kzv 2020-03-04 Reference Publication of personal messages without consent. User cannot be trusted
peloso 2020-03-03 Reference Created a pseudo-religious cult to manipulate default trust list
Balthazar 2020-03-03 Reference Archive reference for previous feedback
Balthazar 2020-03-03 Reference Created a pseudo-religious cult to manipulate default trust list. If I remember correctly, this user was claiming that such activities are untrustworthy (see peloso user profile for details).
A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted. I am dumping the whole PM conversation with madnessteat.
Classy. LOL. Maybe staff should refocus on deleting actual garbage by TECSHARE and others.  |
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This is due to your policy "No public evidence, can not do anything" on one hand, and me not tolerating abuse on the other hand.
Yet it doesn't provide any "evidence" so what was the point? Makes me think that the "secret evidence" in other cases, such as Kalemder's, is similarly flimsy to non-existent. No, this is not a request to publish any more PMs, and not an excuse to blame others for your lapse in judgement. PMs are not private, and therefore I will publish evidence where I seem that it is necessary (unless secrecy is asked). If you want to defend them or claim their innocence, I leave that up to you. Just do not blame me down the road for whatever comes out of not acting in time. Thanks. Publishing PMs is uncalled for.
I'll follow your exclusion list (among many other individuals) closely relating to these recent events, and let's see if uniformity is going to hold up on what is uncalled for and how it gets handled. I on the other hand strongly disagree, I believe theymos also sides with this view (not related to this particular case). That is, this view: Publishing a personal message is 100% acceptable. Unless explicitly agreed upon ahead of time, there should not be any expectation of confidentiality when sending a PM. This is regardless of who publishes the message so long as it is being done by someone sending or receiving the message.
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AFAIK banned user's votes count for DT1. Is there somewhere an explanation why this is? One solution would be to wipe their Trust list, but as far as I know, banned users can still edit their Trust list too. That might be too much though: banned users can still use the forum read-only, and they should still be able to choose who they trust. So indeed, blacklisting banned users from DT1-voting would be better. Fair point, albeit the use case for the former is really tiny. How many banned users actually stick around to read while logged in and use the trust system? I'd say next to none. Anyway, I would support the blacklisting of banned users from DT1-voting right away. |
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I am dumping the whole PM conversation with madnessteat.
Classy. This is due to your policy "No public evidence, can not do anything" on one hand, and me not tolerating abuse on the other hand. You reap what you sow. I have even omitted any information that may be harmful to the user and is irrelevant. He/she/it is welcome. Thule 2020-03-04 Reference Published PM without consent.
Known scammer and abuser .
I would not trust him a single Cent.
Big part of community got their BCH stolen by him as escrow
peloso 2020-03-04 Reference Publication of personal messages without consent.
kzv 2020-03-04 Reference Publication of personal messages without consent. User cannot be trusted
peloso 2020-03-03 Reference Created a pseudo-religious cult to manipulate default trust list
Balthazar 2020-03-03 Reference Archive reference for previous feedback
Balthazar 2020-03-03 Reference Created a pseudo-religious cult to manipulate default trust list. If I remember correctly, this user was claiming that such activities are untrustworthy (see peloso user profile for details).
It also provided you with evidence of this collusion, so have at it. I also put you a tilde on my trust list.
I felt it was necessary to warn you. Someone please tell me the meaning of this saying  Is this a threatening way to manipulate trust? Or am I misunderstanding what it means? If you do not remove me from your exclusion list, I will put you on my exclusion list. In this way, it is like an act of retaliation LOL I used to send a message to a user asking him why he exclude me, but it just stopped there, there shouldn't be any revenge. We have the same hats, but we don't have the same thoughts, it's a pity  I will translate it (this is what happened): Step 1: User A: You have me excluded, can you look into it? Step 2: User B: I will look into it - I have looked into it - Questions some inclusions/exclusions or sent ratings (depending on what is problematic). Keep in mind that this review is solely because User A asked. Step 3: User A: I have excluded you. This is what would have happened if I had acted differently: Step 1: User A: You have me excluded, can you look into it? Step 2: User B: I have removed your exclusion. Step 3: User A: Thanks (and possibly "I have included you" - and the cycle begins). |
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AFAIK banned user's votes count for DT1. Is there somewhere an explanation why this is?
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Was it really necessary to post private discussions on public?
Yes. Any attempts, and I do not care by who, of even remote manipulation, coercion, threats and many other things instantly get posted by me. Aside from myself, the PMs can be read by the administrators, the datacenter technicians, Cloudflare, and the NSA. They are public as is anyways. However, you already answered him and ignored PM. That should ended there from your end.
I call absolute bullshit. Had I removed him from my list as he initially asked, not only would I not be excluded I would probably be included. This is a scratch my back and I'll scratch yours kind of abuse. Statements such as yours also sadly enable these people: Many examples by others "agree to disagree", "difference in opinion", "ignore it and it will go away". I have tagged Lauda.
Publication of personal messages without consent. User cannot be trusted
Make sure you do the same for Techy and OGNasty. I am waiting. I believe we are way beyond ripe to start multiple flags (flag type-1) against the involved users (many from the Turkish section, a few from the Russian section). |
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Update: Posts will be removed if nothing of substance is said (like one just was).
If you think that deleting my messages in the topic you have created is the best solution, then I see a problem. I therefore suggest that you create a normal thread or not delete my posts. Your topic with a cult created a long time ago this is the reason why I turned to you. If you think that you should encourage other users to compile their trust lists based on your recommendations, then you don't understand how the trust system should work. Any other arguments? |
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FTFY. Good argument. Move along now if you have nothing proper to say.
Update: Posts will be removed if nothing of substance is said (like one just was). |
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PM: Hey Lauda
Wassup my man.. do you know anyone who can do kyc for me? Hit me up? You mentioned that it can be done for as cheap as 50$.. thanks
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I am really tired of people trying to manipulate their way out of my trust lists via PMs. I am dumping the whole PM conversation with madnessteat. Hi, Lauda. You bet me again "~". Last time I got a tilde in connection with some fictional conspiracy in the Russian locale. Then you removed it. May I ask why you gave me the squiggle again? I'm not used to putting tilds back or personal dislike, so I decided to ask. Do you not trust my investigations into forum abuse or my feedback? Or you don't want me on the DT list?
Hello. I'd need more context on what you're talking about? Either you were always ~excluded in the Cult of Lauda list or you weren't. I just had an empty list for long. I need more context on who you are, who your inclusions are, etc. Hello. Maybe something will remind you of this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102731.msg49444890#msg49444890. But I'll tell you right away that I didn't participate in any conspiracy and didn't put a tilde to you or TMAN and how I got into DT and got a red paint bottle I started to clean the Russian locale from different abuses. Me and Ratimov painted all the sellers and buyers of accounts, if I have enough time, I investigate the bounty Abuzes and find the hacked or sold accounts. You can see my feedback they will tell you a lot about me. Here's my trust list: http://loyce.club/trust/2020-02-01_Sat_05.15h/1894120.html. Many Russians, but that is fine. Coin-1 (Trust: neutral) (712 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
28. DIKUL (Trust: neutral) (146 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
29. Nikisa (Trust: neutral) (216 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
30. jokers10 (Trust: neutral) (333 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
May I know why these users? There's nothing indicating that their judgement should be trusted.
Fair inquiry? No answer since until today where I got: Two of them haven't been to the forum in a while. All of them are ordinary users of the Russian locale. I don't know them personally but they haven't done anything wrong to anyone. I don't think that my trust list should be based only on judgments about a person or on your opinion. As I said before, I have -retracted- and I just don't understand such manipulations of other people's opinions. You openly encourage users to add me to their tilde trust lists. I find that unacceptable to the trust system. I also put you a tilde on my trust list. I felt it was necessary to warn you.
Exposing this public or showing it to other DT members was claimed to be "proof of my manipulations". Do not PM me anymore.
Local thread rule: Known forum-troll and trust system abuser, TECSHARE, is not allowed to participate. |
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Simple solution: Do not employ anyone from the Turkish section until they as a group mature up. Problem solved. IIRC this is the most problematic section I have dealt with in all my history here (and Asian shitposters I have dealt with in countless number - which says a lot).
Now that does sound racist. I don't think you should be trying to influence them to endure your double standards and scamming by threatening to crush their chances to earn from the forum like you and your toadies. Nope. You can scream and shout racism, but that will lead you to nowhere. They have created a problem themselves, and I am offering a simple solution to it. That is it.  |
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better now?  It is, but lose the rolling eyes. You know that these policies are good for the forum. better? Sigh. It is advisable to seek some counseling as you seem to certain aspects of maturity. I wish you the best. |
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Simple solution: Do not employ anyone from the Turkish section until they as a group mature up. Problem solved. IIRC this is the most problematic section I have dealt with in all my history here (and Asian shitposters I have dealt with in countless number - which says a lot).
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Lauda has a special sponsorship deal with FJ he does not go through hhampuz.
Some say he is a part of FJ.
Some say that I am the CEO of FJ. Others say that I live on the Mars. Without proof, any statements without evidence in any cases would amount to defamation and you know how that is handled.  |
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better now? It is, but lose the rolling eyes. You know that these policies are good for the forum. |
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Both accounts had the following rating: suchmoon 2019-12-24 Promotes Yobit's "10% daily" scam.
Should anyone be surprised that this is now being revealed? Such people do not care about anything other than money. |
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What a totally inept reply from someone who you informed about the goings-on. He should have at the very least have been courteous enough to reply with an explanation. The user Gyrsur has not signed in since yesterday so is probably unaware of what is going on so we look forward to him posting here after he read the PM (sent by Lauda) and this thread.
who are you This is all I have got. I have sent him the following, asking the second time for a reply: Does it matter? Concerned neighborhood cat.. please respond in the thread when you can.
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Since, according to you, nobody can oppose me my advice to you it to just start with the following: Official way to worship me:The Queen of Cats guides us. The Queen of Cats teaches us. The Queen of Cats protects us. In your light we thrive. In your mercy we are sheltered. In your wisdom we are humbled. We live only to serve. Our lives are yours.
Source.  |
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The user Gyrsur has not signed in since yesterday so is probably unaware of what is going on so we look forward to him posting here after he read the PM (sent by Lauda) and this thread.
who are you This is all I have got. |
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you are the ultimate scam account ~marlboroza
QFR. bump
Can you make a short final list of user names that are being considered here? |
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