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521  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Publicly held Trump trials - ongoing on: December 21, 2023, 10:10:24 AM
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All you need to do is read the Constitution, the laws, and the court cases, to see this. Of course, simply reading that stuff doesn't do anything. You have to think. And like many Americans, the evidence is that you are finding that thinking is difficult for you.

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Hey BA, look, someone in Colorado must have read the US Constitution...
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/19/politics/takeaways-trump-colorado-supreme-court-14th-amendment-insurrection/index.html

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Colorado’s historic ruling that Trump is ineligible for office based on 14th Amendment’s ‘insurrectionist ban’

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The Colorado Supreme Court made history Tuesday with an unprecedented, freeze-in-your-tracks ruling that former President Donald Trump is constitutionally ineligible to run in 2024 because the 14th Amendment’s ban on insurrectionists holding public office covers his conduct on January 6, 2021.

[...]

All eyes are now on the US Supreme Court — which is posed to play a major role in the 2024 election as it grapples with a series of major Trump —related cases.


So Trump is not, as of now, in the primaries for Colorado, which is not that much... except that similar cases are filled all over the US.


There could be other several states to try to pull off this, but let us be realistic. This legal issue on whether Trump is elegible to run for the charge of President of the United States again is going to be brought up to the Supreme Court itself sooner or later, and keeping in mind the political position of this SCOTUS, is almost guaranteed they are going to rule in favor of Trump.
In the midtime, these attempts to disqualify Trump from running for the presidency will likely just increase his popularity and polls numbers, in the same way it has already happen with all the indictments in the several jurisdictions he has been processed.
It has not even been a day yet and I already see a lot of people (most of them republicans) doing a very serious deal of this. (Well,.it is indeed serious and historical).
Even if the supreme court of the USA was not so obviously in favor of conservative ideas, it would take a lot of courage to rule against a leading candidate in a case like this, which could easily create civil unrest and get people killed.
Whatever happens, the people of the United States needs to wield their vote with wisdom.


Is not that some states will try, it is that the motions are already filled in many states:
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Lawsuits challenging Trump's candidacy have been filed in more than 25 states ahead of the 2024 election,

I said that a few posts ago, it will end up in the SCOTUS, but you are too convinced that they are going to be ok with Trump running. My view:

Firstly, judges do not like to be cowed, threatened, called names and told what to do - and Trump has been doing a lot of that. In SCOTUS their appointments are for life, that gives them certain freedom.

Secondly, judges are about the law and order. In US an even in places that are not democratic... it is just why they are there. I am not sure how keen they are on letting a murdering mob sent to the Capitol be equal to nothing. If Trump is allowed, I do not see why the next ones cannot be anyone unhappy with the next election.

Lastly, there are many judges appointed by Bush, one by Biden, another by Obama,...  I would not take for granted that the Bush appointed ones will support Trumps behaviour -  and they are going to be deciding as the Trump appointees and the dems appointees are pretty much balanced. They could decide to close the Trump era and free the Republicans from his dictatorship - I am sure Trump is not the Bush's preferred candidate.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-04-20/george-w-bush-condemns-the-trump-era-republican-party

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The former president didn’t criticize his successor by name, but he said in a rare interview that his party has become ‘isolationist, protectionist and, to a certain extent, nativist.’

There seems to be an interest in equalling mobs to democracy and freedom to the "right to ignore the laws". This is the product of years of mis-education and frustration with the system that is failing many people in the US (Yes BA, that's you dumbass, the frustrated and mis-educated best example).

522  Economy / Gambling / Re: tell me the best online casino on: December 21, 2023, 12:32:09 AM
@OP, you're in the likes of holy grail of the crypto casinos and this section, you just go outside of this thread and browse through the different announcement threads of the casinos that you're seeing. There are a lot of choice to be honest and you can easily figure them out on which is a good one, and which not. Basing your choice from the experience of everyone, then you can also refer to the people's thought and by how they've experienced with the mentioned casinos. I personally have used a lot of them and giving the hint about the popular ones, you can't get wrong with them. They're all reputed and have been in the test of time and that's why they're all good to be considered by you. But, don't get also me wrong with my suggestion about the popular ones because it might vary from your opinion and to mine or this is why you're asking right? Well, that's how it is and you see the topics out there with the announcement threads, you figure them out which is good and bad.
I think that finding the best casino option for yourself is quite a difficult task, simply because as you play and gain experience, your emotions from the game and often your passion for a particular game and a particular casino change. 
And the interests of experienced players may, on average, not at all correspond to the needs of beginners in gambling.  Therefore, it can be quite interesting to trace the chain of evolution of a player’s gaming addictions.  Often, it seems to me, there are unexpected changes in this chain.  But probably few players remember how their preferences in games changed and therefore they give advice based on their current interests in specific games and casinos.  And since all gamblers have different experience and level of play, their advice can be very different.  Someone, of course, takes into account their personal history of participation in gambling, but this is not all of those who give advice. 
So you should pay attention to the advice, but at the same time take into account these listed circumstances.

It is a very personal decision as most people here have already said. You may want KYC or not, you may want specific games, you may decide that you will go for the bonus rather than for games or a better interface. Most sites and casinos that are on this forum and advertise are in general good sites, you can check the reputation and some have been there quite a while. Your choice.
523  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: December 20, 2023, 09:25:15 PM

You can certainly disprove the second, unless the missile had multiple warheads or was able to divide in 10.


Or maybe it was not in combat ready position, but stored somewhere

[link to propaganda removed]



Very unlikely that a whole battery is being transported in one go, with a full set of ammo. Not even at the beginning of the war they were so crazy. But so many Patriots have been "destroyed" by "precision TwitterX strikes" that you are probably the only one left giving any credit without any proof, even some satellite pictures or a distant youtube. Particularly from this guy who posts videos in 90% of the shit he publishes.

But the problem now is the Republicans in US blocking the aid. Ukraine needs ammo now. History will be a harsh judge of the Republicans - it is not the first time a party disappears into history and they are doing lots and lots of really shitty stuff to the few allies of the US remaining.
524  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Publicly held Trump trials - ongoing on: December 20, 2023, 07:49:00 PM
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All you need to do is read the Constitution, the laws, and the court cases, to see this. Of course, simply reading that stuff doesn't do anything. You have to think. And like many Americans, the evidence is that you are finding that thinking is difficult for you.

...

Hey BA, look, someone in Colorado must have read the US Constitution...
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/19/politics/takeaways-trump-colorado-supreme-court-14th-amendment-insurrection/index.html

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Colorado’s historic ruling that Trump is ineligible for office based on 14th Amendment’s ‘insurrectionist ban’

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The Colorado Supreme Court made history Tuesday with an unprecedented, freeze-in-your-tracks ruling that former President Donald Trump is constitutionally ineligible to run in 2024 because the 14th Amendment’s ban on insurrectionists holding public office covers his conduct on January 6, 2021.

[...]

All eyes are now on the US Supreme Court — which is posed to play a major role in the 2024 election as it grapples with a series of major Trump —related cases.


So Trump is not, as of now, in the primaries for Colorado, which is not that much... except that similar cases are filled all over the US.




525  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: December 19, 2023, 09:38:57 PM
Ukraine has the image of fighting courageously against the greatest threat to participative regimes currently (yes that Ruzzzzia). They are not only "beggars" they are the people who can hold the Orcs in the frontline - I do not like to put it this way, but they are fucking heroes, while the rest of the world is just watching the game from the side-lines. Paying money is nothing compared to paying life.
This was last season. And now, after the failure of the counter-offensive, Ukraine has turned into a loser beggar that no one wants to deal with. And next season you will probably learn to spell the word “Russia” correctly, or even start singing “Ave, Putin!” in the morning. Grin


As per you choice ... yes I am sure you think is better to surrender. You have already done it:

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It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. - Krishnamurti
Stop your empty moralizing....

Why? Am I getting to close to your true self? do not worry, you have been born in the wrong place, that's all - maybe.

Look, sovereign states do not need to do as they are told. I know that is difficult for you to understand.

By the way, speaking of getting close, it seems that a few bombers have gotten to close to a few Ukrainian drones. Or maybe it has been the other way around and the drones got to close to the Ruzzian bombers... Anyway, it happened in Morozovsk airport and it seems the bombers won - they intercepted all the drones by putting themselves in the middle of the drones' trajectories.

Unfortunaltely for Ruzzia, you got 12 more or less modern planes less now.



Its also said that single Russian hypersonic missile caused 1.5 billion USD damage and destroyed full year production of USA
rockets for Patriot system

I can't confirm either story, though

You can certainly disprove the second, unless the missile had multiple warheads or was able to divide in 10.

 I have not seen more that a couple of pictures on the "story" I am mentioning - just google it, so ... yes it is fine not to believe it. Honestly, it does not matter if you believe it or not, the planes will still not fly even if you firmly believe they do. There may be satellite confirmation, or not, it does not matter either.
526  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Javier Milei wins presidency in Argentina on: December 19, 2023, 01:03:48 PM
Let things be solved in such a way that people are unable to find anything to protest about unless his policy is misunderstood or outrightly hated, in which case the protest will be shortened or legally stopped for being unreasonable or done for no justifiable reason.
In merit-based system, the right heads in government institutions/organizations can actually turn things around for good if provided the needed support. Bloated workforce is one of issues the heads could effectively tackled.
Depending wholly on profit-driven so-called private sector does not work. There will always be some sort of interventions from governments in system that's becoming immoral to make sure everyone has enough of the good things of life they need.

This is an opportunity to let the world know that libertarianism is worth considering and can actually work if done right.



You are not very familiar with Argentina, are you?

Milei speaks of liberty, but he is not a libertarian.

The interesting thing is that most folks seem to enjoy the ideals that Milei stands for.
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I believe Milie is still better than the previous administrations Argentina had and there must be a very important movement of the political left to discredit Javier before he can even reach the first 100 days of government. Regardless of what one supports, I am still skeptical he will be able to do miracles and handover a rescued country by the end of his first term. The kind of rescue plan Argentina needs is one which takes several years of economical discipline and several serious administrations.

Of course, Argentina under "Peronists" has been creating and promoting groups (e.g. unions) and keeping the provinces happy at the cost of increasing the debt and creating a subsidized economy. As I said in previous post, there is no way you can remove the handouts and transfers without making lots of these groups very angry. And make no mistake, these are powerful groups that will act with all the means at their disposal to stop reform.

For me, Milei has now to transition from the stupid dude with a chainsaw and a structural deficit of haircutting to a President -  which is much more difficult. My question is, given the stiff opposition he will get from many fronts, who is Milei going to ally with? The uber rich? The bankers? The Jews of US? The army? Who is going to be the strong arm of Milei? Who is going to be his cash cow?

Now that I think of it, the answer will be know when the official buyer of YPF (the national oil company) is known. Whoever wins it, that is Milei's puppetmaster / intimate friend /  ally.

Edited to add: Milei has signed a 27 points mega-decree that changes the governance of many aspects in Argentina. As of now, the opponents are making themselves be heard.
527  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Publicly held Trump trials - ongoing on: December 19, 2023, 12:38:26 PM
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Ammon Bundy didn't know what he was doing in court. The jury simply liked what he did in the wildlife refuge takeover. The jury freed him. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/28/us/bundy-brothers-acquitted-in-takeover-of-oregon-wildlife-refuge.html.

The jury has the authority to vote how they want regarding any case they hear... provided it is a jury based on the 6th or 7th Amendments. There is evidence of court cases all over the place, where juries even reversed the charges in some cases, so that the plaintiff had to pay the fine.

Cool


You: "juries can strike down laws"
Me: "No they can't"
You: "Juries can vote how they want"
Me: Huh


Are you confusing 'striking down a law' with jury nullification?  You know just because a guilty person is acquitted or has a hung jury doesn't mean that law they broke is struck down, right?  

Did OJs jury strike down the law that makes murder illegal?


Not at all. But you seem to be confusing what I said with both, striking down laws, and jury nullification.

If the law in a school zone is 15mph, and a driver drives through at 120mph, and a cop pulls him over and it goes to court in a jury trial, the jury can strike down the law with regard to the driver so that he gets off totally free. Generally a jury won't do this, because the jury has friends and family with kids going to the school. But they can do it if they want, even if there is no good reason. It's up to them, totally. This does not strike down the law for anybody else, however. For every other person who breaks this law, it's a totally new court case.

If, however, there are bunches of people who drive 120mph through this school zone, and the juries for most of them declare these drivers innocent, the city or state just might change the law so that the speed limit for this school zone is no longer only 15mph. The reason might be that it's an old, condemned school that is not being used, and has a chain link fence around it, and the school zone speed limit SHOULD be removed.

The point is that the jury rules in a trial-by-jury court case. In general, when they strike down a law, it's for that court case only, not for the whole country... although other court decisions might base themselves on this one to some extent.

Cool

First of all, nothing of what you says in the constitution, at most is your interpretation or something coming from some shitty YouTube channel, probably paid for by Ruzzia and what you call "strike down a law" is simply "ignoring the law" dumbass.

So I am guessing right, you are banking on a jury declaring Trump innocent because it is Trump, and that has to happen for the tens of felonies that he is now indicted for - so any future president will know that it is ok to send murdering mobs, rant about judges, ...  Trump is the example of how liberties can be abused.

And, let's not forget, calling the army to kill their own citizens protesting:

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/24/politics/bender-book-trump-milley-protests/index.html

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he top US general repeatedly pushed back on then-President Donald Trump’s argument that the military should intervene violently in order to quell the civil unrest that erupted around the country last year.

So much for liberty.
528  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: December 19, 2023, 01:41:43 AM
Ukraine has the image of fighting courageously against the greatest threat to participative regimes currently (yes that Ruzzzzia). They are not only "beggars" they are the people who can hold the Orcs in the frontline - I do not like to put it this way, but they are fucking heroes, while the rest of the world is just watching the game from the side-lines. Paying money is nothing compared to paying life.
This was last season. And now, after the failure of the counter-offensive, Ukraine has turned into a loser beggar that no one wants to deal with. And next season you will probably learn to spell the word “Russia” correctly, or even start singing “Ave, Putin!” in the morning. Grin


As per you choice ... yes I am sure you think is better to surrender. You have already done it:

Quote
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. - Krishnamurti
Stop your empty moralizing....

Why? Am I getting to close to your true self? do not worry, you have been born in the wrong place, that's all - maybe.

Look, sovereign states do not need to do as they are told. I know that is difficult for you to understand.

By the way, speaking of getting close, it seems that a few bombers have gotten to close to a few Ukrainian drones. Or maybe it has been the other way around and the drones got to close to the Ruzzian bombers... Anyway, it happened in Morozovsk airport and it seems the bombers won - they intercepted all the drones by putting themselves in the middle of the drones' trajectories.

Unfortunaltely for Ruzzia, you got 12 more or less modern planes less now.

529  Other / Politics & Society / Wartog defence channel removed from Youtube on false pretense on: December 18, 2023, 12:00:11 AM
To everyone and in case someone can make the case to Youtube, yet another channel providing information on Ukraine has been taken down by youtube, when the last Ruzzian trolling campaign is still fresh on a fake reporting of a multitude of channels on "copyright infringements". Youtube has to go a long way in creating a balanced environment for people who are reporting accurately.
530  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Publicly held Trump trials - ongoing on: December 17, 2023, 04:18:05 PM
So, if Trump wanted to avoid being criminally charged, he should have switched the court over to the Common Law side. The way to do it is to stand as a man, present, and not represented (no attorneys)... and make the statement that any man/woman who has been wronged by him should get on the stand, show the wrong, and "I will compensate him/her." So, it is Trumps fault for not swinging the whole thing into common law, and holding it there.

This doesn't work.   It's been tried.

The judge would just deny his stupid request like all the stupid requests he's made before.  All the appellate courts would decline to intervene, including SCOTUS.  If your theory worked, nobody would ever be prosecuted by DOJ for breaking federal laws. It wouldn't be a secret nobody knew about.  It would just take one successful case, and then everyone would do it.
The reason it doesn't work most of the time is that the so-called defendant didn't go far enough. A man/woman can't accept being the defendant, and stand unrepresented at the same time. The two are contradictory. But that's what most of them try to do. So, most of them lose by contradicting themselves.




Thank you for proving my point... well, several of my points. You forgot the part of my quote which says, "... with relation to the court circumstances to which they allow themselves to be called." It's only when a large number of juries strike down a law that SCOTUS will be called to strike down the law for the whole country. Other than that, the law is stricken for the court case to which the jury has been called, and so strikes it.

So how about some examples of a jury  "striking down a law".  

That's not how it works.

Congress (or state lawmakers) make laws.  If they want to get rid of a law, they have to pass a bill,

Judges interpret the laws.

Executive branch enforces the laws....wait you learn better from youtube videos...I have two perfect videos for you, please watch:  

3 Ring Government - Schoolhouse Rock
I'm just a bill - Schoolhouse Rock


Ammon Bundy didn't know what he was doing in court. The jury simply liked what he did in the wildlife refuge takeover. The jury freed him. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/28/us/bundy-brothers-acquitted-in-takeover-of-oregon-wildlife-refuge.html.

The jury has the authority to vote how they want regarding any case they hear... provided it is a jury based on the 6th or 7th Amendments. There is evidence of court cases all over the place, where juries even reversed the charges in some cases, so that the plaintiff had to pay the fine.

Cool


You: "juries can strike down laws"
Me: "No they can't"
You: "Juries can vote how they want"
Me: Huh


Are you confusing 'striking down a law' with jury nullification?  You know just because a guilty person is acquitted or has a hung jury doesn't mean that law they broke is struck down, right? 

Did OJs jury strike down the law that makes murder illegal?



Yes, that is what he is doing.

In reality, dumbass BA thinks that a popular jury with 12 people will just say that Trump is innocent just because it is Trump. If that's where all the hopes of these people lie as of now, it is certainly a sign of how badly things are going for Trump in the legal front.

Anyway, in the end Trump may end up having his fate in the hands of the Supreme Court, some of them appointed by him. I think they may try to find some fine grain justification to say he is all right. I wonder how creative they may become on such justification.
531  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: December 17, 2023, 03:52:16 PM
Ukraine doesn’t produce artillery shells at all and spends 5,000 shells a day, doesn’t anything bother you about this strategy? Grin

Both of those statements are wrong.
Ukraine produce artillery shells, but it's tiny numbers, maybe up to 1000-2000, while they're using similar amounts just in one day.
BTW, there isn't much talk about it, but South Korea suppoied more shells to Ukraine than all EU countries combined. Impressive from Korean perspective, sad from European:
https://m-en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20231205000300315
Russia producing 85 000 shells is impressive, but when you're spending whole month production in 4-5 days, that's probably not something to brag about.
What a nice attempt at substitution of concepts. Okay, I'll clarify. Ukraine is in dire need of 155 mm NATO standard artillery shells; their production in Ukraine is zero.

South Korea is armed to their teeth. Simply by sending whatever is about to date-expire is already a huge help. Your point about 155MM being is short supply is wrong, there is plenty, it just may be that countries around the world are not going to provide 100% of it to Ukraine.
Perhaps I will reveal amazing news for you, but the entire Ukrainian counter-offensive became possible largely thanks to the supply of artillery shells from South Korea. Of course, South Korea could put more, but it has a direct and obvious threat in the form of North Korea, so South Korea is forced to think first about its own security.

So, Ukraine is in need of nearly anything that shoots or explodes. Shells, planes, air defence, tanks, BMP, IFVs, Howis, missiles, ships,... It would seem however that they are perfectly able to destroy mechanised attacks and to rain drones or cluster as needed. Yes, some Ruzzian attacks advance 50 meter, 100 meter,... but you look at the videos and aerial recon material and you will see a heap of ZZbodies and plenty of rusty iron destroyed.
Of course, Ukraine needs both, and the third, and the fifth, and the tenth. Ukraine has already become fully entrenched in its image as a global beggar. Grin

But look, the fact is that aid is blocked in the US an EU, but it will eventually be unblocked. It is billions in help and it is quite a decent military equipment. You now have to place your hopes in that not arriving to the frontline.
Yep, after the New Year, a golden rain of Western financial and military assistance will immediately fall on Ukraine again. Or not. Personally, I would prefer the former, defeating a weak enemy who is unable to fight does not bring much honor.

Well, I guess North Korea would need to be equally cautious then.

Ukraine has the image of fighting courageously against the greatest threat to participative regimes currently (yes that Ruzzzzia). They are not only "beggars" they are the people who can hold the Orcs in the frontline - I do not like to put it this way, but they are fucking heroes, while the rest of the world is just watching the game from the side-lines. Paying money is nothing compared to paying life.

As per you choice ... yes I am sure you think is better to surrender. You have already done it:

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It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. - Krishnamurti



532  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: December 17, 2023, 10:00:22 AM
Ukraine doesn’t produce artillery shells at all and spends 5,000 shells a day, doesn’t anything bother you about this strategy? Grin

Both of those statements are wrong.
Ukraine produce artillery shells, but it's tiny numbers, maybe up to 1000-2000, while they're using similar amounts just in one day.
BTW, there isn't much talk about it, but South Korea suppoied more shells to Ukraine than all EU countries combined. Impressive from Korean perspective, sad from European:
https://m-en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20231205000300315
Russia producing 85 000 shells is impressive, but when you're spending whole month production in 4-5 days, that's probably not something to brag about.
What a nice attempt at substitution of concepts. Okay, I'll clarify. Ukraine is in dire need of 155 mm NATO standard artillery shells; their production in Ukraine is zero.

South Korea is armed to their teeth. Simply by sending whatever is about to date-expire is already a huge help. Your point about 155MM being is short supply is wrong, there is plenty, it just may be that countries around the world are not going to provide 100% of it to Ukraine.

So, Ukraine is in need of nearly anything that shoots or explodes. Shells, planes, air defence, tanks, BMP, IFVs, Howis, missiles, ships,... It would seem however that they are perfectly able to destroy mechanised attacks and to rain drones or cluster as needed. Yes, some Ruzzian attacks advance 50 meter, 100 meter,... but you look at the videos and aerial recon material and you will see a heap of ZZbodies and plenty of rusty iron destroyed.

But look, the fact is that aid is blocked in the US an EU, but it will eventually be unblocked. It is billions in help and it is quite a decent military equipment. You now have to place your hopes in that not arriving to the frontline.
533  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Publicly held Trump trials - ongoing on: December 16, 2023, 06:36:08 PM
But that's the kind of people you like, right? Back stabbers.

If you believed your country was still a Democracy (and you clearly don't), you'd realise the lunatic you're rooting for is the one betraying all the principles your nation was founded upon.  

You are mistaken. America is a Republic. The so-called government is the Democracy. The 6th and 7th Amendments to the Constitution allow a 12-person jury of the Republic to strike down any Government law... with relation to the court circumstances to which they allow themselves to be called.

Cool

I have told you a million times: youtube is not a credible source of information in general, but those channels that you seen to be following are probably the humour section of some short of outlet.

6th
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In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

7th
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In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

There absolutely nothing of what you say on this nor any other amendment. A jury cannot fucking "strike down" any law dumbass, much on the contrary, they have to decide on specific questions about the charges following the criteria setforth in the common law.

Go to kindergarten dumbass.

Thank you for proving my point... well, several of my points. You forgot the part of my quote which says, "... with relation to the court circumstances to which they allow themselves to be called." It's only when a large number of juries strike down a law that SCOTUS will be called to strike down the law for the whole country. Other than that, the law is stricken for the court case to which the jury has been called, and so strikes it.

You quoted it right in your quoting of the 7th Amendment, "... and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law." In other words, what the jury decides is the thing that becomes law for the case at hand... even the striking down of a Congressionally mandated law.

But that is only for, "... Suits at common law," as the 7th Amendment says. There is no common law trial for criminal cases listed in these two Amendments. So, if Trump wanted to avoid being criminally charged, he should have switched the court over to the Common Law side. The way to do it is to stand as a man, present, and not represented (no attorneys)... and make the statement that any man/woman who has been wronged by him should get on the stand, show the wrong, and "I will compensate him/her." So, it is Trumps fault for not swinging the whole thing into common law, and holding it there.

However, Even if he accepts a criminal jury trial, the decisions of the jury cannot be changed except through a proper declaration of mistrial. If the jury decided that Trump was innocent of everything, he would get off, free. It would only apply to him. The next person accused of breaking the same law(s) as Trump, would have to get his own jury, and jury decisions for himself. They might be different than in Trump's case.

Now you can see why the judge won't allow Trump a jury trial. Trump is popular enough that many juries might set him completely free. The judge is partially wrong in this. He isn't supposed to dis-allow a trial by jury, even if the defendant agrees to such, or hires attorneys, becoming a ward of the court, thereby. But nobody seems to want to take the judge to task over his failure to obey his own Rules of Court.

Cool

I have never seen such as an amount of misreading. I though you needed a brain transplant, but it is much more simple: You need to go back to kindergarten and learn what words mean. There is absolutely nothing in the text saying what you say it says, absolutely nothing. And it is also absolutely out of any legal precedent or practice anywhere - I mean anywhere in the modern world, not just the US.

By the way, you are also a complete mess on the rest, it is just to boring to even discuss.

Now, let's talk about "Nullification", which is likely to be the topic of some video you must have seen in your shitty outlets.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_nullification#:~:text=The%20decision%20stated%20that%20%22juries,permit%20of%20no%20other%20course%22.

A jury cannot "strike down" a law. The law can be nullified, but is not just 12 persons saying so, there is a whole process to it. And it is something certainly contested.

Potentially, a jury may decide not to apply a law by reasons of conscience, declaring innocent to someone who is clearly breaking the law - veeery different of removing the law altogether and even that creates all short of fairness and consistency issues between different cases.

For some people juries are fact finders, while others pretend that they are also interpreters of the law. Another topic for discussion (how can someone who has no legal background interpret the law?)

Overall, dumbass BA is banking on a jury deciding to ignore the law for Trump. But you have to understand that:

a) A jury may no consider the facts as proven an acquit OR
b) A jury may disagree with the law and acquit.

For Trump to be acquitted for (a) is a possibility, but my guess is that the case presented will be factually strong.

For Trump to be acquitted for (b) the jury has to decide that the law that does not allow to, for example, send a murdering mob to the Capitol is wrong - so it would be OK to send murdering mobs to the Capitol .... for anyone.

or they may decide that the law that says that a president can't ignore the results of an election is wrong, so ANY president can ignore ANY future election.

do you see how stupid this is dumbass?


534  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: December 15, 2023, 02:52:43 PM

You are wrong. US presidents often rise in popularity when they wage war. Ruzzia population at several levels were supportive of the war at the beginning. Wake up  and try to read some proper information - do you need more confirmation that you are NOT better informed, smarter or more moral than the rest of the users here dumbass?

By the way, it seems that quite a few incidents are ongoing with the Ruzzian civil aviation. It seems that they are "patching" here and there the components, so I would not be surprised to see metal raining from the Ruzzia skies.




Those polls are stupid anyway...they should be done in a way that answer "yes" means you immediately get
a gun and go to a trench...I bet results would be MUCH different

Sure Branko, and in an imaginary land in which that were true, there would be many less wars. But that is not the world we live in, people may vote (I mean, where they can vote, not in Ruzzia) for others less fortunate or more ambitious to go to war and they do. So polls are not stupid and the leaders of nations do understand the cover-up effect of going to war. Putin certainly knows.

Edited to add: have you seen the fireworks in Volgograd?
https://t.me/in_factum/19616
535  Economy / Gambling / Re: No KYC Crypto Casinos & Sites | NoToKYC.com | Exclusive Bonuses on: December 15, 2023, 12:19:59 AM
the thread caught my attention because I thought there are many sites without KYC, or They don't require that identification to operate, but I see that now getting a place like this is almost impossible
You are totally right.
It's almost impossible to find a crypto casino or a centralized service that will never ask you to verify your identity at some point even if they claim they won't.
Just recently, a new member complained on the scam accusation board about a casino for asking him to pass kyc after winning (obviously) although they have a huge banner on their main page stating that they are a kyc-free casino!

Finding no KYC is already difficult, I mean, finding reputable sites that have the right comments and support in the forum and we can more or less have some trust in them. The bonus is just cream of top since it is doubly beneficial to get the bonus without having to do so many explanations, proffs, etc... that sometimes are just a excuse to keep our money or keep it "in custody" for months.
536  Economy / Gambling / Re: Does anyone find the spate of online casinos a bit uninspired? on: December 15, 2023, 12:15:29 AM
Well, if you look at what's been happening around the world, you'll see that copying and pasting has become much more normal than it seems, but there are limits, of course. for example in cars, when a company like toyota makes a new car, the other competing company like ford makes a car model similar to the toyota car, it just has some differences in the design and features, but the body of the car It's the same, other companies like Mazda also copy what their competitors do and only make some changes. This happens with physical casinos, they hire the best designers to build the casino, but within the casino, the promotions, features, the way employees act are the same as in other physical casinos.

look at the cryptocurrency market for example, when they created bitcoin, copies such as litecoin soon followed, when they created anonymity altcoins such as monero, many other altcoins soon followed. When they created mixers, many mixers soon appeared that were copies. In the case of crypto casinos, it would not be any different either, because it is difficult for a new casino not to follow the standard that was created in this industry. When I talk about the standard I'm talking about a sign-up bonus, a flashy design with lots of colors and photos of athletes from many sports, so a new casino that offers slot games and sports betting, it will have a similar design to the other casinos and will offer the same things that other casinos already offer

There are not many new features to offer, now the most important thing is that the new casinos are honest, not scam casinos and at least casinos with fast support. I believe that when we see a casino with a support phone number that supports many major languages and that casino has a physical headquarters in a country, then we will be seeing true innovation in the world of online casinos

Yeah, is not just in gambling, even in music lots is made using algos that take some from here, some from there and make "new song" that sound just too much the same as older successful ones. However, there is a caveat in just copying because if they do not know why they do it and why it works they will not understan why it may stop to be good or how to improve it.
537  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Passionate gambler keeps the gambling boards rolling even after retirements on: December 15, 2023, 12:12:48 AM
Pretty awesome way to giving back to the community, that must've a lot of money that he's got from his job that he doesn't know what to do with it and so he just goes for this kind of stuff, doing competitions and such. That's something that I aspire to be one day, when I finally have a great career or maybe even just retire with a lot of money and I hope that I'm not the only one that aspires to be that guy because those competitions seems pretty awesome to me.
It is commonly said here in my country that when you put a sugar inside the mouth of a child, he or she does not spit it out, this I believe is exactly the case here, I read the op and I myself too look forward to the day I wil become like that man being discussed, but another thing here is that, we all know it's easy for people to see a rich and wealthy man and want to become like him, but we usually care not to know what they did go through before he arrived at that enviable position.

This is why i usually tell people to work hard to create their kind of wealth and riches, instead of wanting to become another person.

And by the way, I am finding it pretty difficult to believe that what the man of doing can be referred to as gambling, he's simply hosting a competition and not gambling, for the fact that the participants are not brining any stake to the table makes the whole thing or event a competition not gambling.

A quite interesting case here. I am not very inclined to causes and I mostly think that people who are do think of it either as a war of clearing some imaginary sins or to thank some imaginary entity that has "blessed them or, in some cases, they feel really good when they help others because somehow they feel unfairly fortunate. Charity is fine anyway, whatever the reason, because it helps the community equally.
538  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Publicly held Trump trials - ongoing on: December 14, 2023, 09:29:56 PM
But that's the kind of people you like, right? Back stabbers.

If you believed your country was still a Democracy (and you clearly don't), you'd realise the lunatic you're rooting for is the one betraying all the principles your nation was founded upon.  

You are mistaken. America is a Republic. The so-called government is the Democracy. The 6th and 7th Amendments to the Constitution allow a 12-person jury of the Republic to strike down any Government law... with relation to the court circumstances to which they allow themselves to be called.

Cool

I have told you a million times: youtube is not a credible source of information in general, but those channels that you seen to be following are probably the humour section of some short of outlet.

6th
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In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

7th
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In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

There absolutely nothing of what you say on this nor any other amendment. A jury cannot fucking "strike down" any law dumbass, much on the contrary, they have to decide on specific questions about the charges following the criteria setforth in the common law.

Go to kindergarten dumbass.
539  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: December 13, 2023, 11:47:33 PM
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The war is not popular in any major country. Do you think the Ukrainian people like it? It wasn't easy for the millions who migrated out of Ukraine just to get away from war. They would have rather stayed home in peace.

But just to show everybody where you are, you seem to like the war, just like your buddy Zelensky... along with the ruling elite of the world and their military war machines. Kill off the few Ukrainians that are left, before they simply fail, and Russia is shown to be the good guy by going in and helping them out with reparations.

Governments are made ups of supposed leaders. They are not made up of the people/citizens. Most of the citizens don't want war. It's the leaders that want war.

Wake up.

Cool

You are wrong. US presidents often rise in popularity when they wage war. Ruzzia population at several levels were supportive of the war at the beginning. Wake up  and try to read some proper information - do you need more confirmation that you are NOT better informed, smarter or more moral than the rest of the users here dumbass?

By the way, it seems that quite a few incidents are ongoing with the Ruzzian civil aviation. It seems that they are "patching" here and there the components, so I would not be surprised to see metal raining from the Ruzzia skies.


Well, make up your mind. Either you believe Russian news, or you don't. Since you seem to believe it in this post ^^, you should really consider believing that Russia is trying to liberate Ukraine from US domination, like they have said.


Cool

You can't read either? Where in my post does it say that this information if from Ruzzian sources dumbass?

https://aviationsourcenews.com/analysis/11-air-incidents-in-russia-in-eight-days-civilian-crash-inevitable/

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Following its audit of Russia’s flight safety last September, The International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) issued it with “red flag” status, ranking it alongside Bhutan, The Democratic Republic of Congo, and Liberia as one of the four most dangerous countries to fly in the world.

“Unfortunately, the ICAO red flag status is not just a political gesture as many believe,” one aviation expert told Novaya-Europe, asking to remain anonymous. “It reflects how things really are.”

The ICAO is an international organisation that is only about preserving the reputation of the air transportation industry and is quite strict (in general) regarding the safety of flights to make sure people know what they are doing when taking a plane. In general, takes a neutral approach (not always) caring only about following regulations on safety.

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What is the significant safety concern of ICAO Russia?
Russia's actions, including illegally double-registering aircraft stolen from European leasing companies and operating aircraft on international routes without a valid safety certificate, led to ICAO issuing a Serious Safety Concern (SSC) against Russia, declaring aviation in Russia to be fundamentally unsafe

Now, this does mention a Ruzzian source, see the difference?

https://www.newsweek.com/russian-plane-malfunctions-2023-tripled-western-sanctions-1850780

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There have been a vast number of cases in recent months of Russian domestic passenger planes making emergency landings due to technical issues, driven by a lack of spare parts.

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According to Russian Transport Minister Vitaly Savelyev, the country has lost 76 passenger jets since February 2022, due to Western sanctions.

I will not quote the Ukrainian sources that say they hacked the databases and found nearly 200 incidents, etc...

I guess sanctions do reach parts of the economy.

540  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: December 13, 2023, 04:15:37 PM
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Glad we're at least partially on the same page. Only i don't think journalists have anything to do with the planning or the outcome whatsoever, they're just mostly pushing whichever propaganda and they're usually a good indicator of whats to come as they're typically used to set the mood/pivot the population before official announcements. As for the generals, the pentagon and NATO overall, either not sending enough weapons to win was just a silly coincidence/misunderstanding/miscalculation and only now, after almost two years of war generals have to make a decision as you claim, or that decision has already been made a while ago and those hundreds of generals get their funding from (career) politicians which are mostly interested in keeping the power or enough popularity to get re/elected. For the upside Putin having a sudden heart attack and Russia falling apart is a huge upside, Russia had control of those Ukrainian bases which are "closer to the EU" all the way up to 2014, and no one really cared much, so why not try it. Now that we see that it didn't work, oh well not much of a downside. But keeping this going has a real downside of Europe tearing apart, and politicians just loosing their jobs if they continue to vote for unpopular war that's only becoming even more unpopular how can they send more than before if now only 18% of population believe US is not sending enough.

The media push an agenda, which does not necessarily mean is a anti-Ruzzian agenda. I am sure many believe that it would be much better to be cozy with Ruzzia. My view, as said many times, is that Ruzzia wants to get a grip on Europe and it needs to stop somewhere - e.g. right here, right now. Ukrainians are fighting because they believe would be better off without Moscow.

The war is not popular in Ruzzia. I saw the statistics recently in the Economist. The ones that support the war are the richest elites, they are making a lot. All the rest of the population would rather not have it.

On governments in Europe ... I think Europe is fully convinced of supporting Ukraine. On the US government, we will see, because even if Trump gets an "out of jail" card in March, his "ending the war in 48 hours" means the carrot... but make no mistake: there is also a stick attached to it if Putin finds the offer unacceptable.

The war is not popular in any major country. Do you think the Ukrainian people like it? It wasn't easy for the millions who migrated out of Ukraine just to get away from war. They would have rather stayed home in peace.

But just to show everybody where you are, you seem to like the war, just like your buddy Zelensky... along with the ruling elite of the world and their military war machines. Kill off the few Ukrainians that are left, before they simply fail, and Russia is shown to be the good guy by going in and helping them out with reparations.

Governments are made ups of supposed leaders. They are not made up of the people/citizens. Most of the citizens don't want war. It's the leaders that want war.

Wake up.

Cool

You are wrong. US presidents often rise in popularity when they wage war. Ruzzia population at several levels were supportive of the war at the beginning. Wake up  and try to read some proper information - do you need more confirmation that you are NOT better informed, smarter or more moral than the rest of the users here dumbass?

By the way, it seems that quite a few incidents are ongoing with the Ruzzian civil aviation. It seems that they are "patching" here and there the components, so I would not be surprised to see metal raining from the Ruzzia skies.

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