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541  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Anthony Joshua vs. Francis Ngannou - March 9 on: January 09, 2024, 09:53:42 AM
We can also speculate on how much AJ and Ngannou are going to earn for this fight Cheesy Does anyone knows the numbers? Definitely gonna be lower than Ngannou vs Tyson, but as the even is going to be in Saudi Arabia again, we might see some nice zeroes Cheesy Btw funny how fighters negotiate for months and years about their opponents and paycheck, and now AJ fights in less than 3 months again. Ngannou has more time to prepare for it.

Good question mate, so I did try to search for it, reports says that he earn $10 million in the Fury fight. But if you think that he will earn lower, you are wrong,

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Ngannou's reputation in boxing is growing, leading to expectations of a $20 million pay-day for his fight with Anthony Joshua, not including pay-per-view sales and sponsorships.
 Anthony Joshua is also expecting a significant pay-day, with rumours suggesting he may demand the same $50 million that Fury earned for his fight with Ngannou. Both fighters' earnings are expected to match the magnitude of the occasion.

https://www.givemesport.com/anthony-joshua-vs-francis-ngannou-estimated-fight-purses/

So Ngannou is the real winner here, after he goes to boxing, his 1st fight alone give him his biggest paycheck.

And then we expect him getting more against AJ in the Middle East as the Saudi's is willing to shell out those oil money in boxing right now.
542  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Anthony Joshua vs. Francis Ngannou - March 9 on: January 08, 2024, 10:46:13 PM
Dana White is getting desperate right now, and he looks more stupid with every new fight of Ngannou.
Francis was so scared that he is now fighting with the biggest fighters in the world and he is doing it in boxing Grin
Against Tyson Fury I thought Francis didnt have a chance, but after I watched the last fight I think he can do even more against Anthony Joshua.
I cant wait to see this fight, but even more I want him to see back in MMA.

Joshua vs Ngannou wouldn't be any different from Fury Fight but i think Francis will win this time. AJ was not a big puncher when he was exposed by Ruiz. since this is happening in Saudi again then Francis will be pocketing millions again.

His chances are high because of his power and we all know that AJ chin was broken already by Ruiz and exposed it and now AJ can't take punishment or getting hit in the chin by powerful punchers like in this case, Ngannou.

Maybe AJ will try to run and cover, but if this fight goes to distance, he might not have that stamina just like in the Usyk fight wherein we see him getting tired in the championship rounds and Usyk stealing that important rounds. But if Ngannou like in the Fury fight, hit AJ early, this fight might not go to distance.

He will certainly respect the power of Ngannou since he already witness what he can do. This will be tough for Ngannou to be honest, so I hope we won't get too hype with his 2nd fight in boxing after his impressive performance, because if Fury didn't make it serious, then I would say that Ngannou is in big trouble here. AJ is also a knockout artist, but he cannot be too reskless as that has been his weakness in the fights that he losses, he shoulld learn from his mistake.

I think we are already hype and on the bandwagon of Francis after that great performance against Fury. And even if he lost that fight, it gain him a great deal of boxing fans and so as underdog, he could get a huge money bet.

I see this fight like AJ vs Andy Ruiz, that if AJ will not be careful, he will end up losing by KO.

Or even worst, Francis power is really raw and just like what you said, even if he is careful, if Francis can find that small opening like in the Fury fight and time Joshua and hit him when he is not expecting, Ngannou will win by KO.
543  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 'Attack on Bitcoin’ Claims Circulate as Transaction Fees Climb Higher on: January 08, 2024, 10:18:46 PM
Their is something I understand in this drama of bitcoin high transactions fees that we experienced now, but it's obvious that anytime bitcoin price is going up alot of people would like to exchange and make a profit because their mindset always being that the increment will not stay long and die off, so therefore the congestion is being that it follows the increment and some times is not caused by miners but many of us even hope that miners is the caused of unconfirmed bitcoin transaction or makes the congestion of bitcoin that warrant the high fee we experience.

I wouldn't call it a drama though, fees are supposedly low before this whole ordinal, BRC-20 exploit on the code and then causing the fees to go up that majority of us are complaining now. So before that, we can transact with at least 1 sat/vB.

But then when someone see a loophole of the code itself and then advantage of it and think that he is doing good cause, everything was broken.

Now it's on the 150's sat/vB again, in the last couple of days it did go down a bit, not much but manageable to some of us.
544  Economy / Speculation / Re: Short term corrections could be detrimental. on: January 08, 2024, 09:48:23 PM
Although am quite certain about the bullish market season of 2024, just after the halving expected to happen, it is to note that altcoins and shitcoins have been dumping hard recently and every one investing in them should be careful not to make serious losses.

What does altcoin has something to do with the halving? they have been dumping hard because that's how it is, majority of them are being used as a pump and dump schemes. And if I'm not mistaken, pump and dump groups are still around and maybe their numbers are still growing up to this day.

I am very certain about the bullish market season after the halving, and as such my advice to any true crypto/BTC investor who may become millionaires in the next 12-18 months, would be to hold tight and not let any short term corrections stop them or put them out of the market until the duration of their holdings is complete.

What are your thoughts?

Why not just go long for Bitcoin or even those strong altcoins and then see how it goes. I know that there are short term speculators, but it's not going to be for everyone as this game is full of emotions and so it's just better to accumulate as much as you can HODL and then don't speculate short term?
545  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Woes of gambling on: January 08, 2024, 08:48:59 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

It's what we call "house edge", thus, that's what you basically describe, and it varies game to game. Worst game that someone can play is slot machine, but it's the most popular games whether online or offline and this is where many people lost their money to begin with. However, if you are not that addict and play for some fun, it doesn't matter though, as it is also part of human nature as your put it in your argument.

But if you are thinking to always make money when gambling? it's wrong mindset and we have discussed it here many times already. Just play what you can afford to lose and again, if you are lucky enough then you might win but it's not going to be like every time you are going to play.
546  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 08, 2024, 10:44:37 AM
Here is the video of the Ortiz vs Lawson,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaaSIvClFWc

I don't know, but it seems that Tony Weeks has stop this fight early? What are your thoughts?

Obviously, Ortiz has just started to get hot as he was out for the last 17 months and maybe getting a feel of it again. But Weeks for me stop it prematurely, Lawson is not hurt maybe he is but his legs is still there.

There was a lot of controversy surrounding this fight because of the early stoppage. Tony Weeks has had some questionable moments before like when he allowed Andre Ward to low blow Sergey Kovalev multiple times which led to a TKO. He also stepped in too early when Rolly Romero was losing on the scorecards but he was gifted a stoppage win against Ismael Barroso. It can't be a coincidence that all these controversial stoppages always favor the A-side fighter.

Was also shocked of the early stoppage but I think Tony Weeks did the right thing. Not sure of this but I have read somewhere that if a fighter won't retaliate on his opponent for six seconds then the referee has to step in and stop the fight. But in this case, I think Lawson was just busy defending and not seem to be hurt at any moment, that's where the controversy sets in.

Ok, Tony Weeks has step up and says that he stop the fight because prior to the actual fight, Lawson has been cleared obviously and they get a second opinion and let the fight go as schedule (maybe they don't want another delay for Ortiz).

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“Another doctor was brought in and gave him the same examination and he tested negative for the aneurysm, so they cleared him to fight.”

The wild claim from the referee was denied by Eric Gomez of Golden Boy Boxing promotions.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/boxing/boxing-referees-shocking-prefight-brain-aneurysm-claim-after-tszyu-rivals-win-rocks-boxing/news-story/bdb1c17960bfeae29761d4a9e12ba926

So perhaps he just want to promote the boxer and who knows who are telling the truth. But at least he take precautions, however this will not sit with the fans and organizations for sure.
547  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Effortlessly promoting Bitcoin, raising the curiosity of none bitcoin ethusiast on: January 08, 2024, 10:21:01 AM
As much as I want to promote Bitcoin on social media with my friends, I take care of myself because of the cases about $5 wrench attacks. It's okay to promote it to your actual friends but sometimes, you need to put boundary on whom you're going to tell it because you don't know some of the friends on your social media have been tracking your move and might go against you and will come by to take your Bitcoin. Take it for these examples:


It's all evolving, I mean in the beginning , nobody wants bitcoin and I think everything started in 2017 when we have a bullish run up to almost $20k and everyone though, hmm, we can make money out of it.

And so criminals whether online or offline has a field day hunting those bitcoin enthusiast, rob them or their hard earn Bitcoin. That's why it's no longer to talk about Bitcoin in public to non-coiners as someone might be eaves dropping and then will follow you at home and uses that $5 wrench attack as we are now in their radar.
548  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II on: January 07, 2024, 01:32:10 PM
Or Mayweather will not pursue it. If they fight I do hope they'll fight their might considering many has been awaiting this for years already especially when they haven't retired from the boxing yet and for sure the excitement was still there but most was really into the intensity of the match and for sure if they fight again it wouldn't be there considering it's just an exhibition.

Still going to be for fun and entertainment as Mayweather is not willing to put his boxing records in the line. So he will pursue this for the money obvious as others have said. But for fans, we can still some excitement in this fight as we wanted to see a rematch that never happen and this is the closest that we might see them again in the ring although it might not be competitive if this is a professional fight and maybe there is a championship belt in the line.

As for the clinch and dodge style of Mayweather, we are already used to that kind of fight from him. Others might argue that it's a effective method for him and no one has crack the riddle of his defense, his Philly defense and then his counter punching.
549  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Manipulation / ETF's on: January 07, 2024, 10:56:20 AM
I can only feel it will cause volatility in the short term before the news and after the news, but in the long term we still have many other things to see about the possibility of all acceptance of bitcoin. The SEC may exert their power, but they are not the sole controllers and given the nature of bitcoin it is here to stay. I remember the "Tulip Syndrome" that was gradually forgotten when we had to be realistic that with bitcoin it was in a completely different state, and the comparison no longer applies much to that.

To be honest, I don't think that Bitcoin can even be compare to the Tulip Mania before. It was really a bubble and so just matter of time before it will blew up and bubble being burst.

This market's scale is still too small, those who come early always keep their opportunities and also take risks, but anyway, as someone who has absolute faith in bitcoin, I expect there will be more and more large organizations pay more attention to bitcoin.

I think it's big enough to accommodate institutional money and retail investors. And I don't think that someone can manipulate the price before or even the approval of Spot Bitcoin ETF. Investors are too much for that right now, we will call it when we see that there are entities from behind trying to control the market. And I do think that the market is going to mature once we see the first Bitcoin ETF approval regardless of who is is going to be.
550  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Anthony Joshua vs. Francis Ngannou - March 9 on: January 07, 2024, 09:53:22 AM
Dana White is getting desperate right now, and he looks more stupid with every new fight of Ngannou.
Francis was so scared that he is now fighting with the biggest fighters in the world and he is doing it in boxing Grin
Against Tyson Fury I thought Francis didnt have a chance, but after I watched the last fight I think he can do even more against Anthony Joshua.
I cant wait to see this fight, but even more I want him to see back in MMA.

Joshua vs Ngannou wouldn't be any different from Fury Fight but i think Francis will win this time. AJ was not a big puncher when he was exposed by Ruiz. since this is happening in Saudi again then Francis will be pocketing millions again.

His chances are high because of his power and we all know that AJ chin was broken already by Ruiz and exposed it and now AJ can't take punishment or getting hit in the chin by powerful punchers like in this case, Ngannou.

Maybe AJ will try to run and cover, but if this fight goes to distance, he might not have that stamina just like in the Usyk fight wherein we see him getting tired in the championship rounds and Usyk stealing that important rounds. But if Ngannou like in the Fury fight, hit AJ early, this fight might not go to distance.
551  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 07, 2024, 09:13:48 AM

And it's all promotion for Casimero to call Inoue, and I think we will not be tired of at least waiting for this fight to happen. Or at least at some point in the future, when Casimero is still at least in his peak, this fight should be made. For sure there will be enough money to generate here specially if the fight is going to be in the US.

Casimero though is not getting any younger, he is in his mid 30's if I'm not mistaken and maybe just one fight we might see him on a decline. But Inoue has other targets, Neri first before Casimero and others can get their chances against the Monster this year.

That is why many are pushing this fight and mostly the promoters are reassuring that this fight will take fruition, for sure John Riel Casimero is really excited he really wants to fight Naoya Inoue for sure, well, even though Casimero doesn't do much against Naoya Inoue's training partner for sure what a boxer know that he can really defeat Inoue then in his mind he really can defeat him, for sure Casimero is really confident that he will win this, and for sure he got a solid trust in him, so why not make this fight happen,

As fans we can also push this fight as much as we want, still up to the promoters to sit down and talk and if this fight make sense specially if there is huge money in the table for everyone and they are satisfied, then it can be made.

Nevertheless, as I have said, Neri will get the first dibs, or we might see Casimero going against rank fighters first because he will have his chance against Inoue. So there's still opportunity for us fans to see this fight, if not this year, then we will have to wait.
552  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your gambling life could affect your relatives lifes. on: January 07, 2024, 08:34:20 AM
I have come across Local gamblers who are addicted to gambling and had ruined their selves by themselves til they ran bankrupt yet they borrows money to gamble at all means even While being indebted.

I think it's no secret that if you are out of control of your gambling habits and you don't have the means to pay the people that you loan for, obviously as some point in time when the people that you borrowed money from are your relatives, your relationships will be affected if you don't pay them on time.

So it may haunt you for the rest of your life if you don't pay them. Or at least decide when to quit and stop gambling for good. Maybe some of us have been in this kind of situation before, and maybe we did get out of our addiction and mend our relationships with our family members. But there could still be knee deep with debts and loans from their gambling addiction and can't get out.
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554  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think gamblers do retired betting gambles on: January 05, 2024, 11:09:55 PM
One day I saw an old man of seventy [70] years old in gambling center were we bet for soccer predictions gambling bet, and I interviewed the old man that his age that why is it gambling up this age, and many people who don't know me was like wondering why I interviewed the man and some said why I mine questioning the man that gambling is a game of personal interest.so what I to ask a gambler is that what age should someone who is a gambler supposed to reach before the person retire in gambling or is it advisable for someone to continue to gamble until death separate us with gambling.

As a gambler what do you think that should be the right time we suppose to leave gambling weather we are making profits or we are not making profits with gambling, because I know quite well that gambling whenever you are making profits you will wish to continue gambling unless that you run out of cash.

There's no age limit, 2 days ago I went into a land base casinos and I see some commotion, it turns out that an old lady might have fallen down. She has a walking stick by the way, but maybe due to her age, she could stumbled or something.

But the point is that even at that age, at that disability, she still continue to play and enjoy just like the rest of us. So as long as you can play, have the money and have someone in your side if you go to landbase casinos or have guide or even nurses to accompany you, then you can play till the rest of your natural life.

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555  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 05, 2024, 10:28:55 PM
In terms of split, I think Casimero would not mind if he will get a small percentage of the total. His goal now is to prove to the world that he could beat Inoue, he isn't a champion anymore so it's already an opportunity if Inoue will fight him.
That's the typical Casimero that everyone knows. He don't mind about the split as long as he gets the match that he likes and able to prove himself that stronger than the other. His angst and stance in beating Inoue is always voiced out by him.

The real jackpot price here is if he beats Inoue, that would certainly make the world recognize Casimero as the best in the Super Bantamweight, and all Inoue's hype will die, which I think there's a lot at stake for Inoue in this fight, and I would understand if he would not fight Casimero because the latter has a decent chance of beating him.
And of course, he's the first one to beat Inoue but I don't think that it is going to be an easy task for him. Inoue had beaten the good other fellow boxers of Casimero like Donaire and the recent one, Tapales.

So, it's like he's carrying a huge burden on his shoulder that he shouldn't disappoint.

And it's all promotion for Casimero to call Inoue, and I think we will not be tired of at least waiting for this fight to happen. Or at least at some point in the future, when Casimero is still at least in his peak, this fight should be made. For sure there will be enough money to generate here specially if the fight is going to be in the US.

Casimero though is not getting any younger, he is in his mid 30's if I'm not mistaken and maybe just one fight we might see him on a decline. But Inoue has other targets, Neri first before Casimero and others can get their chances against the Monster this year.
556  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Kickstart January in style on: January 03, 2024, 12:59:55 PM
This could be part of the buy the rumor sell the news strategy. The approval is not happening yet. But it seems the rumor is strongly on the side of approval rather than rejection. Many are probably bullish because of this. Ads about Bitcoin are rising here and there. There are reasons to believe that institutional money is coming in soon. So it's wise to just start the buying now.

The difference this time is that they might not really sell the news because the upcoming halving will still have to be factored in. The season is bullish but there's a more bullish season to come.

I do agree, I might be thinking that there is some kind of manipulation as the the price hike doesn't look like organic to me that at the start of the year the price goes off to $45,000. And it might be true, as we had a minor correction to $41,000-$42,000.

So most likely t hey have used the strategy of "buy the rumor, sell the news" strategy and it is still effective as they used the approval of ETF to sell it, and then somewhat manipulated and then pushed the price to $45,000 sell during it's hype and make a lot of money. So very effective strategy for this entities at the start of the year.
557  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: My btc full year plan 2024 on: January 03, 2024, 12:12:44 PM
My 2024 btc plan with which I will start my 2024 year the following months possible btc low and high we will see later. as we know according to btc the market moves on the following prices I buy or sell according to the correct %.
January 37500- 43000

We've already on the $45,000++ right now, just the 3rd day of the month and it seems the Bitcoin market is very bullish. But if this price prediction is till the end of the month and then we will see how it goes.

But as I type this reply, the market is in read right now, and there is a correction to $41,000 and so it looks like there is manipulation from behind as evidently, they have sold already and make a good profits. But we will see, we are still in the beginning of them month and so we might go to $45,000 again or trade sideways, but your prediction for this month is still achievable.
558  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Pacquiao vs. Buakaw - April 20 on: January 03, 2024, 10:39:30 AM
I know Buakaw can take a hit because of being a Muay Thai fighter but I wonder how he will fare in a boxing match, as far as I know, this is his first time fighting in a boxing match(right?), he will be at a disadvantage against Pacquiao, but I hope they can give us a good show. both of these fighters are legendary in their sport.
I think that there's also this scenario in the same sport, a UFC fighter and boxer in a boxing ring. But I have forgotten on who were the fighters are. On this match with Buakaw and Pacquiao, it's certainly an advantage for Pacquiao but it's all about the money that both of them are going to make and that's why this match is anticipated.

Now, I am confused. Is there already a date for the match of Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather when these two announcements came out at the same time? So for first this year of 2024, we're going to see Manny Pacquiao on the ring twice. I guess that there's really no retirement for him and he just can't get out of his passion and even they're just going to be delegations or exhibition matches, he's willing to go in for it.

Maybe Manny just wanted to be active in 2024, after all, boxing did great for him, and that's why he still prefer to fight even after his retirement. And with the reports of how much money he can earn fighting Buakaw, I wouldn't be surprised that him and Floyd are going to fight late this year for one of the biggest fight.

So don't be confused, Pacquiao s Buakaw first in April and then I reckon that in the last quarter of this year, Manny vs Floyd.

And you can also say that to Mayweather as well, no retirement for him, just continue to box and make money.
559  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss! on: January 03, 2024, 10:17:00 AM
There is a video of Casimero recently that he talks about Inoue. It's the usual though, John Riel said that if he lands his power on Inoue, he will definitely go to the canvass. So Casimero is already hyping the fight and who knows, maybe he will be given the first chance here.

However, Neri seems to be the front runner for Inoue and I think everyone wanted to see this fight as well. We are curious as how Neri's style can go against Inoue and he has power as well. And as we can see in the Tapales fight, Marlon did hit Naoya with some good shot. So if someone like Casimero or Neri can do that to Inoue, it might be a different fight or outcome.
560  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Sentiment Poll for January on: January 02, 2024, 08:54:20 PM
Well if we see that the price is going up because of some news or investors pouring their money already this early in anticipation of bitcoin block halving, then I will say that we might be in a bull run already.

I know it's too early to call, but this set of new investors are kindly different, I mean they are really ready to pounce on the market anytime and pump the price (FOMO), and this could infectious to other investors as well that's why in the first 2 days of January the price reaches $45,000.
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