i had 12 bokis on forced holiday at present though im sure he'll be back to shock us all some more.

Who is your friend?

a lot of altcoins have dropped significantly. check litecoin etc... its across the board. nice Christmas shopping time for altcoins of your choice.

http://netcoin.io ==> hit their forums up and ask them. I believe the site has a link to skype through browser to chat channel.

topic does need an update.

lots of alts heavily down atm. with btc rise and price drops bittrex should look at usd equiv vol instead of 0.5btc a day average. i think a lot of coins will start delisting. litecoin taking a pounding too

only a few months away till max 10% apr. 772 million coins in wild.

were any of the paid listings increased time wise due to outage bugs?

Looks like we have this again. 0.5btc volume needed in average over last 14 days.

Seems a lot of altcoins volume is down with rise of bitcoin. 6 days to raise volume.

Likewise perhaps you could realise that its only them who named it the official coin of virtual reality. The virtual reality they have is some game with vr content.

Meanwhile real VR is in the likes of the htc vive and occulus rift. Microsoft will be bigger in the hololens space for augmented reality.

Voxelus is just some wannabe minecraft voxel based gaming selling content.

This is just an attempt for them to raise the btc price of the coin to sell more of their premine. They have nothing to lose if their company goes to shit and walk away with your btc meanwhile you end up with $1000 spent hoping to get 1% of a 100m supposed company. Maybe you could get over your greed and think about it realistically. Yeah sure they'll buy back coins for a pittance but give the community $15m worth of actual profit yeah right. With your 15 posts maybe you are a paid avertising shill or maybe its you that are doing poor decisions in crypto trading.

voxels uses this same non mineable premine shit.

jim blasko did both and it appears he's disappeared from the voxels thread since its dived down in price.

what makes me laugh is they make a coin then declare it the official coin of vr or the official coin of esports... who was in a position to declare it official and the coin of choice?

all they did was make a coin, premine the fuck out of it and run a crowdsale. they are telling gamers they need a coin and happy to sell it. this eboost shit will be a clone of voxels so check that out gleb.

if they were serious about esports they'd use an existing coin and make a service but no premine cash in that right?

marshall is a disease that needs to be removed from crypto news. his asociations with garza etc dont speak much to his character. blasko is getting shadier by the day too with his associations.

eboost, voxels, xpy, ion its all the same garbage a coin nobody asked for to solve a problem nobody had.

so basically whoever spends the most wins? those that enter but dont spend big lose. i cant believe you cant see some of the issues with this and the greed. the game isnt a game its advertised as one but its not one.

for those blinded its not a game its a wrapped purchase program.

So you don't have any "proof" and instead just chuck an insult in to divert from answering that question is this correct?

Also i don't take and i don't believe suchmoon states the FAQ is PROOF in any way. Its a set of information with answers from areas. If it was a proof document against it then it would be called the Ion is a scam proof document. The FAQ has questions with answers from sources. It states on questions that don't have supporting evidence that there is no proof but according to ion. You don't like those statements you want them to read as proof.

Ionomy can provide the proof but they choose to say company confidential so in turn their response in the FAQ has to be they said that but can't provide proof stating company confidential. If you want it to be shown as proof then they have to drop that won't say line. Else the answer is "they won't say".

Also when are you going to answer that question about your statement for quarterly and monthly financials being checked.. you said you did you homework on the investment which by your definition of sane investing includes this but i can't track the financials down.. can you link to them for me? The singapore company page hasn't got any for over 3 years?? im perplexed and want to be a sane investor and do background checks.

@Wildshark - how is that proof? You posted a response and say its proof because you said so. This is not PROOF. Remember when people said the world was flat? Apparently it was proof because people said it was. Amazing what happened when people said around the entire circumference of the planet and found out it was indeed round.

Post HOW its PROOF. Provide backing evidence i.e. via blockchain etc. Someones words aren't proof. If you believe they are then i'll make a statement and because i said it is you can then take that as proof.

Stop changing my text and removing the quote to make it look like i said your included changes wildshark its bad forum etiquette. Instead of showing your changes you keep putting in advertisement bs. The question was how is there profit in those parts and you write shit like good amount due to heavy ultra awesome testing... simply put profit from lives sold.

So im going to ask you to redo this with your shown changes and not mine or else i recommend everyone ignore that post because its not mine i did NOT say what you are implying.

Also the staking coins NO PROFIT IS MADE... its how the team makes money on it. Explain to me how stakers users have which ionomy gives more rewards for makes ionomy profit if they AREN'T using the premine or interest from the premine to distribute like you said they aren't.

Cut out the misleading quotes wildshark or i recommend everyone does the same thing to you with misrepresenting your posts, changing them and then thanking you like you do for other people.

@cryptobuds

Lets analyse it and maybe wildshark can clarify.. based on his picture for services

Buy Ion - There should be no profit here wildshark. The aren't using the premine nor coins generated from the premine correct? So i think its safe to say there is no profit here unless they are selling premine or premine coin interest?

Store - This is the points store right? That means $3 = 1 point = item. This should be cost neutral as people are paying that for themselves unless they inflate xbox costs etc. Hence there shouldn't be a profit here.

Exchange - its a zero fee exchange right? No profit should be here.

Crypto Gravity - Profit here if lives sold...

Stakers - Profit here if people buy in btc skins and stuff... however where are the ions coming from that they gift people with higher rates? Shouldn't be the premine nor generated premine coins as interest as they don't do that right? So staker bonuses are actual a negative profit unless skin sales etc offset this.

Atoms - whale, insider trading club sales. This is a finite profit though as once atoms sold gone. Btw they apparently aren't securities but are rewards program yet you can transfer atom ownership to others in market sale which reward programs don't allow. Hence the personal reward loyalty program definition.

Electrons - i have no idea but i suspect same as atoms above

Subscription - profit here its likely btc for cheaper rate or something.

So does that sound about right wildshark? Want to clarify

Pay money and you too can be an exclusive insider trader too.

Alpha phase is just testers so its therefore the dire hard investors that are purchasing lives with fiat money. The actual test is release to a non associated investor base. It actually isn't a good metric to use when its forced purchases to test.

Ion's haven't been made either. The purchased lives are split 3 ways remember... exchange buy, points. Also remember that the ions purchased on the exchange are NOT given to the lives purchaser. I don't see that stated anywhere. I can only assume those purchased ions go to the ionomy people who then sell those ions back right? So regardless if there is indeed a purchase pool ionomy has no incentive to hold ions. They can simply sell back straight away into market for btc.

The worst thing about this is it all crumbles without actual buy support... the buy pool is useless and nullifies itself out. e.g.

Person spends $1 in gravity.
33c goes to buying ion from exchange that goes to team
team then sells that ion back to make 33c

so there is no actual movement.. the buyers still determine the books and by buyers i mean real buyers and not the buy pool gravity purchase stuff. Its all a red herring.

They are selling ions that nobody needs. They can't be used in games, i see no actual use... even the buy an xbox store comes from points (which mind you you end up paying for yourself... 1 point per $3)

Its just marketing and words there is no magic.

He doesn't know its obvious. Sharkie only responds where he sees fit and ignores questions on his statements e.g. sane investors would check quarterly and yearly financials which ionomy and graval has none. Sharkie puts his foot in his mouth a lot then just decides to not respond because you know if you don't sell you haven't lost any money and if you close your eyes its not there if you can't see it.

Wildshark is also a dangerous person to take any advice from or opinion. He takes everything Huey aka Adam Matlack says at face value and considers a statement from Huey as "proof" of something. On that same line of reasoning Adam Matlack took what Garza said as "proof" and we know how that turned out. Proof is actual figures and a validated line of thinking, not a comment by someone especially a human being which are prone to tell lies / bend truths where they see fit... its in our nature.

Wildshark tends to think if he asks huey something and gets an answer then that is the truth. This is incorrect as its not a validated statement.

@MrCoins shit as well... i don't understand his its 97% as efficient... thats complete utter shit. Its actually 97% of the price you would pay i.e. a 3% fee for doing it that way. Efficiency doesn't equate into it as its not work thats saved when we are talking money!

Who seriously says my job is 50% as efficient as yours when talking pay amounts?

you glossed over and didnt address my question about sane investors and quarterly yearly financials? are you per chance feeling embarrassed about that comment of yours or saying ionomy is so trust worthy only to do that for other companies. your lack of tesponding to this is eating away at any credibility your statements have. man up and address your statement.

Jared i looked the site over but couldn't find the information and roadmap being launched with the new site. Do you have a direct link to it as i was expecting it with the site?

Does this mean that without this extra buy pressure ions can't sell on their own merit?

Also why would people want to get ion in this way due it not being used in games... wouldn't they rather non blockchain electrons and atoms?

Lastly do you still recommend all investors that are sane check quarterly and yearly financials as you previously stated that ionomy do not have registered under graval or ionomy pte? Just curious... quoted you and put it here again because i know you respond to question and queries so must have just missed the last 5 times i asked it in an honest mistake considering you ask others to back their statements up... thoughts?