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661  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: August 13, 2017, 11:50:29 PM
Its always important to remember the fact of gambling its only for diversion and the trading its to make profit. There is some peoples wich lives with gambling but they are the exception.

Actually both are ways of making money however some people just dont know to differ both of them. You have better chance to get some money from trading given that you know what you are doing however if you dont then it is pretty much a gambling as well. Most people lose money in trading as they thought it is random like gambling
I will prefer to consider both as an equal risk to make money.
Since both is way to make profit through guessing / predicting things.
I don't really belive on an analysis has a huge influence all of them always about luck.
662  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: August 13, 2017, 11:37:15 PM
Play with your profits of course!
This way you're increasing your chances to win big. I know it's more risky but gambling isn't about playing safe.
Go big or go home Cheesy
Of course gambling will always about that , everyone know.
But you should have a limitation too , otherwise you will go broke instead go big lol.
Risking money over and over again is a very bad idea , better to stop for a while when you win in profit.
663  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Better investement right now, bitcoins or Altcoins. on: August 11, 2017, 11:20:37 AM
If I planned on buying some coins today. Which would be the better long term investment, and why?

I spread risks by buying some BTC and different other stable coins.
Right now i bought some TTT at their ico and waiting before they release their indexes at exchange.
I think that in the long term will be my best investment because i can trade much faster and effective.
Yeaaa spread the risk , it is important to do that i guess.
To avoid a huge loss at once , so better to put your money on bitcoin and also several altcoins .
I just suggest to put a little more on bitcoin as the price currently still cheaps before heading $10k or even $100k , who knows?
I think much better to stay invest in bitcoin instead of investing to other altcoin it can increase the risk.. than you are investing in bitcoikn that i think its more less risk or much safier than you are investing in altcoin..
Since bitcoin price movement is really increase fast after days or weeks you can getting the benefits of the movement of the price if you know when to sell and if you know when to buy bitcoins because the price of bitcoin is not stable if you really want to make a large amount of profit be active of trading in bitcoin and use some tools like alert sounds so that you know your margin setup so that you can sell or buy bitcoin..
Considering the value of bitcoin right now is so expensive , it is hard to get good profit.
But when you invest your money in a cheap altcoins , it makes gou easily to get profit.
Such as when monero going up 20% it takes few days only , no even takes few houra only.
664  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you set up limits for yourself? on: August 11, 2017, 10:52:49 AM
Yeah i do limit myself whenever i gamble now because i learned from my past experience, before i just gamble if i lose i'll just depo again and if i win i just play until i get exhausted or lose everything i have by doing that i wasn't able to win a lot but when i start having a limit whenever i gamble i always withdraw and everytime i lose i don't lose much just few of my coins.
So how could the limitation really work for you? Is there
 something special to do?
As far as i know that no matter how you set the limit, when the greedy comes to you it is an end of story.
I mean you will easily break it up rather than keep sticking on it , as the greedy feeling imho the biggest challenge you should faced.
That's why you have to control it and never stop limiting yourself always because you will never know how much you can lose in a few minutes, because you know in gambling it could just be an instant to lose a lot of money. You have to control yourself and that's not easy in my opinion.
The problem always on how you never able to handle the greedy to take over yourself.
It was too hard to say you have successfully set up the limit and stick to it.
Because the tension when you playing way too high , human nature will automatically execute it , i mean to keep playing until cross the limit.
665  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When to leave the game? on: August 10, 2017, 02:28:15 AM
Many addicted to gamble that they don't know how to leave gamble even they won they want to play more until there money lose all. That is my problem when i gamble i don't know how to leave in casino thats why i always lose. But now i stop it.
It's not only your problem or the problems of a small group of people everyone in gambling don't really know when to stop winning is really hard but when someone keeps winnig he doesn't stop and thinks he cam earn more than his goal and finally loses all. You should always stick to your goal and quickly withdraw after achieving it
Here you need to consider what is actually happening with every gambler. Because no gambler is entering into gambling for the reason of losing his money and moreover all the gamblers are having some plan to make profit and to limit their gambling activity for that day. Even they are having such plans, they are unable to follow it almost every day. That is the reason they are booking profit at the end of the day.

I believe there will be no possibility of leaving gambling after winning but the only possibility must be leaving off gambling completely. You should never go to gambling hence you never need to win and then lose there. Possible ?
Of course you can stop gambling when you win. Most people just lack the resolve to do so and then blame gambling and call it "addictive" rather than taking responsibility for their behaviour.
Yeaaa i agree the very basic gambling rule is to take on responsibility on what you have done.
And people mostly cannot do that , they think it was because an addiction.
Actually it is not , when you can learn how to accept facts you have lost or be wise by taking a little profit only. You will realize that nothing impossible.
Leave the game once you get a full bag of money. There's no point of returning if you can establish your own gambling business if you want to. Anyway, you can't stay or having fun in that way forever because there a number of people will continue to gamble despite losing their time and money. So better leave when you get already what you want. Have your own life and don't gamble again instead make others gamble for you in your own business.
At that point greedy is the only reason why people cannot stop while they can and in profit.
So no wonder if in the end mostly just have a bad story about gambling.
It is indeed a big challenge , but believe me once you have passed it , good ending waiting there.
666  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: August 10, 2017, 02:00:36 AM
you can start minimum amount of investment. you can start trading and be wise when to buy and sell. The most important thing you understand digital currency and be more patient as well.
Usually small capital will require more patients as we need to put same level of researches still we can gain only small amount of profits.

But for both small and big capital we must need strong knowledge on how crypto currencies are working otherwise we cannot make big profits even we will be having very big capital to risk.

Yes big capital is better but since OP is a fresher in trading he can start with small capital like $10, too small but just to make it sure that he can't lose big. $10 to start up then when it profit he can use to add it to its capital then repeat the cycle. Big things came from small things so better to have patience when trading when you dont want to lose big.

Small amount could be different value for each person , $1,000 considered as a small amount for a big investor.
But yeaaa generally maybe to start with $100? As $10 to start trading really not worth , it is wasting time.
You should look at bigger picture , if you just want to practice then better to use a demo account or something similar like that.
Practice is important for understanding trading in a better way. I think the link you have mentioned is the best solution for searching answers related to crypto market and crypto trading. I don’t think so we can’t start trading with little amount. Though we can’t directly buy bitcoins but can earn them by joining signature campaigns, mining etc.
What i mean is when you do trade small amount with real money it feels like wasting money.
Try a demo account with play money really help you to gain confidence.
Pretty different when you do it with real money to learn , it sometimes erase your confidence and even discouraged you to back to trade.
667  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: August 10, 2017, 01:23:59 AM
Gambling is so addicting because it gives opportunity to earn money fast and easy in short time only and makes money instant. It is addicted because many people hoping to win and wants to more winning. Gambling gives fun and profit this is what people wants in gambling, and its profitable. It is always chances of winning and always gives a good value. Everyone is free to gamble that's is why gambling is so addicting.
Indeed! It is mainly addictive because it offers great capital within short time. People are now a day madly after shortcuts of becoming rich and casino owners know this well. Just by showing great amount, they make people chase it and in this course they mostly lose what they had and they play again to get it back. This is the reason why gambling is so addictive.
Too good to be true , that is what gambling offers to you everytime.
And people get lured with it as always because of their greedy.
Gambling will always leading people into something crazy such as stealing , break with your wife etc. Mostly gives you bad news.
Not just gambling leads to bad things, only when getting addicted to gambling these are all happening. You need to notice, both professional gamblers and newbie gamblers are not suffering by gambling problems because they are not addicted to it. When they start addicting to gambling then all the negative things will be happening to themselves also.
My point is that something so good potential with less effort be the reason why gambling addictive.
It is also has a funny game , yeaaaa a funny game that produce money , who's don't want to do that huhh?
Those things always in your mind , no wonder people keep coming back for the sake chasing all of it.
668  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin reached 3.2K!! on: August 09, 2017, 11:49:20 PM
And everybody's happy! That moment when you can't stop grinning. In a span of one month we've seen a $1,000 surge and so there's nothing stopping btc to go for $5,000 by the end of this year, right? Considering all the fluctuations that may happen. I think four months is enough for bitcoin to have a two-thousand dollar additional surge, don't you think? Crossing my fingers! Grin
Everyone really so exciting with the bullish market now , hope it really go to the right direction.
High price mean a lot for those people who looking for profit as their investment.
But for me an adpostion more important more than anything , i want to see people treat bitcoin not just a profitable investment, but also a real currency to use in daily life.
669  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Better investement right now, bitcoins or Altcoins. on: August 09, 2017, 11:33:25 PM
If I planned on buying some coins today. Which would be the better long term investment, and why?

I spread risks by buying some BTC and different other stable coins.
Right now i bought some TTT at their ico and waiting before they release their indexes at exchange.
I think that in the long term will be my best investment because i can trade much faster and effective.
Yeaaa spread the risk , it is important to do that i guess.
To avoid a huge loss at once , so better to put your money on bitcoin and also several altcoins .
I just suggest to put a little more on bitcoin as the price currently still cheaps before heading $10k or even $100k , who knows?
670  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: August 09, 2017, 11:19:47 PM
If you ask about how to quit gambling, you often experience losing in gambling. Because if always win, of course will never ask this. My idea is to decide in heart that gambling doesnt make your life and your economy better. And never remember what you've spent on gambling. Start a new chapter of your life as if everything never happened. That way you can live to be better person and without gambling.
I think everyone aware about that already .
Just the matter how you can deal with addiction , since you are insist to play it is because gambling addiction.
So find that way by distract your gambling habit with other habit such as sports or something that you really like and use your most time.

It is hard to fight addiction that is why the only way is to play with a smaller amount so that we dont hurt ourselves when we do that. Sometimes we dont want to stop and keep playing, we are going to destroy ourselves because if we keep thinking like that then we cant control the amount that we use to play
No smaller amount to gamble won't stop you to play , it is still tend you to gamble again.
You should decrease your gambling intention and it might will work.
Gamble such as once a week and then once a month and then as time goes by slowly you will completely quit gambling.
671  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading sucks, I'll just hold my coins on: August 09, 2017, 08:23:29 AM
Many people became hodlers since they missed out the last heavy bull run candles. I am not sure how this will end.

Many people expect too much from trading, think it's easy money and very soon they get disappointed or lose big money. When they realise they got it all wrong they become holders. And trading is not easy job and it's not for everyone, you have to invest a lot of time and efforts in it. .Not everyone can be a trader.
A newcomer will always lured on how good the profit potential by buying low selling it high.
It wasn't that easy , there's risk where you should anticipate it before talking good things abd good result.
I personally better to talk how much i could lost put certain buy position rather than the good possibility.
672  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: August 09, 2017, 08:14:48 AM
The worst mistake in gambling is when you have enough profit, but you want even more and continue to play, but in the end it leads to a loss of all money and disappointment.

This is common in every gambler their greed towards money is high because they are not contented on their winnings. They continue playing even they know the risk of losing is very big. We or they should be happy with the winnings no matter how big or small is that. This can be prevented if we know when to stop and have a good self control on not betting again after gaining some wins.
That one isn't the worst i guess , imagine when you are rich already but become poor because of gambling.
I believe everyone here have seen something like that , and guess if it was bad and terrible enough?
I think it was , that kind situation for me considered as the worst mistake
673  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your game and why? on: August 09, 2017, 07:52:49 AM
My game is satoshimines and some dice games.
I just like the game it really is exciting and fun to play .
And I like to play some card game to like poker.
Satoshimines yeaaa that game is really addicting , have a very unique way to having fun.
And of course make money from it too. I love things that really different from what other people usually does.
Dice is too mainstream i don't like it , i just love to play blackjack poker unfortunately cannot see it now in bitcoin casinos.
674  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you set up limits for yourself? on: August 08, 2017, 11:28:50 PM
Yeah i do limit myself whenever i gamble now because i learned from my past experience, before i just gamble if i lose i'll just depo again and if i win i just play until i get exhausted or lose everything i have by doing that i wasn't able to win a lot but when i start having a limit whenever i gamble i always withdraw and everytime i lose i don't lose much just few of my coins.
So how could the limitation really work for you? Is there
 something special to do?
As far as i know that no matter how you set the limit, when the greedy comes to you it is an end of story.
I mean you will easily break it up rather than keep sticking on it , as the greedy feeling imho the biggest challenge you should faced.
675  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you place all your funds into bitcoin? on: August 08, 2017, 11:13:15 PM
As many suggested above , and at the same time it is very popular saying "don't put all your eggs in one basket".So I never invest all my funds in just bitcoins.To be precise we should not keep all our investments in any one single source of returns.

In spite of this fact we may consider this fact of keeping all our investments only in Bitcoins, because now bitcoin became way of life, it's not just a source of getting returns.So conclusion is take your own risk before making any decision.  Also keep in mind that, never put your daily spending's in any investments.
Just like in trading , practically you shouldn't put the buy position with your whole bankroll.
As you need to have a proper proccess , i mean buying in step by step .
You know why? It is because noone knows that the worst situation such as a freefall price could hit the market and you automaticallly of course.

That's true and that's what I experienced after putting all my "bitcoins" in a website for BCH but didn't get anything. I know the situation here we are talking about is a bit different from what I suffered but it's nearly the same when I traded my coins too for BCH. I sent my Bitcoins yesterday to bittrex finally after deciding to do so checking everything to be safe, but when I bought BCH at such a high price of BTC0.21, I saw it declining from there and everyone is still dumping it hard. You should learn from this and should know that getting all in into one thing could lead you nowhere but a potential loss which could be extremely disastrous.
It is a basic knowledge i think for any kind trader to not buy at once but step by step.
Putting value in bitcoin have the same concept , you shouldn't go all in , as the risk really big.
If you are okay with that condition then be may guess, it is just never be a good idea , better to looking for other safe action.
676  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Looking for casinos with Instant/Near-instant withdrawals. on: August 08, 2017, 11:04:50 PM
I believe when talking about huge money and a little bit delayed withdrawal proccess it is for security reason.
But yeaa i agree a security checking shouldn't takes that long time (up to 12 hours) at least a couple minutes longer than proccess it instantly.
Anyway have you tried primedice? They are the biggest bitcoin site , they even have paid out people more than thousands bitcoin.
677  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: August 08, 2017, 10:57:47 PM
you can start minimum amount of investment. you can start trading and be wise when to buy and sell. The most important thing you understand digital currency and be more patient as well.
Usually small capital will require more patients as we need to put same level of researches still we can gain only small amount of profits.

But for both small and big capital we must need strong knowledge on how crypto currencies are working otherwise we cannot make big profits even we will be having very big capital to risk.

Yes big capital is better but since OP is a fresher in trading he can start with small capital like $10, too small but just to make it sure that he can't lose big. $10 to start up then when it profit he can use to add it to its capital then repeat the cycle. Big things came from small things so better to have patience when trading when you dont want to lose big.

Small amount could be different value for each person , $1,000 considered as a small amount for a big investor.
But yeaaa generally maybe to start with $100? As $10 to start trading really not worth , it is wasting time.
You should look at bigger picture , if you just want to practice then better to use a demo account or something similar like that.
678  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: August 08, 2017, 10:47:16 PM
In trading we make a bet on coin after analyzing market, reading the past performance and the project it is based upon which makes it a mixture of luck, strategy and analysis. While gambling is pure luck and is just an enjoying activity. But trading is a serious business.

Trading is to make some money while gambling is to lose some money. Generally speaking, this is what both purposes are although in reality you can lose money in trading as well as get some money in gambling. No one know the future that is why choose the best possible thing to make money if you want to make money

You have time, and you don't need any urgent money and ready to invest then trading is a good choice. It will not give you instant profit, but you can make a good profit in a long time. Patience is very important you can not control tension means don't enter this field you will face many losses. And gambling is also not suitable. Becasue both will give you same tension.
The purpose of both actually is the same to make money but mostly yeaaa have a different result.
I agree with erwin that gambling won't profitable not like trading still profitable based on several researches.
You could consider trading as gambling under certain circumstances , but not always like that.
679  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to control greed on gambling? on: August 08, 2017, 05:01:28 PM
It's really hard but try to withdraw 50% of profit from certain time (i mean like every 3 days 50% of profit you withdraw or keep somewhere else).

Although i just end up losing everything then depositing back that "profit" that i made and lose it all too..
You will never resist to see a spare money on a spare time to gamble.
People tend to use whatever money it is when you have got addicted to gambling , that is true right?
Then i guess your suggestion/ plan won't work smoothly , better to looking for another option .
680  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: August 08, 2017, 04:44:25 PM
I think that bitcoin is better just to keep and wait until the price rises. Gambling is too dangerous, and in investing you can get to scammers and lose your chance to become rich.
Come on , this is a new era where people should thinking wider.
Overprotective won't change anything , won't change the world. Be brave and take every risk infront of you.
Don't be coward like that , investment is of course the most reliable option that you can choose.
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