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681  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Criteria of a good gambler on: June 26, 2018, 10:15:17 AM
I think these two

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a good gambler never cause any problem to the surrounding 

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a good gambler should able to manage the time

is not really needed. When a gambler do not chase and can control themselves, they know for themselves that they don't really need to borrow money from other people, why would they go for that? That will not be a fun and exciting gambling experience right?

Also, even without stating the last one, they can really manage their time since as you've said, a good gambler is not attached to profit and can control themselves that makes them prone on having a lot of time with their family and their career.
I agree with these opinions that one of our friend have mentioned in his comment because everyone has got different experience regarding the same thing that’s why everyone have different opinions as well but for me, I think there is no such criterion of a good gambler. A good gambler in my opinion is the one who knows when to leave and stop for good.
682  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2018 Russia - the Journey on: June 26, 2018, 09:38:08 AM
I don't think you need to pay to watch World Cup it's broadcast for free on all channels or speak with your cable guys they should be able to handle it for you. I have never heard that you need to pay for it, so I think you should just keep calm and figure it out.

I don't think both will play for a draw a 1 -0 result looks promising but I don't feel comfortable on guessing who it'll be.

Poland is everyone's favourite hope they live up to it.
It is England vs Panama today and let’s sees for a tough match and interesting match because after the match of Argentina vs Croatia we can not say about the dominancy anymore because that was an upset. Now today it is going to be an interesting match between England and Panama and especially the audience is very energetic about this game, I will watch on TV and will enjoy it.
683  Economy / Economics / Re: Economy going up and up everyday on: June 25, 2018, 09:58:38 AM
I have been interested into economy, stock trading and such. And have begun watching series movies and reading more about it.


I learned what CDOs where, and how they worked. But now the institutions/banks are selling/buying bespoke tranche opportunities, basically same as CDOs just another name.

The dollar is up by a lot, and the stock market has tested the 200 MA 3 times already. Interest rates are near 0% and loan rates are going up faster and faster each year.

Every country I have friends in, are telling me that the inflation is rising, interest rates are going going down and you're basically losing money each year.
What I think is interesting, is that the loan rates were pretty low (close to 0) for 1-2 years and it started to rise.


I think with the rise of Crypto, it's the safe heaven for us, the normal people. I think communities, countries, specific groups of people will make their own currency (and also money) out of thin air, and this is how our societies will function soon. But that doesn't necessarily mean that cash will go away, I think people are attached to cash a lot and it's a different feeling when you have cash.


What do you guys think? All thots are appreciated!

I don’t know if having crypto puts you in a safe position. Crypto is still an asset and they are all the same. When did you get into this your investment? Lol, haven’t you seen that the price of Bitcoin is going down? Didn’t you see it when it dropped from $20k down to this current price of $6000? So all these are the same, crypto is not keeping you safe. They are all investment and your aim is to make profit, but there will also be loss at times.
684  Other / Off-topic / Re: Backup is important on: June 25, 2018, 09:26:50 AM
Good day, just want to share my experience,
I am using 2fa as my security in my emails and exchange accounts, so one day I nearly lost my phone and that phone holds majority of my pins, 2fa, etc. so I thought I lost all, luckily I found the phone. So now I'm thinking of buying an extra phone for backup. What else do you recommend for backup?
When you choose cryptocurrency you must make a buck up of all of your files and accounts for the groceries or for every time you are respectable. The only one who depend upon which has been running a new cryptocurrency is really amazing in this day of cryptocurrency is really amazing.
We will see the increase rate of demand these days because the conditions are favorable for buyers and if they are ready this time then it will be a better decisions and will make them get maximum profit in a high market. price today is 6.1k dollar and this is the lowest of this year so we can not say that it will decrease more but we can say that this low price is easy to achieve and will increase the demand rate.
685  Economy / Speculation / Re: I need more money to invest now! on: June 25, 2018, 07:54:06 AM
Well money is an essential needs in bitcoin investments and without it the chance of maximising your hodling is not possible. So better have some courage to risk on accumulate more cash in a legal and moral pay from working. I don’t advice anyone on lending money for this particular reason as that will only result a big disasters financially.

It’s a good time to invest, but it might not a right time for you if you have no money to spare.

Opportunities as a whole, is presents in a whole year. But big OPPORTUNITY like this is given once a year and grabbing it is a must.
This is exactly what I want, I invested in the Bitcoin when price were moving around 7.5k dollar which I considered to go high after investment but the price dropped more and more and today the price is 6.1kdollar. I know that once the market will recover and will benefit us as it has been benefiting us so this time I am also thinking to invest some more amounts to make a better collection.
686  Economy / Speculation / Re: What effects the bitcoin price? on: June 25, 2018, 07:23:58 AM
Since I started with bitcoin saw the rapid rise and decrease of the price, so as I read the news and other blogs about bitcoin this is the things that constantly alter bitcoin value.

1. Government policies and regulation (sometimes banning of bitcoin), like Russia, India, S. Korea and others.
2.  News and media sites ( closing of related bitcoin site and hacking like $60m cryptocurrency hacked https://www.wikitribune.com/story/2017/12/11/technology/nicehash-ceo-speaks-out-after-60m-cryptocurrency-hack/27212/
3. Intended market manipulation. Some player buy large amount of bitcoin it causes the bitcoin rise in the market.
4. Limited supply of bitcoin not more than 21M tokens, in high demand.
5 Other policy of central bank.

This is few reason why bitcoin alter rapidly.
To be honest, I only know about the banning of bitcoin in some other countries that causes bitcoin prices to fall. About the gamer or player, I never knew that they are one of the factors about the current bitcoin price. These past few days, I heard about the limited supply of bitcoin and I never knew that it really exists. Do you think that there are more factors about the bitcoin price?
A lot of factors are there in the market which control the price of Bitcoin and other currencies, every currency has its own market factors. For Bitcoin the major factor is demand which is the people interest and encouragement. When people encourage the market demand rate will go high and similarly the price of Bitcoin will go high in the air. We should wait for our turns in order to sell out in high market as the current market is low so we can not sell here.
In general the major factor which affects the price of Bitcoin is the demand of people, if the people’s demand increases the value of Bitcoin will also increase and will follow the increase trend. On the other hand it will follow the decrease trend if the people’s demand decreases.

So the market is dependant of its demand and this is the controlling factor, besides this the negative and positive speculations also affect the Bitcoin’s market.
There are so many things that affect the prices of Bitcoin. Market demand is very important in this regard and any rise or fall in the level of market demand changes the price directly.

Besides, the government regulations also discourage the investment in Bitcoin and results the price depreciation. Selling in the red market also contributes to depreciation. But still people are holding their portfolios and hope for the boom.

I only think about the effects of the bitcoin price which is people getting panic if the price is up or it's down. I see this before that when the price is up, people start to panic because they think that they can be too late to have bitcoin. but on the other side, if the price is down, people in a panic because they think that the price will fall too deep without any chance to back to the price before. this is happening too many times before and still many people that getting panic because of the situations in the market.
The prices of Bitcoin can be affected by the selling in the red market. Once the, market is red and you sell your portfolio, you actually contribute more to the red market as a result of which the prices falls. Also the prices are affected by exogenous factors like if country banns the Bitcoin, the demand for the Bitcoin will decrease because it will be illegal for the people of that country to use it further.
687  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Day trade Vs HODL on: June 23, 2018, 11:04:51 AM
What is your recommendation for Crypto trading,  Day trading or HODL
Experience in crypto trading big loser or winner
Hodl is the common strategy to avoid losing money, especially if you don't have enough knowledge how to manage doing day trading and etc. Which is you must hold for long term until the price rocketed and always control your emotions to avoid being hasty or stay away on the market and comeback after moths or year to check the situation of the growth rate,  to prevent such issues.

Hodling will be the sickest thing to do for the people who still hoping to recover their money on future around, they had an option to earn more from the dump by cutting some loss and buy again from the dip since if we keep hodling and hodling and the market condition will be the same as this and we doesn't know on when does the market recover then we will surely  sick and be sick to see the price drops so bad on day by day basis.
Though hodl is a slang term but in the Bitcoin business, it works great because you actually hold your portfolio and do not sell it low which is something that keeps you away from losing the future money that is there when you reach there. In my opinion, if you buy low, do not sell again low or at a slight high price. Hodl and wait until you get enough money that so much people have been rolling in.
688  Other / Off-topic / Re: Backup is important on: June 23, 2018, 08:15:23 AM
security is most important for here. because there have many sort of hacker with around the world. So you have to save your wallet with best and best security you can. and are you using android so you can authenticat or app.  it would be best security and you have more choose but my best was that authentucat app.
Even if you do not lose your phone, your 2fa accounts can be hacked and this sometimes created a huge chaos. I remember the time when the inventor of BTM posted about his 2fa accounts being hacked and he mentioned it is going to be a good day.

This means there is also a lot of things you can do to stop people getting your personal information. In my opinion, you should be good at protecting your own information by staying active in the market as well. There are some softwares that provide extra security. Search them out.
689  Economy / Economics / Re: 7 REASONS WHY: which one are you? on: June 21, 2018, 06:29:03 AM
I can't really put myself into any of those 7 types.... my objective is profit Smiley
I do not even understand the last point he made with respect to the show off. What is there to show off anyway since when you get bucked up, anyone around you will definitely know your status has changed and unless he is missing the point, it is more like you just trying to invest, so you could have invested and ended up making profit in other areas even outside cryptocurrency. Nevertheless, there are so many opportunities lurking in cryptocurrency and who would not want to tap from those opportunities?
690  Economy / Speculation / Re: Patience is all we need on: June 21, 2018, 05:59:10 AM
There are two types of traders normally, one is long-term investors and the second is daily traders, daily traders are not holding funds for long term that is why this term is not hit the daily traders and the others are long-term traders, This term is especially good for long-term traders,


We have to keep all our emotions aside from our investment because it is not a place to show our emotions and even we are not in a movies or drama shooting so that we may not get sad and should not be panic. This market is a precious market among all the other markets and we should handle it seriously. All we need is to have a grasp on the basic market rules so that we may not face with loss or difficult situations.
691  Economy / Economics / Re: Money laundering tools on: June 21, 2018, 05:28:12 AM
There are some part that we are missing in the whole story - all crypto currencies including the Bitcoin that accumulate in them the whole adbanced techonoly.
I don’t really get what you’re talking about🤔 do you mean that Bitcoin has advanced technology? Well, it may have an advanced technology, but it is not the first. The only counting the op’s comment wrong is by saying that Bitcoin can only be used for money laundering.

Such is a stupid comment, but I wouldn’t mind since it is coming from someone who is a junior member of the community. Bitcoin is useful and that’s the reason we are all here. If it wasn’t useful, we wouldn’t be here, fact!
692  Economy / Speculation / Re: Best time to buy bitcoin! on: June 21, 2018, 04:53:05 AM
Whenever the price goes down that's the right time to buy bitcoin. Now the price is low so this is the best time to buy bitcoin. We can expect great profit this year end. But hold that bitcoin with patience till the price reaches high. The price is gradually increasing and not too high but increasing. Same time it fluctuates this is common in the crypto world.
What you are saying is typically off context. If you are looking for cheaper coins with respect to quantity, what if it ends up blowing down as well, or do you think you are totally safe buying cheaper coins? Have you considered the way the market always reacts when bitcoin is in a huge correction or in a bull run? I guess not! It is important to always be very careful in your investment and not be blinded by quantity you derive from alts as most alts are there just for the short term gains anyway.
693  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it worth buying bitcoin now ? on: June 20, 2018, 11:34:19 AM

 Last few weeks I have been reading in the forum that Bitcoin is dead so is it really worthy to invest on Bitcoin

No doubt, it is a good time to buy
Yes it is definitely worth buying Bitcoin now. You get Bitcoin on a low cost and we are hoping appreciation in the end of the year like the last year as well.

This means good profit can be earned if one invest and hold now. Also the services Bitcoin offers are way too outstanding and are at a very low cost. SO money not spent means money earned. And even if it did not rise in December, at least it will not fall.
694  Economy / Speculation / Re: Patience is all we need on: June 20, 2018, 11:05:52 AM
of course that's right, in trading or investing in crypto the most important thing is patient because patiently then you will avoid loss and can get profit and be successful with crypto
I see why you say that. This is because the current market is red but in the same time gives some good signs about the boom soon in the future. And sine the crypto currency is available on a low price and can be owned with less work, one should not be afraid of loosing and should hold until it is time to cash the crypto. Even with a fall in the price, you never loose if you do not sell. This is how things work in the market.
695  Economy / Economics / Re: BITCOIN IS NOT BUBBLE!! on: June 20, 2018, 09:53:07 AM
Bitcoin is not a bubble I agree with your point of view, if bitcoin is a ball, then we can not see them live and develop or have the same happenings as they did today. You will not be able to hold it long enough
We are talking about bubble here and some people think Bitcoin is a bubble but I would say they need to broaden their knowledge about the technology a bit more.

There are some good and wise people who cashed the opportunity in the start and learned about the technology and invested in it which has proved worth millions of dollars in 2017. This means Bitcoin is not a bubble and in an international currency that might even outshine dollar.
696  Economy / Economics / Re: Factors that affects the value of bitcoin... on: June 20, 2018, 08:23:32 AM
For me, one of the factor that affects the value of bitcoin is the false informations that social media created regarding bitcoin. These may affect those potential investors who wants to invest in bitcoin.
There are so many which can disturbed the market easily and any external shock is likely to affect the prices of Bitcoin as well. Be it the government restriction to the currency in so many countries in Asia and Middle East that resulted in a huge fall in the value last year.

The market demand can also potentially reduce the price level. Rumors normally backed by low experience are also harmful and can refrain people from investing in crypto.
697  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Trading, ICO, Lending, Bounty. Which one should I do ? on: June 19, 2018, 11:19:56 AM
So you already have your answer? because it seems to me that you created this thread and simply disappeared, I'll just suggest you the following on that subject:

I start trading when bitcoin 17000. until now, I lost a haft of money.

You bought it for $ 17000 right? you do not have to sell and have a loss, buy more bitcoin whenever the price of bitcoin goes down, because with this strategy you will get a lot of profit when the bitcoin price goes up, look at this as long term investment, something like your retirement

Lending ? As far as your own statement is concern, you don't have any idea doing it. So again spend time learning it.
Joining ICO ? Learn and understand the risks.

I think it's best if he stays away from these options.


Lending or ICO without proper knowledge should even be the last thing for a new investor to be thinking of. If he is smart and knows what to look for in a project such as the team or availability of product, he can still at least manage ICO.

Nevertheless, the question he has even asked us is what no one can give him a direct answer to because everything is based on his own skills and the resources he has. Bounty though seems to be the best option for him, but even at that, without anything to offer, he would still be irrelevant.
698  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to hold coins in 2018 on: June 19, 2018, 10:37:10 AM
There has been hardly good results of the crypto currencies if we see or calculate it.

Why you going to analyze the ICO project which is not yet comes to market. I suggest you to check the top 50 altcoins on Coinmarketcap and then pick whatever coins have the good value growth on these times.
If you cheap rate altcoins are good according to your view, do not worry still go and buy it mate.
Check the complete price history and see how times it touches its own peak. This is enough to confirm the potential altcoins.
I do not have an idea if you have been in this planet for long, but if we are really to calculate except for those coins and tokens just hitting the market from ICOs, I would say there has been tremendous results over the years and except you do not know how to go back into history.

You may want to consider the level of percentage at which some coins have really grown hugely over the years before even coming to say this. If you believe in the potential of what you are holding, then you will hold no matter what and not bother about the present. That is how to hold!
699  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: thinking quiting after lose on gambling. on: June 19, 2018, 10:05:22 AM
do you experience that after losing on gambling that you thinking you will quit gambling for good and never come again to gambling but then next day you are already positive  that you could win in gambling?

that happen to me a lot when i lose in gambling but a could never leave gambling. Cheesy
This same sentiments of every gambler after losing,because including me whos having this attitude everytime lol..there comes a time that we almost argue with my wife because of this,those time that i promise her not to play again after loss but when theres another extra money,then betting continues 😂😂😂
It is just self-control and the inability to control one no matter what is when the real problem sets in. It is normal for the human nature to want to forge ahead to keep doing something as a result of the urge and gambling comes with a lot of it, so it takes self-discipline and high level of control to be able to stick with what you want and not let your emotions drive you into doing what you would not want to do, which I believe has always been a tough one for most gamblers.
700  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can maths help you win in gambling ? on: June 19, 2018, 09:30:24 AM
I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440
I think the only formula that may help in gambling is probability for roulette games, but i still believe math cannot affect to gambling games even you used probability because probability is all predicting the chances. I believe it is all about luck, so if you wanted to win you need to have good luck.
Even the probability for roulette games will not still help as the only thing that can help anyone is luck and for anyone that luck is not simply on his side, the possibility of losing hugely is still going to be there. Just as you have said, probability itself is trying to predict the level of chances and the possibilities of those coming to play and we all know it is still going to be very hard to predict what comes out next exactly.
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