No they are not the sole source of earning a good potential of bitcoin. There are vast amount of other ways to reap the rewards of making bitcoin all around the internet. You can try investing in an advertising site to draw traffic to your site. If there is valuable content such as the latest bitcoin news with recent events affecting bitcoin then you will made alot of revenue from subscribers to your site.
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It is impossible for any gov't to tax bitcoin. That is the reason why it was decentralized in the first place. So no one owns it and no one party can tax on it. Period!
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How many kH/s would a litecoin pool have to sustain over a month to be able to cover the hosting costs?
Doing some (very rough) math, it seems to me that:
a decent fully dedicated (non vps) server would run ~$100/mo.
if you're running a 1% commission, you would thus have to mine $10,000/mo worth of LTC.
at the current exchange rate, $10,000 USD/m ~= 4,000,000 LTC/m. (or ~133,333 LTC/d)
in my (2 days ;-) of mining experience, ~ 3000kH/s roughly translates to 2600 LTC/d. if you use that ratio, you would then have to mine at an average of 154,000kH/s to mine 133,333 LTC/d.
Thus, at the current exchange rate, with $100/mo expenses, and a 1% commission, your mining pool would need to be averaging 154,000kH/s to break even.
Extrapolating that out, even at a 5% commission, you'd still have to mine at 31,000kH/s as a pool to make $100/mo... are there any litecoin pools pulling that off?
Could someone check my math?
Seems like most of the pools are banking on a better exchange rate I guess?
If you look back at bitcoin in the early days there was little money being made in terms of exchange. heck one guy bought a pizza for like some ungodly amount of BTC which at the time was about $30-$40. No one really knows the future of any of these cryptocurrencies. Time will tell given there is no historical record to look to other than back to 2009 when bitcoin started.
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Actually have an idea, I would like to start several faucet sites, if someone can create one. I can get it going, this will get more people into i0coins.
And I can keep them going for some time.
TRANSLATION: "The idea of bait and switch sounds good, yet i'm not sure exactly how to accomplish this just yet"
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Well it seems i0coin is still progressing, even if slowly. Since it is a community based project, I hope it succeeds and the bugs are fixed.
Good thing is everyone contributed a little bit, and every little bit makes a difference.
And that's what I call a decentralized community based currency. Hopefully one day it gets recognized, and becomes a bigger currency. And one day we can let everyone know that this is completely a community based currency.
TRANSLATION: 'I AM HOLDING APPROXIMATELY 250,000 I0COINS'
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The dinosaurs failed, I heard they were pretty big.
LOL nice one
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Is there any chance that litecoin can be changed to again be GPU hostile?
I am not a developer by any stretch, but with the coming of FPGAs and ASICs onto the Bitcoin scene, coupled with the reward split, there are going to be a lot of Ex-Bitcoin GPUs floating around, and I bet a fair number will find their way onto the Litecoin Network. This may be when Litecoin becomes the "silver" to bitcoin, but there are so many assumptions there, the outlook is a complete wash. However, GPU hostility is impossible to do with Litecoin, as that sort of change would create a whole new chain/network. Currently every GPU mining BTC is going to made unprofitable within the next twelve months and a lot of those GPU's may move over to LTC mining. Making LTC GPU hostile will keep the difficulty down making it even more friendly to low power devices (mobile phones, RaspberryPi's, ect...) and web-miners.
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I get around 80KH with my CPUs to mine LTC, I think it's pretty good when you consider the alternative is idle CPU.
If your electricity is free, then yes. OTHERWISE, you're better off taking the money you'd spend on the extra electricity cost of running your CPU at 100%, and buying the LTC that way. I agree with this...but then again adding hashing power to the network helps secure it (even as small as it is now)
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If they both get profitable mining with GPUs will produce less in terms of net profit unless if the price volatility ends up taking the price waaaay higher.
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? WTF did u just say? Speak in logical sentences please...
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I have failed at coding Microcash. We still have not released it. So I come here to make another sock puppet.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!
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Typically on a high-end CPU you get about 20 MH/s on Bitcoin, or about 40 kH/s on Litecoin. On a high-end GPU you can get about 400 MH/s on Bitcoin, or about 400 kH/s on Litecoin.
This is closer to the real world performance that I've see, but regardless, LTC is not GPU hostile. If you want to mine LTC, you're far better off getting a PC with 5 GPUs than getting 5 CPUs, just like BitCoin. Perhaps but keep in mind that the cost to mine with GPUs is NOT free. Hence the fact that it isn't worth while. At $0.0025 and B 0.0005 per LTC, it's not worth mining PERIOD. All I can hope for is adoption by miners who drop out of BTC after the reward split and ASIC release If they both get profitable mining with GPUs will produce less in terms of net profit unless if the price volatility ends up taking the price waaaay higher.
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Typically on a high-end CPU you get about 20 MH/s on Bitcoin, or about 40 kH/s on Litecoin. On a high-end GPU you can get about 400 MH/s on Bitcoin, or about 400 kH/s on Litecoin.
This is closer to the real world performance that I've see, but regardless, LTC is not GPU hostile. If you want to mine LTC, you're far better off getting a PC with 5 GPUs than getting 5 CPUs, just like BitCoin. Perhaps but keep in mind that the cost to mine with GPUs is NOT free. Hence the fact that it isn't worth while.
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You forget that even while mining with a GPU the speed factor is a factor of 10 unlike bitcoin which is more like a factor of 100 or a 1000. Mining litecoins with a GPU is not profitable FYI.
Yes, but please keep the numbers real: it's more like 10x for scrypt (Litecoin) versus 20x for SHA-256d (Bitcoin). Uhh if I mine bitcoin with my dual core processor I might get 2 mh/s With a HD Radeon 6990 I get about 680 Mh/s So you do the math....... The difference is much more than 20x as you claim. But then you are comparing a low-end CPU with a high-end GPU (well, actually a card with 2 high-end GPUs). Typically on a high-end CPU you get about 20 MH/s on Bitcoin, or about 40 kH/s on Litecoin. On a high-end GPU you can get about 400 MH/s on Bitcoin, or about 400 kH/s on Litecoin. The BTC/LTC speed ratio is about 1000:1 for GPUs, but only about 500:1 for CPUs, i.e., CPUs are still two times more efficient than GPUs when it comes to scrypt. THATS THE WHOLE POINT! THE FACT THAT THOSE TWO EXTREMES EXIST TO MINE BITCOINS IS MY POINT. YOU TAKE THE SAME TWO EXTREMES AND USE IT ON LITECOIN MINING AND THE DESPARITY IS LIKE 10X NOT LIKE WITH BITCOIN ITS LIKE 100 OR MORE TIMES....U GOT IT NOW?
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I'd like a site that lists the full up to date historical data of LTC/BTC and LTC/USD.
Then make one.... I want bitcoins now...so give it to me lol
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Is there any chance that litecoin can be changed to again be GPU hostile?
This would be a BRILLIANT idea IMHO ! Let's do it, coblee ! +1 LOL now there would be a semi-early adopter status if you mined with GPUs before the new update to be GPU hostile.
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You forget that even while mining with a GPU the speed factor is a factor of 10 unlike bitcoin which is more like a factor of 100 or a 1000. Mining litecoins with a GPU is not profitable FYI.
Yes, but please keep the numbers real: it's more like 10x for scrypt (Litecoin) versus 20x for SHA-256d (Bitcoin). Uhh if I mine bitcoin with my dual core processor I might get 2 mh/s With a HD Radeon 6990 I get about 680 Mh/s So you do the math....... The difference is much more than 20x as you claim.
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You forget that even while mining with a GPU the speed factor is a factor of 10 unlike bitcoin which is more like a factor of 100 or a 1000. Mining litecoins with a GPU is not profitable FYI.
I believe you meant "mining litecoins is not profittable" That was in response to a post bout "mining litecoins"....i figured it was obvious what I was talking about.
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Is there any chance that litecoin can be changed to again be GPU hostile?
Confidence in Litecoin took a huge blow when it turned out that GPUs were in fact better suited for mining than CPUs, which completely contradicted what the developers claimed at launch. CPU dominance was the primary reason for my interest and investment in Litecoin, and I had great plans for it. That is no longer the case. I will be holding on to my litecoins, though I am now waiting for a true CPU only Crypto-Currency to take it's place. The issue was mitigated at the time by the fact that it was still better to mine Bitcoins and buy litecoins with them, rather than mine LTC via GPU directly. But LTC has officially been thrown into the ring with BTC, and if the exchange is any indication, the outlook is grim. You could literally halve it's trading value right now with a few hundred dollars. If it is to survive, it will need a "killer feature" and serve an actual purpose. I don't want to discourage people, but I think the litecoin devs need a prod and a wakeup. Litecoin still has a healthy network of hashing power, and is in a good position to make a recovery, given the right changes. I am not a developer by any stretch, but with the coming of FPGAs and ASICs onto the Bitcoin scene, coupled with the reward split, there are going to be a lot of Ex-Bitcoin GPUs floating around, and I bet a fair number will find their way onto the Litecoin Network. This may be when Litecoin becomes the "silver" to bitcoin, but there are so many assumptions there, the outlook is a complete wash. Personally, I would like to see the Litecoin decimal move 1 digit to the right ( for a limit of 840,000,000 coins) as I don't believe a mere "4x BTC limit" is going to be enough if LTC becomes a "cash" to Bitcoins "Gold". Having a reward drop of 10% per 10% "remaining coins mined" would also be a great improvement over bitcoins 50% drop per 50% "remaining coins mined". However, GPU hostility is impossible to do with Litecoin, as that sort of change would create a whole new chain/network. You forget that even while mining with a GPU the speed factor is a factor of 10 unlike bitcoin which is more like a factor of 100 or a 1000. Mining litecoins with a GPU is not profitable FYI.
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waste of time...if there is no entertainment value for most...it will fail to be adopted and used.
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I've heard a rumor that Litecoin is now able to be mined with GPUs. If this is true, that will kind of spoil it for those who mine with just CPUs. Any truth to this rumor?
Wow...only now you're hearing the "rumor"? It's true. Period.
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