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7581  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: PROOF: BFL used ALL pre-order moneys for development of their Bitcoin Miners! on: July 30, 2013, 10:07:59 PM
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http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/butterflylabs.com

It's not just you! http://butterflylabs.com looks down from here.

BUT:

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.butterflylabs.com

It's just you. http://www.butterflylabs.com is up.

Seems they haven't configured their DNS to redirect the domain name to www.butterflylabs.com

It went back up, then was off awhile, now it's back up again.

Conclusion:

BFL's COO, COO COO the Clown, is playing with Sonny's Yo-Yo.
7582  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL is Assembling 400 (not 300) Units a Day! on: July 30, 2013, 09:37:02 PM
You can also contact Secret Service if its over $10,000 worth.

 I'm going to step out on a limb here and disagree with this. Unless you are the leader of country, I doubt the Secret Service will be able to help you in this matter.

See below link for what Secret Service covers.

I once was the victim of fraud, i contacted the Secret Service.  

http://www.secretservice.gov/criminal.shtml

If i still remember it correctly the limit has to be at least $10k.  This was back in year 2000.

I think this is the wrong approach.

The Secret Service is not going to allocate valuable resources to investigate uncertified electronical devices prone to heat up and possible catch fire when remotely overclocked by entities in Russia, China, etc., housed in high-rises filled with 100's of people and sensitive data center equipment, when the worse that could happen is the sprinkler system would kick on, thus disrupting a multimillion dollar nerve center.

Since that's not going to happen, I suggest we continue the no permit route. That'll learnt BFL to mess with us monumental assholes.
7583  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL is Assembling 400 (not 300) Units a Day! on: July 30, 2013, 09:26:25 PM
Leawood KS Police already have a file opened.

Contact this person who is heading up the investigation:


JohnF@leawood.org

Det. John Freeman   (913) 642-5555 X209


But what laws could they have violated in local jurisdiction?  Eliminate all crimes against person (which corporations cannot engage in) from local jurisdiction, and you're pretty much left with traffic, substance abuse, and property code violations. 

Things like wire fraud are federal in scope; securities law violations are possibly state, but never local.

Goodness you folks are so naive.

Local law enforcement does the investigation,
they can turn it over to the State Bureau of Investigation  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_Bureau_of_Investigation)
or turn it over to the FBI

It has to start somewhere.

 

You can also contact Secret Service if its over $10,000 worth.

It's not like the Secret Service has a office across the street from one of BFL's known addresses. Or is it? http://www.ckfraud.org/secretsrv.html

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KANSAS CITY 816-460-0600
1150 GRAND AVE
KANSAS CITY, MO 64106

Hey, Joe, go check out this 25 E. 12th St. address.
Goddamn it! Why do I have to be the one to walk across the street to do this?
Buy you lunch at Zaina's.
You're on!

<few minutes later>

Very funny, Mac! Zaina's was closed. Here's my report.
Hehehe!
7584  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Can you contact Tradehill? on: July 30, 2013, 07:38:58 PM
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Address listed on website.

1 Market Street
San Francisco...
....
1 Market Plaza is a huge upscale twin tower plaza complete with restaurants and stores that houses the San Francisco elite businesses like SalesForce, Paramount and some BOA executive offices as well high profile law and investment firms. Without knowing which tower and suite you'd never find them.

I just called the building management office of One Market, a building I have been in many times.  Autodesk has their museum/meeting center/training center there.

Conversation with the building office:

Q: Do you have a tenant called Tradehill, Inc?
A: No. They might be a subtenant of some other tenant, though.
Q: What would happen if someone mailed a letter to Tradehill Inc, One Market?
A: It would probably just sit there.

Any questions?

            John Nagle

Did you know that Bank of America is located at that address?

Simple solution: Ask Jered why that address was used, and consider avoiding the question as unacceptable.
7585  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: PROOF: BFL used ALL pre-order moneys for development of their Bitcoin Miners! on: July 30, 2013, 07:17:43 PM
The calculator at http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/ says that the ROI on certain units is approaching very closely...

Jalapenos: If you don't start mining by August you won't get ROI within 12 months.
Little Singles: If you don't start mining by September you won't get ROI within 12 months.
Singles: If you don't start mining by September you won't get ROI within 12 months.
Minirigs: If you don't start mining by September you won't get ROI within 12 months.


I suspect BFL had worked this out, thus Josh's statement of "backlog cleared by end of September 2013". For what showed so much promise, it sure has turned out bad.

The long term fallout of the debacle has pretty much killed any future ASIC development by BFL. The only way they can survive as a company is to diversify their product range (BitSafe is an example of this).

Will anyone trust BFL anymore, even with a different product range?

Best thing for them is to pack it in or sell the company off to some rich idiot.

Looks like they packed it up:

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7586  Other / Off-topic / Re: Who's the girl? 1BTC bounty on: July 30, 2013, 06:56:15 PM
Nice Smiley

I think that the restrictions are kind of lame, but what can you do?  Rules are there for a reason.  Hopefully, they are there to make sure the community is safe

About as lame as resurrecting an old thread to comment upon with only a four letter word. Needless to say, with that post you brought attention to yourself and will now probably be on some watch list--NICE!
7587  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL is Assembling 400 (not 300) Units a Day! on: July 30, 2013, 03:43:23 PM
quote:

"At what point does one just give up? I feel like I'm so close to getting what I've waiting so long for, but I have lack any confidence that these people actually know what they are doing and will deliver. They have lied, and shut us out so many times how can anyone believe what they say. Often they can't even sync with each other to get the right story out. I can definitely understand bumps in the road, it happens, but what is being witnessed is just total lack of professionalism, and competence. Really? we are shipping units without power supplies. So the customers are being sent broken devices, that they must repair themselves, yet the price goes up on their products instead of compensation, well they offer "compensation" of sorts, to some. But even then is it really worth it? Since others are shipping functional devices in less time. those credits aren't worth much.


I guess all of the bragging about no one will be able to deliver a device more that uses less power is true. The devices they are shipping consumes exactly 0 watts, 0, volts."

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/4071-what-point.html

And we patiently await your thread to be moderated

And there it goes! thread is deleted!

If they put as much effort into their product line as they did into their forum moderation they might meet their deadline. No wonder everyone on their forum loves them

And this is exactly why for the past 30 days plus days I've been spreading the word about BFL on other forums, comment sections, etc., under a different pseudonym(s) because I don't want my innocent sockpuppet(s) to get sued.

I am surprised that Josh hasn't yet figured out who I am on BFL's forum. I'll give you a clue, Josh: Here's a quarter. That should help him narrow it down.
7588  Other / Off-topic / Re: Colorado town to issue drone-hunting licences on: July 30, 2013, 03:28:48 PM
Oh, man... small plane pilots are going to be shitting themselves if they have to fly over.

As will bald eagles.

During deer season, people often mistaken a cow for a deer. Luckily, a similar mistake is not possible while hunting drones, for they don't resemble anything in nature.

For example:

vs
     Drone                                                   Tree

No comparison!
7589  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Demographics Polling] Personality Type 2013-2014 on: July 30, 2013, 03:18:10 PM
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Extroverted (E) 83.87% Introverted (I) 16.13%
Intuitive (N) 60.47% Sensing (S) 39.53%
Thinking (T) 51.61% Feeling (F) 48.39%
Perceiving (P) 56.25% Judging (J) 43.75%

Your type is: ENTP

ENTP - "Inventor". Enthusiastic interest in everything and always sensitive to possibilities. Non-conformist and innovative. 3.2% of the total population.

I'll assume the above is a good thing. BTW, can the above be used against me in a court of law?

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ENTP
Quick, ingenious, stimulating, alert, and outspoken. Resourceful in solving new and challenging problems. Adept at generating conceptual possibilities and then analyzing them strategically. Good at reading other people. Bored by routine, will seldom do the same thing the same way, apt to turn to one new interest after another.

Gulp!
7590  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Demographics Polling] Occupation 2013-2014 on: July 30, 2013, 03:09:36 PM
Self-Employed(?)
7591  Other / Off-topic / Re: Colorado town to issue drone-hunting licences on: July 30, 2013, 03:06:41 PM
Dateline: Tor

Bounties Paid for Drone Predators

All Bounties Paid via Bitcoin:

$250 for a wing (arm)
$1,000 for a torso.
$10,000 for a functionally working body not yet disassembled.
7592  Other / Off-topic / This is the cheer up DavinciJ15 thread. Please contribute. on: July 30, 2013, 02:55:09 PM
Hey, Davinci. Just wanted to say that I've always considered you an alright guy.

Later, bud.

Thanks you will never know how much I needed that right about now.

Cheers

Davinci

I'll assume with that statement there's something unpleasant going on in your life at the moment, and if that be the case I'll speak on part of many fellow bitcoiners in wishing a speedy resolve.

I'm assuming DavinciJ15 may be going through some trying times at the moment, thus felt it prudent to sent some cheers his way. I'm not privy to what's going on in his life, of which should be no concern to any of us. I also don't know Davinci personally, but assume others here may have a close online relationship with him.

That said, please take the time to string some words together and make some magic happen. The best I can do under the circumstances is to start this thread.

Now, get a pennin' and lets cheer his black ass up! <not meant as a racist comment>
7593  Other / Off-topic / Re: BitForce SC - Pre Order List on: July 30, 2013, 02:41:37 PM
Hey, Davinci. Just wanted to say that I've always considered you an alright guy.

Later, bud.

Thanks you will never know how much I needed that right about now.

Cheers

Davinci

I'll assume with that statement there's something unpleasant going on in your life at the moment, and if that be the case I'll speak on part of many fellow bitcoiners in wishing a speedy resolve.
7594  Other / Off-topic / Re: Petition to get BF Labs Inc. to sue me. Please sign. on: July 30, 2013, 02:37:38 PM
Oddly, no letter yet from BFL's lawyers. I find it fuckin' amazing that a person tries to get sue for the same thing BFL threatened others with if they continue to following through with their lawsuit toward them, yet can't get sued.

BFL has lawyers?  Are these the same ones who set up their corporation?  <--- trick question!

I think the only lawyer any principals of BFL need is a good criminal defense lawyer, emphasis on the "criminal" part.

Better Call Saul!

Meet Sonny's brother: www.linkedin.com/pub/greg-vleisides/8/85b/610
7595  Other / Off-topic / Re: Petition to get BF Labs Inc. to sue me. Please sign. on: July 30, 2013, 07:37:10 AM
A cease and desist order?

No! Damn it! What I got in the mail today was the latest sales flyer from Ace Hardware. This weekend only there will be a storewide 25% off sale. Ain't that amazing?

Oddly, no letter yet from BFL's lawyers. I find it fuckin' amazing that a person tries to get sue for the same thing BFL threatened others with if they continue to following through with their lawsuit toward them, yet can't get sued.

See what I tried to do for my fellow bitcoiners? Compare my act with what BFL does to their customers, of which they've so cleverly dubbed monumental assholes.

Any company that allows their COO to call their customers monumental assholes and doesn't take one iota action toward that individual is a company who has their days numbered.

BFL has dug their own grave, yet they keep on digging.

I will try this one more time. Sonny Vleisides is a thief and will close down BF Labs Inc., taking all the pre-order money on deposit with him wherever he decides to run after his probation period is up come September 15, 2013.
7596  Other / Off-topic / Re: Petition to get BF Labs Inc. to sue me. Please sign. on: July 30, 2013, 06:02:42 AM
So far, two wrong guesses. Hint: It was something?
7597  Other / Off-topic / Re: Petition to get BF Labs Inc. to sue me. Please sign. on: July 30, 2013, 05:00:28 AM
You'll never guess what I received in the mail today. One guess per person.
7598  Other / Off-topic / Re: BitForce SC - Pre Order List on: July 30, 2013, 04:58:18 AM
All sales are final unless we fail to perform.  That includes both performance and shipping targets.  60 days past target and we'll happily refund your purchase.  If you would really like a refund anyway, just ask and we'll probably be able to take care of you.  Nonetheless, we reserve the right to handle it on a case by case basis.

 So I guess you reserved the right to not handle refunds anymore, huh ? Wink

I deserve the right to stick it up BFL's ass every chance I get for payment on how Josh has treated their investors.

order Number 1864 shipped but not received
order number 12466 shipped but not received

Hey, Davinci. Just wanted to say that I've always considered you an alright guy.

Later, bud.
7599  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs shipping 300 units a day on: July 30, 2013, 04:54:08 AM
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Our intention has always been to do our best and ship as fast as we can. It just sucks when we actually ship this slowly and though many of you don't believe it, we are more frustrated than you are.

Can somebody explain to me like I'm five how BFL could be more frustrated than the monumental assholes who afforded them a comfortable livelihood, while they wait for their pre-ordered products, sans fewer parts than paid for plus extra s/h cost, to trickle through the hands of 35 competent(?) employees, half of which playing Minecraft on the clock, hence being behind on their customer service duties?

Apologies for the question the above not being put in simple form, but...
7600  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs shipping 300 units a day on: July 30, 2013, 03:45:32 AM
quote:

BFL_Jody  , 07-29-2013 at 09:50 PM

... It just sucks when we actually ship this slowly ...

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/258-monday-july-29-2013-shipping-update.html


That should help get the backlog all cleared up in the next ~60 days
I thought it was 33 days?


Josh just announced that all pre-orders will be shipped out within 29 days.
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