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761  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Double spending attack on: February 22, 2017, 08:57:54 PM

Say goodbye to that money.  Gone.  Sorry about the bad luck.

This is how double spend works.  They set up a transaction (first spend), then when it falls as unsuccessful, they spend the same money on a different address/transaction (second spend). 

The first transaction 'didn't happen' like the guy said above.  Therefore, you are out of your money and fucked. 

Bitcoin is very complex.  Most people just get robbed and then quit.  Please be careful.  Anyone can just log in to your computer and get all your savings in an instant. 


True, it's quite complicated, up until now the only thing I know is how to send and receive money on my online wallet. Still confused with the technical stuff. Does this mean he wouldn't get his money back? That would suck  Angry  Do you think this is possible to avoid? I'm currently learning stuff like Photoshop and later I'll take some CAD seminar. Planning to freelance IRL and probably also advertise my service OL in this forum. This incident made me uneasy. What if I already sent them the finished project and then the payment I received ended up like OP's transaction? If the client is like half-way accross the globe, obviously I wouldn't be able to sue to them (or at least show up outside their office to pester them to give me my payment) Sad

You must be very smart and very fast to get your bitcoin into your second wallet before the original sender double spends your money.  If you don't understand where your keys to your second wallet (protected) are, you won't do this right and you'll lose all your money.  You can't just leave your bitcoin floating out there where the other guy can spend it again. 

Please be careful.  You can lose everything in an instant.  One mistake, and your money is gone forever. 
762  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We will never be able to convince them with argument. Fork now. on: February 22, 2017, 07:44:37 PM
Let's get the BU people together and set a plan to initiate the fork now. 

Yes, please!

OK - we've got about the same hash power as Blockstream now. 

We are calling our fork 'Bitcoin'. 
Yours is called 'Blockstream Bitcoin'



763  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / We will never be able to convince them with argument. Fork now. on: February 22, 2017, 06:33:18 PM
We will never get Blockstream to come to their senses with argument. The debate has gone on for two years.  Continuing the impasse does further damage to the network.

It is now time to bite the bullet and fork Bitcoin.  Some losses will occur in the early days, but two strong systems will rise from the ashes soon enough. 

Let's get the BU people together and set a plan to initiate the fork now. 

We will never convince Blockstream into consensus. 
764  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Double spending attack on: February 22, 2017, 06:23:14 PM
Hello friends i am much worried ...
2 days ago one exchanger send me btc but still not confirmed.Few minutes ago my transaction had reversed back to exchanger account.
what is a double spending attack or not?
and how payment reversed.and now a time double spending attack is possible?

Say goodbye to that money.  Gone.  Sorry about the bad luck.

This is how double spend works.  They set up a transaction (first spend), then when it falls as unsuccessful, they spend the same money on a different address/transaction (second spend). 

The first transaction 'didn't happen' like the guy said above.  Therefore, you are out of your money and fucked. 

Bitcoin is very complex.  Most people just get robbed and then quit.  Please be careful.  Anyone can just log in to your computer and get all your savings in an instant. 

765  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: i am coding a coin,what is better 2 confirmations or 6? on: February 22, 2017, 04:45:14 PM
and anyone know where i can change that?i couldnt find
Two is better if you are trying to steal the coins away, 6 is better if you are trying to prevent people from stealing those coins.
766  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bank of Canada calling for Cryptocurrency intervention? on: February 21, 2017, 05:21:29 PM
The centralized Bank of Canada has went forward and made the bold claim that "Digital Currencies Will Not Be Safe Without Government Intervention" and they feel that without government intervention / support none of these cryptocurrencies such as bitcoin will be able to thrive and be used. The claim does make sense in the fact that governments will be the only people that can fully allow a currency to be adopted without an issue.

What are your thoughts on Bitcoin needing government intervention / centralization to survive?

Article - https://news.bitcoin.com/digital-currencies-need-government-intervention-bank-canada/
Governments believe the anal sex is not safe without government intervention.  This is the raison d'etre for governments - to intervene where they are neither needed nor useful.  People who work for the government want to 'intervene' in all of your matters - anal sex and money and others.  Tell governments to go fuck themselves.  It is important to resist these stupid fucks every step of the way.
767  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Fork you. on: February 21, 2017, 04:36:05 PM
The fork is coming soon.  Core will go with SegWit 1MB.  BU will go with >=2MB no SegWit.  After two weeks and one year, what do you think the ratio of value will be Core:BU?

RawDog says 14 days after fork, ratio will be: 2.8:1.  1:1 after one year.



I really dont think that a Hard fork will happen,  it will be costly for us all if it does and bitcoin may never recover.  Undecided
This is completely wrong.  A fork is free - it costs nothing.  The only people who lose are the speculators who wish the price will go to the moon.  If we fork, we will have two very high performance networks each with its own functions and advantages.  Price may go down for 6 months, but then we will have two great networks that can be built on according to their particular advantages.  Lightning can go do their thing, 8MB can go do their thing.  Everyone gets a pro-rata share on each network.  Total fairness.  Things might be a little chaotic in the beginning, but ultimately we get diversity which is awesome.  Everyone wins.  Even the speculators will recover in time.  Short term speculators get fucked. 

Fork Now!!!!
768  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does anybody know who's sending these transactions? on: February 21, 2017, 02:52:14 PM
Here's what they're planning next - http://bitjump.io/
What a cheesy-looking CEO

Whenever an arab gets a hot looking girlfriend, they have to put her in their bio picture to let everyone know they are getting laid with some quality.  It comes off as cheezy.  This dumb fuck has a hot girlfriend and a fake Italian name so he really looks particularly greasy. 
769  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I have found a wallet with 40 BTC on: February 21, 2017, 02:00:38 AM
It was a private key, i found it in a forum.
Not in the darknet, in the clear Internet.

Best Regards!

So, it depends on yourself dude. But the new car already waited for you. Just take them if there is no someone else try to claim such amount of btc. That's worth for $42.000 and good amount for everyone in here.  Grin
It's yours now but since you do not make an effort to have that amount, it would be very nice to shower your blessings here or to the people who really need money, FYI I'm one of them, so you can include me. lol.... Seriously, that money is yours now but do not just spend it but rather do consider using it for another investment by transferring to another wallet and hold it longer, the price now is increasing, you'll have great rewards the longer you hold.
If he gives anything away, he should avoid giving to moron beggars - so that leaves you out.  Giving to moron beggars promotes some of the worst behavior in bitcoin community. 
770  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FUCK! The Bitcoin is dead again. This time for sure. on: February 21, 2017, 01:22:36 AM
It's not going to die anytime soon.
Only the Ponzi scheme portion continues - the technical portion is totally fucked and broken.  Speculators thrive.  Developers have ruined the protocol forever.  Blockstream's failed takeover screwed so many companies. 
771  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FUCK! The Bitcoin is dead again. This time for sure. on: February 21, 2017, 12:48:46 AM
I guess the previous four posts are signature spam?  Why the fuck don't the admin's get rid of that stupid feature.  Abusers should be terminated without warning.  Old 'known' accounts maybe can spread a little of that.  But, when a low post guy says something completely dumb - ban his dumb Chinese ass.
772  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I have found a wallet with 40 BTC on: February 20, 2017, 06:32:21 PM
Hi,
i have found a wallet with 40 BTC.
The last transaction was 2011.
Can i take the money?
Or is it not legal?
Please Help!

Best Regards!

You found the keys to a car. Can you take the car? Is it legal?

Don't be an idiot.  The money is yours.  It is not illegal to transfer bitcoin if you have the key to do it.  Having the key means it is your bitcoin.  Take it and transfer it to another address before another key holder does that. 

773  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it possible to hack BTC on that address only by knowing the bitcoin address? on: February 18, 2017, 07:16:32 PM
Actually, I want to know how to attack the bitcoin address.
Get an address with a high amount of bitcoin in it. How can a hacker attack this address? There is no other information. There's only address information and bitcoin amount.

This is actually very easy. 

1) buy a pretty good quality computer.  Best if fully dedicated and separate from your normal computer.
2) download and install Vanitygen
3) 64 vanitygen64 (64 is faster and works better than normal vanitygen)
4) start scan on the address like this at the command line: vanitygen64 1FuckYouc6zrtHbnqcHdhrSVhcxgpJgfds

It will take some time for sure.  But soon you will have the key for that address. 

Don't let the morons around here tell you it is impossible.  That is just plain wrong.  It is scientifically provable that this works.  Dumbasses who don't understand statistics love declaring this impossible.  Vanitygen guesses millions of times per second.  With enough seconds, it is not impossible. 


Lol I love your word soon...
it is quiet quick when you want an adress which start with some letters and that you don't care about the rest.
But if you are targetting a precise and full address, here is a table for an estimate of time :

vanity    difficulty    average time
1B    22    < 1s
1Bi    1,330    < 1s
1Bit    77,178    < 1s
1Bitc    4,476,342 (4.48E+6)    < 10s
1Bitco    259,627,881 (2.6E+8)    3 minutes
1Bitcoi    15,058,417,127 (1.506E+10)    3 hours
1Bitcoin    8.7339E+11    1 week
1BitcoinE    5.0657E+13    1 year
1BitcoinEa    2.9381E+15    60 years
1BitcoinEat    1.7041E+17    3,500 years
1BitcoinEate    9.8837E+18    200,000 years
1BitcoinEater    5.7325E+20    11,700,000 years
1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSend    1.6209E+47    3.3E+33 or 3.3 decillion years.

So yeah if several thousand of years is soon for you, sure start it now Wink


I said you have to buy a 'good quality computer'.  You probably have a piece of shit you got at Radio Shack 10 years ago. 
774  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it possible to hack BTC on that address only by knowing the bitcoin address? on: February 18, 2017, 05:53:33 PM
Actually, I want to know how to attack the bitcoin address.
Get an address with a high amount of bitcoin in it. How can a hacker attack this address? There is no other information. There's only address information and bitcoin amount.

This is actually very easy. 

1) buy a pretty good quality computer.  Best if fully dedicated and separate from your normal computer.
2) download and install Vanitygen
3) 64 vanitygen64 (64 is faster and works better than normal vanitygen)
4) start scan on the address like this at the command line: vanitygen64 1FuckYouc6zrtHbnqcHdhrSVhcxgpJgfds

It will take some time for sure.  But soon you will have the key for that address. 

Don't let the morons around here tell you it is impossible.  That is just plain wrong.  It is scientifically provable that this works.  Dumbasses who don't understand statistics love declaring this impossible.  Vanitygen guesses millions of times per second.  With enough seconds, it is not impossible. 
775  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it possible to hack BTC on that address only by knowing the bitcoin address? on: February 18, 2017, 05:47:20 PM
Bitcoin system is safe by nature.
In general, hacking incidents come at the expense of user mistakes.
As far as I know there is an estimation of the seed words by the brute force method.

Is it possible to attack only the bitcoin address? For example, I have a BTC address. And there is a very high amount of BTC at this btc address.

Is this BTC address hackable?
Definitely.  This is the problem with Bitcoin.  It is not 100% certain.  If somebody works out the math between the address and the key, your money is gone.  You can't get it back.  Once they move it, say goodbye to it.

For now, just cross your fingers and hope they won't learn the math relationship between the address and the key.  But when they do, it is over.  It's just science.  Lots of things once impossible, are totally possible today.
776  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What we're doing with Bitcoin Unlimited, simply on: February 13, 2017, 08:58:54 PM
It's time for Core developers to show more flexibility and be responsible, if majority of miners see that their future interests are at risk just by refusing larger blocks they might start to think about switching to BU and Bitcoin Core suddenly becomes the minority and kicked off from the scene.
Without sacrifice nothing great could be achieved, you think you can stay on top while ignoring the reasonable concerns of community?

pools know its not a "kick off the network if BU is adopted"

pools hold back on any changes if there isint already majority node acceptance.

pools dont care much about 'fee's as their income. for decades they see fee's as just a bonus. its the block reward that is their "income" they wont do crap that would hurt their "income"

60% of pools are undecided because even though nodes are not voting for segwit, pools know that nodes matter. so they are waiting for unofficial majority to mitigate orphan risk (this is not a split risk. just a single chain with orphans dropping off the side)

Forget the technical arguments.  The raging dishonesty and censorship is all you need to know about to have very good reason to stop Core/Blockstream.  The DDOSing of XT was a clear indicator that nothing about them is fair and reasonable.

Blockstream needs to die very soon.  Today is not soon enough.
777  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin on: February 13, 2017, 07:37:38 PM
asshole
778  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin on: February 13, 2017, 07:09:10 PM

No matter the amount of credit you would like to give him, or the credit I would give, the thread is about the fact that the stupid fucking plonker has given himself this credit. 

I don't really know the true value that hashcash may have been, but one thing is for certain, Adam Back wants to extend his claim to the origin of bitcoin so that he might gain additional credibility and move the network towards a proprietary off chain solution that will return money to the investors of Blockstream and royally fuck the natural progression of bitcoin development.  For this reason, I don't give a shit what Adam Back did in the past - good or bad - what he is doing now is poison to the network. 

If people don't stand up and resist this move, Bitcoin moves to a system controlled by a tiny few with a profit motive.  Wonderful scaling can come in many forms that have nothing at all to do with clever 'off chain' tricks that move profit/fees from miners to private investors.

779  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BUcoin expossed on: February 13, 2017, 05:00:04 PM
Majority of nodes run segwit supported bitcoin core nodes, so it all comes down to the dumb ass miners to realize their mistake, but since they are technologically illiterate and just think as meathead businessmen, it will take time for them to realize the damage that anyone not aiming for segwit + lightning network is doing to bitcoin in the long term. Anyone supporting BU in 2017 is out of their mind. I wish we could get over with this nightmare and move no. Once we get segwit + LN and possibly more cool stuff coming soon for further scaling we can conquer the world. They know this so they will keep using the divide and conquer method on the community to guarantee bitcoin never fully takes off.

Does the fact that the people behind LN are lying cunts have anything to do with the fact that miners don't want to join them?
780  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin on: February 10, 2017, 09:48:58 PM
Or resort to your chestnut in accusing him of fucking his mother's ass.
No need for any of that.
Sent it as a gesture so to speak.
https://blockchain.info/tx/07c6d09d61acd0797e702d914bb8a330df763c5c39a54b35325972bb350a5cb2
Thanks for the buck!!!  Smiley  A man of his word.  Hard to find around here. 


Gleb - you are filthy pig of a very high order.  I have no information whatever about what this guy is fucking and I have no interest in that at all.  Your thinking has serious defects and you should consider whether mental health medicine might help.
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