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781  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re:[ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous: DASH deleted posts you would like to keep on: July 13, 2015, 08:51:40 AM
Geepers, my posts are being deleted from July 2014!!!  I can't believe it!  I'm glad I took a copy of the thread a few months ago, just wish I had done it again more recently.

Do you think they're doing this to other threads?  I think not.  Gee I wonder why?

yes it is
782  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Scrypt.CC | Scrypt Cloud Mining on: July 13, 2015, 08:27:47 AM
Possibly the funniest thing is that all the Scrypt.cc defenders are so busy calling FUD and Trolls and losing their shit that they don't even realize that nearly every other page has people providing viable alternatives.

I can tell you guys now that if anyone were to fly down to Brazil to find Marcello Santos and the "information Technology" company that was posted way way back in the thread that neither exist. Brazil is only where the website is hosted from, "Marcello Santos" is only a name and might as well be "Jesus, your lord and unsavior" because there is nothing to prove the name, I looked for information on the company myself and it does not exist.
So there is no registered company, really?

The only reference I found to the Scrypt.cc parent company mentioned "tecnologia-da-informacao" (translated to information technology which is a loose term meaning computer store), was "Brazil Ltda Information Technology: the optional ticket scam"

http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&u=http://www.adaobraga.com.br/brasil-tecnologia-da-informacao-ltda-o-golpe-do-boleto-facultativo/&prev=search

Maybe I wasn't searching hard enough because I don't have any money invested, the company was/is "tecnologia-da-informacao" located in Curitiba Brazil. The phone number listed on their whois for scrypt.cc is fake so even if you did actually find a company that might match, you could still not prove conclusively they are the same company unless Marshmellow Scamtos himself had his ID witnessed by a guarantor, video proving his own identity, the mining wharehouse, and proved those miners were in fact mining.

And yes, I do actually research things.
783  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CON] PayCon™ HI POS - Get Yer Theme On Competition! (19/06/15) on: July 13, 2015, 06:03:26 AM
@Catotune. THANK YOU!!! It is such a pleasure to hear kind words for my work. I put my heart and soul into my site. I do it for the community, and my goal is to officially "the best cryptocurrency website in the world". Ive been in crypto for over 2 years full time, and I am VERY careful what coins I endorse as I want to keep my good name with the community. Thank you again. For those of you that have not seen my website, please take a moment and visit me www.bitcoinlasvegas.net

This is all free to the community. No ads, trolls, fud, or bs.

Based on results, Im going in the right direction. Traffic increases every week. Now around 2500-2800 hits a week.


Im working on something VERY exciting and unique. Im going to have a page dedicated to all of the latest wallets out there, hosted on my site (not mega), with stats, in alphabetical order with logos. Youll also have a link to .conf files (including all addnodes I can find) and bootstrap.dat files. Sound good? Wink  


Vegas

That is a fantastic idea! You should also see what you can do for charging to host these as well, make some extra money off it beyond ad revenue.

Btw in the build i had to reinclude "uint256_t.h" to walletmodel.h, he keeps coming back lol  Wink
Btw i went with cyanotic, looks super sweet.

Because when building on Windows it will fail with it included so I'm thinking I'll leave it out for now and make a comment of building for 64 bit.

YES!!! PLEASE!!! 64-bit win binary build would rock!!!! 32-bit win binary is flawless. 64-bit build just sounds damn good!!!

If con got on Bittrex, it would rule them all!!! Just hearing about the possibility of this I put highest bid in on C-cex for 48,000 coins, if anyone wants to fill it. Big or small. Thanks.

Also while Im here, I wanted to personally thank Dev Crestington for being only 1 of 2 devs I truly trust. I have no hestitation when buying con ever. My site has over 1000 coins listed with stats and information. I have a special page dedicated to my opinion on which coins to put their money into. Ive chosen 4 of over 1300 listed on my site and Paycon is in the 4. Thank you again dev for being amazing and dedicated and honest!! You are very rare, sir!!! http://bitcoinlasvegas.net/the-best-coin-to-be-invested-in-2015/  (This article gets a few hundred hits DAILY, as it is ranked #1 on google for similar search terms like "best altcoin to be invested in for 2015). 2800+ page hits total, as of today , and I just posted it recently. My way of saying thank you to the dev, and making Con even stronger than ever.

Vegas

Hey Vegas, I just wanted to let you know that I really like your email newsletter - I signed up a while ago, and it's alerted me to new coins as well as wallet updates to coins that I already hold. Furthermore, I decided yesterday to invest in PayCon since you recommended it, and I was pleasantly surprised to see that it's a great staking coin with the incredibly helpful multisend/stake-for-charity feature in-wallet I'd been used to in HYP, CAP, and HBN.

It's funny - I'd known about this coin for several months, but always thought it was a total joke; however now that I'm really looking into it, I see that it's actually a serious  and remarkably well-developed coin.

I've actually been in Crypto on a daily basis for almost 2 years now and was interested in Proof of Stake only Coins before NXT was even around and had about a year of self-learning through trial and error before ever taking on the project, around a dozen alpha/beta coins that were never traded, daily activity on Bitcointalk researching through hundreds of sourcecodes and whitepapers (most are not whitepapers), are learning everything related to coding of Blockchains with no previous experience, just google and a lot of fail.

CON has those features so that you can laugh and poke fun but when you open it up you realize that it's actually one of the most advanced Coins, the wallet is absolutely beautiful and has advanced rapidly in a short period of time. PayCon is only 7 months in, it will be interesting to look back and see the progress after 1 year.

Original CON wallet



CON wallet after 7 months

784  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Scrypt.CC | Scrypt Cloud Mining on: July 13, 2015, 05:00:10 AM
Possibly the funniest thing is that all the Scrypt.cc defenders are so busy calling FUD and Trolls and losing their shit that they don't even realize that nearly every other page has people providing viable alternatives.

I can tell you guys now that if anyone were to fly down to Brazil to find Marcello Santos and the "information Technology" company that was posted way way back in the thread that neither exist. Brazil is only where the website is hosted from, "Marcello Santos" is only a name and might as well be "Jesus, your lord and unsavior" because there is nothing to prove the name, I looked for information on the company myself and it does not exist.
785  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Operation Shitcoin Cleanout and Clean Up Has Begun- Join the Revolution- Re-open on: July 13, 2015, 04:10:06 AM
If it's still around TransitCoin [TNT] which was launched (or maybe not even launched) as a 100% premine with no open source and you could only get them on the TNT exchange, which turned out to be a Cryptsy account after some of the more well known Blockchain detectives traced the addresses after a false bounty for 10,000 XPY was made.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1072935.0

Can we evolve this to also include Cloudmining Ponzi Schemes? Like say... Scrypt.cc?
786  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CON] PayCon™ HI POS - Get Yer Theme On Competition! (19/06/15) on: July 13, 2015, 03:16:29 AM
Hey dev , thanks for the beta, LOVE IT!!! One small thing, file name is 1.0.8 and wallet->about reports 1.7. Im going to guess its 1.0.7 beta. Just mentioning it so others dont get confused. Thanks again for all you do.

Ive posted it on my site: http://bitcoinlasvegas.net/paycon-coin-con-releases-new-beta-wallet-v1-0-7-july-10th-2015/

Vegas

Yes it was 1.0.7 Beta as the version. The wallet version doesn't actually mean much, it's the protocol version in which allows or disallows connections to certain versions, I will change the file name and thanks for pointing that out.
787  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Scrypt.CC | Scrypt Cloud Mining on: July 12, 2015, 08:32:00 AM
Don't get me wrong some of you go out of your way to find the truth and help people by protecting them from scams and other Ponzi schemes but at the same time it's almost as if u want scrypt.cc to fail just waiting to be there to point fingers and saying to everyone I told you. Once u have posted your proof and show people the truth it's up to them now to let me make their own choices as it is their money. By repeating over and over just starts to get annoying not helpful anymore. If someone wants to invest without researching again it's their problem from that point not yours or mine. U can't save everyone not matter what u say there is always someone will do opposite. With most investments usually has some form of risk of losing your money some way or another. How anyone has this much time to be here consistently repeating the same things must have not much of a life.

Really, shill? That all you got?

A complaint about how frequently we keep the subject of the proof of scam current in this topic; so it doesn't get buried by sock puppet shill posts, BTW; and then an ad hominem about how sad and lonely etc. we must be.

Yeah I'm just gonna go right ahead and keep up the effort along with the other decent human beings here who are determined to force this scam to stop operating, not because we want to laugh at its victims but because we want these toxic and harmful scams out of crypto.

No really FUCK HEAD, its about people being able to make their own choice without a Fucking Dictator telling up what to do. Thanks for the info but i am sure if we are on the internet quite easy we don't need your help.

Get a fucking life cause hell if your like this people on the net you definitely don't have a wife or husband. The guy above you called a shill was stating a FACT, which you couldn't give 2 shits about. If i was standing in front you with a wouldn't hesitate to shoot, do the world a favour, but wait we're all stupid and need cryptodevils help.

I'm pretty sure it's an opinion, not a fact. Why are you getting upset about it anyways? If it were a real mining company then they would be liable for the lost funds if it were hacked and it would not matter what anyone says because nothing could affect the mining rewards.
788  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Scrypt.CC | Scrypt Cloud Mining on: July 12, 2015, 07:31:13 AM
Don't get me wrong some of you go out of your way to find the truth and help people by protecting them from scams and other Ponzi schemes but at the same time it's almost as if u want scrypt.cc to fail just waiting to be there to point fingers and saying to everyone I told you. Once u have posted your proof and show people the truth it's up to them now to let me make their own choices as it is their money. By repeating over and over just starts to get annoying not helpful anymore. If someone wants to invest without researching again it's their problem from that point not yours or mine. U can't save everyone not matter what u say there is always someone will do opposite. With most investments usually has some form of risk of losing your money some way or another. How anyone has this much time to be here consistently repeating the same things must have not much of a life.

Yes it should fail, ones less Ponzi scheme sucking money out of Crypto. If you post proof once then people will not look and get suckered in by the ones trying to get out, go for investments in which you always have control over your own funds.
789  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Scrypt.CC | Scrypt Cloud Mining on: July 12, 2015, 07:26:13 AM
You know Crypto Devil.

You said SCC not mining how many time almost 50 times a day... so thats why im laughing on you. YOU ARE devil.. if scc will down. THATS NOT OUR FAULT ADMIN and also GOD will know what happening ryt now.

If the site Go to end i its not our fault its admin fault
god will punish who is real scammer.

Now back to you so. You think site is not mining at all ryt? Why are u trolling people here making all investor of scc is idiots are u nuts?
Calling scc investors idiot ... the reason why people making investment on scc because of the admin trusterability Attitude and fixing all the problem i know admin is very busy man thats why always have delay..

if you continue making trolling other here gods is here for us and Karma will be put it u and your family for sure. So be nice be friendly... you are also human with feelings... Ryt. Ok thats all Godbless us.

Absolutely agree with you my friend, i know that there is not better investissment cloudminer then scc, but people keep saying that is a scam and ponzi or i dont know what !!
Why you people are you saying that, ive been with this website since 2014 and i didnt lost a single SATOSHI and no one dose, it just people keep lying and trolling on it.

Well i know just one thing, that i trust scrypt.cc and i trust admin, and i'll never sell with 300 or 400 SAT, and if scc is going down, then i go down with it, and if this is the end, then it alsow the and for me !

For the people who are on here everyday saying its a scam or a ponzi and they are not really mining and they have all the proof in the world to back up their claims so my question is why are u all still here? Your trying to warn people to stay clear of scrypt.cc? I think we all get the point by now as you are repeating the same things everyday you don't have anything better to do with your time? If it's a scam or whatever it's not your problem move on. find something better to do with your time.

Yes, it a repeated effort in order to stop people from investing and losing their money.

But people beleeb wot dey wont to beleeb and invist there herd erned munies in obvius scams an tell other sheeple to invest too and so it has to be repeeted over and over agen until it colappses undur its own wait.

How many people you want it to stop invest or involve in investment program? exactly how many people?

Just the new ones going into Ponzi mining schemes in which you resign your money over to some anonymous person in the hopes they will be generous enough to give away some scraps, can't help the ones already in and most will lose money.
790  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Scrypt.CC | Scrypt Cloud Mining on: July 12, 2015, 06:27:08 AM
You know Crypto Devil.

You said SCC not mining how many time almost 50 times a day... so thats why im laughing on you. YOU ARE devil.. if scc will down. THATS NOT OUR FAULT ADMIN and also GOD will know what happening ryt now.

If the site Go to end i its not our fault its admin fault
god will punish who is real scammer.

Now back to you so. You think site is not mining at all ryt? Why are u trolling people here making all investor of scc is idiots are u nuts?
Calling scc investors idiot ... the reason why people making investment on scc because of the admin trusterability Attitude and fixing all the problem i know admin is very busy man thats why always have delay..

if you continue making trolling other here gods is here for us and Karma will be put it u and your family for sure. So be nice be friendly... you are also human with feelings... Ryt. Ok thats all Godbless us.

Absolutely agree with you my friend, i know that there is not better investissment cloudminer then scc, but people keep saying that is a scam and ponzi or i dont know what !!
Why you people are you saying that, ive been with this website since 2014 and i didnt lost a single SATOSHI and no one dose, it just people keep lying and trolling on it.

Well i know just one thing, that i trust scrypt.cc and i trust admin, and i'll never sell with 300 or 400 SAT, and if scc is going down, then i go down with it, and if this is the end, then it alsow the and for me !

For the people who are on here everyday saying its a scam or a ponzi and they are not really mining and they have all the proof in the world to back up their claims so my question is why are u all still here? Your trying to warn people to stay clear of scrypt.cc? I think we all get the point by now as you are repeating the same things everyday you don't have anything better to do with your time? If it's a scam or whatever it's not your problem move on. find something better to do with your time.

Yes, it a repeated effort in order to stop people from investing and losing their money.

But people beleeb wot dey wont to beleeb and invist there herd erned munies in obvius scams an tell other sheeple to invest too and so it has to be repeeted over and over agen until it colappses undur its own wait.
791  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CON] PayCon™ HI POS - Get Yer Theme On Competition! (19/06/15) on: July 12, 2015, 06:16:39 AM
good job im back it has been along time and I think things are going to work out cresting as I didn't think you had it in you after I watched 2015 coin die being Canadian but you picked up the reigns and im back on board with  20 k or so to see if this can make some coin

I wasn't part of 2015 Coin in any way but CON has been progressing at every step of the way. TOR integration is progressing nicely and into the final stages, lets make some mf'ing Coin!
792  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CON] PayCon X13 POW/POS - Now on C-CEX, POW-POS Phase- Get Your CON On!! on: July 11, 2015, 07:27:35 PM
ok im back to staking this Smiley

Try to post on the new OP https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=937480.0 instead of here

Muddafudda isn't updating the OP here and the wallet on the first page is version 1.0.2 and not usable on the current network.
793  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CON] PayCon™ HI POS - Get Yer Theme On Competition! (19/06/15) on: July 11, 2015, 06:42:49 PM
Btw in the build i had to reinclude "uint256_t.h" to walletmodel.h, he keeps coming back lol  Wink
Btw i went with cyanotic, looks super sweet.

Because when building on Windows it will fail with it included so I'm thinking I'll leave it out for now and make a comment of building for 64 bit.

YES!!! PLEASE!!! 64-bit win binary build would rock!!!! 32-bit win binary is flawless. 64-bit build just sounds damn good!!!

If con got on Bittrex, it would rule them all!!! Just hearing about the possibility of this I put highest bid in on C-cex for 48,000 coins, if anyone wants to fill it. Big or small. Thanks.

Also while Im here, I wanted to personally thank Dev Crestington for being only 1 of 2 devs I truly trust. I have no hestitation when buying con ever. My site has over 1000 coins listed with stats and information. I have a special page dedicated to my opinion on which coins to put their money into. Ive chosen 4 of over 1300 listed on my site and Paycon is in the 4. Thank you again dev for being amazing and dedicated and honest!! You are very rare, sir!!! http://bitcoinlasvegas.net/the-best-coin-to-be-invested-in-2015/  (This article gets a few hundred hits DAILY, as it is ranked #1 on google for similar search terms like "best altcoin to be invested in for 2015). 2800+ page hits total, as of today , and I just posted it recently. My way of saying thank you to the dev, and making Con even stronger than ever.

Vegas

Thank you I really appreciate the shout out. I have really enjoy working on PayCon and gives me a lot of freedom to add and make changes in order to help the entire network. Many people have mentioned that the purpose of any Coin should be to float all boats so when I think about things to be added or changed about the network I try not to think about what's in it for me because that method assumes taking from the network for personal gain, but personal gain should come as a result of the entire network doing well. If someone can create a network in which is continually growing and making gains for it's userbase then that builds trust in the network and the investors are more likely to donate and get involved in the project. So what you want for a truly strong network is that it does not rely on one person and that anyone could be the person to host the community thread, Github, and also to have it that so the userbase (investors) are also technical and trustworthy themselves so that you naturally attract the type of people you want in the project and never reliant on just one person and a single point of failure.

PayCon is pure irony in that to call the project a Con you have to work that much harder to prove that it isn't through the things you do so you have a trusted network that is telling you not to trust anyone, not to invest in it and you or anyone else have the same power to change anything they want about the Coin if able to gain consensus. When you invest in a Proof of Stake only Coin, you are buying shares owned by previous investors and holders so what kind of people are you buying from and where is it going? When someone is buying Con, they are buying from the most upstanding people in Crypto and that is real strength.

A name is only a name but represents an idea and the name being built. I have been asked before if I would change the PayCon name to sound more legit but to me it's perfect and would not want to change it for the ideas and people it represents. No rules and no promises, anything to add is up to each individual and everything should be left open for change because all ideas are good ideas, maybe something might not work exactly the way you want in it's present form but a couple tweaks will make it work, with many ideas you get constant change, with constant change you have evolution (price increase and profits as a result).
794  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Scrypt.CC | Scrypt Cloud Mining on: July 11, 2015, 07:42:26 AM
Okey, lets put some fackts in to table.

Not even one kept promise after "hack".

It is said that there is no VIP members, and it is a big lie. One VIP published this yesterday: http://easysnap.net/o/VNOG7S.png
It's not "old joke" like they say!

One BIG whale/admin published this yesterday: https://blockchain.info/tx/fdfbd02dae1123e4af9380fad8fe2d818af201da0264d7dfbb8c1dbbfc2851c2
No need to wonder how this is rolling  Grin

Keep feeding these cheaters and don't cry when you lose all your money  Cool

How about the site being online and mining, trading, withdrawing and depositing resuming?
I like that client how do I VIP?
That transaction has nothing to do with SCC.
For a troll, you get trolled very easy.

This address is interesting.

one of the addresses it mixes into is this address https://blockchain.info/address/18og8UD1Laf838cBPGkMcGbhw7FyDdDsye?offset=650&filter=0

some 2,200 BTC has passed through it, earliest transaction being  2014-07-21 08:30:20

All roads lead to this address, 6050 BTC https://blockchain.info/address/1Q8p9kQhs7zRNHptmByarX7yX2EtHnr3nx

It loops back along with other addresses at same spend times.
795  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TRUST] TRUSTplus [PoD5x2][PoR][BitTrex][Casheer][Android][Shopify] on: July 11, 2015, 07:10:23 AM

Actually, I think you pretty much answered all my questions.

Does that mean you guys launched the Coin and paid all the miners with your own funds to get started? Seems to me it would be better to just premine the whole thing and use that money on development and just skip the miners.

The entire game of crypto has many different perspectives.  The Miner is to invest mining power and hardware into a coin that will return a profitable amount of money.  The investor plays the high and low game, looking to buy low and sell high.  Developers are to create a solid product that doesn't waste everyone's time.  All coins topple when the developer confidence falls.

Miners add value to crypto.  They keep the blockchains secure and distribute the coin over the miners.  With the high cost of hashing x11, I would not do that algo today.  Most people would not hash SHA256 for an alt coin.  I didnt want to compete with scrypt.  I have dev friends that are scrypt.  Grostel and NeoScrypt is too complicated for many miners.    Today there is M7M... that would be cool.  You can Mine TRUST very inexpensively with a VPS or Raspberry Pi.  If you learn coin control and how diff changes your staking probability, you can do very well.

But yes Miners were paid by Investors, Investors wrestled each other to enter and exit profitably.  There was a couple coins that launched 100% premine called VOOT and Millionaire.  They were not scams but investor confidence fell, and the whole thing toppled.  Devs walked away with nearly 200 BTC.  100% premines are way to weak and I would never invest in that structure nor would I expect others.  I will leave those to the super investors.

What was this I heard about some bot on the market and then about having a massive GPU farm during the launch and then having purchased these Coins on the market (which could be from yourself), there were threats made that anyone who withdrew Coins would be Blacklisted and lose their Coins. Does this mean that you have enough Stake on the network in order to blacklist anyones Coins at any time if they do not heed to your demands?
796  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Selling Janhouse Torrent Autouploader on: July 10, 2015, 11:01:44 AM
I am selling my Janhouse Torrent Auto Uploader licence

More info whats that here : https://www.janhouse.lv/uploader/

Price is fixed 30$ (janhouse selling it for 100 euro)

Ok so what has been you experiences with the uploader?
797  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BitShares 2.0 on: July 10, 2015, 10:17:26 AM
This is indeed a general altcoin discussion thread, the sheer numbers of trolls and FUDing can guarantee you that!

Maybe we should make an "aesthetic" change to [NEWS], [UPD], [UPG] but then again maybe not, because I find it a bit strange that Crestington did't pay attention to similar threads in the top 5 pages, dating back to 2013 and yet he speaks about "bad precedent" and "special treatment" to BitShares.


I'm sad, I hear what you are saying and I disagree. You should always think about the why and how to look into future past, what you say makes no sense whatsoever.

Welcome to our troll family dude! Here you can learn from the Masters!



Oh I see how it is, I can play your games.


798  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BitShares 2.0 on: July 10, 2015, 07:01:11 AM
Well, we did announce an upgrade to our "altcoin" here.

Since then, we've been using this thread as a place to inform and discuss everything about what we've got going on.

So do you judge the thread by the OP title or the Sum of all Posts collectively?

Seems like a classic  "Altcoin Discussion" to me...  Smiley


Yeah but you have like 10 threads and it's title names it as an announcement thread when there is an announcement section for official announcers. Does the title itself set a bad precedent?

We have to say thank you to BitShares "supporters" DecentralizeEconomics and Newmine who created 8 from 10 threads about BitShares.

That is totally correct, why is it that these topics were created?
799  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Acedemic paper on an objective look into blockchain forks due to bad actors on: July 10, 2015, 06:47:30 AM
Wow that took a while to read, but it's very informative. Thank you OP.

I think my biggest gripe about this, is the failed consensus principle.. Well "failed" is a bit strong.. but it helps me to make my point.

I would want to see more involvement from the broad range of "users" of the coin, in the decisions being made, before a fork situation is even considered. At this stage you have to run a node or be one of the developers, to have a input, in this desicion.

It's a very complex and technical subject, but it's result impact every user of the currency, and most of them have zero say in the matter.  Huh

In order to fork a Coin you need a majority of the people, you also need all exchanges and services to run on the new fork as well and allow time for everyone to move onto the new fork. You also need to talk and discuss openly but also need to come to a conclusion and know why it's being done. It also depends on how established a Coin is, if it were a small Coin just starting out then it wouldn't be much trouble to gain consensus from a handful of holders and one exchange.

I hardforked PayCon in 5 days but had all exchanges and services updated and more than 70% of users move to the new fork in 24 hours. I was able to do this by creating a new OP, having the hardfork ready, having the wallets and any fallbacks in place, then contacting everyone through either private message or talking to all exchanges directly. I said "This is the new OP, this is the new Github, these are your new wallets, this is a hardfork that will fix the difficulty problem, give you more Coins and has some nicer aesthetics."

http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/paycon/charts.php?type=annualrate

That was a bit of circumstance though because if you have a problem of the guy running the show is leaving and you have a Blockchain problem and someone else come in to fix the problem and change the rewards to be higher for everyone, then most would just take the chance and even be thrilled about it because suddenly getting more for what you already paid for and have no alternative anyways.

What would be your choice then?

Option 1



Option 2




The thing is that people want someone to make the hard decisions for them and serve it on a silver platter and probably doesn't really matter how you fork a Coin as long as it's purpose is for the betterment of investors.

In the case of reverting and reversing transactions, that would come down to circumstance. Neither the reversal of Vericoin or the non-reversal of NXT was wrong, in both cases a decision was made. There are incidents of Blocking addresses you should add as well, CommunityCoin blocked a premine address, MaryJanecoin blocked the C-Cex burn address, and SaturnCoin2 once blocked Cryptsy when they released a wallet that blocked an address they thought was a bad actor (oops) but never told anyone about it.
800  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TRUST] TRUSTplus [PoD5x2][PoR][BitTrex][Casheer][Android][Shopify] on: July 10, 2015, 06:23:42 AM
You may find some of the information you are looking for at the following links:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/trust/#!crypto
http://trust.blockexplorer.cc/chain/TrustPlus

Ok, then it also looks like all Coins were mined in the first Blocks so where did I hear about being a fork of PayCoin? How long ago was the OP updated? It looks like they added in all the information I talked about. Where was it that I read that the premine was in fact 30 million? 120 Coins per Block for 3 days is 777,000 Coins, but 12800 Blocks is 6 days of mining? and 12800 Blocks at 120 Coins per Block would yield about 1.1-1.3 million Coins, why is the money supply at 31.5 mil then? that means the premine is 30 mil?

Thank you everyone for helping.  Firstblock was 3,439,788 of which paid for the dev for the coin software, coinking.io for a multipool after PoW and marketing.  The real challenge to TRUST was the PoW stage.  People would mine X11 waiting for the big rewards in the last reward group... Almost 2.5 T/s at the end because they realized PoS started so quickly and PoW stage was limited to coin count, not the block count.  This coin was made for for people that paid attention and started mining early.  Block 1 could PoS and reduce the total amount of coins cutting off the big miners that waited.

int64_t GetProofOfWorkReward(int64_t nFees)
{
    int64_t nSubsidy = 120 * COIN;
    
    if (pindexBest->nHeight+1 == 1)
    {
      nSubsidy = 3439788 * COIN;
      return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    
    else if (pindexBest->nHeight+1 <= 50)
    {
      nSubsidy = 1 * COIN;
      return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    
    else if (pindexBest->nHeight+1 <= 100)
    {
      nSubsidy = 50 * COIN;
      return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    
    else if (pindexBest->nHeight+1 <= 200)
    {
      nSubsidy = 100 * COIN;
      return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    
    else if (pindexBest->nHeight+1 <= 400)
    {
      nSubsidy = 200 * COIN;
      return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    
    else if (pindexBest->nHeight+1 <= 800)
    {
      nSubsidy = 400 * COIN;
      return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    
    else if (pindexBest->nHeight+1 <= 1600)
    {
      nSubsidy = 800 * COIN;
      return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    
    else if (pindexBest->nHeight+1 <= 3200)
    {
      nSubsidy = 1600 * COIN;
      return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    
    else if (pindexBest->nHeight+1 <= 6400)
    {
      nSubsidy = 3200 * COIN;
      return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    
    else if (pindexBest->nHeight+1 <= 12800)
    {
      nSubsidy = 6400 * COIN;
      return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }

Coin went to about 30,000,000 and stopped PoW rewards.

Now, paycoin was launched at Christmas and while I was investigating their code on GIT, I noticed some Veilcoin code and of course the final reference to the Veilcoin Dev.  I had IPOminer's admin confirm.  We where involved with buying a VaultBreaker and GAW wanted us to exchange Hashlets with our deposit.  We knew something was very wrong.  I refunded anyone who bought coins and hashlets through me and kept the hashlets, including the dead immortals.  I have coins from staking  Since then I have been trying to increase the value of XPY since I am a pretty big bagholder.  Their development group TeamXPY are working on open source projects that could be adpated to TRUST, hoping to help recover some losses.  PAYCON is a perfect name for this.

TRUST was a clone from hackcoin made by the best and brightest bitcoiners.  Most coins produced today are LTC/Peer Coin base without the features we have not (published/implemented) and new coins have a nifty QT form.  That is not where I believe 90% of the world consumers are interested in.

TRUST was a good launch and our price was stable, PoS kicked PoW out two days early, and then the large miners started eating away at sell walls driving the price as low as 37.  We were limping along, stafur contributed the android wallet and we met daser.  Daser was more than enthusiastic about investing in TRUST.  I have advised him on many different coins and their attributes to diversify.  Some of those are working out well, but he has stayed focused on TRUST.  His project has turned into a Corporation, in UK called UKDF.  UKDF has pretty much purchased all the mined coins available for sale and is staking, like the original major TRUST Miner wishes since we are a stable 1000+ satoshi coin.  They made and sold the coins under 400 forgoing almost $20k and a steady PoS stream.

I am always open to questions, but no one is allowed to make up anything without proof, or accuse anyone of being something they have not stated.  This is a place where we trust; no one will attack or interrogate anyone(s) responses.  We are to make a community of trust, not distrust.  The only way to do this is to moderate people who do not abide.

Actually, I think you pretty much answered all my questions.

Does that mean you guys launched the Coin and paid all the miners with your own funds to get started? Seems to me it would be better to just premine the whole thing and use that money on development and just skip the miners.
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