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8681  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: January 13, 2017, 06:05:59 AM
No I do not feel shameful for it at all because its something that I love to do and I never do it with large amounts.


I don't feel shameful for being a gambler because it hasn't discredit me as a person and gambling is not a crime  which i commited all I just wanted is fun and stress reliever unless I steal the bitcoin I used to gamble, that's probably shameful feelings. As long as you enjoyed playing for good purposes without being addicted and you can manage well with self control then nothing to shame with.

Yes me either, why would I feel shame with it if I'm just gambling for fun and sometimes hoping for a small amount of winning. I don't even commit any illegal or criminal act upon my gambling. And the most important thing is that, every time I gamble, I don't ask someone to give me money that I will gamble, it all came from my pocket.

you will be ashame of being a gambler if you are using money that didn't come from your pocket, like your parents money given to you for your allowances. if you doing that thing and didn't feel a little bit of shame, i think there is a little bit problem on that person. Being a gambler is actually a bad image because of money involvement but it is just a case to case basis because all people have different point of view in each situation.
So you think that it is bad to generazlie that gambling is bad?
I know your question is not for me, but in general I would say gambling is not bad. It depends on your approach, and we know that it existed to give us entertainment, if you treat gambling that way, you will never have a problem and the longer you play the more you get entertain.
It really depends on the approach of a certain person on how he gonna treat gambling and as you said if it gives us entertainment and we are not longing or aiming for profits then it should be fine and its not really bad because gambling is designed that way but there are really people do really aim for money thats why they got broke because their expectations arent met on the end.
8682  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: January 12, 2017, 04:39:11 PM
Worst mistake in gambling is gambling lool

No it isn't, we are the ones who are making gambling as a worst mistake but simply not being a responsible gambler. But because we think that gambling is going to be the source of income is that the worst thing that we are always thinking. And upon having a lot of lose then the blame will always goes to gambling but not to ourselves.

You need to catch up, there is no bigger mistake in gambling than you or I gambling. Aka don't make the mistake of thinking you can control the outcome of gambling or think you will win. It isn't going to happen.

Right, i agree, no one is perfect gambler here, Responsible gambler is really difficult to being a gambler. Because our first mistake is that when we start to play gambling than later on we are too much involve in it, than we forget that we have lost a big amount. In every bet, we have new thinking of winning, but in fact during that period, we have lost our money. So as a gambler, i think it is really difficult to being a responsible gambler. So don't think that it is worst mistake.   
Gambling is designed to be appealing and addictive so anyone with an addictive personality could always run into trouble when gambling.
When it comes to gambling i know that the house always wins in the end and it should only ever been seen as entertainment so i don't get caught up in trying to chase any loses.
Agree it does depend on the personality of such person and as you mentioned there are people who easily fall into addiction because of their behavior and personality.Some may get hooked some may not and therefore we should really sensible and aware while we are playing gambling to avoid of being get addicted.Chasing losses would really put you to trouble.

Well that's one mistake that would really drain you of money. Chasing your loses i think should be considered one of the major mistakes and reasons why people get the negative effects of gambling. Though i think it's really not for us to tell because some people are actually good at making money out of gambling so i don't agree that the worst mistake is to start gambling at all. Responsible thinking is they key for me as most errs committed by gamblers root from getting too much emotionally involved and with that loses logical and reasonable thinking
"Responsible thinking" For me this would be the best thing should be in ourselves when we are playing gambling because of this thing it will surely limit you into your actions on playing it and if you are sensible enough you are always aware on the current situation of your plays.If you found out that you are gaining money on that day then you will stop and play again for tommorow and this is a good step because you know how to control.
8683  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who can tell that when our luck come to us? on: January 12, 2017, 03:32:10 PM
perhaps no one can say that luck is on your side, you can feel tpai of winnings. if you win with a large amount and it happened in a row, maybe it is your lucky day. well, but again, no one can be sure when it will happen.
You are right we can not predict that when our luck will come. I think only a few people will get full day luck in gambling. For others, it will come 1 or 2 times. Suppose if it comes in a row yes it is your lucky day. But don't get excited and don't try more luck on the same day you may chance to lose your all winnings on the same day. Where ever luck is there Greedy also there. 

we only can feel that our luck is come but no one will know as they can not feel what we are feeling in gambling so we need to know in every step we make when we are gamble. after we can feel our luck is come, then is up to you to continue playing gambling or just stop the games and leave the place before you are going to loss.
You cant feel it when luck comes to you and the only time you could able to tell that you are lucky is after you play gambling because you will eventually see the results of that game then if you saw you win simultaneously then you will say that you are luck and other players would say the same thing too thats why no one really knows or see indications of being lucky before playing gambling.
8684  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Controlling your temper in gambling on: January 12, 2017, 01:15:03 PM
Patience is a must with gambling. Importantly when you have big plans of earning good through bitcoin, even without making strategies about the event you might win but winning without patience is hard. The reason is that when you loose patience after a failure in event you will just think of it and continue to place more bets on upcoming events. This in a short results in total loss. So anger is something which need to be avoided and patience which needs to be added to continue gambling with success.

It is an important factor to gamble always in a calm mind and if you are also patient enough every time you gamble. You can reduce the chance of losing, because if you are acting and does have an attitude like that. You won't bet on a rage mode that can lead you to a lot of loses which is basically the most common problem and error of a gambler.
Emotion really plays an important role on playing gambling because if you let those emotion control you then you will definitely done wrong things since your emotion cant be control already by your mind which means you will made wrong decisions and following your emotion on which you are right this is the most common error on most gambler thats why we should stay calm so that we would know the things we should do.

Yeah that's why most of the time when I gamble. I just keep on making myself on the cool mode so that I'm not going to do some rage bets. I already learned from my past mistakes that I wasn't able to make myself calm and control my emotion, so I went on losing a lot on a single day and it was followed then because I don't know how to control my temper.
Well im glad to hear that you already learn from your past mistakes which is good actually because you wont do such thing on the second round and its really important to be cool on playing gambling so that it wont affect much our betting style and we would eventually enjoy the game.
8685  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Controlling your temper in gambling on: January 12, 2017, 12:03:53 PM
Patience is a must with gambling. Importantly when you have big plans of earning good through bitcoin, even without making strategies about the event you might win but winning without patience is hard. The reason is that when you loose patience after a failure in event you will just think of it and continue to place more bets on upcoming events. This in a short results in total loss. So anger is something which need to be avoided and patience which needs to be added to continue gambling with success.

It is an important factor to gamble always in a calm mind and if you are also patient enough every time you gamble. You can reduce the chance of losing, because if you are acting and does have an attitude like that. You won't bet on a rage mode that can lead you to a lot of loses which is basically the most common problem and error of a gambler.
Emotion really plays an important role on playing gambling because if you let those emotion control you then you will definitely done wrong things since your emotion cant be control already by your mind which means you will made wrong decisions and following your emotion on which you are right this is the most common error on most gambler thats why we should stay calm so that we would know the things we should do.
8686  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is it Sports Betting is better than other type of gambling? on: January 12, 2017, 11:08:27 AM
Sports betting is better than other type of gambling like provably fair games (dice, slot, etc) because sports betting is not have provably fair. For me sports betting is completely fair and have many options to bet for each match. The odds also good though, many variant options on bet and many kind of sports that you can bet.

It is better if the game is not rigged, the problem in here lies on the game internal system itself.  Even we are skillful in data analysis and  knows the competing team, it will be nullify if the management of the game rigged the result.  But still I think it is still better than any type of gambling where the outcome relies solely on luck.
Correct,so this really signifies that results arent that accurate or expected on relying completely on analysis and as you said no matter how good you analyze it if the problem is internal and tend to be fixed game already then you are destined to lose that particular game which is really happening on sportsbetting world thats why this is called gambling because results are random even the results are obvious already but isnt still guaranteed.
8687  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: January 12, 2017, 10:09:54 AM
Worst mistake in gambling is gambling lool

No it isn't, we are the ones who are making gambling as a worst mistake but simply not being a responsible gambler. But because we think that gambling is going to be the source of income is that the worst thing that we are always thinking. And upon having a lot of lose then the blame will always goes to gambling but not to ourselves.

You need to catch up, there is no bigger mistake in gambling than you or I gambling. Aka don't make the mistake of thinking you can control the outcome of gambling or think you will win. It isn't going to happen.

Right, i agree, no one is perfect gambler here, Responsible gambler is really difficult to being a gambler. Because our first mistake is that when we start to play gambling than later on we are too much involve in it, than we forget that we have lost a big amount. In every bet, we have new thinking of winning, but in fact during that period, we have lost our money. So as a gambler, i think it is really difficult to being a responsible gambler. So don't think that it is worst mistake.   
Gambling is designed to be appealing and addictive so anyone with an addictive personality could always run into trouble when gambling.
When it comes to gambling i know that the house always wins in the end and it should only ever been seen as entertainment so i don't get caught up in trying to chase any loses.
Agree it does depend on the personality of such person and as you mentioned there are people who easily fall into addiction because of their behavior and personality.Some may get hooked some may not and therefore we should really sensible and aware while we are playing gambling to avoid of being get addicted.Chasing losses would really put you to trouble.
8688  Economy / Securities / Re: Not only for Brave! Low - Medium - High Risk Investment from 0.25 Btc on: January 11, 2017, 05:29:09 AM
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I could offer 3 kind of investment:

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Just want to know on what you are trading?I assume youre trading on forex since you mentioned about hedging which is risky if you arent professional enough.10-15% daily is good and showing the levels of risk people might see it a very good investment but the issue would be trust on how investors could really be sure that this is not just a scam.
8689  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can you list Dice strategies other than martingale? on: January 11, 2017, 04:52:19 AM
i always like testing new strategies and having fun with dice, it is so flexible in a sense that you can do whatever you like.
but i always see people use martingale strategy, me included for the most part.

so i was wondering if anybody could list other strategies they can think of or use themselves here?
There are lots of strategies on playing dice game but most people do use the common method which is martingale because it easy to set it up and youre good to go.Ive heard about inverted martingale etc. (i forgot them actually because i dont have any interest on using it). Martingale does really require enough bankroll in able to sustain lossing streaks it may work for some but most players who uses it
8690  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Where would you invest if you had 40$/day ? on: January 10, 2017, 06:14:03 PM
I would start with trading because of the fact that its easy and also very profitable with such amounts.

The fact that trading is not easy to do so unless you do have experience in trading already. This is what is on my mind if I am barely earning this amount of money on a daily basis. And still I would invest into real investments like investing to investment bonds of different banks even though returns are not that big in short term but if that will be in long term that can be big profit.

You are right about this but if you have some experience you can do this and make some good money of course you need a bit of luck but that is logical.

Luck is always there but in able that we need to have that luck we need to do something to use that luck. But it is not just going to work out if we are not going to do with it. As long as you know what you are investing with that money and you are decided to make that money grow in a legal way. Then you need to stick with it.
For me I wont rely too much on luck specially on making some investments and as a sensible person/investor you would really want to make it sure on how and where you would put your money because if you know how on what you are doing then chances of making profits is high that's why luck isn't really necessary anytime to make money.
If I have those amounts per day I would save it and setting a target price to invest later on.
8691  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your new year start in gambling! on: January 10, 2017, 05:58:04 PM
I think that this is a bad mindset to enter the new year with. Im my opinion, gambling shouldn't be a big part of someone's life so I wouldn't be in a rush to gamble for a new start in the beginning of a new year. I think that it's only safe to gamble healthy amounts so that it wouldn't make a difference either way.
i do not think that it is a bad mindset to enter the new year with gambling. to me as i play gambling in limit and i always play gambling in a limit and ever try to cross that limit and that is the reason that  i never face such a big amount of bitcoin.

Yeah I don't think so as well. People have their own way of looking at gambling and some people, even though they look forward to gambling, know how to gamble responsibly. It doesn't mean all the time that when someone looks forward to gambling at the start of the year, they would be gambling mindlessly to the point of exhausting all their livelihood resources. Some just have fun and enjoy the feeling that gambling brings but do it in a way that won't affect their lives negatively.
I totally agree on your statement because most people here seems like they treat gambling as a dirty game on which when people tends to play gambling they could always say or conclude that a particular person will eventually got broke on playing it which is really not right to get some basis and as you said there are responsible gamblers who just play for entertainment without risking too much money.
8692  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone ever stop gambling? but then gamble again? on: January 10, 2017, 05:39:19 PM
Always Smiley Some people stop because they want to stop gambling, but they stop due to not enough money to cover their gambling. so mostly they wait for their payday then comes back again Smiley
That could be one of the reasons too. Myself, i was stopped from gambling due to my real job. I don't have enough time to gamble and then it stopped my gambling activity and i'd like to spend my money to other else besides gamble too. Now, I gamble again but when i really have some spare time.
So this basically means that a certain thing would really be needed for you to stop gambling its either on many possible reasons but we are talking about on stopping completely because you got broke and suffer horrible consequences on playing gambling or limiting yourself to play because you already compromise too much money.The main thing here is the aims or perspective on playing it because if you do have the aims on making money then you would really tend to play it no matter what unlike on entertainment purposes then you do play without risking too much on it.
8693  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitgame.online - most profitable odds for UEFA Champions League 1/8 matches on: January 10, 2017, 04:47:42 PM
Which platform provider you guys use and which slots games you host ?

As far as I can see, there is no slots games on this site. Just tried to register but I got an error message after click sign up "Got Http response code 429 when accessing https://api.blockcypher.com/v1/btc/main/payments?token=snip" What is this?

You will get this obviously because the above bitcoin sportsbook site is similar to another real website: https://bitgame.co

All the logos and UI are the same which speaks of only one thing that above user got some of the source files of the real website and hosted it. It should be noted that above sportsbook is just a trap to scam gamblers here.

If you do care about your money then please don't try this site.

I am one of the co-founders of https://bitgame.co/  Smiley
Now, we restart our gaming platform on another domain because teams were divided and domain bitgame.co belongs to Alex BG who has not fulfilled his promissory as an investor.

 
Restarting your gaming platform on a newer one with a very horrible website design?Which is somehow no effective because it doesn't really attract too much and also the games listed are just limited and better to add up and try to improve or enhance website design which would look trustable and reputable.Just like Avirunes said it is somehow suspicious for me too.
8694  Economy / Securities / Re: How much interest is reasonable for you? on: January 09, 2017, 06:59:38 PM
I think 5-10% a month is alot all i expect from the best currency bitcoin to provide me a bump of 20-30% a year even if its 20% i guess it's not bad as long as the return is better than that useless gold i totally fine with it
If we are talking about only on bitcoin then 20% is already guaranteed on bitcoins price movement annually but if we are saying or talking about possible percentage on investments then it is sky is the limit since it would depend on how many investments do you have.10-15% is good in monthly basis but there are some could make 100% in a short period of time.
8695  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins on: January 09, 2017, 06:27:50 PM

I do not know the exact number of wins and defeats me in gambling, but the exact amount of my loss greater than victory. I often bet on sports betting and sometimes also on the dice. But I gambled in small quantities and with restrictions, so I always deposited some bitcoin for gambling usually around 0:06 BTC and that I use for some games. And if the result I would not bet again.
yes i also do not know that the actual number winning or loosing games but still i can say that i have lost more than the games in which i make money, so my loosing percentage is more that my gaining percentage.

It is not only you but most of the gamblers will have same results because these results are based on luck and luck will come only sometimes to players. Who knows this fact they will not chase winnings in gambling instead just play for fun sometimes and enjoy these games.
you're probably right we dont know when luck will come on us . may be to reduce losing our money we can start with a low amount of bet then make it higher when you're winning and why gambling if you can make a profit to investing in gambling sites bankroll ? anyone knows how to make profit from gambling lol haha maybe those who become rich in gambling because of their lucks
We wont really know on when luck will be on our side and you are right why keep bothering on playing gambling since its better to invest money on the house itself rather than playing on it. Gambling without losses is impossible because its already a part of gambling there are winners and there are lossers. Luck is a big factor  to make money on gambling because if you haven't then expect losses .
We don't when the luck with be with us but we can feel if we are lucky, however luck is just a temporary thing so we have to learn how to stop as well, do not keep pushing our luck as we might end up losing all our money in the end. There will be regrets, if we stop without winning when we are lucky at first.
gambling is a game of luck and no one know in advance that either he is going to win or lose in gambling, it is totally depending on your luck so if you are luck then you will make money in gambling and if you are not lucky then you will unable to do so and there is more chanced to lose your own money.

Absolutely, that's what should be known by every gambler, that gambling can give us money, but it all depends on our luck. If we're lucky, then we can win and we can get the money. But almost every gambler suffered more defeats than victories, because that was the way the game. even in the sports betting any luck plays the biggest, because sometimes what looks supposed to happen, but it happened otherwise.
]Yes that's why we need to not make a big bet in everytime, why? because luck not always stay beside you and we never know how many luck we have in one days so for outsmart it we need to make shuffle amout of bet.
If we do play gambling we would really make big amounts to bet and does really depend on how much risk you could able to handle but most of the time gamblers doesnt realize this thing on which they are just easily make huge bets without thinking the possible consequences.Yes,luck isnt in our side always it maybe there or not and regarding on my losses and win i think they are just breakeven.
8696  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If today was your last day, would you gamble everything? on: January 09, 2017, 05:56:11 PM
Since i have a family i wouldnt gamble everything and infact i would rather choose to give all my assets and money for them and you will be happy to see them secured in the future even you are gone which is the most valuable thing for me and no money could able to pay that thing.If this would be the last day i would rather choose spent all my time with my family and give them all rather than wasting your last 24 hours on playing gambling.
8697  Economy / Gambling / Re: [Curious] Does someone from BTCTalk Won the Fortunejack luckyjack on: January 09, 2017, 04:42:36 PM
Hey,
Just to inform that I won LuckyJack today   Grin Cheesy

I try everyday for months and months and this is the 1st. time I won.

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Atlast i already saw a member who won in Luckyjack which i havent experience as of now and same as other members said here most gamblers of FJ came from on this forum and regarding on this promotion seems like you are just the only one who show or confirms this giveaway and i would like to say Congratulations to you and im hoping also that i could able to win someday. Grin
8698  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How was your luck in 2016.? on: January 08, 2017, 01:14:58 PM
My luck wasn't too good, I've lost around 2 BTC in total in 2016, with around 10 BTC wagered.
I'm definitely going to cut down in 2017 :p

We all think the same, but actually its not luck but its the nature of gambling that we loose all our money. I might sound horrendous but guys god exists, do some good deeds and you get rewarded while I did something bad with someone on many occasions and got punished ;(
What are you trying to imply on your statement? For me, gambling is never a sin because I know how to control myself, I live into the definition of gambling which is entertainment and I am very happy that I found a wonderful site which I am currently playing now, it's non other than FortuneJack.

I believe your luck will just come especially when you have a good experience in playing a certain gambling sites.
Your beliefs is not really a guarantee that if you have good experience in a certain gambling site will always give you luck on playing games on it.Playing gambling is not really a sin even some considered it is but it depends on how a person handles it because wrong things would really happen if you let gambling destroys you but if you have a strong self control and awareness then gambling would not a problem at all.
8699  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Market Panic can drive BTC prices Lower on: January 08, 2017, 11:09:17 AM
There is no reason for panic or panic selling. It's true that many Bitcoin holders have fear that the price would go down more deeply so they will sell which can lower a price for a bit more. But now isn't moment for selling, the head shor be kept cool and wait for this correction of price to be over because soon Bitcoin will be back on the way up.
You could easily say that because you do have a good self control and limiting your temper but we all know we are not the same and people do have different perspective and targets thats why panic selling would normally happen in bitcoins price movement.People would surely panic because they are afraid to lose money and those people are those who are newbie on trading industry.
8700  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where and which part of day do you gamble? on: January 08, 2017, 10:31:32 AM
I liked to gamble in the middle of the night,because at that time the distraction is little and the internet also fast, so i can more focus on my gambling, and I never gamble in the working hour, gamble is for fun I don't want because of the little fun I got and then I got fired, and all of the office in my country forbid gambling activity
Im doing the same thing as yours on which i do play gambling mostly at night after work if i have still time and not sleepy then i use my time on playing gambling and im just setting an amount on a particular day on just playing gambling without tending to add up more amounts.If i won profits then its good for me and if not then its still okay for me.
i mostly bet with live betting so what ever time the nba game played in my location thats also the time i'm placing my bets i wanted to make sure that those important players for my team are their and playing well even the odds will change its better to play this way so you can assess and see if you have some advantage.
I do bet on sports and same as yours i do live basketball and im always betting on my favorite team which is GSW and CAVS etc. lot to mention which i could know which is a good team or not and i agree im also assuring first that the good players on a particular team really participates before making such bet because if those are absent then winning chance would decrease.
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