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9121  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: October 22, 2016, 04:09:46 AM
I love them both and I think they both have their up and down sided, as a example you cannot pay with gold and with the bitcoin you can all over the world.
Bitcoin is unstable, the gold is pretty stable.

Not quite, maybe in a short time spawn, but when you look at its last 30 years you get something like this:



As gold is much older than bitcoin, we would need to wait to can compare stability.
bitcoin is still young  though compared to  gold  but still  on terms  on prices i could  somehow say that  bitcoin would have the edge regarding to it but   if i have the capability to invest into  both  then  i would surely invest on both bitcoin and gold because they have all the potential to make profits on  long terms
9122  Economy / Reputation / Re: girlbtc:he want to be my escrow , but his feedback is 0, will he success on: October 20, 2016, 08:59:02 AM
Im wondering why OP would choose non reputable   members hence there are  lots  of  escrows  out there or maybe  he dont want  to make  some  transaction with them? Smells fishy though, seeing the  situation between OP and  yahoo i could say that theres  really a problem with  OP
9123  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: October 20, 2016, 06:56:17 AM
If you are playing a game like poker and you are skilled enough you can win all the time but only if you are good enough, with the other games it does not work that way.
The other games require to much luck and zero skill those cannot be profitable.

Even you are going to be skilled in gambling luck is still needed and I would say that it is not going to be profitable to play poker and other games in the long run. Because most of the time a gambler loses if he does not able control his gambling addiction. That is making everyone lose in the long run and not to be profitable.

No, Skill is the main winning part in poker than
luck.

Since poker do requires a lot of analytical thinking,
And even we say that you don't have the luck to get the
best cards.
But still you know how to handle the cards. then there
will still be a great chance of winning.
Experience on  poker would really give you the edge even though you dont have the best cards  because  same as you said you could able to  handle them and  would  able to increase the winning percentage depending on  the  techniques and  decision that you would made.
9124  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction. on: October 20, 2016, 06:40:30 AM
Why is someone get addicted to gambling once he gamble ?

Most common and true answer because they wanted to easily get money from gambling . If you will think of reality , there are no people who's getting addicted to gambling just because they are only looking for fun but because they are trying to easily make profit .

Its more because its money earned by doing almost no work. And you have a chance to win a big amount of money by just betting some amount of money.

That is making gambling very addictive especially when a gambler has experienced to win a very big amount as he gambles. So no matter what happens even he losses, he will going to keep on believing that he is going to have a chance to win again with that amount because he has already experience the feeling of winning.

Thats what you called  "greediness" because  that emotion  would come out  if you are experiencing  winning and after that you would still play and  hoping for more until you realized that you are already  lossing your winnings  and  you still keep on betting  because  you are chasing  back  your losses.
9125  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin help poor countries? on: October 20, 2016, 06:32:09 AM
Poor countries first of all need primary needed. Food/clothes etc etc.
Aftaer that, bitcoin could help as fiat as well.

That is what those people need who lives in the poor countries. And that is not going to be an easy thing to make those poor countries being helped  by bitcoin. For they first need the facilities, computer, laptops, smartphones or any gadgets that allows them to be connected in the internet. And that is the way when bitcoin do its job for helping them.

People from poor countries will not prioritized in getting that things since they care for their money. Since the source of money is difficult no way they will put their money in that kind of thing. The price for that is not a joke plus the internet fees which I doubt will be present in those rural areas.

Without internet bitcoin can't help those poor people.

Very true, they would not intend to engage up onto these things  because they would surely prioritize  first  their needs rather than investing  into bitcoin or engaging on it. As you mentioned not all people do have  internet  connection and  thats already an expenses and they would not like to add  up on it.
9126  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is any new way here to earn bitcoin very fast? on: October 20, 2016, 06:30:20 AM
Fast is subjective, but what is more important is earning bitcoin consistently.
I just offering a question for you about this, in a case you will be reserving the two statement.
1 you will get $500.000 at the first time and the second you will get $50.000 for a month your work on the startup....
and what you will choose? a lot in early or the consistently?

In your question i would  choose  up consistently rather  than  lot on  early because  its better to wait or expect on  longer times  rather than in one time big  money. Earning bitcoin isnt easy at all and  wouldnt be fast as you are  expecting  because its  like  having a day  job you need to work  in able to earn.
9127  Economy / Economics / Re: How to make 17 BTC out of 7 BTC ? on: October 20, 2016, 06:26:37 AM
You need to buy 10 more Bitcoin because it is going to be hard to try and earn 10 whole Bitcoin in a free way you are going to have to wait a long time.
You can also try and gamble with them but I do no suggest that because you can lose all your Bitcoin.

If you just buy 10 bitcoin and hold the coin, the number of the bitcoin will not increase. But the fiat value will increase.
Gambling will help him to make 7 bitcoin is just 1 day if he knows where to play it with his money because his don't then he can probably lose his money and get nothing on it sometimes the more we greedy the more the chances of winning if you are waiting the valvue of bitcoin to increase lol thats takes years

If you are going for gambling to multiply your coins then there is a high chance of loosing everything at the end of the day but if you can afford to take risk then you can go for it.
Just set a goal when you are in gambling if you are intention just to multiply your coins then you must ahve high bet to win or to loose don't afraid to lose money without taking a risk you can't really earn profits yes there are chance that you lose money but not all the time you can really make it also in investment and tradings.

We should really  risk if you want to earn  something because if you wont risk and  afraid  of  lossing your money then dont try to invest and expect that you would get nothing at all. 17btc out of 7btc is  possibly by means of gambling but its not recommendable  because lossing those  7 btc would be  high and instant.
9128  Economy / Exchanges / Re: ==== CCEX USERS BEWARE ==== on: October 20, 2016, 06:24:48 AM
I do experience the same thing  too on the  situation of OP where theres a  bruteforce  trying to log-in on  my ccex account which  leads  to my curiosity  on how those  people  could able to get  my email , luckily they dont have acces to my email though. 2fa is a must  if you like to protect your bitcoin.
9129  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what fun in GAMBLING? on: October 20, 2016, 06:21:16 AM
the fun in gambling is losing money...Sad but if you win thats better:)
Loosing money is not fun Tongue but if you keep on playing just to chase what you've lost already then you are having fun loosing them. Yes it's more better if you are winning in game you place bet but sometimes we greedy that much to lose everything in gambling site. But there an exception the fact is your not there just to win profits. Smiley

Lossing money  is not  fun in any way and  all people  would  really feel that. Money is important to us  but  if you are  just  using it  for  entertainment then you would not be worry at all because you are  already awared that your money  would  be  gone in doing such thing.
9130  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Tesla was sold again for Bitcoin :) on: October 20, 2016, 06:19:37 AM
Never knew that you could buy a Tesla with Bitcoin, was the Tesla sold by a person that first owned it or did you buy it straight from the dealer with Bitcoin because I did not know that that was possible.
Maybe that I am going to buy a car with my Bitcoin in the future.

Story doesn't tell whether the car was new or pre owned, but judging from the price it was a new car...

Its really a new car   and  no one could able to buy a 2nd  hand  tesla car and they  wont announce it  on public if it bought on 2nd hand , for sure its a brand new  one. REally glad to hear this  type of news where bitcoins  adoption is already scattering  on some merchants not  only on small ones  but on  big businesses,
9131  Economy / Economics / Re: How would you double $100,000 safely? on: October 20, 2016, 06:15:54 AM
there is no 100% safe way for that, and way i know might take more than one year, so all you have to do is buy bitcoins and wait for their price to rise, then sell them
yeah true what you say that there is no method to grow and double its investment especially safe, everything is at risk. but I think that would not be possible for you to benefit two-fold if you hold bitcoin in just 1 year

Holding your bitcoin on 1 year period  would not still  guarantee you  to double your bitcoins/money. As we  observe on bitcoins price as of  now  its quite stable and   it really moves slowly  and we  cant guarantee that it would reach double amount  on next  1 year period but well we dont  know  what happens on the future.

True, if you mean  you would like to see 2x on your  investment  on  bitcoin shall we say $1200 in the price, it would be still an impossible thing  to  happen  in next year 2017, i dont think that  we could able to achieve this price on next year as  we saw on the  price movement  of bitcoin.
9132  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Signature campaign on: October 20, 2016, 06:14:08 AM
Hi guys

Do you know any signature campaign that accept red trust users?

Thanks Cheesy
I think there are many campaigns like the alt coins signature campaign because they hardly even care about the reputation and all, all they want is brutal advertising at the cost of their coins.
Personally I think red trust users should NOT ALLOWED since they have committed something wrong or scammed someone and dont deserve money from this forum.

Even  on altcoin campaigns , users with negative trust  would  have a hard time to join these  signature because  there  rules are all the same  and  major rule is  no negative user would be accepted  or  being  kicked  while  in middle on the  campaign that means  its very strict regarding on this matter.
9133  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin can disappear? on: October 20, 2016, 06:12:15 AM
Bitcoin can disappear?
And if bitcoin is a scam, what will happen in world?
People will panic?

If bitcoin disappear (i hope it does not), only a few percentage of the population will be affected because only a few percentage actually knows, holds or own bitcoin. It will not cause any massive panic but to only those who are heavily invested in bitcoin like the giant miners and those who hold thousands of bitcoin.

This is true, it would not  impact too much on  our  economy though but only  on the  bitcoin ecosystem and for sure those  big investors would really  lost a lot  of money  if bitcoin would disappear but for me its  impossible  for it  to  happen nowadays  because  bitcoin is going stronger and stronger.
9134  Economy / Economics / Re: Why You Should Never Sell Your Bitcoins Ever on: October 20, 2016, 06:05:33 AM
Some people say that you should never sell you Bitcoin never because those people think that in the future the price is going to be higher then it has ever been.
They then are going to sell of there Bitcoin that they have saved to make maximum profit.

These people are good in talking nonsense. The majority of the people that say they will not sell their coins before reaching a certain price level, will sell as soon as they see they have made like 25% profit. It's too tempting for them to resist. Only the best holders can manage to hold their coins till it reaches a certain price level. And these holders are a far minority I can tell you.

This is true, because  if people would see the  price of bitcoin rose  to a certain point and they could able to see that  they are making  25% or more on their investment for sure they  would really be tempted to sold  all of those bitcoin because  they would  like  to secure profits. Holding  on  how many years  are quite few for sure.
9135  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: i want start cloudmining !!! on: October 20, 2016, 06:03:40 AM
If you have more than 500 BTC then cloud mining is a good idea like hashnest and genesis mining and don't bother with eobot they will tell your country is sanctioned and delete your account with all funds completely.

That's what they did even though  when I was buying with paypal it was all OK but when tried to withdraw they deleted me Sad
You are right because cloud mining is hardly giving any profits right now unless you have high capital.
I will advice you to make a gambling site or invest in such a site because with cloud mining it is really getting us so hard times ( some sites scamming users using the name of cloud mining )

The same can happen with investing into dice sites. Also, I have not yet found a concrete proof about investment into these sites being profitable. Dice sites are for gambling and if you do want for gamble, click the link in my sig, visit one of the best and gamble.

Investment into dice, not sure that s so good.

Theres no good  on investing  into something  like playing gambling games. Its better to invest  on  the  house  itself because you could somehow assure yourself  on the profits that would be  made in the  long run. CLoudmining are  such a waste of  time and  money  because they are all  just scams.
9136  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is stealing Bitcoin illegal? on: October 20, 2016, 06:02:04 AM
actully yes it is kind of illigal but here nobody will actully gonna punish you as it is not in power of any government but if someone really finds a scammer then yes they can take appropriate action like arresting them

As long as it is illegal then that is not going to be a bad act and stealing of something that you don't own is against the law. But with the situation of op that is not considered as stealing because op just received bitcoin accidentally to his bitcoin wallet and he has no intention to steal the bitcoin of other people, maybe he could just return that.

HE could able to return if  hed like to.. but  the question here is   how  he would gonna return those coins?  If he  dont know  who really owns it  and then for sure he would tend to get those bitcoins rather than leaving it  and  thinking that its better to  benefit and dont let it  come to waste.
9137  Economy / Speculation / Re: Last correction before 700+ breakout on: October 20, 2016, 05:58:24 AM
^^^this chart predicts nothing and, actually, charts in most cases have no predictive value whatsoever.
They are useful tools to provide some rationality afterwards, but that's it.

I totally agree with you. I don't think someone can predict to future price of bitcoin just based on charts. Otherwise It would be f..king easy to being rich.

Charts  are  just tools  regarding on the movement of bitcoins price and  we cant really predict  the next movement but  there are  some  patterns  that we could able  to observe and  somehow assume  the next  movement but still we  cant guarantee it. No one  really knows the future.
9138  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: October 20, 2016, 05:55:29 AM
When you are going out to gamble a bit then you are going to think about winning because that is the reason why you are going but when with friends it can also be fun even if you lose.
But it is way more fun if you manage to win with gambling.
Most of the time when you gamble with your friends you will lose because you cannot concentrate as you will just bet base on your emotion, it is good in a game where strategy is not important and if you are lucky you might win but still you will not keep that money because you are still gonna enjoy that spending in other things.

Yeah,

And that is where control should take
part.

The secret to prevent big losses or further losses
in gambling is to control your self.
The amount you bet and the time you
spent on the game.

Having self  control on the middle of the game  would be  very a good  thing   because you could able to stop yourself  especially when you are lossing too much money with these  you could able to  decrease  too much lose. We should really treat gambling as  an  entertainment rather than on gaining profit.
9139  Economy / Economics / Re: Loans too risky? on: October 20, 2016, 05:53:39 AM
Loaning money for example is going to cost you more money so in fact you have to pay for money. But you should only take a loan for something important that you need in live. Do not take a loan if you do not have a good reason to do so.
Yeah if you make a loan in  loan service provider you must includ or give an a valid collateral to make your loan approve like in this forum but if you make loan just consider that you are borrowed is you can pay for it to dont get any problem.

If there will not be an escrow then I think the better way is to have valid id's shown also if the loaner or borrower just wont mind. There have been a lot of scams with this things. Maybe that could minimize this from happening over and over again.


Well we are in cyber world even though you are going to show someone a valid id you can just google it for there are a lot of identity theft's that are already happening. So I would say that it is still not guaranteed, in cyber world it is really hard to build trust for the people especially when there is a monetary value involved.
True, its really  hard to trust people here  on  online world which   you could  possibly get  lots of  informations  from other  people  and  could   able to fake  ID easily which  lendors would fall and about  to believe that they were legit borrowers. Thats  why  i dont  like this  loan business.
9140  Economy / Economics / Re: Selling Lemonade for Bitcoins? on: October 20, 2016, 05:49:35 AM
Where I live, you wouldn't get much business selling something for bitcoins at a lemonade stand or yard sale. Not that it's not a good idea overall, but there don't seem to be many people where I live that know about bitcoin.

I know, as people are not used to pay bitcoin in real life like in stalls or hawkers.It needs more technicalities,takes time to process or several minutes for confirmations. But,one day,I hope this will be solved,no waiting time for clearing.

It would not still  a problem  though as long  you can see the  tranfering  status  you could already assure that those bitcoins would  go to your wallet because as we all know that bitcoin transaction are  irreversible means  we couldnt able  to cancel  or  get back  our coins that weve sent.
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