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8981  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the minimum amount to start as a trader? on: November 02, 2016, 01:00:02 PM
What is the minimum amount to start as a trader?
It will depend on what amount you have, even .01 is enough to trade but the more you trade the more it profits so much better if you have a higher amount to trade and you have to learn a lot to make more profit from experienced people in trading ask them some advises on how you will do it.
Its not  advisable   to  jump  in  large  capital  when you are  just starting  up into trading because   you would  surely  lose  it  fast    because  of lack  knowledge and dont tend  to  depend   on   skilled  and   experienced  trader but its still  good  to seek advice  but  not fully  dependent on them  because   making  money  on trading   isnt easy  but  if  you got the  proper  techniques and  experience  you would  surely attain  it but it would  takes time. Better to  start  up on small amounts when  you are just  starting. 0.01 would be enough though.
8982  Economy / Economics / Re: You are not successful Bitcoin, but you can get passive income with other way on: November 02, 2016, 12:12:08 PM
You can get passive income if you have been blogging for at least a year.

You can get passive income from many source...But, in the case of a blog you need to put a lot of energy, content, and a lot of energy. The main goal is to get enough traffic and convert it with advertisement you set on your blog.

Do you have a blog?

Do you think blogging - this is passive income? I think that on the contrary it is hard work. Creative work and analyst. Not everyone is able to do.
Blogging is  not actually a   passive  income  because as you mentioned too  that  it  does  really require  hard work  on  it and  Everyone  doesnt  have that ability  as  a  blogger you would  really require  some skills and  passion  to be succesful  on this  type of  career, if you  got  this  then for sure you would generate good  decent of  profits  compared to other  ways  but  back to  OP, selling  tshirts  is  not a passive  income hence it would still need effort to make  money with  it. Passive  means   you wont do nothing  but still you are gaining  money its also called as leverage incomes  if you have   lots of  investments.
8983  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting on sport = gambling? on: November 02, 2016, 11:32:30 AM
sports betting is my favourite and it makes it fun becasue i can watch some matches and there are different markets to choose from
I guess I thought the same as you. Well, sports betting is a kind of gambling that is most in demand by the people, it was because of the way that is very simple and has a better chance to win. if you play this gambling, you just have to bet on the team that you think has a greater strength compared to his opponent, so the opportunities will be even greater winnings
Sports betting is some kind of gambling that gives you confidence since you can watch the game live, that fact alone will give you more excitement as in the course of the game, there are ups and downs you can witness for the particular team you are betting although the outcome will only be known after the game is finish.
Definitely that's the story behind why we love sports betting, in my journey in the gambling world, my first bet was in sports because I am attracted in sports betting as an sports enthusiast, I cannot describe the feeling when I am gambling as I almost wanna bet on all the games available because I have fun doing it.

Honestly, although in my career I have a big lose but still I can forgo of that since the entertainment value is more worthy to me.

Playing in sports betting  is  really different  from  those   pure luck based  games  like  dice and  slots because in sports  gambling you could actually  see the  game event on  live which  you would  witness  and feel the thrill   of the game  and the winning  bet would  just  be a  bonus if   you  do  tend   to gamble for fun  only. Its also  somehow does  have high chance  of winning   compare to those  other gambling games. Back to topic playing   on sports  is definitely considered as   a   gambling  because  you already bet  on  it with your money.
8984  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin related job on: November 02, 2016, 10:25:41 AM
hello. I'm looking for a job which the payment is bitcoin. I joined signature campaign, but I was banned. then I looked for the other signature campaign, but I found no spot available for new participants.

actually I can translate English to Indonesian, but I'm not so good. I can edit videos, but I can't upload it because my connection is not so fast.

thank you.
Too bad  that  you are banned   on signature  campaign. I suppose  you are being  included  on SMAS  list which  is  very  unlucky  to be  listed on their  because   most signature campaign is being  handled  by those  managers. In this case  joining  campaigns  would really  have a  small chance  of being accepted but still you could able  to join on some  campaigns  which arent handled  by those  managers but well as  other  members  recommend  here there are still lots of ways  to earn  bitcoin  even  you didnt rely too much  on join sig camps.
8985  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is Bitcoin designed to last forever? on: November 02, 2016, 09:27:42 AM
Yes nothing lasts forever, especially in the tech sector.

I agree with you , nothing  really last  forever and  shall passed away  its  either  been broken or  just  normally passed away  but   in the field  of  technology  , i could  say that  bitcoin is not designed  to last forever   but  im somehow assured  that  it would   took  up for  many years  before it would  gone because as  we all  witness now  that  bitcoin  is   already being  adopted  by people   and  increasing  as the days  goes  by and this  indicates  it would  last  up, bitcoin would end if  no people would  tend to use it anymore.
8986  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Multiply my btc on: November 01, 2016, 01:50:45 PM
Trading is the best if you can, Don't casinos/gambling...
as OP say he's not going for trading due to its risk and he is really want a risk free investment to multiply his bitcoin,its really hard to find an investment that meet the requirement and more likely will never happen.
OP seems  dont  like  the risk  of   lossing   its bitcoin therefore  he would  not  seek  for investments because   on such  investment  it always do   involves risk  on lossing  your money  and  as we all know  that   we should  risk  something  to gain something . If you wont risk  then   you wont  gain nothing too,  better to keep  your  bitcoins at all  but   expect  that you would  not able  to grow your money.
8987  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Why people don't like coinbase? on: November 01, 2016, 01:27:49 PM
I dont   know  why  people  do  hate  coinbase  on  some  reasons  but   for me  they  have a good service and  its  very user friendly and    you could actually  make   transactions  with  ease  and   they  do  have  free of charge  on transferring  some  bitcoins to  another wallet  but  you must expect that the  transfer  or confirmation times  would  really longer though. All web wallets do have risk   on  lossing all your bitcoin on  it because  you dont posses   ts private keys. Thats why we should   only put up  small amounts of bitcoins  on  our web wallets.
8988  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Is wallet from exchanger safe? on: November 01, 2016, 12:56:11 PM
Besides xapo, coinbase and blockchain, I also use wallet from exchanger like from yobit, poloniex and bittrex. Sometimes I can't online for longtime because my career is sailor.

Is exchanger wallets safe?
As  other  members said  here as  long  you  dont have access  on your  private keys  your  bitcoins  is   not really safe being  left behind on  exchange wallets because  the risk  of  lossing  it  is  there and you heard about  exchange  being hacked then  you cant  do  nothing  with  it  if it happens and   your  bitcoin is totally lost. Better to transfer  it into a hardware wallet   if you are   a sailor  because its somehow  safe  rather than  keeping it on exchange wallets.
8989  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: November 01, 2016, 12:29:03 PM
the fastest way to grow btc is gambling but it is not for everyone

it's based on luck.. and luck isnt a method in my humble opinion... luck is a luck, if you have luck can use gambling for multiply coins
Gambling  does  really fully rely on  luck and  its  not a recommended   move   when  you are intending to make grow  on   your  money or  bitcoins. Gambling  doesnt  guarantee you  anytime   and  might  even  lose  up all your money when  you do tend  play gambling  for  long terms.  There are really lots of   investments  that could able to grow   your bitcoins its  either on trading  or  on investing  some  casino sites.
8990  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin may likely touch 728.68 before second week of November. on: November 01, 2016, 11:04:13 AM
No need  to wait  for  november  2nd week  because   it already hits  as  of  now as  its  show  on the  image  i  post. Its  coinbase price as  of  now   Novermber 1 of 2016. This is a really  good  price to see of bitcoin and if this  increase would still continue   then  we would able to see  $800  on this   year soon  but   we wont really know  on what would be  the price  since bitcoins price is  too  unpredictable , it may rise  and fall anytime.




8991  Economy / Gambling / Re: I tried my luck again in yobit dice game..But ended to lose on: November 01, 2016, 09:50:50 AM
I don't think the actual website Yobit is a scam. I used it for about a year or so and never had any issues. Most of the complaints on their thread are because of sh1tcoins which made people lose money but its not the exchanges fault. But I don't trust their dice gambler.

They are not scam though but last issue that I know is they ddint have provably fair system on their dice games. This is what makes people assumes that they are scammed though. More over many people tend to lose more on their site too, so this is what make people believe it they are scammed some money. But nothing wrong on their exchanger AFAIK

Better only join to provably fair site not on site the looks good to your eye. I hope you learn from your mistake cause you will lose more btc again if you dont learn

Yes exactly, its not fair for them not to make it provably fair. Who knows maybe it is legit and random but we are all bad gamblers who martingale and lost all our altcoins. But the proof with the provably fair seeds would help. I don't think they will post that however.


IIRC this thing is already reached yobit's team in the past and they didn't gave any clear answer about it. Personally for me i will never gamble in their dice because of the 2% house edge and not only because of the provably fair system.

I do  play on yobits  dice  and  i  definitely  lose  some  btc on  it and   i treat it as  a  normal  thing for dice sites  and  im  not questioning   their  provably fair  system because   most  of  dice games  would  really  give you  the same  results which  is  lossing but  in some dice  sites  you could somehow  assure yourself  that they are  fair  enough  because  they display the  seed  of  each bet compare to  yobit that doesnt  display at all.
8992  Economy / Speculation / Re: $700 HIT ^^ TARGET 900-1100 on: November 01, 2016, 06:52:56 AM
Still there is lots of resistance in $700 range so we may have to wait few more months to see price jumping over 800 or even over 900. Right now price may get stabilized above $700.

This is  what  i  observe too that  theres a  lot   of resistance on  $700 price and   i assume  it would really stabilize again its price  for  how many  months  as  of now  before trying to reach $800 price  unless if there another  adoption  news   regarding to  bitcoin  then for sure  price would surely goes  up. Lets  just wait even more.

I agree with  you, even though we  saw   sudden price increase  of bitcoins price as  of these days   going   from  $630+  -  $712 as  of now but still it wont reach even  $800-100  on this year for sure and as we observe on the movement of  the  price there are   sudden downs and  ups   which  is indicating that  it would  really hard to reach up  even on  $800 mark  but  its really achievable price but would really takes time.
8993  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: November 01, 2016, 06:04:39 AM
I never cried in gambling even i lose a lot of money because it is my own doing why that happened. I just use that moment to realize what are my mistakes, what are the solution that i can do and how will i recover the amount of money i loss that time.

You should really not cry because  its  your   own  fault to suffer such consequences  on  playing too much  excessive gambling.  You would really able  to realize  it when  you do experience all  of  those   non  good things . You would  surely realize  on the end  on the  mistakes that  youve done  but   you should   not  think off  on  gaining back  your losses  because  you would surely  lose  even  more  money. Better  to  stop gambling at all.
8994  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The House always wins. on: November 01, 2016, 04:20:44 AM
As  far  as  i  understand with this  situation. House  do always  win  on the sense that  they  make  money  on  every bet  of their  players  but  house dont do nothing about their  edge among the  players. House edge  is the percentage  that  are being taken  to  a certain bet  but  doesnt mean  its  the edge   of the house  in able to win against  the players. They are  provably fair  though , chances are   only differentiated by the house edge.
8995  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin trusted to put your real money on: October 31, 2016, 08:55:19 AM

If I put some of my money in bitcoin for the purpose of investment. Because I see the price of bitcoin each month continues to increase so I believe I will benefit. But I do it for the short term and usually every month if prices go up I immediately sold it and I transfer to my bank account. Bitcoin is very profitable to me. It is related to the Internet can be hacked, and therefore indispensable to safeguard information security.

Its still a good way  to  secure  yourself  on the risk related  to bitcoin and   its better   though to make short trades  on bitcoin and  you are right    bitcoins price do  really increase  on the the days  goes  by and  you would really gain profits  with it  even  in doing for short term.  Bitcoin is  a good  investment though but  we must  not  fully put  all of  our assets  on it  because  lossing of  money  would  be always there.
8996  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cloud Minig Vs Hardware Mining Which is best ? on: October 30, 2016, 06:41:54 AM
I think that hardware mining is the better choice because first of all there are a lot of ponzi schemes out there that pose as cloud mining companies and you can't really tell whether it's legit or not, and also you can sell your hardware and get some principal back after you're done mining.

Even hardware mining right now is not as good as it was. Especially if you do live in a country which the electricity bill is  quite high and the maintenance of your device is really not that easy that is why cloud mining is build. Actually the idea of cloud mining is really good but you are right that instead it was being used on trolling peoples mind out.

Hardware mining  could be still profitable  though  but as you mentioned   you should really need  some  amounts  regarding  on the expenses  on its maintenance   because   proper maintenance and   ventilation  is  crucial for  this  kind  of activity. Electricity  should  be  the most  thing   to be considered  if   its cheap then you would  be profitable enough. I agree with you cloud  mining  are just being created  for  those  who dont  like  to have hardware miners but  most of them are just ended  up as a scam.
8997  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is Freedom on: October 30, 2016, 06:11:47 AM
First of all I have no need to pay taxes on my work on earnings bitcoin. This is a fairly strong argument in favor of independence and freedom of action with bitcoin wallets.
And also bitcoin anonimity is give us freedom to do transaction every where without give our profile in the transaction. Tax and anonimity is the best of bitcoin beside the price that always rise. All people in the world have to use bitcoin.

I don't think bitcoin is that anonymous.   I think the freedom og bitcoin is the decentralized peer to peer system.  Government will have a hard time centralizing bitcoin because of its nature.  About tax, the government can do something about it. So bitcoin transfer or conversion to fiat money can have tax if the government want to impose tax on it.

Being anonymous  is already  included on the list  though  when we are talking about freedom because  we have the freedom to  hide  our  identities   regarding  on our transactions not on  generalization  but its still included and  i do agree with you  on your  point that  decentralized  p2p transactions would  be  the main thing  here because we  have all the access  and  control of  our money and  i cant think that  government would able to control bitcoin  anytime soon.
8998  Economy / Speculation / Re: $700 HIT ^^ TARGET 900-1100 on: October 30, 2016, 05:23:43 AM
i just hope your target of 900 whatever reaches slowly, the same way the current $700+ has been reached. otherwise we are going to see crashes too, and that's something that nobody wants to see with bitcoin.

Im hoping the same thing too on which bitcoins price would continue to  rise its price slowly  rather than  rising  up  on a form of hard  pump because after that situation we should also expect a hard dump and  thats already normal not compared to  gradual increase , crash would  not happen  anytime soon because bitcoin does  have a good support. I would  like to see bitcoins price  to  reach  even on $800 mark. For now  lets  just wait and witness the  movement of bitcoins price on  upcoming   more months.
8999  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin may likely touch 728.68 before second week of November. on: October 30, 2016, 04:58:49 AM
Technical analysis shown bitcoin my likely touch 728 before second week of november. Expert in the house what are your thought?. "This forecast has not been reviewed by a professional and should not be used for making financial decisions! Past performance does not guarantee future returns!".
Bitcoin price already reached $732 in coinbase today. Most likely we can reach $750 by November 1 or maybe tomorrow. Price is rising fast sincethis week starts. Cheesy
It goes down  to $710 as  of  now  on coinbase and this  thing  is  just  as expected. We should not really think too much  on the  price rally hence  this would surely  goes back  for a  bit and  as  OP claims 728 have been reached already  but   it didnt  support for too long  because  bitcoin  traders would surely sell  off their  bitcoins which  would  causely for bitcoin to reduce its price again  but we cant really avoid that bitcoins price would surely rise  up on the  long run.
9000  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin just hit $702 on GDAX.....fasten your seatbelts on: October 29, 2016, 10:40:15 AM
I haven't been keeping up do date. Why is Bitcoin rising so much? What happened?

Try to use   google and  search for the  most  latest  news  and  updates  on  bitcoins price and   the things  that affects  it. Theres no need   to  ask hence you could  do make some  research though. Im not  intending  to be harsh  but   there are already  lots  of threads regarding   on  bitcoins  sudden price increase.

I did try Google, just got random Bitcoin links. Like the latest price on coindesk, etc. This is much more natural. People are having a Bitcoin conversation, I join in and many are happy to explain it. In other situations where I Google the answer to a question, I land on a forum where someone else is asking the same question, and someone answer. At the same time someone else is there telling the person that they shouldn't be asking, that others have already asked. But it that person hadn't asked, those other people asking for the same question and Googling wouldn't have found it. So it helps the overall. It might even help those answering, getting them to think about it one more time.

I agree with you, there  are some things about  on  bitcoins related news  are  havent  being answered complete or can be found easily  on  the exact reason why things just happen thats why people would  really tend to  ask  even  if  not neccessary and   thats the nature  of  human they  would really ask   if they are curious  to a  certain thing but  if you are a sensible person you would  find or seek answers first  before trying to  ask  anybody. Back to topic,  im really glad that we reached  again  the  price of $700  and  hoping it would  not drop  again  is price below that price.
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