Just don't invest your money in the so called "cloud mining" sites, because most of them are scams and ponzi schemes. Even the real mining don't worth nowadays unless you have really cheap electricity
No matter how many times we advice people to stop "investing" money into cloud mining, they won't listen and do it anyway. All this because the cloud mining services promise them life time contracts that pays out a certain amount through their not existing mining operation. It's pure greed that is taking over peoples common sense. That's the hard reality. I agree with you, no matter how hard we advice or say to other people that cloudmining sites are just total scam they are just keeping on investing to those scam sites and we cant do anything about it since its their decision but they would definitely blame theirselves at the end and keep regretting because there greediness lead to this kind of mistakes. They should listen to those experienced user because we do already know the results of these schemes. The investor of cloudmining sites will not vanish since their some newbies whos been fooled by junkies to invest at those sites, and im sure if theirs no referral hungry people no newbies will be scam by cloudmining site, and we must remember this importantly all cloudmining is scam and theirs no good profits that we can get since they intend to scam not to give us profit. Those referral hungry people are also the main problem here on bitcoin world regarding on hyip and ponzi sites and these people are not newbies they are actually veterans which they make advantage to other people especially to newbies to let them convince to join a particular cloudmining site which they couldable to earn money with that without risking any money came from their profits which is a really wise thing that they do.
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cant say at end of Oct , but it will for sure end of year
Yeah same thought over here, not enough days in october to make that happen in my opinion but end of the year is a reachable goal. Right now we are at 630 so only 70 to go I wonder if we will make this goal in time for the year. Thw price is pumping as you can see it gains a little rally at this moment im monitoring the bitcoins price uptill now and earning some profits from my stake, and let see if the price would reach 700$ by the end of october and this price is achievable if no bad news will ruin its rally, and also the price rally is starting since its the christmas is coming and i've notice really at this season that the price is really go up faster. As you said if theres no bad new or anything that would affect bitcoins price to go down maybe it would increase even though in small amounts even gradually it would surely reach $700 price and yet we are still on 2nd week of october which is somehow achievable on last 2 weeks of october. The current price for btc is @ 600$+ so i think its achievable really since we are experiencing little rally up till now but we doesn't know if it will continue nor suddenly stop but one thing i am sure here whatever the price would bitcoin could be we can still earn huge profit for this coin, and if good faith let the price soar well this would be a great news to us since we can earn more money by bitcoins pressence. As i observe too theres a little price increase rally is happening on bitcoins price as of now since its gradually moving up and i really hope that it would continue even more so that we could able to see or witness the bitcoins price would able to touch the $700 price points which is already near i guess. Lets wait on what would be the movement of bitcoin in upcoming days, if this behavior would last then for sure it would definitely reach $700 in no time.
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I will be using LocalBitcoins, if I have 0.5 BTC I can sell up to 85% of that in my own advert then the rest on another person's advert. Is there a way to make a profit this way? Or is 0.5 simply not enough to start with?
Im starting trading with amount arround 0.3btc then i trade it everyday and take profit as much as possible, after 2month now i have 1bitcoin. i think the mininum capital to start trading is 0.1 Thats good for you .well i have 0.4 invested on different altcoins still waiting about 1 month .i hoping after two months to reach my first 1BTC cause the coins i inbestednis more on long term . 0.1 is good as long as you have a money but it is good to start low first especially if they are a beginner. Well, if I were you that you can make money in investing I think there is no limit for our capital, the more the better as we have more chance to make profit once it succeeds, newbie could start any amount he desire as long as he can afford to lose it. As a newbie or a starter you should invest only on trading on small amounts so that you would do it on trial basis which you could able to teach yourself when you are in the middle of trading and if you already got the fundamentals and basics then try to enhance it , the more experience you have the better chance of having succesful trades and when you observe that you are already doing a good job then its the right time to extent your capital for more profits.
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I think it is not necessary. Indeed, we need help from others to be able to stop gambling, but the intention and consistent in itself is more important. We can occupy themselves with other things such as streets with my friends, hang out with family, or if you often hold a laptop we could use trade. It is very difficult to stop gambling, but if we have the intention certainly doable.
Certainly, if others can do it, why can't we? for sure we can quit gambling if we really want to, and if we want to seek the help of others and our family probably what we need is a cheer, a motivation so we could stop and not those blames and whatever. But why we come in that stage, where we want to quit gambling? if we never cross our limit than we have no problem with it. Gambling became problem-able for us, when we totally depend on it and and in this way, we became addicted person, and most of the time gambling not suit for us. But still i am agree with you, If other can do it, So why we can't do it? You quit for two reasons, it is either you are not enjoying gambling or you enjoy the game but you are force you quit because you have been losing so much money and you are afraid to experience bankruptcy. Gambling is very entertaining but it is the most risky game for those who are irresponsible and seeking money instead of fun. YOu would surely quit if you realized and you are afraid if you do experienced already bankruptcy . Playing gambling for seeking profits is not a good idea at all from the very start because these things would surely put you up in to a big trouble in the end. Thats why when we intend to play gambling treat only as an entertainment. Very true but a gambling addict would able to realize if he would surely experience that scenario on which theres nothing left on him to gamble for more since he lost it on the past. With this situation he would find any ways to gamble even more but if he realized that theres nothing he could do then he would definitely stop and change his mind and deciding to quit gambling for good because he dont want to experience of being a broke person because of gambling.
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Just don't invest your money in the so called "cloud mining" sites, because most of them are scams and ponzi schemes. Even the real mining don't worth nowadays unless you have really cheap electricity
No matter how many times we advice people to stop "investing" money into cloud mining, they won't listen and do it anyway. All this because the cloud mining services promise them life time contracts that pays out a certain amount through their not existing mining operation. It's pure greed that is taking over peoples common sense. That's the hard reality. I agree with you, no matter how hard we advice or say to other people that cloudmining sites are just total scam they are just keeping on investing to those scam sites and we cant do anything about it since its their decision but they would definitely blame theirselves at the end and keep regretting because there greediness lead to this kind of mistakes. They should listen to those experienced user because we do already know the results of these schemes.
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This make me ask a question, how many Bitcoins are movimented in a month? and how many are "frozen"? I say one day a thread here have some statistics about the number of Bitcoins that never got transfered to another wallet... Don't know if the people lost the wallet or just holding...
No one here can calculate the transactions of bitcoin every month even everyday, and also we do not know if they just hold or they lost their bitcoin wallet. But for me if users keep holding and do not spending their coin the demand will fall down and also the price was affected it will fall down to. the flowing of currency is very very important. Event bitcoin is need to flowing to still appear. Holding bitcoin is a good for investment but. It is not good for bitcoin future. We must return the bitcoin function as a currency. I agree with you bitcoin ecosystem needs to move and with the way of spending our bitcoin so that it could cycle same as you said. Holding bitcoin isnt bad at ll since we could able to make money with that but its not helping the bitcoin ecosystem for it to grow in the future. If no one spends it bitcoins for sure bitcoins price would be stuck on the current price and we wouldnt see any movement of it.
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SFR was really good campaign manager, I have experience in his 2 campaign, really sad news that he is leaving position of manager.
Also I want to be a campaign manager, I was in 4 high paying signature campaign, I don't have +1 in trust but I amn't person who lies. If the author of this threads wants, I can be a manager of his campaign after he tells me paying rates and rules of campaign.
If you give me a chanse, I will do my best and will be as great manager as avirunes, sfr10 and etc are.
Anyone could be a signature campaign manager but it really depends on the owner of a site on which he would choose, for sure you would really have a hard time of being selected because most people would definitely choose the most reputable managers out there. Theres nothing impossible though you just need to make your account being a reputable one in able to be considered as a campaign manager.
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I have been doing Cloud Minning Script Like Hasocean ,HYIP Script ,MMM Global Clone Script ,PTC Evolution Script + revenue Share (Start Your OWN PTC) etc. I have made this post as now i am offering bitcoin matrix Script along with the admin panel at an affordable price so you can start your own Bitcoin matrix program like Zarfund.com, bitdonix.com, bitrising and many more. You can PM me but i prefer if you can Email me DeanaCombsf@aol.com for further discussion. Not to offend you but i do hate these kind of things when someone tries to offer his service or sold scripts on scamming purposes because these scripts are commonly used on scamming newbies out there to waste their money on this kind of investments hyips and ponzis. For sure there are peopl who would like to use your scripts . Ive done with this things thats why i hate this kind of post.
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Online gambling is gaining popularity, that is obvious. Bitcoin gambling can give many players exactly what they wish, anonymity, fast access, and we can gamble from our mobile phones. I agree with reasons in article, "bitcoin was born on the Internet and was made especially for online use", and this is why I also believe that bitcoin can dominate on online gambling scene. For sure not just for that, but that will be one of the things that people will spend most bitcoins.
Agree with this, bitcoins accesibility and fast treansactions are its edge compared to other payment methods or deposit methods. And people like this kind of convenience which they would like to use bitcoin on gambling as you said people would spend most bitcoins. Being anonymous is one of the most important feature especially to those gamblers which gambling is prohibited on their country. They could able to play without risking its identity.
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If you done quiting in trading just bring back the memories you already so much ideas from the trading and i think you should not to quot just because you lose bitcoin, Maybe it is just a new experience and you will learn alot of things by the year past just continue and you will earn more soon.
As we all read on the OP, we could say that hes been doing trading for almost 2 years already and out of 47 btc he only have 40 btc left which is somehow hes not doing good trades on past 2 years thats why he decide to quit gambling for good because those past two years is enough already to observe your trading and you found out that its not good and you still keep lossing trades then its really a good idea to quit to prevent more lose.
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I would say there would be no successful campaign outside this forum or in other forum reason being this is the one spot for bitcoin and other crypto coin users and one will always try to promote his/her site in front of large no. of users and bitcointalk is the best spot to promote it. I think bitcointalk is the only forum where we can get paid for our posts by taking part in signature campaigns and i never heard any other forum thats pays for posting.Because bitcointalk is the only the oldest and most trustable forum.
Nope, there is one other forum also have signature campaign on it. But there is only one signature campaign on that forum and limited for 20 members only IIRC. You can check it on forum.bitcoin.com Yeah OGNasty is the one behind managing that campaign. I guess it is the part of the same site games.bitcoin.com. Very good to hear that there are some forums does have also signature campaigns but as far as i know this forum bctalk have the highest traffic among all crypto forums throughout the net and not only on signature campaigns but also you could also search for possibly ways on how to earn here. All in one shall we say you just need to use the search button. There are forums that able to earn bitcoin but not as famous on bctalk.
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Lots of dark marketplaces are not very pleased by peopel becuase there are allot of peopel who put scam items in to a webshop like that and you wont get anything and that is such a shame when you pay something with the bitcoin.
It is better if you are not going to try to shop with dark marketplaces as it is expected that a lot of people there tend to scam visitors and shoppers there. And since then I am reading some articles that there are incidents who had scammed as they are able to make some transactions there. So I won't try any deals there and that is going to be my word. Its not always the case , if you are aware enough on the risk when you intend to shop on that place then you should do make yourself with safety precautionary measure but as you said i would not intend to shop on that place because of lots of scammers and the essence that is a darkmarket but theres still legit sellers out there but its really hard to trust especially to the goods that are being on sale on their.
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Fiat will never be worthless even if bitcoin price is $10,000 unless fiat is replaced by bitcoin. What I mean in replace is that the value of bitcoin will not depend on fiat anymore, it will have it's stand-alone value and will be used in daily lives, if that happens, fiat will be worthless but seeing it rise at that price, even if it is $100000 fiat will have worth unless no one will use it when that price is reached.
Even if bitcoin reaches to that price level, I don't think fiat will be worthless and people are who are not aware about btcoins will prefer to use fiat as its easy and convenient to use. You are right! And this will just show us how much potential for growth Bitcoin has and that it's value is very very tiny at the moment. Bitcoin will be used as safe haven and investment first by people who want to protect their wealth. Fiat will still be around and used by a majority of people. However the ones who know Bitcoin now and have a bit of skin in the game could possibly profit from it on a big scale in a few years. Can you imagine 1 satoshi = 1 dollar? Well, neither that the Bitcoin will have a good marketcap. Fiat money are controlated by governments, they will always have their place in economy, nothing can beat banks+governments. I certainly agree with your statement, everything requires the approval by the government and we cannot get easy approval that is why now bitcoin is till not legalize because it has no features that will comply with the government laws which is the KYC policy. This is true, every potential currency or full adoption would really require the approval othe the government of a certain country and as you said theres no way for bitcoin to be legalized because of some features of it and government would see it as a threat for them but not all. it really depend on what country though. Even bitcoins price would rose up enormously , fiat would still remain after all and it cant be possibly replace by bitcoin anytime soon.
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I won't waste my bitcoins just to have webcam sex. I can just google some websites that are offering this type of service for free. And I can remember of one signature campaign that is offering this type of service. If I'm not mistake that is xotica.tv and you can try to message VIKA NSFW if you want to avail her services.
Same here, i wont waste my bitcoin just to engage with this webcam sex its a crazy thing to do to waste your money which you could able to see this for free here in the internet world. Better to save your bitcoin for future use than to waste it with these kind of websites. I do also saw that sig campaign about xotica.tv. lol I've seen some people wasting their money for that kind of service and its totally awfull since you cannot see the girl in person and some of them are just recorded, so thats why i don't even bother to look up for that kind of service and not even throw even single money on any kind of that such sites, so i think its really better to look in pornsite since we can watch free and find better action. Agree, its better to watch porn sites compare on to these webcam sex which are totally a dumb thing to do and i agree some may be already recorded and you are just wasting you precious bitcoin just other would make fool of you. lol. Better to watch different porn scenes and they are free of charge Not if you want to act out your fantasies. I am happy in my relationship, so I do not need services like this, but there are people out there who have weird fantasies and they want to engage in a non-threatening way, not to endanger their partner. So they act out these fantasies in Cyber space. < Not saying this is good or bad > Some people do not have partners, for whatever reason, and engaging with pretty women and men online, might help them to cope with that. So let's not judge, before we know what every person's reason is. ^hmmmmm^ I have to agree. Everyone of us is different and has different desires and preferences. Some people don't think this is waist of money. Otherwise sex industry, web cams and prostitutes wouldn't exist and we all know these are one of the most profitable areas. So, don't judge, let people do what they like and spend their money how they like. Well where not judging anyone's money but i think we stated our very own opinion right there, but if people would be happy to have a sexchat partner online well let him be as long he is happy for that kind of act well that should be no problem on him, but for me i don't really find cam to cam sex chat be arousing since i cannot get satisfied easily on just single blink. Correct, its not judgement on others people money since we have our own will in different things and we differ in any way on our perceptions and decisions on certain things. If that thing would make them happy then let it be, we are just stating our own facts here and we should not contradicting our selves to each other and must respect on what other people say regarding with this matter. Spending bitcoin to these webcam girls wont be a wise decision for me at all though.
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of course hardware mining is better than cloud mining, most of the cloud mining is a scammed site, but to start earning from hardware mining you need a lot of capital and plus there are a lot of maintenance fee, nowadays mining is not as profitable as it used to be, but if your country has a long winter and cheap electricity then it is recommended to do it
Agree, hardware mining is a lot better compared to those cloudmining sites because you could able to see physically that you are really mining compared to those so called " cloud mining" but the big hindrance regarding these hardware mining is the cost on this kind of investment, as you said you would really lots of capital to invest into it because its isnt a joke to build a mining farm on your own and you must consider on the expenses on maintainance would surely cost you.
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I have applied on this campaign.
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Total capital payout from investment fund. (Total amount/ 12 payout/ mth)
*Investment return rate is 10% interest for the first 12 months from total amount of investment. (1-12 mth = 10% payout/ mth)
After 12 months of ROI payout, you will get a 5% interest payout from total amount of investment for the next 6 months. (13-18/ mth = 5% payout/ mth)
After 18 months of payout, you can get another 6 months 2.5% interest from you total capital. (19-24 mth = 2.5%/ mth)*
*Example*
$100k capital
$100k + 10%/ 12mth = $9166.66/ mth (1st year) = $110k
5% from $100k/ 6mth = $5000/ month (13-18 mth) = $30k
2.5% from $100k/ 6mth = $2500/ month (19-24 mth) = $15k
Total return of investment in 2 years will be 55% from total capital. = $155k
I could see that this rates are better compared to hyip and ponzi sites out there which offers almost double your money on 7 days period or even more which are totally scam but back here on your proposal on the said investment scheme. Its impossible for you to recruit someone regarding with this because you are not reputable enough to establish this and no one would tend to invest on huge amounts. Maybe you are trying to advertise a site or you are doing for yourself as holder of the funds. Quite confused because you didnt mention on how would the funds would be putted or stored.
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I would recommend a casino bankroll since it does not require any work and can easily give you great returns. I have used crypto-games and just-dice. Just make sure to spread your investment over multiple sites.
it would not guarantee our benefit. all forms of gambling game in my opinion is risky. so gambling is not a reason for us to get out of trading. He suppose to mean about investing on casino sites itself not on playing on it. Well its quite a good investment though as an alternative to gambling but one thing to be considered first when you intend to invest with it, you must have decent amounts of bitcoin so that you would feel the profits and remember risk of lossing your money is still there when one of the gambling sites would shut off then theres nothing you can do about it. As ive read on the OP he quit trading for good to prevent more losses he would suffer.
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I will trade my 23TBC to your PSB just message me I suppose no one would able to make trades with you regarding with the billion coin (tbc) which has already a thread here about its already a ponzi scam coin and i could somehow sure myself that its really a ponzi, how would you able to trade with psb(pesobit) which is already to an exchanger to a tbc which doesnt exist at all on any exchange sites and one im hesitant of this coins that its price doesnt go down. lol
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Hi Is there anything like this which will help me to use Bitcoin in my daily life.Like we have a map on the app or web.It shows people nearby you that are accepting bitcoin and services.Like someone living nearby Mcdonalds, he will add that i will accept bitcoin and let you eat at Mcdonalds(you pay him bitcoins..he gives cash to you).Same as traveling people nearby you add their services that for which things they can accept bitcoin.
Is there anything like this already.
yes , there are some countries in this world where you will also find a coffee shop which accepts bitcoin . but still it will take many time to happen like everyone during travel can accept bitcoin . There is also some restaurant here in my country that accepts bitcoin but it is just one place. Aside from this place, i can hardly find any other place that accepts bitcoin except the third party site processor where we can pay our bills and 7/11 store where we can top up our bitcoin credit on that site. You people are lucky that you have got places in your local market where bitcoin is accepted as payment for the things you want to buy. In my place there is no any shop where bitcoin is accepted but here in my places there are some people who can exchange my bitcoins with fiat so when I need fiat I go to exchange with them. Yeah is too hard to push a shop to accept bitcoin and i'm sure even in america/europe still not many shop place accept bitcoin so we are on trouble to use bitcoin in daily life at least only online shop has help use for use bitcoin in daily life. Even online shopping is not supporting me at a moment as if I shop anything using bitcoin then I need to pay higher shipping costs which is not affordable and profitable to me. Same in my situation even though there are merchants online who accepts btc as a payment but still the shipping fee would be the big hindrance for me to proceed on such transaction because fees are too big almost half on the items price which is bad at all thats why i normally exchange my bitcoin to fiat and would buy on the things i want to buy offline and physically its much better but the hassle on exchanging is there but there nor problem at all.
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