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9181  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is investing in mining still worth it? on: October 12, 2016, 01:58:08 PM
Just don't invest your money in the so called "cloud mining" sites, because most of them are scams and ponzi schemes. Even the real mining don't worth nowadays unless you have really cheap electricity
No matter how many times we advice people to stop "investing" money into cloud mining, they won't listen and do it anyway.

All this because the cloud mining services promise them life time contracts that pays out a certain amount through their not existing mining operation.

It's pure greed that is taking over peoples common sense. That's the hard reality.

I agree with you,  no matter  how hard  we  advice or  say to  other people that cloudmining  sites are just total scam they are  just  keeping  on investing to those scam sites and we  cant  do anything about it since its their decision  but  they would definitely blame theirselves  at the end  and keep regretting because  there greediness lead to this kind  of mistakes. They should  listen to those experienced  user  because   we do already know the  results of these schemes.


The investor of cloudmining sites will not vanish since their some newbies whos been fooled by junkies to invest at those sites, and im sure if theirs no referral hungry people no newbies will be scam by cloudmining site, and we must remember this importantly all cloudmining is scam and theirs no good profits that we can get since they intend to scam not to give us profit.

Those referral hungry people  are  also the main problem here  on bitcoin world  regarding   on  hyip and ponzi sites  and these people are not  newbies they are actually veterans which  they  make advantage to other  people especially to newbies to let them convince to join a  particular cloudmining site  which  they couldable to earn  money with that without risking any  money  came from their  profits  which is a really wise thing  that they do.
9182  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will price be at around $700 by end of october on: October 12, 2016, 01:54:29 PM
cant say at end of Oct , but it will for sure end of year

Yeah same thought over here, not enough days in october to make that happen in my opinion but end of the year is a reachable goal.
Right now we are at 630 so only 70 to go I wonder if we will make this goal in time for the year.


Thw price is pumping as you can see it gains a little rally at this moment im monitoring the bitcoins price uptill now and earning some profits from my stake, and let see if the price would reach 700$ by the end of october and this price is achievable if no bad news will ruin its rally, and also the price rally is starting since its the christmas is coming and i've notice really at this season that the price is really go up faster.
As you said  if theres  no bad  new or anything  that would  affect bitcoins price to go down  maybe it would  increase even  though  in small amounts even gradually it would surely reach $700 price and  yet we are still on 2nd week  of  october which is somehow achievable  on last 2 weeks  of october.


The current price for btc is @ 600$+ so i think its achievable really since we are experiencing little rally up till now but we doesn't know if it will continue nor suddenly stop but one thing i am sure here whatever the price would bitcoin could be we can still earn huge profit for this coin, and if good faith let the price soar well this would be a great news to us since we can earn more money by bitcoins pressence.

As i observe too theres a little  price increase rally is  happening  on bitcoins price as of  now since its gradually moving  up and i really  hope that  it would continue  even more so that we could able to see or witness  the bitcoins price would able to  touch the  $700 price points which is  already near  i guess. Lets wait  on what would be  the  movement  of  bitcoin in  upcoming days, if this behavior would  last then for sure  it  would definitely reach $700 in no time.
9183  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Minimum Amount To Start Trading? on: October 12, 2016, 01:33:06 PM
I will be using LocalBitcoins, if I have 0.5 BTC I can sell up to 85% of that in my own advert then the rest on another person's advert. Is there a way to make a profit this way? Or is 0.5 simply not enough to start with?

Im starting trading with amount arround 0.3btc then i trade it everyday and take profit as much as possible, after 2month now i have 1bitcoin.
i think the mininum capital to start trading is 0.1
Thats good for you .well i have 0.4 invested on different altcoins still waiting about 1 month .i hoping after two months to reach my first 1BTC cause the coins i inbestednis more on long term .
0.1 is good as long as you have a money but it is good to start low first especially if they are a beginner.
Well, if I were you that you can make money in investing I think there is no limit for our capital, the more the better as we have more chance to make profit once it succeeds, newbie could start any amount he desire as long as he can afford to lose it.

As a newbie  or a starter you should  invest  only  on trading  on small  amounts   so that  you would  do it  on trial basis which you could able  to teach yourself   when you are  in the middle of trading and if you already  got the  fundamentals and  basics then try to enhance it , the  more experience  you have the better  chance  of  having  succesful trades  and when you observe that you are already doing a good job then  its the right time to extent your capital for more  profits.
9184  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling. on: October 12, 2016, 01:05:44 PM
I think it is not necessary. Indeed, we need help from others to be able to stop gambling, but the intention and consistent in itself is more important. We can occupy themselves with other things such as streets with my friends, hang out with family, or if you often hold a laptop we could use trade. It is very difficult to stop gambling, but if we have the intention certainly doable.

Certainly, if others can do it, why can't we? for sure we can quit gambling if we really want to, and if we want to seek the help of others and our family probably what we need is a cheer, a motivation so we could stop and not those blames and whatever.

But why we come in that stage, where we want to quit gambling? if we never cross our limit than we have no problem with it. Gambling became problem-able for us, when we totally depend on it and  and in this way, we became addicted person, and most of the time gambling not suit for us.   
But still i am agree with you, If other can do it, So why we can't do it?
You quit for two reasons, it is either you are not enjoying gambling or you enjoy the game but you are force you quit because you have been losing so much money and you are afraid to experience bankruptcy.

Gambling is very entertaining but it is the most risky game for those who are irresponsible and seeking money instead of fun.

YOu would surely quit  if  you  realized  and  you are  afraid if you do experienced already bankruptcy  . Playing gambling   for seeking profits is not  a good  idea at all from the very start because  these things would   surely  put  you up  in to a big  trouble in the end. Thats why  when we  intend to play gambling  treat  only as an entertainment.

Very true but  a gambling addict  would able to realize  if  he would surely experience that scenario on  which theres nothing  left on him to gamble  for more since he lost  it  on the past. With this situation  he would  find any ways  to gamble even more but  if he realized  that  theres nothing he could do then  he would  definitely stop and   change his  mind and  deciding to quit gambling for  good  because  he dont want  to experience of  being a broke person because  of gambling.
9185  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is investing in mining still worth it? on: October 12, 2016, 11:52:01 AM
Just don't invest your money in the so called "cloud mining" sites, because most of them are scams and ponzi schemes. Even the real mining don't worth nowadays unless you have really cheap electricity
No matter how many times we advice people to stop "investing" money into cloud mining, they won't listen and do it anyway.

All this because the cloud mining services promise them life time contracts that pays out a certain amount through their not existing mining operation.

It's pure greed that is taking over peoples common sense. That's the hard reality.

I agree with you,  no matter  how hard  we  advice or  say to  other people that cloudmining  sites are just total scam they are  just  keeping  on investing to those scam sites and we  cant  do anything about it since its their decision  but  they would definitely blame theirselves  at the end  and keep regretting because  there greediness lead to this kind  of mistakes. They should  listen to those experienced  user  because   we do already know the  results of these schemes.
9186  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If no one spends bitcoin what might happen? on: October 12, 2016, 10:50:12 AM
This make me ask a question, how many Bitcoins are movimented in a month? and how many are "frozen"?
I say one day a thread here have some statistics about the number of Bitcoins that never got transfered to another wallet... Don't know if the people lost the wallet or just holding...
No one here can calculate the transactions of bitcoin every month even everyday, and also we do not know if they just hold or they lost their bitcoin wallet.
But for me if users keep holding and do not spending their coin the demand will fall down and also the price was affected it will fall down to.
the flowing of currency is very very important. Event bitcoin is need to flowing to still appear. Holding bitcoin is a good for investment but. It is not good for bitcoin future. We must return the bitcoin function as a currency.

I agree with you bitcoin ecosystem needs  to  move and  with the way  of  spending  our  bitcoin so that  it could  cycle same as you said. Holding  bitcoin isnt bad at ll since we could able to make  money with that but  its not  helping the  bitcoin  ecosystem  for  it  to grow  in the future. If no  one spends it bitcoins for sure bitcoins price would  be stuck on  the current price and we wouldnt see any movement  of it.
9187  Economy / Services / Re: Campaign manager needed on: October 12, 2016, 10:18:34 AM
SFR was really good campaign manager, I have experience in his 2 campaign, really sad news that he is leaving position of manager.

Also I want to be a campaign manager, I was in 4 high paying signature campaign, I don't have +1 in trust but I amn't person who lies. If the author of this threads wants, I can be a manager of his campaign after he tells me paying rates and rules of campaign.

If you give me a chanse, I will do my best and will be as great manager as avirunes, sfr10 and etc are.



Anyone could be  a signature  campaign manager  but  it really depends  on the owner  of a site  on which  he would  choose, for sure you would really have a  hard time of being selected because   most  people would  definitely choose the  most reputable managers  out there.  Theres nothing  impossible though you just need   to  make  your account  being a reputable  one  in able   to be considered as  a campaign manager.
9188  Economy / Services / Re: Bitcoin matrix with spillovers Script avaiable for cheap on: October 12, 2016, 05:46:29 AM
I have been doing Cloud Minning Script Like Hasocean ,HYIP Script ,MMM Global Clone Script ,PTC Evolution Script + revenue Share (Start Your OWN PTC) etc.

I have made this post as now i am offering bitcoin matrix Script along with the admin panel at an affordable price so you can start your own Bitcoin matrix program like Zarfund.com, bitdonix.com, bitrising and many more.


You can PM me but i prefer if you can Email me DeanaCombsf@aol.com for further discussion.

Not to offend you but  i do hate   these kind of things  when someone tries to offer  his  service or sold  scripts on scamming purposes because these  scripts are commonly used  on scamming  newbies out there  to waste their money on this  kind of  investments hyips and ponzis.  For sure there are  peopl who would  like to  use  your  scripts . Ive done  with this things thats  why i hate this  kind of post.
9189  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 5 Reasons Why Online Gamblers Should Use Bitcoin on: October 11, 2016, 12:38:12 PM
Online gambling is gaining popularity, that is obvious. Bitcoin gambling can give many players exactly what they wish, anonymity, fast access,
and we can gamble from our mobile phones.
I agree with reasons in article, "bitcoin was born on the Internet and was made especially for online use", and this is why I also believe that
bitcoin can dominate on online gambling scene. For sure not just for that, but that will be one of the things that people will spend most bitcoins.


Agree with this,  bitcoins  accesibility and  fast treansactions are its  edge  compared to other  payment methods  or  deposit methods. And people  like  this  kind of  convenience which they would  like  to use bitcoin on gambling as you said  people  would spend  most  bitcoins. Being anonymous is one  of the  most important feature especially to those  gamblers  which gambling is  prohibited on their country. They could able  to play without  risking  its identity.
9190  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: October 11, 2016, 09:40:32 AM
If you done quiting in trading just bring back the memories you already so much ideas from the trading and i think you should not to quot just because you lose bitcoin, Maybe it is just a new experience and you will learn alot of things by the year past just continue and you will earn more soon.

As we all read on the OP, we could say that  hes  been doing trading for almost 2 years already and  out of 47 btc  he only have 40 btc left which is  somehow  hes not  doing good trades  on past  2 years thats  why  he  decide to quit gambling  for  good  because   those past two years  is  enough already to observe your trading  and you found out  that  its not good  and you still keep lossing trades  then  its really a good idea to quit  to prevent  more  lose.
9191  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Other forum site that earn bitcoin? on: October 11, 2016, 08:43:07 AM
I would say there would be no successful campaign outside this forum or in other forum reason being this is the one spot for bitcoin and other crypto coin users and one will always try to promote his/her site in front of large no. of users and bitcointalk is the best spot to promote it.

I think bitcointalk is the only forum where we can get paid for our posts by taking part in signature campaigns and i never heard any other forum thats pays for posting.Because bitcointalk is the only the oldest and most trustable forum.

Nope, there is one other forum also have signature campaign on it. But there is only one signature campaign on that forum and limited for 20 members only IIRC. You can check it on forum.bitcoin.com

Yeah OGNasty is the one behind managing that campaign. I guess it is the part of the same site games.bitcoin.com.

Very good to hear that  there are some  forums  does have also signature  campaigns  but  as far as  i know this forum bctalk  have the  highest traffic among all  crypto forums throughout the net and  not only  on  signature campaigns  but  also you could also search for possibly ways  on how to earn  here. All in  one shall we say  you just need  to use the search button. There are forums  that  able to earn bitcoin but not as famous  on  bctalk.
9192  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Dark marketplaces? on: October 11, 2016, 07:16:22 AM
Lots of dark marketplaces are not very pleased by peopel becuase there are allot of peopel who put scam items in to a webshop like that and you wont get anything
and that is such a shame when you pay something with the bitcoin.

It is better if you are not going to try to shop with dark marketplaces as it is expected that a lot of people there tend to scam visitors and shoppers there.

And since then I am reading some articles that there are incidents who had scammed as they are able to make some transactions there.

So I won't try any deals there and that is going to be my word.

Its not always the case , if you are  aware  enough on the risk  when you  intend to shop on that  place  then you should  do make yourself  with safety precautionary  measure but as  you said i would not intend to  shop on that place because of lots of  scammers  and the  essence that is  a darkmarket but  theres still legit  sellers  out there  but its really hard to trust  especially to the goods  that are  being on sale  on their.
9193  Economy / Economics / Re: If bitcoin price is $10.000, will fiat be worthless? on: October 11, 2016, 05:33:40 AM
Fiat will never be worthless even if bitcoin price is $10,000 unless fiat is replaced by bitcoin. What I mean in replace is that the value of bitcoin will not depend on fiat anymore, it will have it's stand-alone value and will be used in daily lives, if that happens, fiat will be worthless but seeing it rise at that price, even if it is $100000 fiat will have worth unless no one will use it when that price is reached.
Even if bitcoin reaches to that price level, I don't think fiat will be worthless and people are who are not aware about btcoins will prefer to use fiat as its easy and convenient to use.

You are right!
And this will just show us how much potential for growth Bitcoin has and that it's value is very very tiny at the moment.
Bitcoin will be used as safe haven and investment first by people who want to protect their wealth.
Fiat will still be around and used by a majority of people.
However the ones who know Bitcoin now and have a bit of skin in the game could possibly profit from it on a big scale in a few years.

Can you imagine 1 satoshi = 1 dollar? Well, neither that the Bitcoin will have a good marketcap.
Fiat money are controlated by governments, they will always have their place in economy, nothing can beat banks+governments.
I certainly agree with your statement, everything requires the approval by the government and we cannot get easy approval that is why now bitcoin is till not legalize because it has no features that will comply with the government laws which is the KYC policy.

This is  true, every potential  currency or full  adoption would  really require the approval othe  the government of a certain country and  as you said  theres no way for bitcoin to be  legalized because  of some  features  of it and  government would see it as  a  threat for them but not all. it really depend on what  country though. Even bitcoins price would rose up  enormously , fiat would still remain after all and it cant  be  possibly replace by bitcoin anytime soon.
9194  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Webcam sex for bitcoins on: October 11, 2016, 04:19:42 AM
I won't waste my bitcoins just to have webcam sex. I can just google some websites that are offering this type of service for free. And I can remember of one signature campaign that is offering this type of service. If I'm not mistake that is xotica.tv and you can try to message VIKA NSFW if you want to avail her services.

Same here, i wont waste  my bitcoin  just to engage with this  webcam sex its a crazy thing to do to waste your money  which you could able to see this for  free here in  the  internet world. Better to save your bitcoin for future  use than to waste it  with these  kind of websites. I do also saw that sig campaign about xotica.tv. lol

I've seen some people wasting their money for that kind of service and its totally awfull since you cannot see the girl in person and some of them are just recorded, so thats why i don't even bother to look up for that kind of service and not even throw even single money on any kind of that such sites, so i think its really better to look in pornsite since we can watch free and find better action. Cheesy


Agree, its better  to  watch porn sites  compare on to these webcam sex which are  totally a dumb thing to do and i agree some may be already recorded and  you are  just wasting  you precious bitcoin  just other would  make fool of you. lol. Better to watch  different  porn scenes  and they are  free of charge Grin

Not if you want to act out your fantasies. I am happy in my relationship, so I do not need services like this, but there are people out there who have weird fantasies and they want to engage in a non-threatening way, not to endanger their partner. So they act out these fantasies in Cyber space. < Not saying this is good or bad >

Some people do not have partners, for whatever reason, and engaging with pretty women and men online, might help them to cope with that.

So let's not judge, before we know what every person's reason is. ^hmmmmm^

I have to agree. Everyone of us is different and has different desires and preferences. Some people don't think this is waist of money. Otherwise sex industry, web cams and prostitutes wouldn't exist and we all know these are one of the most profitable areas. So, don't judge, let people do what they like and spend their money how they like.

Well where not judging anyone's money but i think we stated our very own opinion right there, but if people would be happy to have a sexchat partner online well let him be as long he is happy for that kind of act well that should be no problem on him, but for me i don't really find cam to cam sex chat be arousing since i cannot get satisfied easily on just single blink.

Correct, its  not   judgement on  others people money since we  have  our own  will in  different things and  we differ in any way on  our perceptions and   decisions on  certain things. If   that thing would  make them  happy then  let it  be, we are  just   stating  our own facts here and  we  should  not contradicting  our selves to each  other and  must respect  on what  other people say regarding with this matter. Spending bitcoin to these  webcam girls wont be   a wise  decision for me at all though.
9195  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cloud Minig Vs Hardware Mining Which is best ? on: October 11, 2016, 03:44:50 AM
of course hardware mining is better than cloud mining, most of the cloud mining is a scammed site, but to start earning from hardware mining you need a lot of capital and plus there are a lot of maintenance fee, nowadays mining is not as profitable as it used to be, but if your country has a long winter and cheap electricity then it is recommended to do it

Agree, hardware  mining is  a lot better   compared to those  cloudmining sites because  you could able to see physically  that  you are  really mining compared to those  so called " cloud mining"  but the  big hindrance regarding  these   hardware mining  is  the  cost  on this  kind  of investment, as you said  you  would really  lots  of capital to invest into it because  its  isnt a joke  to build a mining  farm  on   your  own  and you must consider on the expenses  on maintainance  would surely cost  you.
9196  Economy / Services / Re: CoinMixer.se | Signature Campaign on: October 09, 2016, 11:23:41 PM
I have applied on this campaign.
9197  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 100k USD! Bitcoin funding investment! on: October 09, 2016, 10:37:58 AM
Total capital payout from investment fund.
(Total amount/ 12 payout/ mth)

*Investment return rate is 10% interest for the first 12 months from total amount of investment.
(1-12 mth = 10% payout/ mth)

After 12 months of ROI payout, you will get a 5% interest payout from total amount of investment for the next 6 months.
(13-18/ mth = 5% payout/ mth)

After 18 months of payout, you can get another 6 months 2.5% interest from you total capital.
(19-24 mth = 2.5%/ mth)*

*Example*

$100k capital

$100k + 10%/ 12mth = $9166.66/ mth (1st year) = $110k

5% from $100k/ 6mth = $5000/ month (13-18 mth) = $30k

2.5% from $100k/ 6mth = $2500/ month (19-24 mth) = $15k

Total return of investment in 2 years will be 55% from total capital. = $155k

I could see that this  rates are  better compared to  hyip and  ponzi sites  out there which offers  almost double  your  money  on  7 days period  or even  more which are totally scam but  back here  on your  proposal  on the said  investment scheme. Its  impossible for you to recruit someone regarding with this   because  you are not reputable  enough to  establish this and  no one  would tend  to  invest on  huge amounts. Maybe  you are trying to advertise a site or  you are doing  for yourself as holder of the funds. Quite confused  because  you didnt mention  on  how  would the funds would be  putted or  stored.
9198  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: October 09, 2016, 10:28:24 AM
I would recommend a casino bankroll since it does not require any work and can easily give you great returns. I have used crypto-games and just-dice. Just make sure to spread your investment over multiple sites.
it would not guarantee our benefit. all forms of gambling game in my opinion is risky. so gambling is not a reason for us to get out of trading.

He suppose to mean  about  investing  on casino sites itself  not  on playing on it. Well  its  quite a good investment  though as  an alternative to gambling  but  one thing  to be considered first   when you intend to  invest with it, you must have decent amounts of bitcoin   so that you would feel the profits and remember risk of lossing your  money  is still there when  one of the gambling sites would shut off then theres nothing you can do about it. As ive read on the OP he quit trading for good to prevent more  losses  he would  suffer.
9199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: TBC (Thebillion coin) - PSB on: October 09, 2016, 09:48:19 AM
I will trade my 23TBC to your PSB just message me Smiley

I suppose  no one  would  able to  make trades with you regarding with  the billion coin (tbc) which has already a thread here  about its already a ponzi scam coin and i could somehow  sure  myself  that  its  really a  ponzi, how  would you able to trade  with psb(pesobit) which is already to an exchanger   to a  tbc which  doesnt exist  at all  on any exchange sites and  one  im hesitant of this  coins that its price  doesnt  go down. lol
9200  Other / Off-topic / Re: use Bitcoin in daily life? on: October 09, 2016, 09:12:15 AM
Hi
Is there anything like this which will help me to use Bitcoin in my daily life.Like we have a map on the app or web.It shows people nearby you that are accepting bitcoin and services.Like someone living nearby Mcdonalds, he will add that i will accept bitcoin and let you eat at Mcdonalds(you pay him bitcoins..he gives cash to you).Same as traveling people nearby you add their services that for which things they can accept bitcoin.

Is there anything like this already.
yes , there are some countries in this world where you will also find a coffee shop which accepts bitcoin . but still it will take many time to happen like everyone during travel can accept bitcoin .

There is also some restaurant here in my country that accepts bitcoin but it is just one place.  Aside from this place, i can hardly find any other place that accepts bitcoin except the third party site processor where we can pay our bills and 7/11 store where we can top up our bitcoin credit on that site.
You people are lucky that you have got places in your local market where bitcoin is accepted as payment for the things you want to buy. In my place there is no any shop where bitcoin is accepted but here in my places there are some people who can exchange my bitcoins with fiat so when I need fiat I go to exchange with them.
Yeah is too hard to push a shop to accept bitcoin and i'm sure even in america/europe still not many shop place accept bitcoin so we are on trouble to use bitcoin in daily life at least only online shop has help use for use bitcoin in daily life.

Even online shopping is not supporting me at a moment as if I shop anything using bitcoin then I need to pay higher shipping costs which is not affordable and profitable to me.

Same in my situation even  though there are  merchants online who accepts btc as a payment  but still the  shipping  fee would be the big hindrance for  me  to proceed on such transaction  because   fees are too  big  almost half  on the  items  price which is  bad at all thats why  i normally  exchange my bitcoin to fiat and  would  buy on the things  i want to buy offline and  physically its  much better  but the hassle  on exchanging  is there but  there nor problem at all.
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