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9001  Economy / Securities / Re: Putting 10 BTC to good use on: October 29, 2016, 10:17:19 AM
i just want to say that it's so easy to turn 10btc into 15btc in a couple weeks of time

i have a sure way of doing it.

i've been thinking of selling the idea. i've done it a couple times. it's not gambling. it works 100%. (i can no longer do it, it's capped per person) a lot of people have done it/ are doing it.

i've been thinking of selling the idea for 2btc. problem is, i have no way of stopping the person who buys it from telling/selling to other people.

just throwing this rant out there, that i'm sitting on it and i won't be sharing it  because i can't think of a way for it to benefit me enough, i'm selfish:P

Lol, I think nobody will buy a money maker method for 2 btc without informations and details about it first. It's too expensive... And maybe can't work for some people as worked for you. And if someone buys it, surely this one will try to resell the idea cheaper and so on...

it would work for most people, and if i sold it, i would have the 2btc held in escrow not with me. until say they made 4 btc doing it.

but like i said, i won't sell it, because gaining only 2 btc isn't worth it to me when whoever i sell to will likely just tell other people

I would not tend  to sell  it too and  better  to spoil  it forever as  long i made money with it and dont tend to tell to  anyone. Im greedy and selfish. lol.  If  you would  tell it   to someone  for sure  it would  spread like a disease and would  be abuse and therefore  the time would  come that method wont  work anymore.

I  agree with zadicar its better to  spoil  it  because   you could already  make   money with that  method   and  dont  tend  to sell that method for sure  it will scatter and anytime soon it  will got  busted   because there are lots of   people are already using it. 2 btc is  just  for temporary profit compared  on  making profit with that method that  might  last  even more. Well its   youre decision  to sell it to public but i dont  think theres an easy way to make  such  profits like that.
9002  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to make a successful Trade? on: October 29, 2016, 09:45:08 AM
technical analysis are most important for successful trade. No one will be able to predict super accurate calls without technical analysis, pivot point analysis must be one of my favourite technical analysis tool. Reading candlestick patterns also helps me to make better trading calls.
Yes, there are a lot of strategies techniques and tools are available to make our trading successful, but I believe a strong money management will enough to be successful in trading by avoiding any big losses.
I have experience in Forex trading, but bitcoin trading is hundred percent easier compared to Forex trading. Yes, in my bitcoin trading I'm able to consistently make profits.
When you tend  up to engage  into trading  we  must really learn  up the   things and  new  things would  come  that  would really needed  on trading career. You are right  i think forex is  much  more harder  compared  to crpyto trading  hence  i do experience forex for sometime and also  you would really need  huge capital to  put  unlike  on  crypto  it really depends on you  on how  much you  would  put in.
9003  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Best Cloud Miner on: October 29, 2016, 09:23:22 AM
Hello, I would like to ask does anyone know a good cloud miner , because I have used one but just never got any profit , Please only say miners that you have used and gave you profit !

Thank you for reading and have a Great Day!

Hi OP,  you should change  your  perspective  regarding  onto these cloudmining sites  because   its  not ideal to  join  one of these  because they are  just total scams  and   such a waste  on your money. Dont let   to  lose  even  more  money  intending to join more cloud  mining site which is  not a good choice to  continue.  Theres  no  best cloud  mining company as  of now  better to  invest  on  actual hard  mining .
9004  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Playing poker is a gambling activity? on: October 29, 2016, 06:14:19 AM
Playing poker is not to be called gambling it is gabling games , but playing with a bet will be gambling now .
If you played proffesionally it depends on how you will play if you will play to represent a country it is not a gambling.
if you played in a company it is called a job .
I think this 3 is the differences .

-Silverpunk-

Very well said   , these  things  i could  also to think off  about playing  poker. I want to add its  just really a card  game  which does people would really to  put  up   money on  it   to increase  the   thrill and entertainment   thats  why  its  already called  a  gambling game  hence   it already  involves money  and as we all know   in  gambling   youare risking your  money to earn  money .
9005  Economy / Economics / Re: How many coins did you have during the rise? on: October 29, 2016, 05:51:20 AM
I didnt able to   buy  bitcoin as of that time  since  ive  know  bitcoin on  year 2015 and didnt  able to witness  on  bitcoins price  like that  high. FOr sure those  people who didnt able  to  sell off their  bitcoin on to that price would  somehow regret  and also  to those  people who  bought bitcoin  on those  pricepoint would surely regret.
Even myself came very late when the price of bitcoin has aready gone up, Now I wish during the 2009 period I would have came across it and invested some money, then I would have been very rich by now a days.

Most people would  wish the same thing too or  even think  to  go travel  back to that  time. Smiley .  Early adoptors   of   bitcoin did get   decent  amount of  money for those   who able to keep  it  for  long  and now as we can see on the current  price of  bitcoin   they would surely make   huge  money with it, as we can see it  already hit again  on  $700 price point as  of today. Regretting for those days are  normal  because  we are  just  humans and do  have  different decisions.
9006  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin, Gold and USD on: October 29, 2016, 05:02:19 AM
I think bitcoin will be the best choice

Because it's more valuable in market now, And it possible will grow up in near future.
i also think so, although gold and USD are the more stable in present time but we an expect very little increase in its price and must have to wait a lot. while investing in bitcon can give you  a good profit in a very very short period of  time. so so me also the best option is to invest in bitcoin rather that nay where else.

bitcoin has always been the best choice when it comes to investment. it is already above $700 proving that the rise is here to stay.
but USD or fiats in general are a part of out lives and we need them no matter what.

What you told is 100% correct because bitcoin and gold are good investments and usd you need to run your daily needs and life. So i think making choice will not be so real as if any one is offering you all 3 you wont tell that i need only bitcoin. As you are in bitcoin world you will go with bitcoin but if you see the real facts then you will not consider single investment plans, even if the price of bitcoin is going up up. but their can happen anything in life if bitcoin crashes that time you will think of another option.

Choosing  only 1   among the three would  really give you a  problem and also  those   2  things  like  bitcoin and  gold wont  have  no value  if  usd   is absent  and  infact usd   is  on another  catergory i guess   because   its a fiat currency and   its already a necessity  for   us  humans to have  money  for our daily needs and survival and those two things like  bitcoin and  gold are  investments which  we could able  to make  more fiat.
9007  Other / Archival / Re: Which one is more risky? Skill-based gambling or trading? on: October 28, 2016, 08:50:47 AM
Both have  the same risk of  lossing  money  skill based gambling   and   trading  but  i could really say that  trading  is   much away  better than  doing   those  skills  based   gambling  i suppose  OP is referring to   sports betting for sure . In trading  you could   maximize   your  profits   and   diversify  your  money  to coins which  do have  potential  and could  able  to give you  profits that  you cant  get from sports  betting. The  disadvantage  though  in trading is the waiting time  compare  to gambling which  the results  are  more way faster.
9008  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Best Cloud Miner on: October 28, 2016, 07:28:12 AM
Some members  do  suggest hashflare and genesis  for cloud  mining which  is   somehow a  good  to invest  but    it would really need decent amounts to  feel the profit  on  investing to this   kind  of cloud  mining  activities but still i dont  have trust to  these  things anymore. Even though they were  trying   to say  about  its  profitability  but  it wont convince  me anymore. For OP you could actually choose  both  on genesis or hashflare. Its  up to you  which really suits  you.
9009  Economy / Speculation / Re: Whos pumping bitcoin now? on: October 28, 2016, 06:45:53 AM
Before I sleep last night the price was just below 660, and now it is above 680. It even hit 690 at one point. It this a legit price increase or is it just a pump for the holiday? Why does bitcoin price seems to pump around this time of the year?

Actually  im  wondering the same thing too  when  the  bitcoin price  moves too fast  in  previous days even it  moves $10  on a single  night, same to   your situation  but  i  do some research  regarding on the new and  i found  out with this statement from news.( " Almost one million bitcoins, worth more than half a billion dollars, are currently stuck in no man’s land as the network struggles to meet rising demand from China. ) So this means   Huge demands  from  china  do have a  major  impact on this  price increase which  we could say they  manage  to bought million of  bitcoin.
9010  Economy / Economics / Re: Passive Income on: October 28, 2016, 06:19:32 AM
I have tried a few investments outside of bitcoin like stocks, mutual funds and bank services. All of them generated medium amount of profit over the years. Now that I am into bitcoin, this gives me another source of passive income by simply holding what I buy and just waiting for the price to increase, as what's happening right now.

Yeah. In order to really earn profit with passive income, in my opinion, I think that you would need to invest a good amount of money in order to get good results. Still, in my own point of view, passive income is great for when there are times that you cannot work, making you money while you sit back and watch the profits grow. I usually, find coin staking as a method of earning passive income too. My choices are always PoS coins which have a high stake rate like Diamond. Just my opinion.  Smiley
Passive income is only good for the rich people as they have all the money and the resources to work for it, for us who belongs to the level of poor or average life we are more concern on the active income, and time will come if we will be able to save we might invest and gain passive income.
You have a point,  those rich people  does have the capability to make such  passive  incomes  because  they could able to make   many  investments  which would generate  earnings  without too  much  effort and  diversifying their  money  on any  possible good  investment that they saw  but still   some rich  people  do came  only from  poor ones  they  are just   lucky enough   that  their  hard work   pays off to them.
9011  Other / Off-topic / Re: Should I convert my savings into Bitcoin? on: October 28, 2016, 05:50:57 AM
I am thinking in investing my savings into Bitcoin and try to get some profit when the price of BTC goes up, but is it actually profitable?

It would  be really profitable   if  bitcoins  price would rose  up   higher   than to your  buying price and  you could   surely  gain  profit with that.  You could actually   put    your savings  into bitcoin  hence this  is somewhat  already  an  investment for  long term  or even short term  but  i would   recommend  that  put  only  on the  amount that  you could afford  to lose or lessen  on  upcoming   years  because we cant be sure already  on the   price  of bitcoin  on  near future  because  of  its  volatility and  we muts   really aware on that  when  we  intend to   put  money  into bitcoin.
9012  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How do caculate how many hours can i receive bitcoin transaction.? on: October 28, 2016, 05:26:27 AM
You can't calculate preciselly how long it will take for transaction to get confirmed by the network. It depends on the fee and the amount of other transactions
with same priority, and that's always a variable value. The best you can do is use recommended fee+, and cross fingers.

That  cross finger thing  made me  laugh. lol. By the way  as  he  mentioned  we  cat really  calculate   on how  long  it would  confirm  because  it really depends  on the network. If you  dont  put  any fee    when  you transfer  bitcoin then  for sure  it would   took  long   enough  some  have  the same problem too hence they even  wait   more  longer hours  than  you, some   take  up to 36 hours  but in  my case  max is  3 hours   hence i  do  always   put above average  fees when  i do send  bitcoin to another wallet   if  im in a rush then  put  up more fee would be  recommended  but if not  then  dont bother to do so.
9013  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: October 27, 2016, 01:38:38 PM
Yes i can control  myself  when  im  playing gambling and i dont let my temper  and  emotion  would control me  because  if i  let these emotions    would overcome  me  for sure i would  really make   bad decision and which causes  for  me    to get  lose  on  playing gambling. Self  control and awareness would really be a good  thing   that would help you  so that  you wont get easily addicted and  wrecked  by gambling.
9014  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: October 27, 2016, 01:15:54 PM

Correct, trading is  a risky investment  if you are  not  knowledgeable to it  but you could always lessen the  risk  if you  properly  studied on it and  know the   fundamentals of it.  In the case of OP trading is not  actually  made for him because  it seems  that hes not profitable with it.

And I agree too, in trading you will lose on others coin but you may also gain on others. But,what I like is that you can minimized your looses if you are well informed and vigilant whats happening.For long term trading you must be very patient, where some are not used to it.

the majority of the people here don't have the patience to hold their coins for the long term. these people expect a certain amount of profits every one or two weeks. just look at how many people complain when the price keeps calm for a week or so. they directly shift their focus to other investment options.

That is right. That is the reason why most people are not rich. If you hold the bitcoin since 2010, you will be very rich.

i think i can not hold it since 2010 because i am always to get tempted when i saw the price going to increase and sell it some amount of my bitcoin. and yes, many people can not comfort to hold the coins while the price is going deep down, but there are people which still buy no matter the price is down and they just waited for next increase price.
Our needs in life will sometimes temp us to sell, actually the price now as you can see is great for bitcoin since it is increasing and I was just tempted to sell some of my holdings because also want to enjoy the profit of my investment, I need that money to celebrate with my family this weekend, but at least I have a purpose.

Those early adopters  does really have a  hard time   to keep all of those  coins  for  how  many years, as you mentioned there are really  situations  that  we would be tempted to   sold those  bitcoins on the current price. We would really be   tempted  when we saw the   price  which we could  see  already that we  gain how many times  on  our  investment but some could able  to persist it   or actually forget those  bitcoins.
9015  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin never arrived... please help! on: October 27, 2016, 12:43:29 PM
Thanks everyone to all the replies... I use the bitblender site to tumble my coins... I realized after looking again that the URL was changed to .com instead of onion... I knowat this point I was somehow hacked... I will always check the URL now.... I had the site bookmarked...and had been using it just fine for months... Lesson learned... Is there any way or chance of getting it back or is it totally lost now... Thanks
Ouch, that's gotta hurt man, how much did you lose if you don't mind me asking?
Unfortunally as the user above me said it 100% irravesable, sometimes if you send to the wrong address you could follow up with a very small "dust" transaction with a note attached explaining what happened but i don't think that will work with a scammer, they would just be happy that you actually sent them more coins. 

Best to now do a full scan on your computer and or phone and find out where things went wrong


I will quote this since bitkilo is right the only thing you can do is to do some researching on wich address you have sent your deposits and if it is the address of bitblender well you can contact their support regarding to that problem, so better listen to those advices and answer the questions properly so this issue will had a clear answer, we can't say that his money is totally lost untill its not proven to be sent by other outside addresses.

As he mentioned   previously  he  definitely send the   bitcoin  on a different  address  and supposed  to be   send  to  bitblender  but   he   log-in  into a  different website and   hes already late when  he  notice the   difference , thats why  theres  no  possibility  to get those  bitcoins  back  because  as we all know that bitcoin transaction are irreversible  and  as  bitkilo said  we  must be careful and  we  must  do  full scan  on  our pc or  mobile.
9016  Economy / Services / Re: Badly Need A Mini Job..Must See My Post All Brother. on: October 27, 2016, 09:08:20 AM
First say dont give me red feedback i lock this topic after 4 hours..l'm new in bitcointalk so i must be newbie for this reason i say that dont give me red feedback now come to the point i need a mini job at last pay me 1$ i need 1$ for investment but no one give me 1$ free for this reason i need a mini job...if any have a job for me please pm me...love bitcointalk stay with bitcointalk...

Hi there  pal,

No one  would  really give you  red trust as  long you  dont  do any foolishness on this forum like ( scam attempts,trolling,etc) . As  a new member , Welcome  to this forum. You could actually make  money  here more than  on the  amount that you mentioned. First of all , try  to visit beginners  section and  try to read first  all important information  regarding on this forum and what should  a newbie  must  learn. I cant give you  a link  but still you could  able to  use  the search bar Smiley  Goodluck
tnx for your intraduaction i'm new here but not for only sometime stay here i come here for a long time work brother and i'm happy to work with you and all brother in this froum.....


Well to get a proper micro task job you must post your skills and what job type do you prefer to do so people can see it clearly and maybe hire you to do it for them, but anyways its really hard to get that nowadays since there so many competition here in this furom and high ranks are more appealing to those worker finders, but for that if you do some extraordianry hardwork well possibly theirs people would surely get your serviced offer here, and goodluck for that, patience is virtue men.

Correct, you could actually  sell off  your skills  especially when  you  are good  on  technical skills  ,graphics, developing, programming and  other  skills related  to tech. For sure you would find  some  work  here and earn decent amounts  depend  on the  project you would made. As arwin mentioned its really hard  to compete here  in this  forum hence the competition here  is    high  and there are  lots  of  high rank  users  are  more reputable.
9017  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: October 27, 2016, 08:11:40 AM
I think it is simply to know whether a website is a fraud or trusted.those site which offer high interest for deposit are always fraud.generally fraud website register their domain for only 1 year. Or you can check their backup option,forum etc as mentioned by other users

Before you try to invest  on a certain website   be sure  to search first all informations   regarding to a  website, all find a review or   opinions  on a  certain website  because  with this way  you could somehow  know about   on the site legitimacy. If  you saw most negative feedbacks then dont  try to proceed.


You can't actually see the real score of a certain site if this is legit or not since theyre are so many refferal junkies and willing to risk your money just for the sake of their bunos, they will surely say good things about that site so you would be encourage to invest and turn out to be a scam victim later so for this not to be happen well we should not invest at any of those at this moment since anything can be wrong bad for just single minute for hyip sites.

There are   really people  out there whose  too hungry for referrals  and  would really try to  pursue  on convincing you  to join a  certain website and they say all good things about them and  the  goodness  when you  join and   thats why some  people would  really fall for that  believing  all those  sweet words from someone  but they really dont  know the  real  motive which is  getting   referral  bonus  when they   recruit someone. Thats their advantage  though and they  dont  care  about the  person  of being scammed  of that site.

But we can't do anything against them since its there choice to spread the scam site everywhere and we cannot put some bad tag on them since the spreading happened at social media sites, and i really believe that this kind of scheme will be hardnto.elimanate easily since there are so many frauds continuesly making some another just to scam people again.

We should really expect  that  this  kind  of  doings are  just  normal  for this  environment and we  cant do anything about  it   hence no matter  how we  stop it it would still  pop out  like  mushrooms  because  aiming for  money and  greediness  is still there and we cant get   it  from a  certain  individual thats why they  keep  pursuing to do  bad things  into other  people and  wont  mind anymore if they would   be  affected to much or  not as  long  they are making money  on that  way.
9018  Economy / Economics / Re: How many BTC will make you a fiat millionaire in 5 years? on: October 27, 2016, 07:12:09 AM
It would depend  on   which  country  would  you  live in and also  i do notice majority  of  voters  are  selecting  more bitcoin  because they will choose  more than  millions of dollars  on   next 5 years, we  wont  know on what will be the  price on that time  but   1k btc would surely  give you  enormous amounts that could able to make you  millionaire  even  on  local or  international  and   you would  live   the  life that youve never  been experience  before.
9019  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitfinex Seeks Communication With Bitcoin Thief on: October 27, 2016, 06:57:25 AM
Most likely it was just another inside job masked as an unfortunate security breach. How surprising eh?  Grin
And why would the hacker communicate with them? To get a prison sentence and a nice bunk bed with some sketchy inmate? They are probably off the grid already and all the money is laundered and funneled in offshore accounts overseas.

Yes an inside job is more likely here. Whether or not the owners were in on the hack is the main question. Maybe one of their top employees knew the ins and outs of how Bitfinex secures the Bitcoins and found a way to get access to them. Maybe the hacker may even be someone from inside BitGo, the wallet provider by Bitfinex.

Im thinking the same thing too,  its  very  impossible  for an exchange to be hacked so easily which  they  have already  the  most  secure   in terms  of  holding  huge volumes  of  bitcoin. They are  already  aware    on such situations  that  might  happen  but there are really greedy people would  really intent  to   get those  huge amounts and  as we all know that already reach millions of dollars and would surely  be tempted to put   a  mission  even  to those  staffs  itself. Just  my speculation.
9020  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin is a good investment now, because... on: October 27, 2016, 05:35:22 AM
yeah bitcoin really very good investment for now because bitcoin price is very stable and good to buy and there is a huge number of people are going to increase its price too much faster in the near future and i hope we will be get a good profit from bitcoin .
Yes, investment Bitcoin has the advantage or plus ease of walking. bitcoin investment is quite easy because it can be done remotely (online) on every investor is located. Only by turning on a computer or smartphone and Internet network, it is ready to carry out this investment. The investment value is very easily stored in the device's hard drive used. bitcoin investment may be very good for saving the future I think. Smiley

Thats   real beauty  of  investing  into bitcoin and  besides  to all things you mentioned   we could   invest bitcoin  no matter  how  small it is   unlike to other  investments  like  gold and stocks  which would really need  huge amounts   to invest with.  Also that  bitcoin could able to access  easily  unlike any other and also  you  have   all the access and  security  on your  money.  Bitcoin is  really a good  investment  on  future but   we should  not   really  fully  rely with it.
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