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8881  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How work Fibonacci strategy? on: November 23, 2016, 01:05:53 PM
How work Fibonacci strategy?

Who really use it and make profit?
Fibonacci numbers are most useful in trading to predict the next possible range of market movements. But I am not exact aware of any strategy using this series of numbers in gambling.

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Start at the beginning of the sequence and every time you lose a bet, move one number to the right. Whenever you win a bet, start again at the beginning of a sequence.
Google showed this. Sounds similar to martingale.

Related youtube video on 'Fibonacci Betting System Explained' : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZyVEe1ORTE

Thanks for the youtube link for the explanation. I am also looking for this strategy as I used the binary style, when I bet keep on doubling Smiley some times I lost, and not a good one in the long run.  Grin
In doing binary trading doing martingale doesnt work anytime and you must have a big bankroll or a big account  that could able to withstand 7-10 levels then its possible  to cope up with  loss and make profits with this strategy but its really better to follow the trend and use only martingale if lose but when you are on a trend usually max lose is only 2-3x which is okay. Thanks for the link too its really useful for me.
8882  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Ups and Downs ! on: November 23, 2016, 09:18:29 AM
What do you think about the ups and downs of the currency Bitcoin ?
Whether it's an advantage or a disadvantage?

No disadvantages here, only profit chances. A good thing about bitcoin is the price going up and down all day long.
Traders can make more profit along the day, just buying and selling btcs. Good method to earn more and more with this currency. And in the end of the day we don't need to worry, because we know the btc price never will go down a lot, we have the sure this coin won't die.
You're right, maybe only a few people who would accept the loss of this rare occurrence. But, although the possibility of losing is very small, we still must be careful in trade.
Losing on trading possibility is not actually small because if you dont have enough knowledge on trading it for sure you will lose some of your money specially we are now on increasing price state.If you buy on a low price then the price shoots up then you will surely wait for long time if bitcoins price will go drop again. Trading really needs knowledge on when you will buy and sell and it really needs some analysis.
8883  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: November 23, 2016, 05:05:07 AM
I remember being playing some slot of bejeweled, and i were able to get something like 15 euros bonus, i had deposited 20 euros and i wente to 38 euros, but i were a greedy person i tryed to achieve big value with those, the result were i ended all, next week i had deposited 50 euros and lost 25 euros on the same game and after the loss i stopped gamble.
good thing you realize mate i think every one of us only realized much bigger loss when it played with greedy thinking if we always wanted to win big and if we always wanted to chase and regain our loses its not good and its a big mistake for sure it will ended up losing more and more.
yeah the biggest mistake that most people did is to keep chasing the past lost
everyone will ended up losing if they keep repeating it
self control needed in this case as losing control causing you keep do chasing
remember always to gamble to get entertain so there will be no more a mistake like that.
Chasing always your past lost is really an bad idea because greediness and hopes will surely come out and its really hard to control it when it tries to overcome you. Self control will really the best thing to stop this kind of feeling because if you let this thing to control you then expect more lose in the long run and you will surely regret that thing when you  realize that you dont have money left in your pocket.
8884  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is GAMBLING? on: November 22, 2016, 12:32:30 PM
I want ask mostly people are saying in Gambling we loss everything, but they are still playing gambling.
WHY?
Then people saying that it is Game and fun so we are playing.
I want ask you, Is it Game so you are playing, otherwise what is Gambling?
1. GAME
2. INVESTMENT
3. BUSINESS  

Gambling is  also a game which is  included  on your  options but there are other games which doesnt involve money though like  playing on sports games and all types which no money is being risked and also business and investment are still the same too which you are putting up money and make it grow so that you will gain profits in the future or in the long run. I will definitely choose these things rather than focusing on gambling because we all know chances of  lossing money in gambling is high.
8885  Economy / Services / Re: Byteball Signature Campaign(Under new management) on: November 22, 2016, 02:24:10 AM
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8886  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Good online-cloud mining on: November 21, 2016, 09:58:59 AM
Hi!

I am new, an i am looking for good online/cloud mining websites. Where you can Mine BTC online.

You know any good Sites?

Rather don't there are far too many scams around and you will lose all your investment. Rather invest in altcoins  or something similar.
Spread the money out never all in one investment.

But you should make sure that the altcoin you are investing at is a good coin wich have great vision for more upcoming project and updates, since some of coins are just made to scam or for manipulation purposes, and we just crashed out the thoughs and money maker thinking on cloudminings since as for now they would never be profitable again and not in the future, it is talk and figured out as scam for so many times and people should listen to this for their own safety.

Previously  i observed  that ICO are  legit ones  because   they totally  launched a   good altcoin  on  earlier  years  but  there are really people  who want to scam  people  thats why they  make the advantage  to  make a coin and  launch  an ICO  and when  the  amount  fund  is already enough some  deves would tend to run and some  when  a coin launches  they  just  dump it right away which is  really devestating and  would really lose  up money.
8887  Economy / Services / Re: [BetKing] Signature Campaign | Fixed rates | Full Member - Legendary (Open) on: November 21, 2016, 08:28:16 AM
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8888  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitminer.io real or scam? on: November 20, 2016, 05:21:30 AM
I have good experience with this service. I have used it for a while. The upgrades make sense and are well priced as well as affordable for less wealthy people, too. However, I advise you to consider the opinions above me. Probably, I was just lucky in the past and I do not use the service anymore.

You must have been lucky if you received any payout from them. This normally happens to the first people to use any scam service. Once the scammers feel they have accumulated enough, they stop paying and disappear with peoples money. I tired their free service but so far I have pending withdrawals for more than two months.

You could able to withdraw  the  earnings  if you deposit  on their site. I could say that   joining  this  kind of  cloudmining  sites  are  just  pure  hyip  which  they gone  if they get enough  money  from their members. There are still some  people  who make profits  especially to those  who  join  on earlier  times  when  it was  just  launching. Investing  money on this sites  is too risky  because the chance of  losing  money  is high.
8889  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BTC to ETH ? on: November 20, 2016, 04:17:51 AM
Hi there
As the price of Ethereum is falling , which one is more profitable in the near future? Changing Eth to Btc or vice versa?
Thanks

Price of  altcoins  would definitely goes down if bitcoins  price  will pump. You can really  look at the  chart   of  a certain altcoin and bitcoin. If  i were  you,  choose  Bitcoin as   a primary  and  no altcoin  could  even   surpass bitcoin  in any way. Better to  save  bitcoin as  much as you want  rather  than ETH but  you could  always   make it as an  alternative  but  dont  focus  up too much. If you have  lots of ETH  better to  hold  it  and  focus to bitcoin.
8890  Economy / Economics / Re: Can you really make money on Forex? on: November 20, 2016, 03:23:18 AM
Altcoin trade is considered as forex too?

I think that to make money with trades is required a lot of study, none newbie can do this, maybe you can have lucky on the first month or more but if you don't know exactly what are you doing, you will lose all your money. Nothing comes easy, knowledge is everything.
Yes you right knowledge is everything. I have an oppinion, I think trading cryptocurrency and trading forex is different. In forex there are technical term called margin call, pip and etc. But in cryptocurrency trading we only have two technical term called buy and sell. Peiple can make money in forex,  I am agree with your statement that need study to do trading forex,  if someone do this without knowledge it's just the same with gambling.
Trading forex and altcoins is different but there are a lot of similarities at the end it does not matter what you are trading since we, the people are the ones doing the trades, so the same patterns that appear in forex, bonds commodities should appear in the altcoin markets.

They are really different  even though  they are the same  on trading field.  Crypto currency   volatility is   really different compared to currency and stocks price  volatility. Forex  is do really hard  to learn and  it would  really takes  years  to be profitable  with it and also   it do requires  big  amount of capital  unlike on altcoins which  you could able to trade on small amounts.
8891  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Effects of Banning Bitcoin ? on: November 20, 2016, 03:00:45 AM
although banned in some countries I think bitcoin will still be used. because users bitcoin is anonymouse. so it is difficult to restrict the use of bitcoin. we are all free to use bitcoin, because bitcoin does not have a centralized system. we are all free to do various transactions that we want.

I can't totally agree with you dude, when government really banned bitcoin and prohibited everyone use bitcoin. You potentially cab not use it at all. Because the government have an authority to ban where the bitcoin transactions is doing, they ban that site for access in the whole of country. So may be you can not use bitcoin. The government may be also use another actions more than that.

You could still able to access  sites  which  you do  have  bitcoins  transactions by  using  VPN and Tor  websites. Even they  banned  bitcoin site  on a particular country  but still  it cant  stop totally  bitcoin  users   to access it. No matter  how  hard  the government  would implement such rules  i think  it would be  useless because   for sure   underground  transactions   would be  really made.
8892  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: For what was Bitcoin created? on: November 19, 2016, 05:51:57 PM
I think bitcoin was created so that we can have an alternative and better kind of currency. You can avoid getting taxed when you're using bitcoin. It's fast and reliable too. You can easily send money abroad with just a few clicks. Bitcoin is decentralized and that just means that a part of bitcoin is meant to do the opposite of what the government does. Today, bitcoin is an investment for most and an opportunity to earn money online.
bitcoin is suitable to be used as a means of transaction. maybe the purpose of making bitcoin is that the internet has a transaction tool that quickly and reliably. bitcoin is currently actually used as currency on the internet, other than that bitcoin has also evolved into a business tool, so now many companies that need workers who are paid using bitcoin. well, so I think bitcoin made to facilitate people - people to conduct transactions on the Internet

Adoption do rapidly increased because bitcoin features is very useful to people that's why they got easily adopted into it. Money transfers is the main thing why bitcoin is being created, as you can read on Satoshi white paper ,not only that, bitcoin project do already reach or gain extent adoption because there are already merchants do offer and accept bitcoin as a payment.
8893  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Ups and Downs ! on: November 19, 2016, 05:20:42 PM
Ups (pumps) = Good to sell part of your bitcoin to have some cash in hands to buy cheap bitcoin on dumps
Downs (dumps) = Good opportunity to buy cheap bitcoins using all fiat you have or half of fiat.

If you are looking for long term holding, don't look at short term ups and downs just relax with your bitcoin in safe place and keep an eye on bitcoin markets.

The advantage of Ups and Downs (swing) in bitcoin price is opportunity of profit it create for day traders.

This is an accurate answer to op's question, this is what I'm thinking too hence you already mentioned I won't repeat it again. Moving prices of bitcoin is not a shocking news as long there are players on the market then it would definitely move. Just as mentioned be prepared on when to sell or when to buy because opportunities might happen on an instant. If you'd like to make profits then you should be attentive on bitcoin price movement.
8894  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How to make 1 bitcoin in a month or 2? on: November 19, 2016, 04:58:14 PM
Hi, I am looking for a way to earn some money without invest(because I am broke), I can dedicate 2 hours a day in that. what can I do to make a bitcoin per month without any investment?

The best way is to try freelancing jobs but it depends on what skill you have/What you can do.
Here are some sites you can try, They pay bitcoin.

1. https://www.xbtfreelancer.com
2). /r/Jobs4bitcoin  (Reddit)
3). https://coinality.com

Or you can try on upwork or fiverr.  They also have simple jobs.

Some advice, Your two hours a day is not enough to make a 1 bitcoin in just 2-3 months.

It is much better to just focus on your job than freelancing on some sites.  Because you can just buy some bitcoins using your salary and keep it for investment.



I really doubt that any people can make 1-2 bitcoins with freelancer, well you can do it in a month but every month earning the same it's hard because it depend of the projects that are avaiable, plus the client have to select you between a lot of people.

Much more easy to have a normal job and if you want to invest in bitcoin, just buy some coins at the end of the month.


Actually freelancers can earn huge money from different ventures online, and they can actually get many clients as they want if they have more skill and can do various task, and the more the clients the more money they can get and surely 2 btc well be reached by them in months or even more, and think for it decent job cannot pay us 2btc monthly and thats whynits better to have an alternatives to gain more money and to have savings to be used on emergency situations or in various needs.

I really don't think it's simple like that, otherwhise people that live in 3rd world countries will be working a lot in freelances since 2 btc is a lot of money in those countries like a year minimum wage Wink

Have a lot of competition with this jobs, it's hard to get clients. Maybe few people can do it, the rest will get nothing.
Well you are right, due the fact there are several developers fighting to get the job, i had hired a person to make something for me, and he hasnt any work before me, i had advised others to work with him, nowadays he is very requested, but he said he were something like 3 months searching for a work. Normal people without skill will try very hard to achieve those, but will only be able to reach those if they risk their bitcoins with forex, trading altcoins as well sport betting.

Well competition is always present when we are talking about freelancing works and also people or client would really choose the most reputable ones with enough experience that's why for those new into this field for sure they would really have a hard time of being selected. Alternatives Is always there though all you need is to search and find the way could able to earn you bitcoin. As you suggested it's really possible to achieve by doing trading and other good investments.
8895  Economy / Services / Re: [Crypto-News.net] ★ Signature Campaign ★ | Senior - Legendary [OPEN] on: November 19, 2016, 03:30:22 PM
Considering that the manager is a "Newbie" I would advise all users to wait until deposit will be escrowed.

It is always better to be cautious.

Cant you read  the confirmation of  DogecoinMachine above?  which  he actually said  that Crypto-news is  under his control? Or you didnt  read that? Smiley
Sorry  OP for off topic  post,  just want  to answer  regarding  on  escrow issues that he  state.
CryptoGames and CryptoNews are one, they already  running  for  more than  year which  they pay on time and no delays. There  no need  to escrow  hence they are already gained trust on this forum.
8896  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is there new people coming to Bitcoin? on: November 19, 2016, 01:47:24 PM
I disagree with all the people saying no in here, I would say that the majority of people don't get into Bitcoin steadily over time, it happens with events in the real world. For example, there was a large spike in Bitcoin users when India announced the discontinuation of 2 of their bank notes.
In your opinion, if the people was getting into the bitcoin. If happen something is big in their environment? And bitcoin has become any backup for them? I may think if this has little chance, although there was no the clear answer about this. No one can calculate about the definite answer for this question. I thought if the steady adoption is there, although if it is just one person for a day.
yes the real number of bitcoin users cannot be calculated, the official authorities may know about the actual number of bitcoin users, but if we just examine our surrounding we can also avaluate the fact about the number of bitcoin for example in my ares when i started using bitcoin, i think therefore just a few number of bitcoin users at that time but  now as i also introduced bitcoin to my friends and other who knew a about bitcoin may also have introduced bitcoin to other people therefore the number of bitcoin users in my area are so much increase as compare to the previous number of bitcoin users.

Theres  no  really accurate  number   on this  because  adoption is  on progress  and  it  do  happen  all  over  the world on  any places. It may  rise  without our  notice.
In my own perspective  there are really  new  people  who  do engage to bitcoin  because its  a good  crypto currency and people would   really see  it   and for sure they would engage to it.  Same as yours bitcoin  appearance  is already  spreading  into my place.
8897  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much time to 30 losses on a roll on: November 19, 2016, 10:25:31 AM
I'm looking for details about your experiences on Hi-Lo game. How long you already went into this game? Did you get many losses on a roll? More than 30? The chance to this happen is 1 in millions, but in casinos it can happen more frequently, no?  Wink

30 losses in a row sounds a little bit weird! I never experience this unlucky, but if you look the probability is not impossible, and even every roll is "not related" to other ones, so the result couldn't be affected !

It would really be weird   if you do  have 2x multiplier  and experience  losing  streaks  which is  really devastating   but   you will definitely experience  that  directly if   you  will increase the  multiplier. Just  the same  on other members said here on earlier  post   it does  really matter on which  multiplier did you set it on.  The higher  it is the  higher the possibilities of  long  losing streak that will definitely wrecked you.

The result of every roll is not influenced by the last one.
If you flip a coin, and get head there isn't anything that could lead to another head (or a cross).
In theory you an get every time head and the coin is not a fake one Wink

Theres no connection between  on flip a coin and betting  on a  dice site.  On  online  gambling especially  on dice, results  would somehow  do have simmilarities  especially  when the  multiplier  is  big,  you could really assume  that  results   would be  like that which  is  lossing  streaks. We are  not talking  flip a coin here.
Well its your  own view, i do respect that.
8898  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much does it cost to create a btc gambling site? on: November 19, 2016, 06:09:15 AM
How much does it cost to build and maintain a website like primedice (for example)?

Hosting,programming,design and advertising costs?

I have an idea about a brand new bitcoin gambling game which will be completely different than the dice sites,

but i don`t know from where to start.

I don`t know if this is the right place to ask,but can anyone answer?
I think 300BTC are enough here we go for details:
1. Hosting cost: about 50 bitcoins maybe it is too high cost but you must make sure the website is not down while there are many users who visit it.
2. Programming and design cost: 50 bitcoin you must be looking for people who can do programming and design with one.
3. Promotion cost: 100 bitcoin in my opinion the most much take out the gambling is for promotion.

These  partitions are too much  in  my own  opinion. 50 btc on  hosting  cost  is overkill  hence you could  able to make a  website with  good security  which really  cost less  compare  to that said amount and also 50  bitcoins is  too much  for   a website design and also 100 bitcoin  for  promotion  is  overkill Smiley Just want to ask  if   how much would  you  put  in your bankroll? Because  you didnt mention  it.
8899  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price hits $100 000 in 2017 on: November 18, 2016, 05:49:54 PM
Let's say something happens in 2017 and Bitcoin's price per bitcoin reach $100 000 per bitcoin, what would you do first? I know most people

would sell at that price, but who would do the buying? Security will have to be your first concern, because at that price... Bitcoin will garner a

lot of attention from hackers and scammers.

Would Bitcoin reach a price, where it is simply not economically viable to buy it... { even if you buy only a few Satoshi's }

A lot of people {those who did not do their research} seem to think, bitcoins can only be bought as a whole unit.. 1 bitcoin at a time. I think,

as the price rise, we should emphasize the fact that you can buy fractions of a bitcoin. Some of my friends thought you can only buy whole

bitcoins, and they only started buying, when I explained it to them. We have our work cut out for us, when Bitcoin reach higher price

brackets.  Grin


$100k price per  bitcoin is  not  possible for  year 2017 and  even  into those  upcoming years  i dont  think so  that  it would reach that  peak amount.  Adoption  would  really be needed  in able to reach  that. Good for you that   youd able to convince your friends  to engage on bitcoin and  there are really people  especially to those  have  no idea  on bitcoin  thinking that they must  buy 1 whole  bitcoin.
8900  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Putting money in lottery is gambling too? on: November 18, 2016, 05:12:19 PM
Thats  what  im thinking too  on  why  people  keep  on  betting  on this  kind  of game  which fully rely   their  fate  on it. They  keep  betting and  buying lottery tickets  even they  do have difficulties  on   financial  state.  If you are a wise and a practical person  you should  really  not let yourself  to get  involved  with this because you will surely  lost  most  of your  money  i dont  mind of getting  millionaire in  an instant . Better to save than to gamble which  you  know  that  chances  is very small.
I just buy lottery tickets when I have an extra money only, sometimes I place my numbers with my instinct. Winning in this kind of game depends on luck like dice games, I don't expect to win. I just pray and let miracle happen, yeah it sounds weird.  Grin If it is really meant for you then you'll have it.
People do  really differ on their  beliefs  and also  to their  interest  and  aim which isnt bad at all as  long you dont compromise  your  money too much  on  buying  lottery tickets then  its  should be  fine. People  would really hope to win  in  lottery because its  just  once in a  lifetime  opportunity  to become  rich  in an instant  and i  agree with you  if that  money  is really meant for you then  it would be  given to you.
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