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921  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs on: May 18, 2016, 02:41:41 PM

Surely all someone has to do is come up with a way to build a ASIC miner packaged multi gpu box. i.e. buy the GPU's and mount multiples of them on boards like many of the current multi-small-asic miners (antminer, avalon, etc) clock them low enough to be kept cool by heatsinks and large fan combos and you are back in the mining race.

Yes it depends on being able to get raw gpu cores from AMD or whoever, or develop their own programmable asic but given the right incentives (money) someone will come up with a method of concentrating the crunching power into "boxes".


Maybe.  Here is what I have been looking at from an economic viewpoint.

 AMD and Nvidia  are bigger by far then any asic company.
 They have a vested interest in finding ways to market GPU's.
 Eth coin is responsible for about 100,000 r9 390's in hash power  24/7/365
 When you breakdown that 100,000 number   we all know that some gamers will mine while they sleep and turn the mining off while they game.
 Also some mine with r9 380's  so Eth coin has driven far more sales then  100,000 r9's
 So both Nvidia and AMD   can prop up Eth coin as an advertising cost.
 Asrock builds a gpu mining board so  they can prop up Eth coin as an advertising cost.
 Intel sells cpus they can prop up eth coin as an advertising cost
 Amd sell cpus   they can prop up eth coin as an advertising cost.


All of the above companies have zero interest or gain from asic chips.

So from an economical viewpoint   GPU mining is going to stick around.

I see huge issues for Asic companies down the road. 

A simple this ' tape will self destruct ' method for Eth coin.  Ie turn it into a pos only coin once an asic builder makes a chip to mine it.

We already have  Eth coin 2 in place with a new algorithm  to fend off asics.  You can keep your Eth 1 coin as pos or convert it to Eth 2 coin as pow


  If I was an asic company  I would be shitting myself as this could mean death to asic mining.

Note bitmaintech now has come out with a s-7 lite version in my opinion due to eth coin explosion.

You sort of missed the point, my bad I didn't explain it well.

Sure with ASIC resistant coins such as ETH with their willingness to modify and prevent a fixed function processor being able to crunch the algo getting an box with a bunch of ASIC boards in it isn't going to be a success and ends up in the same situation BTC is now.

However, and remember a the term GPU mining is a bit of a misnomer, it really is Graphics card mining. Yes the GFX card does contain the GPU, just like a PC contains a CPU and a Bitcoin Miner contains ASIC's, but a GFX card also has a lot of stuff on it that isn't needed on a miner.

The point I was making was that its possible given the right set of circumstances and money for someone to purchase the GPU cores directly from the manufacturer (NV/AMD/IMG/INTEL/etc) in large numbers and instead of mounting them one or two on a GFX card board, designs a board and transport which houses 10/20/30 GPU cores on the board, just like a ASIC miner design does. Yes its not easy, yes you need memory and other stuff that the GPU cores need to access, but its not impossible if the market is there.

You won't get up to the TH level in a single box doing it this way, but you could get up to multi MH and maybe low GH in a single box. The technology may or may not be worth investing and building but it would be an interesting extension to just buying GFX cards and being limited by the PC form factor and motherboard designs.
922  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs on: May 17, 2016, 01:10:42 PM
Just as an idle conjecture, wouldn't bitcoin prices have to be significantly higher to maintain a network which was primarily gpu based, and therefore less energy efficient ?

BTC is going to die due to Asic's and Chinese Asic building tactics combine with self-mining.

I am in my late 50's and have seen a lot of patterns of commerce unfold.

Eth coin with a deadman's switch to pos  has a better take on the game then BTC.

BTC is all about power cost... Due  Chinese builder's of  asic chips and not spreading them through out the world.

   So as a developer  that likes the general idea of crypto coins  how do a pull a David on Goliath?

  I make Eth coin to be followed by  Eth 2 new algorithm coin.  Thus the general ability of the GPU to mine endless algorithms  bitche slaps all asic builders with dirt cheap power that practice self mining tactics.

China will still be able to mine cheaply with gpus ,but they won't have as much control over the distribution of them.


Asic building may die or They will be forced to adapt.  By simply allowing chip sales out of their country so developers can make gear suited to the smaller low power guy.  I know of 1800 senior citizen home in developments that us electric baseboard radiators  all of them would be perfect for an s-3 type unit with a built in psu.  That takes the hash out of big ass farms that are wasting the heat by not using it.

At finksy there are at  least 100,000 gpus if they were r9 390's mining 24/7/365 mining eth coin certainly enough to catch the attention of Nvidia and AMD. Since it is more then likely  it is 300,000 gpus mining some of the time.  A gamer now buys the r9 390 and lets it mine while he sleeps.  So in a few months his r9 390 only cost him ½ the price.

They will see pushing a new coin after Eth as an advertising cost.  

Surely all someone has to do is come up with a way to build a ASIC miner packaged multi gpu box. i.e. buy the GPU's and mount multiples of them on boards like many of the current multi-small-asic miners (antminer, avalon, etc) clock them low enough to be kept cool by heatsinks and large fan combos and you are back in the mining race.

Yes it depends on being able to get raw gpu cores from AMD or whoever, or develop their own programmable asic but given the right incentives (money) someone will come up with a method of concentrating the crunching power into "boxes".
923  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [lee group]1150$! The group buy of hosted bitmain S7 @4.73T online on 27th Jan!! on: May 13, 2016, 07:57:10 PM
3 down here for past 7 hours. Interestingly 2 are still up so must be a certain part of the datacenter that is impacted, probably a breaker.
924  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 1% fee solo mining USA/DE servers 178 blocks solved! on: May 12, 2016, 12:39:31 PM
Hello
How many minimum wait block at 180 GH/S ?

53647 days



And miracles happen?

Well its all luck, so it could happen on the first day or the 53647'th day or any day in between.

Its also a moving target, the longer you wait the higher the odds.
925  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 1% fee solo mining USA/DE servers 178 blocks solved! on: May 12, 2016, 08:38:08 AM
Hello
How many minimum wait block at 180 GH/S ?

53647 days
926  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Solo pools for old hardware - on: May 05, 2016, 08:44:39 AM
Thanks, Jacob - I've been doing linux for a long time and have come to trust code developers (like kano).  

Just in case you missed it kano pool is based on ckpool code, both he and -ck work on different parts of the kano pool software, -ck does the pool code and kano writes the web and database AFAIK:

CKPool software developed and supported by ckolivas and myself (Kano)
927  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [30 PH] ** 5x AVALON6 GIVEAWAY ** Kano CKPool (kano.is) [0.9% PPLNS] US,DE,SG on: April 28, 2016, 09:11:25 AM
Boom! Block number 6 for me.  Grin

yeah I saw that one.  was it on an avalon?

Nah was a lee hosted S7

My 2 avalons are mining off a single controller as one miner on the pool. Smiley
928  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [30 PH] ** 5x AVALON6 GIVEAWAY ** Kano CKPool (kano.is) [0.9% PPLNS] US,DE,SG on: April 27, 2016, 04:57:57 PM
Boom! Block number 6 for me.  Grin
929  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] Spondoolies SP20E on: April 14, 2016, 04:18:45 PM
Sold at asking. Sorry chaps, to low, too slow  Tongue
930  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] Spondoolies SP20E on: April 14, 2016, 10:17:42 AM
Which, after shipping costs, would make the miner effectively free.

I'll counter with 0.29BTC (starving kids, 4 wives etc)
931  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] Spondoolies SP20 x 2 on: April 13, 2016, 11:17:52 PM
2 x Spondoolies SP20 (just miners no PSU)
1 x Spondoolies SP20 (just miner, no PSU)
Working 100%
Free shipping in EU/UK (pm for international shipping cost)
Boxed in original packaging
0.3BTC

Escrow via Ognasty if you want.

One sold, one left.
932  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [lee group]1150$! The group buy of hosted bitmain S7 @4.73T online on 27th Jan!! on: April 13, 2016, 11:08:40 PM
Li what is otc market?

Bitcoin Trading market

OTC = Over-the-Counter
933  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [lee group]1150$! The group buy of hosted bitmain S7 @4.73T online on 27th Jan!! on: April 11, 2016, 11:11:35 AM
Back online now
934  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [30 PH] ** 5x AVALON6 GIVEAWAY ** Kano CKPool (kano.is) [0.9% PPLNS] US,DE,SG on: April 03, 2016, 09:19:25 AM
Anyone who noticed?
There was an unplanned ckdb restart 45min ago (08:08 UTC)
No miners were affected as usual.
Just the web site with lots of '?' during the restart.

I was out at the time and alarms went off - ckdb restart was required to resolve it.
All OK again since 08:25 UTC

Only noticed because the API went down.
935  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 1% fee solo mining USA/DE servers 163 blocks solved! on: April 01, 2016, 06:24:28 PM
Dear users 4everBTC, Biffa and scottlawry, you are all trying to use regular usernames on this pool which will not work. You MUST use a uᴉoɔʇᴉq address as your username.

I take it this is still happening?
Yes it is, and in addition there are also now users mineruS7 and b0411d0427f9 being repeatedly denied access.

Should be fixed, if not can you pm me the full miner names?
936  Economy / Computer hardware / [WTS] Spondoolies SP20E on: April 01, 2016, 01:36:27 AM
2 x Spondoolies SP20 (just miners no PSU) - SOLD
Working 100%
Free shipping in EU/UK (pm for international shipping cost)
Boxed in original packaging


Escrow via Ognasty if you want.
937  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 1% fee solo mining USA/DE servers 163 blocks solved! on: April 01, 2016, 12:19:24 AM
Dear users 4everBTC, Biffa and scottlawry, you are all trying to use regular usernames on this pool which will not work. You MUST use a bitcoin address as your username.

I take it this is still happening?
938  Economy / Computer hardware / [WTS] SP35 PSU's on: March 31, 2016, 11:22:03 AM
I have two SP35 PSU's for sale.

0.4 BTC each ONO

Free shipping to UK/EU

Contact me for shipping costs to rest of world.

Handy if you have a need to replace the hard to find and expensive Artesyn DS1600SPE-3 which are about $400 to buy new. Or if you have a load of Spondoolies kit and need some spares just in case.

Both PSU's come up with green lights when powered on, the machine they are in has a blown IC on the circuit board so doesn't hash.
939  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] Spondoolies SP35 [US] - will ship worldwide on: March 24, 2016, 07:58:25 PM
Price drop!

Last chance, it'll be gone tomorrow.

Sold for 1.5BTC
940  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] Spondoolies SP35 [US] - will ship worldwide on: March 24, 2016, 12:13:34 AM
Price drop!

Last chance, it'll be gone tomorrow.
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