the science/medical side have been very good. but boris is playing juggling balls with the SAGE in one ear and the treasury in the other ear. and he leans more so to the treasury every time

school teachers union. yep teachers themselves that are frontline handling the kids and know best. have been saying keep the schools closed. but boris wanted to open them so kids can go school and parents can go work.
all because he doesnt want to pay out furlough payments.
kids actually learn more googling topics rather than the lengthy old-school teaching methods.
but now sage has made him realise theres too much hospital occupancy thus a lockdown is needed where parents should stay home. obviously they can take care of the kids so he reactively backs down from the keep schools open option

the new strain is of statistical interest. but over all covid only spreads by HUMAN choice to mingle and congregate. there is more evidence that people are ignoring the social distance advice. aswell as the human choices of letting school kids mingle. and shops stay open where people dont keep 2metres in the aisles

the new strain is good for track and trace because they can see how it moves around the country to look at ways of spread via car/train to different counties. but the method of spread is actually human decision
EG they seen it came from spain then wales then london. then expanded alot in london then went everywhere else, showing that it was the welsh having sunny holidays in spain during summer that imported a different strain than what was going around uk in 2019. (shoulda not allowed foreign flights)

becasue the stuff you say has no merit or valid point. so i quickly address the crucial issue of your point to debunk it then i go into the deeper detail surrounding the point that really shows how lame the point is.

such as tvbcof saying vaers only 1% report. i explain the math. i also explain while tvbcof shows 172 pages. those are not 20 patients per page but more like 2. and of the reports alot of them are snowflake whining stuff.

i also address tvbcofs other posts to summarise it all. like how he thinks that (although its been made clear that people will suffer some mild symptoms and thats been made clear all along). he pretends that vaccines have been promoted as 0 symptom just so that he can run a narrative that he found some symptoms.
so i just highlight some of the publicly known symptoms that are widely known to stop his narrative path before he rabbit holes it

then i go and double down and mention what i would deem as true unwanted adverse reactions. just incase. because these too are public knowledge and never been hidden. just so tvbcof cant twist his narative further.

anyway. US has had 4.2m+ that had the vaccine and unless there is say 2% (or your belief of 0.2% covid deaths) death rate in 4 weeks from infection/vaccination. as a comparison.. then the vaccine is better then the virus

so more than 8.2k deaths due to vaccine will make the vaccine worse then the virus.. lets just see

england too
i think its needed if you look at how many are going into hospital. the hospital system is starting to max out. issues with procuring oxygen tanks.

personally i think with the 9 months of covid the government had plenty of time to retrofit triple capacity oxygen storage and also sort out excess supply to pre-empt all this. aswell as sorting out the nightingale temp hospitals with more resource than just ventilators as covid is not just a oxygen deprivation thing. it requires multiple treatments for multiple organs and the nightingales should have been fitted with everthing

trump is going so deep into crazy land and also spending all the RNC funding that he is becoming a republican problem not an asset. im sure to see many republicans back away from being friendly with trump soon.

you were the one saying she didnt go back to work and instead died.
and yet she wrote she went back to work. so its you thats confused.
also again to sort out your confusion she cant write a facebook post while dead. so the ability to write a facebook post shows she was alive

anyway moving on

just reading the first few pages and theres about 1-2 patients per page. so on that record. thats 246 patients.
looking at some of the complaints. its laughable.

but hey if tvbcof does want to exaggerate that vaers only notes 1% of adverse reactions. then ill play his game of 24600 adverse reactions out of more then 4.2mill
so thats still less than 1% reaction rate. even at tvbcofs miscalculation of reporting rate

if tvbcof exaggerated further and said only 0.5% are reported then that would still only be a 1% reaction rate.

but if you read the reactions people had you can still dismiss alot as just crybaby syndrome(snowflake whiners)

so heres some news folks
a vaccine involves a needle so yes expect some arm tenderness pain. doesnt matter what your injected with. needles can still hurt.
a vaccine triggers your immune response so expect immune response. fever/sweats/chills/fatigue. this is normal its showing your body is doing something. as is a mild rash on arm

true adverse effects no one wants but should be looked at are:
anything that lasts more than 3 days
anything that causes breathing or heartrate changes.
dizzyness/feeling weak
headaches(as painful as migraines)
fainting/seizures

this is not new stuff. this is stuff that occurs with may things. the key is that if these persist for 3 days then treat it as an unexpected factor.
the main factor of the adverse reactions are people hypsensitive to allergens

but even with all this advice that has always been public and noted since the beginning. the amount of people suffering from these things is like <1%

she wrote a facebook post after death, first hand. wow thats a new skill
.. or she is alive and well and back at work

she admitted she had many allergies. (first facepalm)
she admitted the hospital she had the jab. was where she also worked and yet she admit they did not follow the advice of the vaccine administration nor the CDC after care/monitoring

she did not have stevens-johnsons. of if she did a very mild (normal rash) not the stuff tvbcofs duckduckgo image search shows
she was back to work in days

do you suffer from a broken finger due to lack of ability to click links
do you suffer from vision damage due to lack of being able to read
do you suffer from mental issues due to not being able to understand/learn/think/remember

the facts are available and the reports are clear. your inablilty to learn/read/check/understand/remember are not the worlds problems. they are your problems

the rest of the world know covid is real. so maybe time you try that little bit harder to learn and a lot less trying to ignore.

incase you do suffer from a sore finger. ill save you a few clicks and scrolls.
in the mouse reports(fourth link in my previous post) it explains all the methodologies of passing koch,rivers and bell. and it also describes where they got the covid isolate from
https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2001017
this then explains how they got the isolate from humans. and yes as you have already played games months ago on this very topic. yes it dues include centrifuges as part of the process

which part were lies?
points she states:
advert:
1. that adverse reactions can be coincidence, error in the administration of the vaccine or rare a problem with the vaccine itself
.. all true. all 3 categories are correct

2. robust safety systems. examine the problem and the data nd promptly address the problem
.. all true.

3. communication with many countries
true
..
summit:
1. dis communication with some countries
true. never said there was perfect communication with ALL countries.

2. risk is always there with vaccines and medicines
true. hense the need to monitor this stuff.

some vaccines are made in countries that are not tied to or linked to un/who/other international groups. and so the international groups cant monitor it. and thats the point she is making.
as for countries that do communicate with wh. they get good feedback and involvement with who to ensure risk decreases

a good example is the fact that allergy risk has always been known. its been stated as a risk. and then when some had allergic reactions. they found it out promptly and re-emphasised the advice on people with allergies. and this happened within days. it was not an unknown vector of allergic risk. it was more of a vector of the local hospitals not reading the instructions and not asking people if they have allergies properly.
(advert point 1: administration of vaccine error)
and now with better emphasis on the instructions of administering vaccines. there are less people having allergic reactions

other things like the PCR test. when a lab has bad results that lab is closed off and deep cleaned and resupplied with fresh reagents and tools. this is why if you look at the 'testing capacity' charts you see sometimes numbers go down for a day or two
again due to monitoring of processes this stuff is found out and dealt with quickly

other things like the vaccine trial when someone had a adverse effect in the trial they halted the trial while they investigated. again swift action.

..
yes some countries make 'knock-off' untested medical treatments and can cause more harm and so thats why the world summit want countries to be more helpful in accepting the support of monitoring systems to increase safety.
just look at all the drug overdose deaths from blackmarket dealers that mix cocaine with nasty stuff
stats of dying from blackmarket bad batches are worse by many magnitudes compared to dying from certified medications(research street corner supplied morphine vs medically prescribed morphine)

long rambling. but Op missing the point

the restrictions did flatten the curve. however the compliance of the restrictions was lax. people didnt follow it accuratetly which meant the flattening took months. then when the restrictions were relaxed. it caused a rise again

the virus does not respond to laws of politics. the virus is spread by people. and if there is restriction advice that says if people avoid invading personal space of 2metres and dont breathe on each other by wearing masks. then there would be no spread.

however those not respecting personal space or wearing masks caused cases. and as restrictions relaxed HUMANS caused more spread. thus being their own worst enemy and the cause of new waves of more cases.
thus tightening up restrictions again

countries that fully closed borders and had better track and trace to ensure sick people or suspected soon to be sick people stayed home. managed to get cases right down promptly

however countries that allowed national/international travel and allowed mingle/socialising in crowds didnt fair well with getting cases down

australia and china and some other asian pacific countries managed to get back to a someone 'normal' living situation. because they done a better effort at flattening the curve.

..
three factors could have changed the restrictions timescales:
1. having more hospital capacity
2. having better track/trace/isolate systems
3. having better/stricker compliance earlier to cut the case numbers faster

in essense it would have been better to have super tight restrictions for 3 months rather than have lax restrictions for 12 months

many aspects come into death rate differences.
age demographic of population.
  EG some african countries with life expectancy is 45 shows that people dont get to the higher risk age of 50+
  meaning less people in the at high risk age to then get affected more by covid. so less deaths due to covid
  US life expectancy is 81. canada is 84 so canada has more elder people(more populous at risk)
  us has 16.95% over 65. canada has 18.98% over 65

social demographic
  EG the french sector like to kiss cheeks and hugs. they are more social than americans.
  people that live with their elderly relatives (ethnic groups suffer from this the most)
  so more transfer in higher loads compared to people that stand at a distance/dont live with elderly

personal space respect and mask usage
  EG some countries disrespect personal space and avoid masks, some respect it. so the case numbers per populous change

hospital care resources
  EG countries low on resources resort to asking families to fill in 'do not resuscitate' orders on the very frail
  where by if people in care homes get sick and have a DNR. they wont be taken to hospital to be intubated
  (people that would not likely recover anyways)

to have suicided himself in such a manner shows he had some mental issues.
many people with mental issues that walk into a coffee shop and buy a coffee wont cause any concern for the barista. so using a barista's account 'he seemed normal' is empty. the barista is not a psychologist nor had hours of reviewing the guy.

what is not important is the delusions of 5g as thats a wide spread paranoia by conspiracy sites promoting to the weak minds. it has no merit or substance and is just a myth spread by cultish people

what is more interesting is the house deed transfers to a woman in california. as that is a weird action outside of the norm.
maybe we will never have answers to the reasons to transfer ownership to a supposed a stranger. but this line of investigating is more interesting than the empty of merit conspiracy rabbit hole of 5g.

you have both been linked it many times before. check your post history and stop pretending to have alzheimer's

heres some quick links that took an entire 43 seconds to find.
hamsters - https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-20774/v1
ferrets- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7144857/
monkeys - https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.17.995639v1.full
mice- https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2312-y

and thats just the first 4 links i grabbed on google
there are THOUSANDS of reports about isolating the virus and then putting it into other species to see if they react with the same symptomology.

the fact that there are thousands of reports and also done in different labs and in different countries and via different species and different methodologies rule out any political bias or 'manufacturer bias'
eg you cant say that US CDC planed certain results of countries not tied to CDC got results

if you are still unsure about the wording because you now want to play around with games that its too scientific or too summarised. the links also include details of the scientists that done the isolation. so contact them.
but just stop pretending you have never been linked any reports. that game is over

the 'heart monitoring' as you describe it can be fooled because someone could just turn up at 2 different ocassions claiming to be an identical twin and appear as a heart beat and a single person in the room. passing the robot test.
and then instead of using the right hand thumb as a fingerprint test use their left hand thump to be identified as another person
..
the old fashioned birth certificate system works because it involved witnesses. such as the midwife and the parents signing their witness to the new identity. so generating a privkey via co-signed witnesses should be part of a process. and not just a 'only person in the room' thing

funny part that conspiracy nutters wont accept
the tip off was due to phone conversations between the bomber and the tipster weeks months prior. so if the one world order government was monitoring calls they would have got the tip before the tipster called the FBI

but reality is that calls are not actively monitored. swat teams are not automatically called. guys threatening things are not automatically locked up

conspiracy nutters think government can watch all vehicles and scan for bombs.. yet governments cant even find missing planes.

conspracy nutters need to realise that governments are not surveilling as much as their paranoia thinks they do

in more funny news trump wanted no counts after a certain date..
.. today he is phoning georgia politicians to find him more votes

.. trump is desperate. kinda sounding like he is a toddler having a tantrum because mommy want buy him candy and he thinks he can just keep having a tantrum to get what he wants.
sorry trump but elections dont work like that. decisions been made so wipe your tears away and pack your bags.

funny comments(not verbatim)
trump: i have data that over 5k of dead people voted
georgia political guys: no sir it was 2. just 2
trump: ok my gal who gave me the 5k number how do you respond
trumps gal: um yea we dont have access to the data. we dont have the names and dates of births to confirm, however alot of people have the same names as possible dead people. we did ask for the data but we dont have it so there maybe 5k people with same names
(trump meanders to other topic)

trump: what about a video that giuliani showed
georgia: the one giuliani sliced and diced and edited out of context
georgia: well we showed the unedited version
(trump meanders to other topic)

trump: what about the lack of poll watches and the flood scare
georgia: ill send u a link to the original video
trump: i dont want and dont care about the original footage

trump: alot of people move out of georgia then voted
georgia: because they moved back in. the data shows they moved back years ago not just before election
trump: ill ask my gal does she have data on when they moved back
trump gal: no i dont have data on when they moved back all i have showed you was who moved out in the past

funny how trump repeats having incredible talent that seen the fraud. but then asks his gal to confirm it and all she says is that she has not been given the data.
trump then says how he thinks georgia is hiding things by not giving him fraud data.
georgia says there are no large amounts of fraud data.

seems trumps incredible talent are not credible

ok so 7.8bill people =3.9bll females
with the age range from 1-100 if you broke it down as 390m per 10year age bracket
you can discount off 6 age brackets of 0-10 and 50-100. meaning
=1.56bill woman of 'conception possible age'

so badecker wants to think 2% of woman able to conceive are murderers each year. meaning
2% kill in year 1 (37m of 1.56b)
2% kill in year 2(another 37m of 1.56b)
2% kill in year 3(another 37m of 1.56b)
and so on for 35 years of 15-50
well add that up for all the woman from 15-50. would mean that 70% of all conceptionable age women have killed atleast once in 35 years,

70%.. um. no just no. us figures are more like 24%. uk figures are under 20%. so if the 70% math based on badecker sources was correct some other countries must be in the high 90% just to balance out to 70%
..in my opinion the 37m(70%) is just too high a number to even be accurate
..
i must bring back the argument that badecker does not understand:
the definition of murder.
what gestational state 'life' is determined as.
the legal rights a woman has over her body.
.. also to note
also a high majority of 'abortions' occured in the first 12 weeks. involving swallowing a pill and having a heavy period to clearout. so not exactly a story that sounds like murder

it has been said long ago
stop circling your debunked scripts
check your post history

the issue with this topic is that the woman purposefully asked the wrong department,purposefully to get a non answer.

its like you going to a vegan store and asking for meat. when they say they dont have any. you then want to declare that meat doesnt exist.

such a lame game plan.
move on and try finding something of actual merit to talk about. stop circling your debunked myths.

if you want to have a discussion about real issues. heres some subjects
hospitals only having 0.2% beds per populous meaning they can become over run easily
US health insurance inflate the medical costs for uninsured to promote their 'valued' service.
US health insurance don't do the treatment. but can force patients to not get treatment by pricing strategy

if US hospitals had capacity of 5% then you could have had your fantasy 'herd spread' scenario
if US health insurance just paid for whatever treatment a person needed. then US treasury wouldnt have to cover the bill
if us health insurance actually did pay out properly. 32% of american workers would not be in medical debt

what badecker does not realise. is that these investigations are not to prove anything. but to have an excuse to trigger some fund spending for trumps pals.
trump has raided his $150m share of the $200m RNC fund. and now by getting republican senators to sign on an order for an investigation. trump and pence can raid the remaining $50m on the RNC side.

will true republicans realise thats whats left in the RNC fund after trump leaves on the 20th will not be enough to help republicans over the next few years