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We're still at accumulation prices. Nowhere close to FOMO prices yet.
This is the time when you should recommend to people you actually care about to get into Bitcoin. Not just buy but understand it. (ie...send them a link to the white paper).
When the price shoots up and you start getting e-mails from people asking if they should get into "crypto", politely point them to some videos about the Federal Reserve, Austrian economics, etc. Then if they're still interested (knowing they get it)...then show them the white paper.
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Does anyone know when bitcointalk.org was created?
I did a whois and it shows 2011 but I remember being here in 2010.
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I answered the poll honestly. I don't know.
I doubt anyone willknow until months later.
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Well, another night I go to sleep knowing that I will wake up to a lower bitcoin price.
We thought this was a quick band aid rip off.
Instead it's a slow bleed draining the life from us.
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And look how my GF Made my travelcase, map with all the papers and where to go “haha, but how very sweet” Just affraid that i would miss something i guess  Every page hours flights marked etc ....... Dude. You need to put a ring on that finger of hers. He is a 'genius' as BTC goes down he will see if it was for himself or the BTC Hoard  My gf of 10 years (we are early 30’s - got together young) is currently in the phase of telling me that I ruined ‘our lives by not selling when it was $19,000’. GF needs to get a job and buy the dip. Told my gf yesterday she is done shopping. BTC is too low. She was ok with that. |
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I was taking a look at 2015 charts. We are in a similar situation .  Difference being that -this time- Bitcoin will end. Because stuff and things. |
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Well well well...
You had to say those keywords there Elwar... now every 3-letter agency will monitor this thread.
You did computer stuff, you know how it works.
r0ach is already keeping an eye on us |
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Security for civilian contractors or something else? Ok if you cant say.
I did computer stuff. |
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Apparently multiple emails in several cities, states and possibly countries from what I can gather. MSM is of course milking it for all its worth. CNN was "forwarded" this email supposedly. This false flag is obviously being perpetrated by a nocoiner with nefarious at worst, slanderous at best intentions. No bitcoiner worth he's salt would touch outputs from that(such) address(s).  It's a good thing the guy is an idiot. If the letter was more articulate then it would be an obvious CIA project and a bomb would actually be detonated. |
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before I found a job in Afghanistan Ok now you have my attention. Please share. Inverted H&S forming on 1H. Lisa action to follow. That was my job...defense contractor. Iraq and Afghanistan jobs pay the big money. You work 12 hour days, 7 days a week 365 days a year. And being in a war zone you get an extra 50% or so on top of your salary. So the amount of time plus salary bonus leads to very good income. But it is certainly taxing on the soul and there's also the possibility of getting hit by a bomb. Last time I was there a bomb hit about 100m from where I was sitting, went off right outside the toilets I usually go to. Before that they discovered an unexploded bomb in the ground. I had walked over that location several times. |
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$3498
Same reason as previous guesses. Bear guess so I can feel a little better if the price stays so low.
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With the price this low it reminds me of the last downturn. I told my boss that I would take any job anywhere in the world no matter how much of a shithole or how dangerous as long as I made a lot of money. I knew that the bear market wouldn't last that long and I wanted to get as much bitcoin as I could gobble up in the mean time. Unfortunately it took a while before I found a job in Afghanistan just as the price was starting to move upwards.
Either way I put every last bit of fiat into bitcoin during the bear market. Take advantage of the opportunity you are being given right now.
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Yet, in the Seasteading that exists right now, there is a contract with the French Polynesian Government. Once there are, say, a hundred private structures built, there might be a hundred private contracts for visitors to each private structure. But they all fall under the French Polynesian Government contract. This underlying Contract might allow anybody to take his chunk of island, and depart, no questions asked, any time he wants. And if it does, great! But if it doesn't, or if there are other rules, are they good rules, and how far into the future are they binding, and any number of other questions.  Ahh, I see. Yes, the French Polynesia thing will have legal contracts and restrictions as agreed upon between Blue Frontiers and the French Polynesian government. But that one is far from happening. Still waiting on the government to get its act together which could be a few years. The private seasteads (in a different location) will happen sooner than that. |
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A single company creating a single seastead is working on an agreement with French Polynesia.
Imagine the first person to come up with the concept of a "house". They go to the chief of the little village and negotiate a location for their new technology of 4 walls and a roof. There is an official agreement in that village for a house that is to be built. It will be amazing. All of your dreams will come true.
And then there's another guy thousands of miles away with the same idea. He doesn't even discuss it with his village chief, he just goes into the woods and builds a small house. Or even...has his friends build him a house. In exchange they get some coconuts or some meat from his last catch.
Then his friends decide to build houses near his house.
No government is needed just because a house is built. Same for seasteading. Just build it and live in it. If you want to interact with your neighbors, interact. If you don't like how your neighbor interacts with you...move your house.
It's really that simple.
Seasteading creates these images of fantasy land where all of your dreams come true. That's why I won't be talking about the project I'm working on because unless someone sees it in action the concept of seasteading comes with all sorts of baggage. People either believe it solves all problems or creates all problems. They already have an image in their head of what seasteading is. And all of those ideas are different from everyone else's ideas. But their idea is the best...because reasons.
That's almost the thing that I have been saying. But consider: Over the years, all those people who wanted to live free on the waters have done it. A few of them have done it jointly under one kind of agreement or another. Some may even have advertised for people to join them, like Seasteading does. Seasteading is under contract. The contract is governing law. If people join, because it looks like Seasteading has strength, there should really be strength in the contract... strength for freedom. After all, Seasteading "leaders" don't want to hurt people, do they? How big was the USA government when the Constitution and the Amendments were ratified? Most of the people agreed with the new USA grudgingly, because it was the lesser of two evils, King George being the greater. Seasteading people aren't agreeing grudgingly. They are jumping right in. Are they doing so without understanding the basics of the contract? The new USA government happened to be a good freedom form. Is the Seasteading contract? Every year there is an event called ephemerisle. A bunch of people in a California bay get together and build floating structures and have a week long party. Some structures form islands and some require that you sign a contract before you can come aboard. The contracts are usually something like "I promise not to hurt anyone, litter, steal, etc.". Each one has a different contract. "Seasteading" is not one thing that will be governed by one thing. You might come to my house and I have one set of rules and go to someone else's house and they have other rules. Some people may combine their houses and have an agreed upon set of rules. I fully expect that if seasteading reaches the point where they are trying to form nations, they will have more nations than currently exist. Think alt coins but in the physical space. There may be some main ones but it will continuously be splitting off into other forms. |
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January has not been that great for bitcoin. Everyone paying their credit card bills for Christmas... Also, new tax year to sell bitcoins. |
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It's one of the few places left where you can spend your bitcoins online. Unfortunately. I'm to the point of considering ordering a credit card. My Amex was supposed to be only for emergencies but I've racked up plenty of useless sky miles over the past year with it. Two words: Shift card. More words: spend your Bitcoin at any place that takes Visa. Since you brought it up jbreher, notice that the Shift card uses Bitcoin TM and only Bitcoin TM. Not your BCash shitcoin or any of its idiotic variants, nor any of the 30+ some odd shitcoins that Coinbase plans to bring online soon. Gee, I wonder why that is? Lol. That's not very good criteria (Coinbase and all...). I do not doubt that at some point BitPay will forsake all profit and drop Bitcoin for Bcash as the only accepted currency. They already hardly accept bitcoin. They advertise Bcash every transaction, adding transaction fees for each bitcoin transaction, eating bcash transaction fees. I'd ask how they even stay in business but I'm sure their bcash shilling pretty much shows where they're getting the money to keep their doors open. |
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I had a girlfriend in Cluj for a while. Hope my influencing her to get into Bitcoin didn't play a role in this kid getting arrested. Then again, I got ripped off by some Romanians for about 35 BTC so if he's part of them I hope they're sending him off to the north pole to attach his nuts to Santa's sleigh. |
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I like the idea.If I could afford it I would give it a go for sure.There was an ICO related to seasteading few months ago, but it didn't turn out it seems. I haven't checked what really happened and why it failed, Elwar do you know why? NOt enough funds raised?
Like most of the other ICOs it was just bad timing. They missed the boom last year and tried to do an ICO during the bear cycle. They set a minimum raise amount and did not hit that number so they refunded everyone's money. They also ran into problems in French Polynesia with the government...it was election season so the opposition used Blue Frontiers as an opportunity to turn it into an election time issue making up all sorts of false claims to try to win votes. In the end the party attacking the project lost. But in order to save face the government backed down from their promises during the election and couldn't figure out a way to get back to it afterwards. There is still some work going on there in French Polynesia to have it on one of the remote islands but time will tell. Blue Frontiers started expanding to other countries during the whole thing so hopefully a new destination crops up. It's probably good that they didn't get enough funding since it was raised in ETH and since this summer the price has crashed. The project would have failed while also taking a lot of peoples' money. |
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If no one is buying how the fuck the price stay there? Manipulation?
I am serious (this time), no one here seems to be buying right now, much less the "regular" people, so... who is buying to support the price?
No matter what it 'seems', for every seller of a Bitcoin, there is a buyer of a Bitcoin. Sometimes, this fundamental principle seems to escape attention. What I find most vexatious is how someone is only concerned about price manipulation when it is being held down and not when the price is rising. Down = Manipulation Up = Adoption/FOMO/Accumulation. Plenty in here were concerned about the price going up too high. We were wishing it would just stabilize many times as it kept going up too quickly. |
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