edit: yes i got in early enough and am nowhere near a loss and still hodl more than i sodl.
Everybody on this forum got in early enough. At least, if count the people which actually own some satoshis. Not 100% there are people on this forum who bought around $1000, they got in, but too late should have some patience.There, fixed it for you Unfixed that for you, I did say i went from a bullbear to a full blown bear today, so please don't try and put words in this bears big mouth
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edit: yes i got in early enough and am nowhere near a loss and still hodl more than i sodl.
Everybody on this forum got in early enough. At least, if count the people which actually own some satoshis. Not 100% there are people on this forum who bought around $1000, they got in, but too late.
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yesterday i was a bullbear... today i am full blown bear. just sold 100 coins, don't care if we rebound i could use the cash.
Really? Nice, you must have got in very early. Desperate for cash - spends his time on a forum. unless he get paid for being in the forum ? You cracked it, you win the chocolate tea pot award, yes thermos pays me and other hero members to hang out on his forum and post sporadically.
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nah this is the troll observer thread, you come here to observe trolls in their natural habitat, a mostly unmoderated forum thread.
edit: kind of like a virtual troll zoo
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Yeah, I guess he's just trolling as 99% of the regulars here... Got to admit, he does it with style though! Edit: HDBuck has the 133+3$+ sig though from us all. No trolling, just style here
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Is this a joke? Sometimes I can't tell anymore.
I am not paid for those adverts i do it for free
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yesterday i was a bullbear... today i am full blown bear. just sold 100 coins, don't care if we rebound i could use the cash.
Really? Nice, you must have got in very early. Desperate for cash - spends his time on a forum. Didn't say i was desperate for cash, I said i could use the cash(more so than the BTC) at this point in time. someone with 100btc to sell is not really desperate for cash are they? ever seen me with a paid signature campaign, taking out BTC loans or begging for dust..... nope because i am not desperate. I do enjoy reading some BTC antics during my day to day life and where better to get the drama than bitcoingossip forum edit: yes i got in early enough and am nowhere near a loss and still hodl more than i sodl.
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yesterday i was a bullbear... today i am full blown bear. just sold 100 coins, don't care if we rebound i could use the cash.
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I don't really think even the majority of sales via bitpay involve a bitcoin newbie purchasing bitcoin from a third party or exchange and then using this bitcoin to buy something. Who said (or even implied) that it was close to "a majority"? What I said was it was "a potential". In any event, when the retailer converts to USD, someone out there is buying the BTC. okay sorry i went on rant for nothing.... mostly retailers don't ever see or hold a BTC, it's handled by bitpay and the retailer get their fiat, unless they pre select to keep a % of the BTC collected from a sale. Every sale on bitpay is a potential drop in price without buying pressure and i don't believe bitpay offers enough incentive for customers to pay with bitpay. they only offer merchants incentive to accept bitpay as a form of transfer.
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Stop using bitpay & similar companies.
This is misguided advice at best. Bitpay and similar services are the near-term future of Bitcoin commerce. Yes, I fully understand the perspective that says since Bitpay retailers frequently do immediate conversion to USD, they're generating negative price pressure. However, for every potential retail purchase conversion to USD, there's a potential new adopter converting from USD. Retailers currently have to pay 99% of their bills in fiat. That will not change instantly, no matter how much we wish it could. For Bitcoin to take off, retailers must accept it and must have success doing so. Bitpay is the crutch that bypasses the chicken-and-egg conundrum of BTC acceptance. Don't fear it. Embrace it. Your feared short-term price devaluation is insignificant in the long run compared to broad retailer acceptance and high consumer activity. I don't really think even the majority of sales via bitpay involve a bitcoin newbie purchasing bitcoin from a third party or exchange and then using this bitcoin to buy something. example: http://www.mensocks.nl/ - these people accept bitcoin locally instore, mainly because they are friends with a local bitcoiner. I can almost tell you straight up that no person goes to a local bitcoin ATM machine pays 7% premium above market price, then takes these BTC and spends them on something which they could have just bought with their euro without having to pay 7% to buy BTC. The only people who buy socks there using bitcoin are people who already owned bitcoin. No buy pressure only sell pressure. Apart from retailers who ONLY accept bitcoin for their produce i find it hard to believe joe bloggs would go buy bitcoin and then use this to buy something he can normally buy with fiat. Bitpay is a tool for bitcoin holders to spend their bitcoin and push the price down, probably set out by rothschild types. edit: another local example - https://www.thuisbezorgd.nl/en/. food delivery from almost every takeaway restraunt in the netherlands. via proxy almost all food delivery accept bitcoin. do the stores ever see a bitcoin...... nope. would joe bloggs go buy some bitcoin to order his pizza when he can do it quicker and easier with cahs or credit card. the only people i know spending BTC on https://www.thuisbezorgd.nl/en/ are people who hold BTC.
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i'm currently a bear bull, could go anyway.
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i'll take one..... sorry don't speak dutch just ignorant expat living in NL
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just going to leave this here for the epicness of the post... really still cracks me up. I AM HODLING December 18, 2013, 10:03:03 AM Reply with quote #1 I type d that tyitle twice because I knew it was wrong the first time. Still wrong. w/e. GF's out at a lesbian bar, BTC crashing WHY AM I HOLDING? I'LL TELL YOU WHY. It's because I'm a bad trader and I KNOW I'M A BAD TRADER. Yeah you good traders can spot the highs and the lows pit pat piffy wing wong wang just like that and make a millino bucks sure no problem bro. Likewise the weak hands are like OH NO IT'S GOING DOWN I'M GONNA SELL he he he and then they're like OH GOD MY ASSHOLE when the SMART traders who KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THEY'RE DOING buy back in but you know what? I'm not part of that group. When the traders buy back in I'm already part of the market capital so GUESS WHO YOU'RE CHEATING day traders NOT ME~! Those taunt threads saying "OHH YOU SHOULD HAVE SOLD" YEAH NO SHIT. NO SHIT I SHOULD HAVE SOLD. I SHOULD HAVE SOLD MOMENTS BEFORE EVERY SELL AND BOUGHT MOMENTS BEFORE EVERY BUY BUT YOU KNOW WHAT NOT EVERYBODY IS AS COOL AS YOU. You only sell in a bear market if you are a good day trader or an illusioned noob. The people inbetween hold. In a zero-sum game such as this, traders can only take your money if you sell.
so i've had some whiskey actually on the bottle it's spelled whisky w/e sue me (but only if it's payable in BTC)
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Noobs(edit for spelling) don't know the hold movement?
Google bitcoin hold or bitcoin hold meme
Still doesnt make sense to me, I try to be on the "serious threads" im afraid, but maybe you can explain the joke so we can laugh together https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.0Hodl or hodling it a term that has stuck in the bitcoin community because of a user posting a thread with a spelling mistake during the December 2013 crash, i guess it brought some humor upon dark times and brought people together with humor. Just as Beauty is in the eye of the behodler i would say humor is the same. edit: maybe it was one of those you had to be here/there at the time....
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Noobs(edit for spelling) don't know the hodl movement?
Google bitcoin hodl or bitcoin hodl meme
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I was just playing devils advocate An investment into BTC only ROI's if the full amount of BTC are returned, I don't hodl fiat but i do hodl bitcoins
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interesting, i guess the BTC are worth a lot less fiat than when you paid for the contracts.
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I wonder if this isn't causing the current price of BTC to take a nose-dive, if they sold off $40m of coin. I was digging around blockchain and I've come to the conclusion that KNC did actually dump $40m worth of bitcoins on the market. Here are addresses owned by KNC: 1H1sq6Msgt9HjRrBuz8ieZdThzWXS6oPVA (knc in the coinbase.) 1A73ExsM2doRwTLp82rv5U36QHbBFmHD1X (knc in the coinbase) 1Nbq2XZaRsKknf5fcT2wTXvBS31PaUWSeX (KNC mining at eligius) 1D5FhoiuLMJJ43BCMGidwvbKWfr71g1vH9 (another eligius address) Combined they have mined ~82,000 btc. From the mining addresses the BTC is then sent to a few consolidation wallets the largest of which is 1CU8DYQxwBfq7UTWdopxsodimYwZMVXcbh From there it looks like just about all the BTC is sent to exchange wallets.
Of course KnC have sold all the bitcoins they have mined. They do not care about the value of a bitcoin in the future, they see $$$ in those blocks and that what they are working for.
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So peaceful here... WTF ? you ignore yourself too? ALT account
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