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1061  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: RESPONSE to Icebreaker and real concerns on: January 03, 2017, 01:23:14 AM
Hello,
I believe this is my first post this thread. I've been buying Dash for about a year and a half now. I'm very concerned about a variety of things mainly because of the way things are playing out. Correct me if I'm wrong, but far the market is basically saying that there's really no competition between Monero and Dash and Monero is simply just taking over the so called privacy area of crypto that was supposed to be Dash's niche.
1) So can anyone please tell me how exactly is Dash better?
And I hope the answer will not be because of the voting rights from the Masternode because that would but the decentralization argument into question. I look at charts and numbers but I rarely read the go over the chatter, but if i can recall correctly Monero was mocked and ridiculed by the Dash team 2 years ago. But again I mainly look at charts and numbers.
2) I've been catching up with some of the interviews from the Dash team and it seems like they're kinda going after bitcoin. I believe that could be a grave mistake. This whole industry was created through bitcoin wasn't it. So if that's the case is, then why are we criticizing bitcoin in such an aggressive manner and even if we were right is it really worth it? I mean the results so far speak for it self.
3) Lastly, the argument by Icebreaker in my opinion was very constructive and yet it seems like the only response on this thread were personal attacks about his personal failures which have absolutely nothing to do with the content of his criticism. Can anyone refute his criticism? I'm a Dash supporter and I hold almost 2K coins because I really thought they were undervalued by at least $500, but after reading Icebreakers criticism and looking at Monero go take over the market I'm just about ready to leave the bandwagon. I'm not trying to be a jerk but these are just my concerns.

Hi Mike323,

You have a good understanding of the situation, here's a few more details to enrich your nuances.   Smiley

1. Monero picked up the anon baton after Darkcoin intentionally threw it away.  Darkcoin voluntarily abandoned its brand and association with/quest for privacy/fungibility.  That pivot came after Duffield realized he could not simply copy Cryptonote's ring signatures and add them to Dash's feature as yet another gimmick/buzzword.

2. The Dash community is non-technical and skeezy (sketchy+sleezy) while the Monero community is highly technical and brutally honest/forthright.  That bright contrast shows itself especially in situations like the (short-lived temporary) one where DashHoles like tok and tante foolishly spewed nonsense about how Dash's privacy is better than Monero's, while having little or no comprehension of the actual maths operating under the hoods of the two coins.  The Monero Mustangs don't even bother with low tech marketing theater such as Dash's soda machine and (vaporous) Lamassu ATM.  We should note that *IF* Monero people wanted to make silly stuff like soda machines and ATMs, these feats would be accomplished with much less hassle/drama/expense than experienced by the Evan's Gate cargo cult.  Average DashHole IQ is around 110; average Mustang is about 125 (an entire standard deviation higher), which results in dialogs resembling space aliens attempting to communicate with barnyard animals.  Mustangs tend to work high tech jobs in cutting edge fields; DashHoles OTOH are most often found in the service industry performing reprehensibly sociopathic roles such as helping the gambling industry parasitize vulnerable elderly peoples' life savings.

3. Peter Todd's savage "cargo cult" tweet characterizing DashHoles as primitive islanders incapable of understanding, much less inventing/maintaining, advanced technology is spot-on.  The best example of this is Dash's hamfisted shoehorning of gmax's Coinjoin schema into the Masternode network of trusted 3rd parties (which utterly defeats the point of permissionless/trustless/uncensorable e-cash).

4. DashHoles are desperate.  Their get-rick-quick scheme is running months behind schedule and even the dimmest among them have started to sense the Instamine Express is going off the rails as Evolution remains undefined vaporware without even a whitepaper, big budget projects end in disaster, and the ensuing acrimony sets the cult compound at each other's throats.  That's why we see them attacking/rubbishing/FUDing Bitcoin (which in any case is rude behavior on a site called BITCOIN-talk).  Never mind the fact that Dash is a fork of Bitcoin, DashHoles feverishly believe that's different Because Reasons.  Their desperation and fear also manifests in being overly defensive, such as when technical discussion/criticism is derailed with forum sliding, ad hom accusations of trolling/scamming/shilling, and endless entreaties for observers to simply Ignore posters who fail to accept and amplify the prevailing cheerleader echo chamber groupthink. 

The irritable DashHoles' condescending non sequitur responses to criticism is the result of them feeling ashamed of and disappointed in, rather than proud and enthusiastic about, their project.  Isn't it funny how reasonable people like you and Stealth923 feel it necessary to coddle their easily offended and delicate sensibilities by beginning and ending your posts with disclaimers stating you are not a "troll" nor "trying to be a jerk?"   Cheesy

5. I didn't merely make criticisms of Dash, I also made *ACCURATE* predictions regarding its market cap leaking into Monero's at ever-increasing rates.  The accuracy of those predictions validates my information and analytical approach, demonstrating my socioeconomic modeling represents truth sufficient to beat (IE front-run) the market.
1062  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dash still a thing? on: January 02, 2017, 07:49:05 AM
Stealth923, a Dash Foundation Member who is now calling BULLSHIT on Dash's scamming and thus on the brink of liquidating his Masternodes and rage quitting.

Quote from: Stealth923
As much as I hate saying this, I will be voting no against @babygiraffe and the core team proposals.

They keep asking for money but have zero responsibility and accountability to provide updates.

If there are no updates throughout January, I will start offloading my masternodes as continual behaviour like this will never result in a successful project.

@kot @babygiraffe many people have been asking for updates for months for projects you are running. Stop ignoring us.

I'm so glad that the influence of BCT posters is waning due to the many other venues out there to discuss Dash... the quality of posts here is going downhill fast.


Changing the subject to meta about "quality of posts" is a transparent attempt to discuss something other than Dash's Lamassu ATM integration fiasco.

Are you going to address the content of Stealth923's post, or just keep complaining about the forum on which we are posting?
1063  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / [DASH] Dash Price and Trade Discussion Thread [UNMODERATED] on: January 02, 2017, 07:44:19 AM
Since DashHole cultists are deleting posts containing information contrary to their groupthink, here is an unmoderated Dash price thread.

Share & Enjoy!

------------------------------------------------





The Dash Scamassu ATM, Proton Mail, Mycelium, and Coinfirm fiascos aren't helping the price keep up with Bitcoin, much less Monero.

At least one Masternode owner (and Foundation Member) will "start offloading this month" if there is no substantial progress reported, because Dash core team proposals "keep asking for money but have zero responsibility and accountability to provide updates."

Is there enough volume and bid depth to absorb several Masternodes being liquidated?
1064  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [DASH] Dash Price and Trade Discussion Thread on: January 02, 2017, 07:42:19 AM
a little reminder from post 1 :

* Self-moderated thread, accusations of scam towards Dash will not be tolerated
* Please stay On-Topic and do not promote other altcoins in this thread


OK, here is my post without the controversial part.



Better?
1065  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dash still a thing? on: January 02, 2017, 04:54:41 AM
Stealth923, a Dash Foundation Member who is now calling BULLSHIT on Dash's scamming and thus on the brink of liquidating his Masternodes and rage quitting.

Quote from: Stealth923
As much as I hate saying this, I will be voting no against @babygiraffe and the core team proposals.

They keep asking for money but have zero responsibility and accountability to provide updates.

If there are no updates throughout January, I will start offloading my masternodes as continual behaviour like this will never result in a successful project.

@kot @babygiraffe many people have been asking for updates for months for projects you are running. Stop ignoring us.



Sure when I do it, I'm spamming, but when you do it it's called "XPOST"ing. The hypocrisy is strong with this one.  Wink

You put #DASHSPAM advertisements in the body of your posts, ignoring the instruction from theymos to put them in your sig.

You make duplicate posts in the main Dash thread and your spam archive echo chamber thread, which is also against the rules.

You receive monetary compensation from THE DARKCOIN FOUNDATION INC. for making these attempts at astroturf (fake grassroots) marketing.

OTOH, my 100% on-topic crossposts represent ancient internet tradition and I am not paid by "Dash Nation" to make them.

Please spam less, listen more, and stop presuming to correct your elders/superiors.
1066  Other / Off-topic / Re: TV Series Recommendations... on: January 02, 2017, 02:55:16 AM
People Of Earth is great.   Cool
1067  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dash still a thing? on: January 02, 2017, 12:03:02 AM
Dash is pure nonsense. Fraudulent coin distribution, bullshit marketed as novel technology, and incompetent leadership to top it off. There are a bunch of Dash shills who are still active here, but the community is in decline. Just look at how their subreddit can't even add 100 new followers a month.

Oh, and that masternode funding system they love to shill? Dysfunctional nonsense dressed up to appear "revolutionary". Just ask them how that vending machine is going. Or any of the other big projects that have been abject failures. Sad.

I agree with cryptohunter. Almost no one outside of Dash takes the project seriously. It's well known to be a scam, and they can't wash off that taint by changing their name to that of a laundry detergent.

As I predicted a year ago, the leaking of Dash's market cap into Monero's has accelerated.

That trend was obvious, since the Dash rebrand alienated loyal Darkcoin supporters like vertoe and all Dash's big projects have turned into dumpster fires.

XPOST:

Dash's "decentralized governance model" and "decentralized budget model" are proven liabilities, not assets.

The proof of that claim is the negative ROI and reputation damage done by Dash's many failed high-profile/high-budget resource allocations.

Rather than show the world how "distributed governance by blockchain" can work successfully, Dash repeatedly demonstrated the wrong way to do it.

Dash fails at basic tasks over and over again, because they become so convoluted and unaccountable.  It's like you Evan's Gate cargo cultists cannot learn from mistakes, because admitting fault would be "trolling" and "shilling for Monero."


Here in all its glory is

Dash's Litany Of Governance Failures

- aka -

2016 YEAR IN REVIEW


1) Legal work Part I - 1492 Dash - (Masternode rewards etc for IRS) https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-legal-sept.10457/
2) Legal work Part II - 1728 Dash - https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-legal-part-ii-oct.10786/

-So much money spent, and yet we still don't have a legal opinion on how Dash supposedly avoids the registration/regulation appropriate to an investment product like Masternodes (Howey Test) and the requirement to comply with Money Services Business licensing.


3) ATM Master Compliance Program Phase 1 - 748 Dash - https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-dash-atm-master-compliance-program-phase-i.10312/

-You DashHoles got scammed by your own community on this one.  They took the money and ran, and Scamassu says they've never heard of Dash.  Not to mention the very existence of Dash ATMs demonstrates Dash is not actually digital cash.


4) Marketing - Brand & Design - 350 Dash - https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-marketing-brand-design.11279/

-Another fiasco.  You idiots failed to account for changes in the Dash price, then reneged on your contract with the PR firm, thus demonstrating why nobody should ever expect a firm, enforceable arrangement with anything as flaky as "muh blockchain democracy."


5) Lamassu epic failure of a project - 7327 Dash - Multiple threads on forums, slack etc asking for updates and silence for months and months!

-This is my favorite.  Ira Miller scammed the hell out of you gullible cultists and it took you months to figure that out.  See what happens when you allocate resources without skin in the game?  That's right, you get mal-allocation as scammers show up in droves to eat the free lunches provided by Evan's monetary printing press.  I hope Daniel (Minotaur) and Ira are spending their free coins on beaches/booze/babes!


6) Proton Mail Integration - countless developer hours with many meetings and travel and nothing? Saying "we did our part" and its up to them it not good enough in my books. How are we being proactive etc.

-Yet another example of DashHoles prioritizing Hope & Dreams over solid, actually useful development.  If Proton saw an advantage to using Dash (which doesn't exist because BTC's privacy is better) they would add it without artificial incentives.


7) Mycelium Integration - ditto as above?

-LOL, That's Not Going To Happen.  Again DashHoles vainly try to force the invisible hand of the market by distorting the profit motive with out of band side channel bribes.


8. Soda Machine

-So much trouble and expense just for the sake of kissing MacAffee's ass for 5 minutes.  You incompetent buffoons could barely get the thing to work; the whole idea of a full node on every soda machine is beyond ridiculous and well into the real of self-parody.  The cherry on top was the cult losing a key supporter due to the rage quit engendered by working on this over-due, over-budget dumpster fire of a project.


9.  Dash Nation

-We are sick of the Dash Spam.  Enough duplicate posts.  Enough in-post advertising.  Do you guys know what they do to spammers in Russia?


Thats 11645++ Dash gone into thin air with NOTHING to show for it


WHO WAS RUNNING THESE PROJECTS, and why was there not even questions asked internally from the Dash core team??
Why did no one ever care to keep these projects on track or accountable?

Core team keeps trying to bite off more than it can chew.

FINISH a few projects to completion with high quality is better than having many sitting there unfinished with wasted money and no momentum.

Of course the DashHoles will ignore all of this and deflect by calling me a "troll."

But they can't do that to Stealth923, a Dash Foundation Member who is now calling BULLSHIT on Dash's scamming and thus on the brink of liquidating his Masternodes and rage quitting.

Quote from: Stealth923
As much as I hate saying this, I will be voting no against @babygiraffe and the core team proposals.

They keep asking for money but have zero responsibility and accountability to provide updates.

If there are no updates throughout January, I will start offloading my masternodes as continual behaviour like this will never result in a successful project.

@kot @babygiraffe many people have been asking for updates for months for projects you are running. Stop ignoring us.


1068  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 01, 2017, 05:18:17 AM
Stealth923, a Dash Foundation Member who is now calling BULLSHIT on Dash's scamming and thus on the brink of liquidating his Masternodes and rage quitting.

Quote from: Stealth923
As much as I hate saying this, I will be voting no against @babygiraffe and the core team proposals.

They keep asking for money but have zero responsibility and accountability to provide updates.

If there are no updates throughout January, I will start offloading my masternodes as continual behaviour like this will never result in a successful project.

@kot @babygiraffe many people have been asking for updates for months for projects you are running. Stop ignoring us.


You're going to look stupid when these projects start to bare fruit.


Just me, or Stealth923 as well?  Or do you mean all people voicing concern about giving considerable amounts of money to Dash employees/subcontractors who "keep asking for money but have zero responsibility and accountability to provide updates?"
1069  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 01, 2017, 03:21:19 AM
I do find it a bit disappointing that Coindesk assumes our growth of 3x price-wise and 4x marketcap-wise only got realised
because of our name-change. Not a word about our decentralized governance model, our decentralized budget model and
the incentivized elements of our masternode network.

The rebrand was a net loss, as it alienated Darkcoin fans (like vertoe) who initially supported Darkcoin and destroyed with the generic new name any reasonable expectation of a decent Google page rank.

Dash's "decentralized governance model" and "decentralized budget model" are proven liabilities, not assets.

The proof of that claim is the negative ROI and reputation damage done by Dash's many failed high-profile/high-budget resource allocations.

Rather than show the world how "distributed governance by blockchain" can work successfully, Dash repeatedly demonstrated the wrong way to do it.

Dash fails at basic tasks over and over again, because they become so convoluted and unaccountable.  It's like you Evan's Gate cargo cultists cannot learn from mistakes, because admitting fault would be "trolling" and "shilling for Monero."


Here in all its glory is

Dash's Litany Of Governance Failures

- aka -

2016 YEAR IN REVIEW


1) Legal work Part I - 1492 Dash - (Masternode rewards etc for IRS) https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-legal-sept.10457/
2) Legal work Part II - 1728 Dash - https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-legal-part-ii-oct.10786/

-So much money spent, and yet we still don't have a legal opinion on how Dash supposedly avoids the registration/regulation appropriate to an investment product like Masternodes (Howey Test) and the requirement to comply with Money Services Business licensing.


3) ATM Master Compliance Program Phase 1 - 748 Dash - https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-dash-atm-master-compliance-program-phase-i.10312/

-You DashHoles got scammed by your own community on this one.  They took the money and ran, and Scamassu says they've never heard of Dash.  Not to mention the very existence of Dash ATMs demonstrates Dash is not actually digital cash.


4) Marketing - Brand & Design - 350 Dash - https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-marketing-brand-design.11279/

-Another fiasco.  You idiots failed to account for changes in the Dash price, then reneged on your contract with the PR firm, thus demonstrating why nobody should ever expect a firm, enforceable arrangement with anything as flaky as "muh blockchain democracy."


5) Lamassu epic failure of a project - 7327 Dash - Multiple threads on forums, slack etc asking for updates and silence for months and months!

-This is my favorite.  Ira Miller scammed the hell out of you gullible cultists and it took you months to figure that out.  See what happens when you allocate resources without skin in the game?  That's right, you get mal-allocation as scammers show up in droves to eat the free lunches provided by Evan's monetary printing press.  I hope Daniel (Minotaur) and Ira are spending their free coins on beaches/booze/babes!


6) Proton Mail Integration - countless developer hours with many meetings and travel and nothing? Saying "we did our part" and its up to them it not good enough in my books. How are we being proactive etc.

-Yet another example of DashHoles prioritizing Hope & Dreams over solid, actually useful development.  If Proton saw an advantage to using Dash (which doesn't exist because BTC's privacy is better) they would add it without artificial incentives.


7) Mycelium Integration - ditto as above?

-LOL, That's Not Going To Happen.  Again DashHoles vainly try to force the invisible hand of the market by distorting the profit motive with out of band side channel bribes.


8. Soda Machine

-So much trouble and expense just for the sake of kissing MacAffee's ass for 5 minutes.  You incompetent buffoons could barely get the thing to work; the whole idea of a full node on every soda machine is beyond ridiculous and well into the real of self-parody.  The cherry on top was the cult losing a key supporter due to the rage quit engendered by working on this over-due, over-budget dumpster fire of a project.


9.  Dash Nation

-We are sick of the Dash Spam.  Enough duplicate posts.  Enough in-post advertising.  Do you guys know what they do to spammers in Russia?


Thats 11645++ Dash gone into thin air with NOTHING to show for it


WHO WAS RUNNING THESE PROJECTS, and why was there not even questions asked internally from the Dash core team??
Why did no one ever care to keep these projects on track or accountable?

Core team keeps trying to bite off more than it can chew.

FINISH a few projects to completion with high quality is better than having many sitting there unfinished with wasted money and no momentum.

Of course the DashHoles will ignore all of this and deflect by calling me a "troll."

But they can't do that to Stealth923, a Dash Foundation Member who is now calling BULLSHIT on Dash's scamming and thus on the brink of liquidating his Masternodes and rage quitting.

Quote from: Stealth923
As much as I hate saying this, I will be voting no against @babygiraffe and the core team proposals.

They keep asking for money but have zero responsibility and accountability to provide updates.

If there are no updates throughout January, I will start offloading my masternodes as continual behaviour like this will never result in a successful project.

@kot @babygiraffe many people have been asking for updates for months for projects you are running. Stop ignoring us.
1070  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Darkcoin Collapsing Monero UP on: December 30, 2016, 10:00:54 PM
It is still not too late to convert 1 masternode into 1000 XMR.

It's too late now.  Can't wait for Jaxx and RingCT soontm.

1071  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin's Great Schism - A Compendium on: December 30, 2016, 09:45:35 PM
8/11/15
I ran Bitcoin Core for >3 years, and I turned it off today
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1150481.0

7/25/14
Share your ideas on what to replace the 1 MB block size limit with
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=709970.0

Noteworthy for this if nothing else.   Shocked

Quote
Edit: With respect to CryptoNote and Monero, I do see merit in the argument that the fee penalty alone may not be enough to constrain blocksize; however when combined with the difficulty increase requirement the picture changes. As for the specifics of the Monero blockchain there are also other factors including dust from mining pools that led to the early bloating, and we must also keep in mind the CryptoNote and Monero also have built in privacy which adds to the blocksize by its very nature.
Yes, its complicated— but it's also concerning. The only altcoins that I'm aware of which have diverged from the current Bitcoin behavior in this front, and did so with the benefits of all the discussions we've had before being available to them, have been suffering from crippling bloat.

Glancing at block explorers for Monero and ByteCoin... I'm not seeing crippling bloat right now. I see lots of very-few-transactions blocks.

Glancing at recent release notes for ByteCoin, it looks like transactions were not being prioritized by fee, which is a fundamental to getting a working fee market.

Have Monero and ByteCoin fixed the bloat problem, or did the transaction spammers just get bored and go away?
1072  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 30, 2016, 09:25:49 PM
Does any other coin have master nodes similar to Dash?

Dash Classic (the fork+relaunch without an instamine) will have master nodes.

It might also lower the 1000 coin requirement to something less undemocratic and elitist.
1073  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ELI5 about Bitcoin XT on: December 30, 2016, 09:14:00 PM
The more the mods tighten their grip, the more nodes will slip through their fingers...

Said the guy who rage quit the forum because XT posed zero threat to Core and became a laughingstock....


1074  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Monero 2017 !!! on: December 30, 2016, 08:27:35 PM
MoneroMRX

If all the monerotards would have spent their money on buying more XMR instead of obvious childish shilling attemps like this one, their marketcap might be way higher.

And from all the shitcoins, there's no way XMR will be dominant in '17.

Thing is, not even BTC hit mainstream levels which begs the question why would anyone new to crypto would care for a shady anon coin? Because let's face it, the only thing going for XMR is anonimity, but everything else is utter shit.

That's an OK attempt at trolling, but I was disappointed you forgot to include your favorite anti-Monero talking point - "MUH BOTNETS."

It's hilarious you keep attacking Monero, the most fairly-launched alt with the best post-Bitcoin technology, yet support dozens of silly shitcoins like DARKNET and EverGreenCoin.

Both CRAVE and CYPHER are pretty promising and there's place for both. If people start claiming one is being than the other then both threads will be flooded with FUD.

CRAVE? LOL.  That's now abandonware.

CYPHER?  LOL.  Also abandoned.

Is there any obviously useless shitcoin you won't pump?  No wonder Monero makes you so jelly.
1075  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market [MODERATED] on: December 30, 2016, 08:25:57 PM
I think this is a coin for the crypto cemetery.

But But But bathrobehero said

Both CRAVE and CYPHER are pretty promising and there's place for both.

#REKT
1076  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CYP] CYPHER [QUBIT][C-CEX - BITTREX - CRYPTSY] ## WE'RE STILL ALIVE ! on: December 30, 2016, 08:25:13 PM

We are alive.

Cypher7A69

well ...

the interpretation of alive is debatable ...

'we' ? ... its just YOU - and no one else ...

we looked cyp a while back and actually had consideration for the backing of it - but since YOU prefer to screw people out of btc and all that is good - WE ( this is plural for more than ONE - in case you didnt know ) decided against working with a tarred coin and tarred dev ...

had you actually been a decent person about it all - 'we' could have done something very big with this project ... but alas - you were not ...

and as such - any and ALL the ideas and money and development has gone into granite ( grn ) instead ...

you will soon see the background work and immense infrastructure we ( cwi ) have built and will be utilizing for the development and support of our coins - and others ...

WE at CWI are alive and growing strong ... YOU have just come back from dead ... a walking zombie ... nothing more ...


But but but bathrobehero told us

Both CRAVE and CYPHER are pretty promising and there's place for both.

Oh wait, neither shitcoin was promising, nor had a place in the crypto ecosystem.   Grin
1077  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Drug free in the Philippines on: December 30, 2016, 07:49:15 PM
We can achieve drug free in the Philippines by killing those people who have serious cases. President Duterte think that this is one main solution to have a drug free and to utilize our country from the criminals. One reason why our country still suffering from poverty.
Fyi duterte did not order police force to kill all those druglords instead he wants them to captured those druglords then put into jail to pay for breaking the laws for illegal drugs. Shootout occurs only when they try to shoots the policemen when in buy bust operation.
That's true president don't ask police man to kill those small time drug dealers but those big time dealers those legal operation they had paper they just fight thats why they getting killed. If they know how to follow the law everything will be fine.

^^^Found the jackboot licking statists.

You guys ignore the incentive created by bounties to make false accusations and kill the falsely accused so they cannot dispute the false accusation.

All your rationalizations of and excuses for Duterte's mass murder boil down to "they were resisting arrest."  As if we've never heard that one before.   Roll Eyes
1078  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [VNL] Vanillacoin, a quiet word of warning. on: December 30, 2016, 06:55:08 PM
gmaxwell apparently reported it to the vanillacoin/vcash developers themselves via a github issue, assuming good faith which would have meant the lack of the required Bitcoin attributions was an honest error. Instead of correcting the error  (which it clearly wasn't), the vanillacoin/vcash developers hid the issue.

As far as I know,no Bitcoin developer has, so far, reported the issue to github itself nor made a takedown request with github on the basis of the license violation and copyright infringement, but they would be within their rights to do so, and will be for the next 50+ years (unless the repo is deleted first).


or John wrote a bunch a code while working through open SSL. And the code that you are refencing came from the work he originally developed..

actually thats probably full tin hat,  more likely Bitcoin Core are a bunch of lame ducks and have no idea who wrote that code in the first place...

1 year later no action(after lead dev G maxwell made that accusation)= not gonna happen.

I think you are right.

Also note that this thread was necro'd because Monero are having a few little issues with John at the moment and they are desperate to shut him down...........

Monero never had a single valid issue reported via John Conner.  And JC managed to shut himself (along with Vtrash) down with no help from gmax/smooth.

But you are still a liar, idiot, and Vcash scam pumper for believing/spreading JC's false XMR zero-day rumor and defending the now provably dishonest/insane Julian Cain rip-off artist.

Good job ceti.  I like it when you drop these nasty little piles of your stupidity for me to eventually rub your face in.   Cheesy
1079  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ENOUGH DASH SPAM ALREADY on: December 30, 2016, 06:25:45 PM
Yep their spam is out of control. Are you even allowed to reply to your own topic over and over without any interest or input from the rest of the board.

Even more annoying is that they are obvious zealots for the instatmined scam coin dash and only ever post about this scam.

Their views and posts are obviously biased to the point of worthless. I mean you don't need to read anything they post. Just buy their scam coins is the blatant message here. They have no interest in anything else in crypto only pumping their dash scam coins.

Not saying they are horrible people but their misplaced enthusiasm for the scam that is dash is oppressive to the board when you have 2 or 3 spamming dash threads running full time of the first page of the main board.

These mini new announcements for enticing honeypot scam features need to be confined to their ANN.

No other coin comes and spams the main board like DASH does.

I feel the only way to put them off if we can not get them banned is to bump all the other threads highlighting their scammy past.

There are 5 or 6 huge threads investigating and fully publishing the proof that is was a scam from the start. These need to be placed back on the first page of the main board and remain there whilst this spamming from tao and qwizzie et al remains.

return to the darkness from whence you came

Spams and scams not welcome here stick to your ANN thread. We're all stocked up on dash scam spam here.

Yes this post is spam and scam heavy - hopefully google will soon just display all the dash threads the moment scam in entered. It is becoming synonymous with spam now not only scam.

You know the DashHole community is 100% worthless scammers because they refuse to self-police the sponsored spam generated and inflicted upon us by their blockchain-funded "Dash Nation" group of try-hards.

On the Dash forum they are honest enough to admit spewing spam into the Internet actually hurts Dash more than it helps (because people hate spam).

But here on BCT DashHoles respond to simple, direct requests for less DashSpam with cutesy passive-aggressive crap like "I love that you love me."

Let's mock their DashSpam thread by creating an equivalent one for *every* active coin, then likewise filling them up with low-value duplicate advertisement posts which are never responded to.

EG, "Zcash Nation Progress Thread" and "Ethereum Nation Progress Thread" and "ICONOMI Nation Progress Thread" etc. will be used to highlight the asinine nature of the Dash Nation Progress Thread until something is done about it.

Asking nicely isn't working, so now we simply hold up a mirror until the point is made and corrective action ensues.   Smiley
1080  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SuperNET trades on Poloniex as UNITY, asset id 12071612744977229797 on: December 30, 2016, 06:06:16 PM
What conditions need to be met b4 unity starts producing dividends?


First we need to finish the platform/framework level of SuperNET, which includes Iguana & Komodo.

How long do you expect will it take?

Two More Years®
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