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1241  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Drug free in the Philippines on: October 23, 2016, 05:30:32 AM
I am routing for a drug free Philippines but I do not know if it can be attained a hundred percent.

Philippines will never be "drug free."

They love their coffee, beer, and cigarettes.

They just single out a the other drugs to demonize and prohibit.

They learned this pious hypocrisy from the Westerners they say they are going to be independent of, yet emulate their worst characteristics.

Yes and that hurt a lot to US lol.
oh yes we can have our drug of choice any moment of the day we love it. but none of the US business anymore. we gotta kill those who use those shabus. there remains those undocumented drugs that you didn't mention like kratom and those juices from san pedro cactus.

Prohibition did hurt the US a lot.  It corrupted our police and politicians.  It set a terrible precedent.  That's why we repealed it.

The War on Drugs continued where it left off.  We've gutted our Constitution's Bill of Rights to an empty shell for the sake of getting "Bad Guys."

One thing Americans and Filipinos have in common is they hate drugs that aren't coffee/beer/tobacco more than they love freedom.

But at least in America we at least make supportive noises about due process, and don't endorse summary executions.

And we have federalism, so the States can legalize pot if they want and tell Washington to fuck off and die.

San Pedro juice?  LOL I guess there are hippies everywhere too!   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
1242  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Drug free in the Philippines on: October 23, 2016, 04:52:39 AM
I am routing for a drug free Philippines but I do not know if it can be attained a hundred percent.

Philippines will never be "drug free."

They love their coffee, beer, and cigarettes.

They just single out a the other drugs to demonize and prohibit.

They learned this pious hypocrisy from the Westerners they say they are going to be independent of, yet emulate their worst characteristics.
1243  Other / Politics & Society / Re: President Duterte announce the seperation in USA on: October 23, 2016, 01:44:08 AM
Do you know cause of his death? That girl is killed by vigilante killings. This person is drug syndicates. It is not the job of police to kill drug pusher without violent resistant. So do you get it now. Before you listen to the news try to verify it if its true or hoax. Some media hates duterte because he is frank.

Yes, I read the articles.  You can stop with the "but muh media bias" excuses.

Dirterte has indicted himself, with his own words:
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Duterte had vowed to keep his "shoot-to-kill" order "until the last day of my term, if I'm still alive by then".

"I don't care about human rights, believe me," he said, according to official transcripts released by the presidential palace.

About 800 people have been killed since Duterte won a landslide election in May, according to reports by the local press, which has been tracking reports of extra-judicial killings.

The poor 5 year old is only one among many victims of the demagogue Dirterte's execution squads.

There are 100s more.

THE KILL LIST
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/794598/kill-list-drugs-duterte

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Editors’ Note: The surge in the killing of suspected criminals since June 30, 2016, has been marked and unmistakable. Most of those killed were identified by the police as suspected drug dealers or pushers (“tulak”). This KILL LIST is an attempt to document the names and other particulars of the casualties in the Duterte administration’s war on crime; it will be updated every Monday and Thursday.

To date, the list includes at least 294 dead who remain unidentified and over 100 who are identified only by an alias; we are seeking other ways to verify identification.

It's amazing you'd rather kill 100s of people than admit drug Prohibition is a terrible failure.

Pardon me in advance for not really caring when the PLA takes over your shitty islands and feeds the rest of you to their pigs.
1244  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Duterte net satisfaction rate in Philippines is very good... on: October 23, 2016, 01:32:33 AM
That ain't real. Its best presented to mediamen. Look however stupid you can be not to comprehend what we are experiencing, you may never understood it.

But Granted that US is indeed keeping their promise to fight for us and If US is willing to die for us, they would have aggressively taking scarborough shoal for the PH but NOOooo. US instead tend to give advice to Aquino to declare war to China, what could have happen if we go war against China?

What we do want instead is to see US do actions and maybe eve before the Chinese created those facilities there in scarborough.

But anyway, if one like you are stupid to understand it then i guess its worth leaving US without an ally here in Southeast.

SEATO isn't real?  The 7th Fleet isn't real?  LMFAO.

Then how did they send the USS Decatur into areas claimed by Red China, and make the Butchers of Beijing raise a fuss about that?

I guess this picture is fake; I guess the USS Decatur "ain't real."   Grin Grin Grin Grin


I figured it out.  You are delusional, not just dishonest and/or ignorant.  Better cut back on the shabu!   Wink

Sorry, but the USA isn't going to start WW3 over Scarborough Shoal without exhausting every other possible solution.

I understand you have very high time preferences, being very impatient and wanting everything Right Now.

But that's not how Anglo Saxon culture works.  We have low time preferences, which is why we are superior and run things the way we see fit, no matter the whining from the primitive headhunting natives.

And don't worry about the USA being "without an ally here in Southeast."

Despite past conflict, we are getting very friendly with Vietnam, a nation that knows what it's like to fight the PLA (AND WIN!).

Perhaps that's a lesson the fat, lazy ingrates in .ph need to learn for themselves....
1245  Other / Politics & Society / Re: President Duterte announce the seperation in USA on: October 23, 2016, 01:09:12 AM
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/22/philippines-duterte-says-didnt-really-mean-separation-from-us.html

"It is not severance of ties. When you say severance of ties, you cut diplomatic relations. I cannot do that," the Philippine leader told reporters at a midnight news conference in his southern home city of Davao.

"It's in the best interest of my countrymen to maintain that relationship."

In other words, Duterte was just acting as Red China's attack dog, barking wildly at the USA on behalf of his PLA Commie masters.

But his bark is worse than his bite; he has no intention of actually biting the hand that literally feeds his country when disaster strikes.

What a drama queen.   Roll Eyes  What a loud-mouth demagogue.   Roll Eyes

I actually like it when he makes entertaining insults at Obama, but he crossed the line when he disrespects the sacrifices made by soldiers from both countries to keep .ph free and allied.

Haha do you where did this started? You are idiot. The American is the one who started the fire. Duterte is just depending himself for the good of all filipino. Do not want to others what you do not want unto you. That his basic principles in life. You guys are too malice. Creating imagination which destroy the man's reputation.

How did America "start the fire?"  By (twice!) giving, at great cost in blood and treasure, the Philippines sovereignty?

Please explain how labeling street children "drug addicts" and slaughtering them en masse is following the Golden Rule.

Oh that's right, you can't.

We are judged by how we treat the weakest among us, and Dirterte's society will be judged very harshly for their unforgivable aggression against the poor, hopeless victims of drug Prohibition.

Philippine Government’s ‘War on Drugs’ Claims Child Victim
Justice Secretary Defends Killing Suspected Drug Dealers, Users
https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/08/25/philippine-governments-war-drugs-claims-child-victim

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Five-year-old Danica May became the youngest reported victim of the Philippine government’s abusive “war on drugs” on Tuesday.


The kindergarten student died from a gunshot wound to the head after an unidentified gunman opened fire on her grandfather, Maximo Garcia, as the family sat down to lunch. The attack came just three days after Garcia had registered with local police, who suspected his involvement in the drug trade. Garcia had said he wasn’t.
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"A society will be judged on the basis of how it treats its weakest members"
   
~Pope John Paul II

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"...the moral test of government is how that government treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the elderly; those who are in the shadows of life; the sick, the needy and the handicapped. "
~Last Speech of Hubert H. Humphrey

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"Any society, any nation, is judged on the basis of how it treats its weakest members -- the last, the least, the littlest."
~Cardinal Roger Mahony

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"A decent provision for the poor is the true test of civilization."
~Samuel Johnson
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"The measure of a society is found in how they treat their weakest and most helpless citizens. As Americans, we are blessed with circumstances that protect our human rights and our religious freedom, but for many people around the world, deprivation and persecution have become a way of life."
~James Earl "Jimmy" Carter, Jr.

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"A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members."
~ Mahatma Ghandi

‘I don’t give a sh*t about human rights’ - President Duterte

According to The Holy Father, Pres. Carter, Ghandi, etc., Dirterte's Philippines is perhaps the shittiest, most awfull society that has ever existed.
1246  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Drug free in the Philippines on: October 23, 2016, 12:49:33 AM
So long as a dictator gets to make PHilippines a better livable place, its going to be an easy comfort for the people.

 Libya and Iraq use to have a dictator that made their country before US supported some rebs doing skirmish attacks like what they are currently doing in Syria.

Really?  Is "The Ends Justify The Means" your final answer?

Ok sure, a strongman will provide additional stability in rough neighborhoods like the Middle East and SE Asia.  Especially when the Muslim hordes are on the jihad.

But that's exactly the short term thinking that causes trouble in the long run.

Dictatorships are brittle because of their single point of failure.

And what happens when Dear Leader dies?

Perhaps a peaceful transition to his oldest son (like the Kings of yore).

Or perhaps a power vacuum, with consequences worse than the initial benefit.

Why not give freedom a chance?

Ending drug Prohibition would take out a major source of funding for Abu Sayyaf.

Cite: http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/30/meet-shabu-the-drug-fueling-islamic-extremism/

But that would mean Dirtarte and his moralizing supporters would have to admit being wrong, and their giant, virtue-signaling egos won't allow that.   Angry

And let's be honest, the .ph gov't has been looking for a way to demonize and justify liquidating the street children for a long time.

Because if the Pope sees them, he might think Filipinos aren't good Christians.  Better to slaughter the miserable orphans so they don't distrub His Holiness (and the tourists).
1247  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: October 23, 2016, 12:32:54 AM
Are resources limited, scarce?  Or nearly unlimited?  Is the planet fragile or robust?

Simons presented clear, convincing arguments as to why resources were nearly unlimited.  Erlich argued that resources were limited, and that this would result in massive near term starvation.  We know who was right, of course.

It's also true that many of Erlich's arguments are being repackaged in the form of Global Warming Hysteria.

Right you are.   Smiley

Just as Malthus failed to anticipate tractors, Ehrlich failed to anticipate the substitution effect.

Simon's key insight is how human intelligence-driven innovation ("The Ultimate Resource") provides unlimited fuel for the substitution effect.

Today, the ManBearPig hysterics are similarly misguided by simplistic linear thinking, as they fail to account for phenomena such as emergent properties, hidden variables, and disruptive metasystem transitions.
1248  Other / Off-topic / Re: TV Series Recommendations... on: October 23, 2016, 12:23:01 AM
Penny Dreadful is good fun.  Eva Green is yummers in period dress....  Tongue Tongue Tongue
1249  Other / Politics & Society / Re: President Duterte announce the seperation in USA on: October 23, 2016, 12:11:16 AM
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/22/philippines-duterte-says-didnt-really-mean-separation-from-us.html

"It is not severance of ties. When you say severance of ties, you cut diplomatic relations. I cannot do that," the Philippine leader told reporters at a midnight news conference in his southern home city of Davao.

"It's in the best interest of my countrymen to maintain that relationship."

In other words, Duterte was just acting as Red China's attack dog, barking wildly at the USA on behalf of his PLA Commie masters.

But his bark is worse than his bite; he has no intention of actually biting the hand that literally feeds his country when disaster strikes.

What a drama queen.   Roll Eyes  What a loud-mouth demagogue.   Roll Eyes

I actually like it when he makes entertaining insults at Obama, but he crossed the line when he disrespects the sacrifices made by soldiers from both countries to keep .ph free and allied.
1250  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 22, 2016, 11:52:39 PM
Polo had a bug... I just tried to set bids for NRG (he likes to get my money and buy something nice to him) but it ended up market buying despite I set the price below the spot...  Huh

Always reload the page before you buy/sell on Polo.  /pro tip



Looks like it works. Now I was able to set the bids at the prices I am willing to take from the dumpers.
I wonder how come Poloniex is such a clumsy site to trade. It takes almost eternity to set orders to the markets.

I believe the 'lag accumulation' effect seen on Polo is the result of the site (and trading engine) being behind a CDN (Cloudflare) and reverse proxies.

Polo used to be even slower, and it would crash muh browsers after a few minutes or hours (after bloating RAM use to >1GB).   Cheesy
1251  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Drug free in the Philippines on: October 22, 2016, 11:22:55 AM
Man you dont know what is the attitude of the person in this world some person want to destroy him for their own interest. As you can see in the situation the president is a victim of this kind of person in both US and China. US to probed against human rights violation but US is the one who massacred middle east double standard. And china which occupies the west philippine sea. So who is the victim after all its philippines. Am i right? People hide from the curtain to destroy man's reputation to get that they are the who is stronger but they are the one who is weak. They use money to manipulate others. This person is fair. He is never been a corrupt person look what his done in his city. Do not want to others what you do not want unto you. Thats all. Then who is the VICTIM?

That's right, pretend Duterte is the VICTIM here.   Roll Eyes

Oh wait, Duterte is a bully and a thug who has victimized 1000s of people including many homeless kids.

He is corrupt because he breaks the laws that he took an Oath of Office to uphold and defend.

The VICTIMS here are the most vulnerable people in the world, the street children who are being demonized as "drug addicts" and hunted down to be slaughtered like animals.

I'm sure it's all some kind of giant conspiracy to get poor little Duterte.   Roll Eyes

I'm sure Obama forced Duterte to unleash vigilantes on the poorest, most wretched and defenseless people on the planet.   Roll Eyes

It's not like Duterte fits the definition of "demagogue" to a tee.

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A demagogue or rabble-rouser is a leader in a democracy who gains popularity by exploiting prejudice and ignorance among the common people, whipping up the passions of the crowd and shutting down reasoned deliberation. Demagogues have usually advocated immediate, violent action to address a national crisis while accusing moderate and thoughtful opponents of weakness or disloyalty. Demagogues violate established rules of political conduct; most who were elected to high office changed their democracy into some form of dictatorship.

Did Duterte "gain popularity by exploiting prejudice and ignorance among the common people, whipping up the passions of the crowd and shutting down reasoned deliberation?"
YES HE DID.

Did Duterte "advocate immediate, violent action to address a national crisis while accusing moderate and thoughtful opponents of weakness or disloyalty?"
OH FUCK YES HE DID.

Did Duterte "violate established rules of political conduct?"
Again, check and double check.

That's very conclusive evidence Duterte fits the definition of a demagogue.

You only defend him because of your prejudice and ignorance.  When he turns full dictator and it all goes totally Venezuela, good luck with that and don't say nobody warned you.   Wink

1252  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Duterte net satisfaction rate in Philippines is very good... on: October 22, 2016, 11:08:25 AM
US didn't chose a side at all. Any agreement between US and Philippines never mention anything about fighting to defend us. They are all vague and no one is willing to die for us and thise military excercises are just crazy shit. The US sold us some planes without missles, military excercises allow us to use US weapons but were never given to Us. Ain't that shit?

West ph sea is our to burn.

I still can't tell if you are intentionally dishonest or just very stupid.   Huh

Either way, you ignore the existence of the Asiatic Fleet, the purpose of which was to defend the Philippines.

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The United States Asiatic Fleet was a fleet of the United States Navy during much of the first half of the 20th century. Preceding the World War II era, until 1942, the fleet protected the Philippine Islands. Much of the fleet was destroyed by February of that year, after which it was dissolved and incorporated into the naval component of the Southwest Pacific Area command, which eventually became the 7th Fleet.

How many more thousands of Americans must die defending and liberating the Philippines before you are satisfied we are willing to die for that cause?  How many more millions of American taxpayer dollars must be spent before you display a hint of gratitude? 

No agreement defense between the US and .ph?  Who you kidding, you ignorant prig?

Go back to school you whining crybaby.

Southeast Asia Treaty Organization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asia_Treaty_Organization

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The Southeast Asia Treaty Organization (SEATO) was an international organization for collective defense in Southeast Asia created by the Southeast Asia Collective Defense Treaty, or Manila Pact, signed in September 1954 in Manila, Philippines. The formal institution of SEATO was established on 19 February 1955 at a meeting of treaty partners in Bangkok, Thailand [1] The organization's headquarters were also in Bangkok. Eight members joined the organization.

Primarily created to block further communist gains in Southeast Asia, SEATO is generally considered a failure because internal conflict and dispute hindered general use of the SEATO military; however, SEATO-funded cultural and educational programs left long-standing effects in Southeast Asia. SEATO was dissolved on 30 June 1977 after many members lost interest and withdrew.

The United States still considers the mutual defense aspects of its treaty active for Australia, France, New Zealand, Philippines, Thailand, and the United Kingdom.
1253  Other / Politics & Society / Re: President Duterte announce the seperation in USA on: October 22, 2016, 05:33:37 AM
Yeah its also a tiresome accusation to our president.
Accusations and accusations however true that is, we call it quits now.

We now have all the ooportunities with China, russia and possibly the rest like japan. We can take US out of the picture. Go on with your life now. Theres more ahead of you. Cheesy

Under Duterte, the Philippines has the opportunity to be Red China's lap dog at best, or reduced to Lebensraum at worst.

You can't take the USA out of the picture.  As soon as there is another disaster, we will again demonstrate our indispensability.

Is Duterte going to remove the PLA from Scarborough Shoal himself, using only the sheer power of his giant ego?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Sorry, but machismo alone will not stop Red China from continuing to annex Filipino territory.

Duterte is a really tough guy when he's hunting down hapless street children, but is a paper tiger when it comes to stopping the PLA Navy from having its way with their Nine Dash Line.

I can't believe you are so gullible as to believe the PLA will stop their expansion at Scarborough Shoal.  Didn't you see what they did in Tibet?
1254  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Drug free in the Philippines on: October 22, 2016, 05:21:40 AM

"Sorry kids.  You never had a chance in life and now must die as sacrifices to the God of The State and the Idol of Prohibition."

And these people savages dare to call themselves Christian.  How many shabu addicted minors would Jesus murder, for the sake of overturning the laws of economics via Prohibition?




Just wait duterte is now getting money to have drug rehab center by state visit on several country all over the world. He is making this to have good economy, education and health for his country because he loves his country more than himself. This president is a fair person which want fair law all over the world.

Finally, a seemingly reasonable post from you.

But you can't rehabilitate those murdered in the name of Prohibition by vigilantes, under the blessing of the president.

That's why Duterte is not a "fair person."  He obviously loves the demagogic opportunities of Prohibition (and panda cuddling) more than his country.

There is never enough money to repeal the laws of economics and undo the harm done by State violence.  It is futile hubris to try and fix the economy/education/health in the context of Prohibition.

In case English is your 2nd language, let me explain what is meant by "demagogic."

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A demagogue or rabble-rouser is a leader in a democracy who gains popularity by exploiting prejudice and ignorance among the common people, whipping up the passions of the crowd and shutting down reasoned deliberation. Demagogues have usually advocated immediate, violent action to address a national crisis while accusing moderate and thoughtful opponents of weakness or disloyalty. Demagogues violate established rules of political conduct; most who were elected to high office changed their democracy into some form of dictatorship.
1255  Other / Politics & Society / Re: President Duterte announce the seperation in USA on: October 22, 2016, 05:11:40 AM
OMG, who the hell cares. Enough about this guy. Are the majority of users here from the Philippines or something?

The majority of users here depend on the free trade passing through the South China Sea, and have an overwhelming interest in avoiding WW3.

That the practical matter.

The moral matter is that this asshole has escalated Drug Prohibition to the level where he's sicking vigilantes on the most helpless miserable people on Earth, the street children who are often both dealers and addicts of drugs which are (unforgivably) not coffee, alcohol, or tobacco.

Any other questions?  I'm here to help.   Tongue

yeah fair enough right? US is raping us while thy try to feed. Fair?
What do US care about the killings here. Mind what US currently murdering in Syria. And those you murder in black cities.

Yet another tiresome, deflective accusation of hypocrisy.  It's like you are incapable of understanding tu quoque is a logical fallacy.   Roll Eyes

The US has paid for in blood and treasure, then given .ph its sovereignty twice.  First in 1935 (Commonwealth) and again in 1946 (Treaty of Manila).

Your appeal to emotion ("raping us" "murder in black cities") has no power here, because we are not superstitious ignorant savages like the supporters of Duterte.

But if you want to go there, the facts speak for themselves.

February 1945: The Rape of Manila
http://globalnation.inquirer.net/99054/february-1945-the-rape-of-manila

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To this day, much is heard of the Rape of Nanking when the rampaging Japanese Imperial Army killed 300,000 from 1937 to 1938, and raped 20,000 women in that Chinese capital.

Pitifully few, though, in the Philippines and even fewer elsewhere, know that in Manila, in February 1945, World War II at its agonizing climax brought forth 100,000 burned, bayoneted, bombed, shelled and shrapneled dead in the span of 28 days.  Unborn babies ripped from their mothers’ wombs provided sport: thrown up in the air and caught, impaled on bayonet tips.

With rape on the streets and everywhere else, the Bayview Hotel became Manila’s rape center.  After the dirty deed was done, nipples were sliced off, and bodies bayoneted open from the neck down.

William Manchester in his book “American Caesar,” wrote that “Once Rear Adm. Sanji Iwabuchi had decided to defend Manila, the atrocities began, and the longer the battle raged,  the more the Japanese command structure deteriorated, until the uniforms of Nipponese sailors and marines were saturated with Filipino blood.

“The devastation of Manila was one of the great tragedies of World War II.  Seventy percent of the utilities, 72 percent of the factories, 80 percent of the southern residential district, and 100 percent of the business district were razed…Hospitals were set afire after their patients had been strapped to their beds.  The corpses of males were mutilated, females of all ages were raped before they were slain, and babies’ eyeballs gouged out and smeared on walls like jelly.”

Annually in February, a day is set aside to remember at the Memorare monument in Intramuros.


Filipinas raped by Japanese WWII troops seek compensation
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2016/1/6/filipino-women-raped-by-japanese-wwii-troops-seek-compensation.html

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A group of elderly Filipinas raped by Japanese troops during World War II called for compensation from Japan on Wednesday, after Tokyo’s pledge of $8.3 million for South Korean women forced into Japanese military-run brothels during the war.

Isabelita Vinuya, 84, the president of Malaya Lolas — a group of Filipinas abducted and raped by Japanese troops in their village — urged the Philippine government to support their demand for justice from Japan.

1256  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: October 22, 2016, 04:14:23 AM
....
Why would I discuss something irrelevant that I said I know almost nothing about?  You only have passing discussions about someone's schizo obsessions, you don't spend a lot of time delving into it with them, yanno?

This debate happened between 2 individuals decades ago. ....
Because Erlich was a major, popular writer.  Book for example, The Population Bomb.

He was yesterday's alarmist,just as you are one of today's alarmists.

And he was wrong in everything he said.

As you could well be.

He was a single author.

He is but 1 person. This consensus amongst scientists is far far beyond that.  (Apparently not "solar scientists" - apparently)

Anyway, it is a huge logical fallacy to equate one guy who wrote a book (however popular) one with global warming because he was an alarmist.

I did google the book a bit.  I'm not sure how he calculated we'd be out of food in the 70s or 80s. We can take on a ton of population by just switching to vegetarian based diets. The level of knowledge in that area 50 years ago must have been horrendous.

btw - Not only could I be wrong, I actively hope to be wrong. I just look and never see evidence or arguments that strike me as compelling.

Wrong again.  Paul's wife Anne (also of Stanford) co-wrote the Population Bomb.  I know because I've read it (and the sequels).

The first time I read TPB I was a child and taken in by their catastrophism.  Later as a young adult aware of Julian Simon I reread it and found their "ZOMG TEH END OF TEH WORLD IS COMING SOOOON!!1!!!1" panic inducement to be quite hilarious.

The Ehrlichs and Simon are emblematic of the neomalthusian vs extropian conflict.  Their famous Bet is famous because it served as a microcosm of the widespread intellectual disagreement.  I love your sour grapes excuses for why Ehrlich lost and Simon won.  Such a sore loser you are.  Typical, but 20 years too late.   Wink

You are trying to tell people who have studied and debated both sides of these issues for decades that your N00B ignorance makes your opinion superior.

Sorry my precious dear millennial snowflake, but that's not how it works.   Grin
1257  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The USA will explode by trying to contain China... on: October 22, 2016, 03:56:51 AM
As the highest priority of all Chinese leaders since the beginning of time has always been to align decisions with the understood Will of the Tao.

Hello, Taoist sympathizer here.

You are gravely mistaken.  The authoritarian Communist Party of China, with its central planning and top-down power structure, is the antithesis of Taoism.

You are confusing Taoism, which is libertarian in nature, with Confucianism, which emphasizes rigid adherence to rules and regulations.

That mistake caused 100 million Chinese to starve when the crops failed due to the inefficiencies inherent in totalitarian command and control agricultural policies.

You cannot force the invisible hand of the market.  It is an emergent property beyond the control of dictators and bureaucrats.

A Taoist intuitively understands that fact without effort, while a Confucian struggles forever to grasp that there are limits to State power.

It would be wonderful if China were indeed Taoist, but the wicked, greedy, cruel Confucians drove them from the halls of power long ago.

Do you need me to tell you that sad, tragic story also?  I'm here to help.    Undecided
1258  Other / Politics & Society / Re: President Duterte announce the seperation in USA on: October 22, 2016, 03:45:36 AM
OMG, who the hell cares. Enough about this guy. Are the majority of users here from the Philippines or something?

The majority of users here depend on the free trade passing through the South China Sea, and have an overwhelming interest in avoiding WW3.

That the practical matter.

The moral matter is that this asshole has escalated Drug Prohibition to the level where he's sicking vigilantes on the most helpless miserable people on Earth, the street children who are often both dealers and addicts of drugs which are (unforgivably) not coffee, alcohol, or tobacco.

Any other questions?  I'm here to help.   Tongue
1259  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Duterte net satisfaction rate in Philippines is very good... on: October 22, 2016, 03:38:51 AM
If the US can chose a side between China and Philippines they should have done it but the cowards can't. And this isn't propaganda as you thought. US can't win vs China.

The US did choose a side.  Are you lying intentionally or just extremely ignorant?   Huh

Game changer: America vs China in the West Philippine Sea
October 28, 2015
http://www.rappler.com/thought-leaders/110843-america-china-west-philippine-sea

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After hesitating for years, the United States has finally decided to openly challenge China in the West Philippine Sea, deploying destroyers into the 12 nautical miles radius of Chinese-occupied land features in the area.

Given the massive power asymmetry between China and its smaller neighbors, only the United States has the wherewithal to challenge Beijing’s unremitting quest for maritime dominance in East Asia. And to the delight of its Asian allies, particularly the Philippines and Japan, the Obama administration is finally drawing a line in the sand

Like never before, America is directly challenging China’s sovereignty claims in the area, even if this carries the risk of heightened Sino-American tensions ahead of the APEC and ASEAN summits next month, if not potential clashes between American and Chinese armed forces. No less than the future of the Asian order hangs in the balance.

Refusing to acknowledge China’s sovereignty claims over artificially-created islands in the area, the United States Navy’s (USN) guided-missile destroyer (USS Lassen) has pierced into the 12 nautical miles radius of Beijing-occupied land features on a regular basis

On paper, the United States professes neutrality on the sovereignty claims of competing claimant states in the South China Sea. But its recent decision to conduct freedom of navigations operations – deploying surveillance vessels and possibly even reconnaissance aircrafts – within the 12 nautical miles radius of China’s artificially-created islands represents a de facto rebuke of China’s territorial claims in the area.

But don't worry, the US will keep .ph safe so you and Duterte may continue to be ungrateful traitorous murderous pieces of shit.

The US is decades ahead of China in strategic weaponry.  Any serious escalation in the West Philippine Sea would result in the PLA getting rekt beyond recovery.

Even the Butchers of Beijing are not so stupid as to cause their 10,000 year old civilization to be burned into moonscape by a brief moment of nuclear hellfire.  The US Navy can do that with one carrier strike group.  Do you even know what the 7th Fleet is, bro?

https://www.quora.com/How-powerful-is-a-US-Navy-carrier-strike-group-compared-to-other-navies

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How powerful is a US Navy carrier strike group compared to other navies?
I heard that a deployed CSG is more powerful than most (or maybe all) other countries entire navies. Is this true? How would one measure this?


Kirish Raj, Information Security Analyst by profession. Military & Foreign Policy watcher.
Written 16 Jul 2014

The first thing to understand about U.S. aircraft carriers is that they are very big and very well defended.  They displace ~100,000 tons of water, making them the biggest warships ever constructed, and their four-acre decks hold dozens of multi-role fighters superior to anything operated by Russia/China’s air force or navy.  They typically are escorted by cruisers or destroyers carrying the Aegis combat system — the world’s most sophisticated air defense system — and nuclear-powered attack submarines.  Since the carriers themselves are nuclear-powered, they are always moving and unconstrained by logistical needs.

Loring Chien
Loring Chien, engineer, technologist and naval enthusiast
Written Nov 19, 2014

China, India are just beginning to play with carriers - they are in a developmental stage and not capable of on-demand performance for delivering strategic air power.
 
Given then that only the US, Russia and maybe France could deliver nuclear weapons via CSG then that answers the question, is a USN CSG more powerful than MOST other countries' entire navy and the answer is yes.

Given that the USN operational performance levels are probably higher than and we have 10 strategic carriers vs one for France and one for Russia, its also true that the USN CSG is at least as powerful as any other navy if not more so.
1260  Other / Politics & Society / Re: President Duterte announce the seperation in USA on: October 22, 2016, 02:56:49 AM

Of all news sites, you believe yahoo news?

US is butthurt  Grin what US can do now is get out of Syria for the country to be independent else fight Russia.
Philippines is too far from US and the reality is that US can't help but if they are too butthurt, they can declare war with China.

Yes it is remarkably unusual to find such great content in the infamously noisy Yahoo msg boards!   Cheesy

But you fail to specify which facts and conclusions the Yahoo posters got wrong; you merely shoot the messenger by insinuating they are not trustworthy.

The Philippines wasn't too far from the USA when we liberated it from the Spanish, nor when we again liberated it from the Japanese, nor when we kept it safe from the PLA.

You are butthurt because you feel Entitled to bite the hand that feeds you and kill defenseless, wretched street children because they succumbed to the horrors of Prohibition.

And now for the coup de grace, again courtesy of WrathOfGnon....


#REKT   Wink
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