1 exchange is more than enough. We can work on something else.
Personally, i've contacted a great number of shops (don't remember how many) but few replies and other says that we don't have a great volume to be considered. Seems that PMC is not an interesting coin. Yesterday i've tried to contact some games' developers to have a games with pmc advertising in but till now no one reply me. We need more people involved in this coin, this is the only important thing now. More people more volume but how we can do ? We can't really give anymore away as we are all sort of tapped out... best advertising would be a rising price in Poloniex... forget PAY voting to be added to an exchange, lets just buy PMC.... seriously... we need a coordinated effort with people who are interesting in buying but NOT dumping... ( we need those people too, but not us ) Then watch the price rise... kbroadfoot was late to the game in PMC, but he has been an active supporter of the community, and shown himself to be a believer in the concept of PMC. He clearly shows all of the signs of being a long-term holder, and his continued contributions and efforts have been a benefit to Premine. Which is why I've just sent him 200 PMC. Probably one of the easiest decisions I've had to make recently on how to invest the PMC I have set aside for future development and promotion of the coin. You deserve it, kbroadfoot. He can verify the transaction when he's next online. I have no reservations in rewarding those who work hard for the community. |
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Yeah, the biggest problem is the devs obviously have the premine, so without the genesis block any fork would mean we'd still esentially be doing the work for them to dump if they have no interest in the coin.
The only other alternative is to just take the source and re-release the coin, and make it a community-based coin. Start over. Maybe some sort of scheme to verify your Cash coin holdings to receive that amount of the new coin. That way nobody loses any coins, and the developers won't have any premine of the new coin.
Unless there's a way to fork the coin right after the genesis block/pre-mine and ensure everyone except the devs can just use their cashcoin wallet and copy it over to the new coin and carry on as normal with the new coin.
Uh, would you mind pointing me in the direction of all this pre-mine you're talking about? Not so much pre-mined but rapidly mined with 100 coins per block, ended up with 13k in the first day :| Well, if it wasn't instamined by the devs, then the coin can just be forked from this point onwards and taken over. No issue there. Not that I am saying this should happen. Not unless it has overwhelming community support. |
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The same idea is already on other coin distribution by miners & bag holders for promoting isn't showing nothing new on the market . It's only bring more bag holders that needs too have a heart  flash news . People will lose interest on your coins and you will stay with your bags and look into the sun with it . Don't like my attitude no my problem , that's totally yours . I don't like the distribution . Happy not distributing and acting like an elitist community you can keep that nobody will want it . Translation: the coin is bad because the community won't give me a big bagful now that I'm totally late to the party and PMC is worth a lot of BTC.That's it act like a true bag holder keep with the teeth on them ....just look how small is buy part vs sell . You going too lose this race fast .  or experiment . Yes , you feel powerful now ?  make me laugh . Now i get the concept thanks for showing me the tour . The good guys already soften me out from entrance but you and that other guy .....damn  nasty b**** and i bet this coin got many as you and that will make it even worst . I'm putting you on ignore now. You've shown yourself just to be an ignorant newbie who expects handouts and something-for-nothing. You have no understanding of PMC or basic economics. The first thing you did today when entering the thread is accuse the community of being greedy. If anyone here has shown their true colours. It is you. Bye now. |
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The same idea is already on other coin distribution by miners & bag holders for promoting isn't showing nothing new on the market . It's only bring more bag holders that needs too have a heart flash news . People will lose interest on your coins and you will stay with your bags and look into the sun with it . Don't like my attitude no my problem , that's totally yours . I don't like the distribution . Happy not distributing and acting like an elitist community you can keep that nobody will want it . Translation: the coin is bad because the community won't give me a big bagful now that I'm totally late to the party and PMC is worth a lot of BTC.The reason people aren't giving out big bagfuls isn't because they don't want to, but because it will just get dumped.It's exactly what you are complaining about that people here are trying to avoid. Hundreds of PMC was given out on Poloniex recently and people just dumped it for BTC. If I gave someone 1000 PMC now, what's to stop them just dumping it for BTC? Nothing. That's why. Like I said, you don't get PMC, so maybe you should move on to something else. |
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You come out of no where, criticising PMC, saying it's this and it's that, without any understanding of the coin and expect people to give you handouts?
With such a total lack of understanding of PMC, I won't be giving you any. Maybe come back when you actually understand what the hell it is you're actually talking about. There was no IPO. No "under-the-counter" buying. There's no BTC bag holders here pumping the price either.
It's only unfair to you because you weren't here from the start. There's no such thing as fair distribution. It doesn't exist. But PMCs distribution has a damn sight fairer than many other coins, and the community has been extremely generous. I'm giving away PMC 24/7 to network miners. Others have bought in and then given coins away. You'll never find a community as generous as PMC, and you come here accusing us of being crooks.
You talk about fair? What do you deserve? Where were you when PMC was worthless and had no price at all?
Yes you feel offended . What you got 1k of PMC and you really feel offended . I understand you little bag holder . No problem don't come and bark at me . I posted before and it seems so empty of content around here just the same old guys so now i decided too post address so test concept and see how is community . I tested the water and i totally start too dislike the distribution now i took a close look on cryptorush and the SELL/BUY orders wow people are having on sell thousands on HIGH amounts of PMC , expect too get rich from this "fair"distribution . I can see how it works . 2500 PMC it's selling for 2BTC very nice fairness & distribution . Sorry dude, i'm looking that you wrote on Faircoin too. Do you think that that distribution was more fair ? Be sufficient to have more virtual machines running and the distribution is unfair.
Yeah another copy-cat after this "fairness" only that was downloaded by chinese from QQ groups that have 1000 users each . lol . Bag holder? I've given out a lot of coins. I'm giving out coins right now, infact. Look back through the thread. I've never seen you here before until now. If you actually came here saying you were interested in the concept and actually had something positive to say I would have had no problem giving you PMC. But the first thing you did here was come and accuse people of being greedy.Of course I'm not going to give you any. Who do you think you are you? You come into this thread insulting people and expect them to give you PMC? I can see what kind of person you are . And when i started too understand a bit and wanted too ask more about it . I sent you all the PMC i got from community enjoy them little greedy person . Keep your PMC's i don't need them and take mine too make a bath in them and enjoy . This is exactly what i was saying snobby people like you that think they own the community , that's not fair , that dosent give you the right too treat new people that are concerned about the health of this concept and other people invesment . Also I don't think when other owns thousands and hundreds of coins and 50 % of them not even got 1 , it's sad , it's fail and far from fairness and thanks for the guys who sent me those 7 PMC i understand by what you stand and it's very beautiful too be fair and distribute and help others around globe i love that idea , but not the greedy bag holders idea that suppose too kinda like guardians of community and share those coins , that's not fair clearly . You've been here all of 5 minutes and claim to not only understand PMC, but me as well? There's no point talking to you. Take your PMC, dump it, and move on. I've been supporting PMC from the start, and I have put a lot of time and effort into it. Then you come along and accuse everyone of being greedy bag holders. The only person you have to blame here is yourself. I have no problem giving coins to people who help the community, but not to people who think they can get coins by calling me and others greedy. If you don't like the coin, then leave. I don't have the time for people with such a horrible attitude to others. This community has worked so hard on PMC. You just insult it. |
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It 404's when trying to actually download the .exe(the link to the page works). The github link worked when I tried it last (gotta click the download zip on the bottom right). In that case I'd be happy to see a community takeover if the dev has moved on. Only because Cash didn't "go to do Moon" like all the pumpers and dumpers hoped does not mean it is a bad coin.
I'm up for a community take over but there's a lot of work to do without the passwords, servers accesses and such. I don't KNOW much about the workings of a coin on the dev side yet, from what I can tell so far we'll need: POTENTIALLY a hard fork to gain control to allow A new checkpoint server New wallet release to point to the new checkpoint and pick up chain (if fork required) New website New twitter, FB etc New thread for correct OP (or an admin to transfer privs to the community) A group of community reps responsible for all the stuff Coin devs to handle that stuff (don't believe we have one here) A lot of CASH to pay for stuff and people who believe in the coin enough to accept CASH (only pay in CASH, will ensure top quality work as their reward will be increased as it'll be reflected in the CASH price). I'm sure that can be arranged. There are a few of us who hold quite a bit and without development of this coin, it'll all be worth didily squat as trying to sell 10k will crash the price and completely kill the coin as is). Would be great to switch this awesome coin to community development which IMO is superior to it being in the hands of a small team that can disapear (will have to ensure more than one person has passwords and such). The problem I see though is that they'll be a clone of this soon (probably already) which will have pre-mine and be able to pay for dev teams and giveaways leaving us high and dry. Yeah, the biggest problem is the devs obviously have the premine, so without the genesis block any fork would mean we'd still esentially be doing the work for them to dump if they have no interest in the coin. The only other alternative is to just take the source and re-release the coin, and make it a community-based coin. Start over. Maybe some sort of scheme to verify your Cash coin holdings to receive that amount of the new coin. That way nobody loses any coins, and the developers won't have any premine of the new coin. Unless there's a way to fork the coin right after the genesis block/pre-mine and ensure everyone except the devs can just use their cashcoin wallet and copy it over to the new coin and carry on as normal with the new coin. |
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You come out of no where, criticising PMC, saying it's this and it's that, without any understanding of the coin and expect people to give you handouts?
With such a total lack of understanding of PMC, I won't be giving you any. Maybe come back when you actually understand what the hell it is you're actually talking about. There was no IPO. No "under-the-counter" buying. There's no BTC bag holders here pumping the price either.
It's only unfair to you because you weren't here from the start. There's no such thing as fair distribution. It doesn't exist. But PMCs distribution has a damn sight fairer than many other coins, and the community has been extremely generous. I'm giving away PMC 24/7 to network miners. Others have bought in and then given coins away. You'll never find a community as generous as PMC, and you come here accusing us of being crooks.
You talk about fair? What do you deserve? Where were you when PMC was worthless and had no price at all?
Yes you feel offended . What you got 1k of PMC and you really feel offended . I understand you little bag holder . No problem don't come and bark at me . I posted before and it seems so empty of content around here just the same old guys so now i decided too post address so test concept and see how is community . I tested the water and i totally start too dislike the distribution now i took a close look on cryptorush and the SELL/BUY orders wow people are having on sell thousands on HIGH amounts of PMC , expect too get rich from this "fair"distribution . I can see how it works . 2500 PMC it's selling for 2BTC very nice fairness & distribution . Sorry dude, i'm looking that you wrote on Faircoin too. Do you think that that distribution was more fair ? Be sufficient to have more virtual machines running and the distribution is unfair.
Yeah another copy-cat after this "fairness" only that was downloaded by chinese from QQ groups that have 1000 users each . lol . Bag holder? I've given out a lot of coins. I'm giving out coins right now, infact. Look back through the thread. I've never seen you here before until now. If you actually came here saying you were interested in the concept and actually had something positive to say I would have had no problem giving you PMC. But the first thing you did here was come and accuse people of being greedy.Of course I'm not going to give you any. Who do you think you are? You come into this thread insulting people and expect them to give you PMC? Maybe if you didn't come here and start insulting the community you would have received a share. |
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So where is distribution . You make some people rich in hope that they will distribute . I dint got any but i guess i will get something like 0.000002 BTC or 0.00003 or something like that so much FAIR DISTRIBUTION i only feel that this guy with Bobby as avatar has a good intend and the idea too share but now all are horded by DEV & other big BTC bag holders waiting for fish too bite i guess . Classic Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Ill post my address . From 498.999 let me think that is like if you send 1 COIN to everyone it makes sense . But if you send bags too a handful it really sucks cause that's not good at all for market health . P.S : I just saw this list : http://blockchain.premineco.in/wallet/index.php?min=1 wow it's awful man . Seriously ? 38720 PMC , and a lot of 15-10 k holders then 9k-1k a lot more too . What is going on , where is FAIR DISTRIBUTION? 1M2dYtTSJy8ZKAkJ4fjfUFCd32ppUzu6kS I don't think you understand PMC. The Dev gave all the coins away. The only coins now he holds are the ones he bought himself from the exchange. Here's a friendly tip; if you want people to give you some PMC, don't accuse them of being greedy bag holders. The greedy bag holders are the only ones who haven't given away a single coin. This community has worked really hard to spread PMC and share it with others. Where have you been for two months since that's been taking place? You can't expect to show up only when PMC is valuable and expect a huge handout. The early adopters got rewarded. That's just the way it is with all coins. PMC's coin distribution is no different from Bitcoin's or NXT. The only difference being people are still giving away PMC. I don't see the distribution very fair friend . It's totally chaos and totally unfair . Bought from "market" i understand the idea of IPO and under-the-counter "buying" and afterward pumped by BTC bag holders . So far this are the results i see . I will keep an eye on it too see if it's otherwise . You come out of no where, criticising PMC, saying it's this and it's that, without any understanding of the coin and expect people to give you handouts? With such a total lack of understanding of PMC, I won't be giving you any. Maybe come back when you actually understand what the hell it is you're actually talking about. There was no IPO. No "under-the-counter" buying. There's no BTC bag holders here pumping the price either. It's only unfair to you because you weren't here from the start. There's no such thing as fair distribution. It doesn't exist. But PMCs distribution has a damn sight fairer than many other coins, and the community has been extremely generous. I'm giving away PMC 24/7 to network miners. Others have bought in and then given coins away. You'll never find a community as generous as PMC, and you come here accusing us of being crooks. You talk about fair? What do you deserve? Where were you when PMC was worthless and had no price at all? You might as well be talking about Bitcoin or NXT. What you said makes just about as much sense to those coins than any other. Here's some breaking news; people don't just hand out free bags of money to anyone who comes along and says "oh it's so unfair, so you must give me some". Welcome to Capitalism. |
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So where is distribution . You make some people rich in hope that they will distribute . I dint got any but i guess i will get something like 0.000002 BTC or 0.00003 or something like that so much FAIR DISTRIBUTION i only feel that this guy with Bobby as avatar has a good intend and the idea too share but now all are horded by DEV & other big BTC bag holders waiting for fish too bite i guess . Classic Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Ill post my address . From 498.999 let me think that is like if you send 1 COIN to everyone it makes sense . But if you send bags too a handful it really sucks cause that's not good at all for market health . P.S : I just saw this list : http://blockchain.premineco.in/wallet/index.php?min=1 wow it's awful man . Seriously ? 38720 PMC , and a lot of 15-10 k holders then 9k-1k a lot more too . What is going on , where is FAIR DISTRIBUTION? 1M2dYtTSJy8ZKAkJ4fjfUFCd32ppUzu6kS I don't think you understand PMC. The Dev gave all the coins away. The only coins now he holds are the ones he bought himself from the exchange. Here's a friendly tip; if you want people to give you some PMC, don't accuse them of being greedy bag holders. The greedy bag holders are the only ones who haven't given away a single coin. This community has worked really hard to spread PMC and share it with others. Where have you been for two months since that's been taking place? You can't expect to show up only when PMC is valuable and expect a huge handout. The early adopters got rewarded. That's just the way it is with all coins. PMC's coin distribution is no different from Bitcoin's or NXT. The only difference being people are still giving away PMC. |
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Actually the only possibility to get more miners I can see is to get RevolutionCoin into bigger exchange with API and some higher trade volume.
Then Nova can finish block explorer with API and I will add it to my revenue/marketcap site altcoinstas.com.
Then we also can ask coinwarz.com and coinmarketcap.com to add it.
Priority no.1 is to get it to an exchange with API. Possibilities I see:
atomic-trade.com
poloniex.com
allcoin.com
Did someone contacted these exchanges already?
+1 I have been chasing poloniex for a week or so, best bet is everybody drops an email to him. Contact email is under the support page. Have contacted all 3 now. Let's see. Here's hoping. Would be great to see RevolutionCoin on a bigger exchange. |
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Ebt to be listed on lazycoins at launch!
Goes to show we don't need bribery and money to get a good credible coin on an exchange. Keep mining brothers, this is only the beginning
We'll have the last laugh when the price goes up, and everyone cries "oh why didn't we mine this when we had the chance". Zero sympathy. |
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Its a strange phenomenom. We invest thousands into questionable coins and then ignore, downplay, or sabatoge the ones with merit.
If this coin is genuinly legitimate, then why worry? Buy a few, sit on them and wait. I swear this forum has gotten so used to pump and dumps that if a coin doesn't rocket in less than a week people think there's a problem with it. |
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75,000 blocks already mined eh? no thanks When did this launch?  |
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Utterly worthless. Couldn't give them to me for free. It'd be a waste of my time even installing the wallet.
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Long-time lurker on this thread, first-time poster; following brought me out of hiding... Although, I've been musing about the idea of a PMC fork into a new coin; PMC would run alongside it, but this new coin would work like so;
That sounds like the best idea i've read on the altcoin forum in ages and sounds like a very effective way to achieve a more equal distribution. sounds like Freicoin https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/FreicoinIt sounded a lot like Freicoin to me as well, but if I'm not mistaken, the collections go back to "the foundation" with Freicoin. I wasn't aware of Freicoin, but yes, similar but the coins go onto the next network block. No centralisation. |
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So, is this the PMC richlist? Technically it is the "everything" list, but the richlist is included.  I see. It's interesting to look at. Is that 38k the faucet? No, by tracing the blockchain, and with some help of another i was able to narrow it down to 2 people. I will say it is not me, but not much more. Ah. So a big holder then. That's a lot of PMC, I have to say. Still, PMC is still better distributed than NXT! Also; thanks to whoever donated 2.60 PMC to the block rewarder. It'll add a few more days to its running. I'm going to have to think about moving the block rewarder to a permanent server soon. I'm not mining much on this machine any more, and I am happy to keep it running for as long as I can afford to. 102 ADDRESSES (102 people MAX but not likely) own 423904.7064 PMC alarming.... That's on par with BTC and NXT, isn't it? Yes, it's a lot of be held by 100 or so addresses, but I am not at all surprised. Isn't that sort of a good sign, though? I mean they aren't dumping. That's true, yes. A 2-edge sword really. Personally I think the coin will need to circulate MUCH deeper for the coin to be considered a good experiment of bitcoins future and it's bound to happen eventually. Hopefully it isn't the same people buying PMC at such low prices, because perhaps a correction will help get the coins into the hands of other people. However optimistic that sounds, what is more likely the case is that the people buying PMC at low prices are the people who already know about PMC. Interesting phenomenon. That being said; as long as the coin has a usefulness it will create demand and therefore be used. The supply in actual circulation vs. the supply in the hands of people who don't sell PMC low is what makes things tick in the long run. If I knew the coins I was making available as block rewards were ending up in lots of new hands rather than a few big miners I would be happy to increase the rewards, but at the moment I do not know if that is the case. The main faucet is currently down, and Musent, who came out guns blazing when I called him out for moving all the coins and not telling us why the faucet went down is unlikely to make those coins available to the faucet. If it ever goes back up at all. If I have to, I will speak to a faucet developer myself and offer a PMC bounty for it to be built. I will put my own PMC into its running. I said all along that hoarders would be the ones to kill PMC, and that is a continued threat to PMC. It annoys me knowing the greedy just do not get the point; if there aren't enough coins circulating their coins are worthless. |
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the funny thing is .. if you now scroll through cryptsy's voteing list the one coin that sticks out and therefore gets attention is EBT because it's the only coin with a missing pay address. https://www.cryptsy.com/coinvoteseveryone will wonder EBT? What is EBT and why is there no link and will probabily end up in this thread And they will see childs who are arguing. The coin has pretty nice amount of votes on MintPal and Cryptsy. Also, you are forgetting something more important atm. Have you looked at PMTOCoins lately? Their exchange now looks awesome and guess what? EBT is traded there. LazyCoins also will launch pretty soon. Lets be realistic. EBT would have never gotten listed on Cryptsy. The coins that do have a huge amount of attention. I would rather EBT stood out in other ways, and I think it is doing that. I don't blame the devs for the sarcasm. They're as sick of pump and dumps as everyone else. Take a look at Premine, Fckbankscoin, KlondikeCoin, Noble, Cashcoin, and ProsperCoin. These coins have good support and yes, they're not worth a fortune, but that's because they aren't pumped. Look what's happened to Mintcoin. It will likely never reach such prices ever again, but it's got a community now. Do you honestly want EBT to be pumped super-high, dumped, and then die off? I don't. All altcoins are suffering right now thanks to MtGox. I'm quite happy for the coin to develop slowly and actually have a future. I'm not here to dump my EBT. I have my coins in my wallet and I'm not moving them anywhere. You didn't understand my point. All the things I've said are positive for the coin. I don't dream about Cryptsy, I just mentioned that the coin is listed there and that is getting attention. Then I'm agreeing with you. Let everyone run in the altcoin rat race to be the next pump and dump coin. EBT will do its own thing. Better to be a coin that stands out from the crowd than another "me too" currency. |
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That's on par with BTC and NXT, isn't it? Yes, it's a lot of be held by 100 or so addresses, but I am not at all surprised. Isn't that sort of a good sign, though? I mean they aren't dumping.
Yup, but probably many of these addresses with more than 10k are the ones that dump the market down. They bought PMC extremely cheap and also with the current price they earn. I'm not sure what can be done about that, then. Although, I've been musing about the idea of a PMC fork into a new coin; PMC would run alongside it, but this new coin would work like so; Instead of coins getting a "stake", they get the opposite; an anti-stake. So if the coins age to 30 days, you actually lose a percentage of coins, and they appear back on the network as the next block reward. The only way to prevent this would be to reset the age of your coins by moving them to another address. Also, the more of the coin you hold, the more anti-stake you lose to the network. Sort of an AntiHoardCoin. It would run alongside PMC, but it would be based on a model that would punish big holders. There would be less coins circulating due to lower adoption, but the coins would circulate very regularly as block rewards. You *could* do this with PMC, and it would be extremely interesting to watch what would happen, but it would require overwhelming community support. |
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So, is this the PMC richlist? Technically it is the "everything" list, but the richlist is included. I see. It's interesting to look at. Is that 38k the faucet? No, by tracing the blockchain, and with some help of another i was able to narrow it down to 2 people. I will say it is not me, but not much more. Ah. So a big holder then. That's a lot of PMC, I have to say. Still, PMC is still better distributed than NXT! Also; thanks to whoever donated 2.60 PMC to the block rewarder. It'll add a few more days to its running. I'm going to have to think about moving the block rewarder to a permanent server soon. I'm not mining much on this machine any more, and I am happy to keep it running for as long as I can afford to. 102 ADDRESSES (102 people MAX but not likely) own 423904.7064 PMC alarming.... That's on par with BTC and NXT, isn't it? Yes, it's a lot of be held by 100 or so addresses, but I am not at all surprised. Isn't that sort of a good sign, though? I mean they aren't dumping. As long as PMC continues to have community support, the market will play out however it plays out. I would like to see more PMC out on the market though. Maybe some of those people will dump, and when they do the price will decrease, but more PMC will enter the market. |
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the funny thing is .. if you now scroll through cryptsy's voteing list the one coin that sticks out and therefore gets attention is EBT because it's the only coin with a missing pay address. https://www.cryptsy.com/coinvoteseveryone will wonder EBT? What is EBT and why is there no link and will probabily end up in this thread And they will see childs who are arguing. The coin has pretty nice amount of votes on MintPal and Cryptsy. Also, you are forgetting something more important atm. Have you looked at PMTOCoins lately? Their exchange now looks awesome and guess what? EBT is traded there. LazyCoins also will launch pretty soon. Lets be realistic. EBT would have never gotten listed on Cryptsy. The coins that do have a huge amount of attention. I would rather EBT stood out in other ways, and I think it is doing that. I don't blame the devs for the sarcasm. They're as sick of pump and dumps as everyone else. Take a look at Premine, Fckbankscoin, KlondikeCoin, Noble, Cashcoin, and ProsperCoin. These coins have good support and yes, they're not worth a fortune, but that's because they aren't pumped. Look what's happened to Mintcoin. It will likely never reach such prices ever again, but it's got a community now. Do you honestly want EBT to be pumped super-high, dumped, and then die off? I don't. All altcoins are suffering right now thanks to MtGox. I'm quite happy for the coin to develop slowly and actually have a future. I'm not here to dump my EBT. |
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