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Economy / Speculation / Re: PnF TA
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on: June 10, 2016, 01:55:16 PM
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Is anyone interested in OTC Futures/Options for hedging in ICOs (eg WAVES, Elastic, IOTA etc)?
IMHO shitcoins like IOTA should be easy to short them down to zero!
Feedback appreciated!
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA
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on: June 08, 2016, 11:37:02 AM
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@iotatoken
Do we have some log of the historical prices based on the p2p trades here?
I would be interested to know them for my charts.
BTW, I like a lot what WAVES team did with the launch, to end the donations, THEN enable the wallets, THEN to start the trading at exchanges (pending).
Any idea of the process in this?
Disclaimer: I own 0 IOTA, I am interested for my businesses case
Re: historical prices of p2p trades, no, that's up to those who resell, we don't track the price at all, the market decides. But if you head over to the IOTA Speculation thread you should be able to find quite a lot of info on it. Our plan all along has been to establish/not establish IOTA Foundation prior to launch, then launch, then start trading on exchanges. What business case? You can check old speculation thread here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1360660.0  and new here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1397955.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1440112.0  |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA
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on: June 08, 2016, 10:00:32 AM
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@iotatoken
Do we have some log of the historical prices based on the p2p trades here?
I would be interested to know them for my charts.
BTW, I like a lot what WAVES team did with the launch, to end the donations, THEN enable the wallets, THEN to start the trading at exchanges (pending).
Any idea of the process in this?
Disclaimer: I own 0 IOTA, I am interested for my businesses case
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
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on: June 08, 2016, 08:28:18 AM
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Sophism lives in Monero community! Socrates would be sad   I am out. Community sucks, with some bright exceptions. Zcash will teach you a lesson I suppose. For those interested (and I have many people in my team that like XMR) I still cover this coin because TA is TA. If I see an opportunity in XMR I will advise everyone to buy. Currently the guideline is to not touch this unless it gets ridiculously oversold (50-75k) because from TA PoV (performance, relative strength to ETH, LSK etc), liquidity, whale manipulation etc etc SUCKS! Keep holding your bags as 'investors' lol |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
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on: June 07, 2016, 09:08:33 PM
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Agree, no point in referencing a dozen places to buy XMR in theory, where in practice you can use only 1 exchange (of course P2P can be a very good way too but we are talking exchanges).
No. In practice you can use any of the dozen+ places to buy XMR. The other options aren't less viable just because Poloniex is the preference. In which of the exchanges mentioned above can someone buy 10k xmr without slippage? That's 'in practice'. You can be a sophist and play with words as much as you want but someone has to wonder why... EDIT: That doesn't change the obvious facts.
Put there offer to buy 10k XMR and sooner or latter someone will fill your order. How do you know? I meant market buy but anyway, the only thing more disgusting from Bitcoin maximalists is monero maximalists. If you only knew how much you hurt this coin.. I am done arguing with shills. lol what? You always need supply and demand. If there would be people needing Monero on any exchange, also supply would found the way there. It is how nature works. Good luck finding demand at X shitexchange... |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
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on: June 07, 2016, 08:59:52 PM
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Agree, no point in referencing a dozen places to buy XMR in theory, where in practice you can use only 1 exchange (of course P2P can be a very good way too but we are talking exchanges).
No. In practice you can use any of the dozen+ places to buy XMR. The other options aren't less viable just because Poloniex is the preference. In which of the exchanges mentioned above can someone buy 10k xmr without slippage? That's 'in practice'. You can be a sophist and play with words as much as you want but someone has to wonder why... EDIT: That doesn't change the obvious facts.
Put there offer to buy 10k XMR and sooner or latter someone will fill your order. How do you know? I meant market buy but anyway, the only thing more disgusting from Bitcoin maximalists is monero maximalists. If you only knew how much you hurt this coin.. I am done arguing with shills. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
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on: June 07, 2016, 07:02:47 PM
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Agree, no point in referencing a dozen places to buy XMR in theory, where in practice you can use only 1 exchange (of course P2P can be a very good way too but we are talking exchanges).
No. In practice you can use any of the dozen+ places to buy XMR. The other options aren't less viable just because Poloniex is the preference. In which of the exchanges mentioned above can someone buy 10k xmr without slippage? That's 'in practice'. You can be a sophist and play with words as much as you want but someone has to wonder why... EDIT: That doesn't change the obvious facts.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: PnF TA
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on: June 07, 2016, 02:52:54 PM
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The dump happened, let's see if the bears can push past 565 towards 540!
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
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on: June 07, 2016, 12:42:08 PM
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Monero Markets
# Source Pair Volume (24h) Price Volume (%) Updated
1 Poloniex XMR/BTC $ 80,158 $ 0.973021 93.70 % Recently
2 Poloniex XMR/USDT $ 1,605 $ 0.982781 1.88 % Recently
3 Poloniex MAID/XMR $ 988 $ 0.973484 1.16 % Recently
4 Poloniex DIEM/XMR $ 806 $ 0.973484 0.94 % Recently
5 Bittrex XMR/BTC $ 798 $ 0.971616 0.93 % Recently
6 Poloniex LTC/XMR $ 355 $ 0.973484 0.41 % Recently
7 Poloniex NXT/XMR $ 326 $ 0.973484 0.38 % Recently
8 Poloniex QORA/XMR $ 208 $ 0.973484 0.24 % Recently
9 Poloniex DASH/XMR $ 106 $ 0.973484 0.12 % Recently
10 Poloniex HYP/XMR $ 48 $ 0.973194 0.06 % Recently
11 Poloniex BCN/XMR $ 36 $ 0.973484 0.04 % Recently
12 Poloniex XDN/XMR $ 30 $ 0.973194 0.03 % Recently
13 Poloniex BBR/XMR $ 29 $ 0.973194 0.03 % Recently
14 HitBTC XMR/BTC $ 28 $ 0.946732 0.03 % Recently
Source https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/monero/#marketsBittrex makes 0.93 % of all XMR/BTC trade, HitBTC another 0.03 % XMR/FIAT does not exist. Agree, no point in referencing a dozen places to buy XMR in theory, where in practice you can use only 1 exchange (of course P2P can be a very good way too but we are talking exchanges). |
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Economy / Speculation / Re: PnF TA
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on: June 07, 2016, 12:24:48 PM
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i'd say there is room for 650ish. but then retracement is more than likely just to purge and make the pump more sustainable. We can't predict whale movements (it needs a whale to move the market now either way) but IMO it is not bad idea to sell here and wait for 3900s to be cleared. Of course, long term investors can still hold, this is a short to medium term approach. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread
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on: June 06, 2016, 10:07:49 AM
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Gambling requires no foresight or knowledge. Speculation requires both.
Why do you contradict yourself. Refer to your use the term 'gambling' as your excuse for being unwilling to back up your foresight on Iota's success within the next 2 months. Yes please refer to the definition of 'idiot'. Feel free to deflect your embarrassment with something about posting photos of testicles or any other of your other hypocrite moralizing bullshit. PMed you... |
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