I reached an age milestone not long ago, and for some reason I've been really nostalgic about my teenaged years.  Dusted off a bunch of old punk-rock records recently, here's one of the bands I was into as a kid:

Every man imagines his own sperm as if it's rocketing out, germinating the universe...


Right?   

I'm sorry for any confusion; you said that a customer can reject KYC and in most cases he'll get a refund.  What would cause a customer to not get a refund if he rejected KYC?  What happens to the funds in that case?

Today's Astronomy Picture of the Day, it's a sign:

Can you please answer a couple of questions?

1. Are you a representative of ChangeNOW?
2. How were you able to link that transaction to the OP?
3. Why isn't ChangeNOW using their official account to make these posts?


Good to know.


In most cases the customer gets a refund?  What happens otherwise?

If you're thinking about from a long-term investment strategy it doesn't matter when you buy.  I purchase a little bit of bitcoin every month.  I bought when it was $60k, I bought when was $28k.  I'll buy if it drops to $19, and and I'll buy when it pumps to $100k.  I'm playing the long game, so the current price is really not as important as the over-all average price of my bitcoin purchases.

$125.  I updated the OP to include prices in USD $cam tokens.  


Lol, if you buy it you can do whatever you want with it.  It's worth noting, however that the Nano X is like new.  I've never actually used it as my regular hardware wallet.  I only played with it to learn about how Ledgers work.  When I first got it I imported a hot wallet into to and made a couple of transactions.  Then I restored it and it's been sitting in the drawer for almost two years.  It is one of the early models without the problematic battery.

Can you provide some more detail, please?  I've never used the Changenow service (fees are way to high,) but they've been around quite some time and I haven't heard of them being scammers before^[1].  TrustPilot lists over 7k reviews with 4.8 stars average.  I'll refrain from discussing the reliability of TrustPilot reviews, that's another subject.

Are you sure you were dealing with the right site, and didn't get phished?

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Thank you for that.

As OmegaStarScream has mentioned; when importing your seed into Electrum, on the page where you enter the seed phrase click on the "options" button and select the check box for Bip39 seed.

On the following screen it'll ask what type of wallet you have, i.e. legacy, nested segwit, or native segwit.  Receiving addresses that start with 1 are legacy; if they start with 3 they're nested segwit, and if they start with bc1 they're native segwit.  Select the option that correlates with your type of addresses. 

It's been a week and a half since I reported the .xyz site (I hope I wasn't the only one,) but it still tops the search results on google.  A friend called me the other day, asking if the .xyz site was the legit one or not.  The last time he used chipmixer I walked him through using tor.  He said he was about to send the coins but it felt too easy, so he figured it must be a scam, lol.  Good call!

I told him to bookmark chipmixer.com, which he had not done.  He did bookmark the tor site in torbrowser, but had forgotten about all that, which is why he searched for it.  Just another lesson about the importance of bookmarking sites you use for financial transactions.

Excellent review.

In all honesty I feel the idea is a lot better than the execution.  I had considered conducting this experiment myself but decided against it feeling it's not as safe, secure, or functional as an air-gapped Pi (or other PC) running an open-source OS such as Ubuntu.  My main concern with the setup is that you have to keep your seed phrases accessible or pull them out of hiding once in a while, which exposes them to significantly more risk than is necessary.  Conversely, an air-gapped PC can store your seeds relatively safely behind strong encryption, and multiple layers of encryption can be implemented.  Once you're seeds are paired with wallets they never need to be exposed again.

Theft of loss of SeedSigner appears to pose slightly less risk, assuming the seed is thoroughly purged from the system.  I haven't audited the code, but I assume the seed is stored in ram while the device is in use.  If the OS uses swap files to store the seed it can retain the information unless it's overwritten with random bits as the device is being powered down.  I don't know about you, but none of that would really ease my concerns if the device was stolen.  Again, a thoroughly encrypted OS is likely to buy you more time to discover the loss of the device and move your funds.

One benefit to the experiment, however is that if you tire of it you have all you need to convert it into an air-gapped PC (with the exception that I would want a bigger screen.)

All in all, it looks like a really fun project whether you use it to manage funds or not.  

I think they broke something long before that.  When I first bought the wallet there was a desktop app provided by KeepKey.  I used it with Electrum from the get-go because the native app only supported legacy addresses.  At some point KeepKey merged with ShapeShift and they ported the desktop app into a google chrome extension, but the standalone app was still available.  Shortly after that a firmware update broke the ability to pair the device with the desktop app, unless it was started with admin privileges.  The same applied to pairing with Electrum.  To fix that issue, they stopped supporting the desktop app. 

It seems obvious that KeepKey doesn't really care about this.  They would just as soon have all KeepKey owners limited to using ShapeShift to manage their accounts.



That makes two of us. 



I don't use either of those wallets so I haven't tried.  When Core 22 was released with hardware support I was able to pair my Nano S, but the KeepKey was problematic.  I assume it was the same issue that prevented it from pairing with Electrum.  I don't expect Specter would behave any differently, since it's mainly just an alternative gui for Core.  Sparrow is also is just a gui wrapper around Electrum, so again I doubt it would behave differently with the KeepKey.

Because of the way hardware wallets interact with your computer, there's almost no risk to your bitcoin from malware and viruses.  They're not without risk, however.  There's still the potential for clipboard malware to change a send-to address.  They still require caution and diligence by the user.



As you've indicated, there's the potential to download a malicious version of Electrum, which is the biggest risk to your coins.  There's the potential for other types of malware to capture your key strokes, and compromise your passwords.

If you are a confident and competent computer user who takes great care to avoid getting hacked or download malware, then you're desktop wallet is likely to remain safe.  But realistically, only you can assess the risk/reward of your behavior.  I would advise against storing the majority of your wealth on a desktop wallet.  Personally I use desktop (or "hot") wallets as if they are my leather wallet in my pocket, and I don't keep very much cash in my leather wallet.  If it gets lost, I'll still be able to feed the kids and pay the bills.

You can lock, delete, or move this thread to the archive section all by your self.  You don't a moderator to do it.



Oh FFS, would you make up your mind.  No one here is that desperate for your 1mBTC, blessed or cursed.  Personally, I'm tempted to oppose your flag just to see if you'll honor your word (and your curse,) because I think you're full of shit on both accounts.



What are you talking about?  There's no revoking your right to be jackass after it's already happened.  This is the interwebs and everything is archived.  You won't be getting any good-boy points for paying up, and you're not losing anything by not.  No one cares.

Heartbreaking loss for Liverpool, my condolences to all LFC and Premier League fans who were rooting for the Reds.  I was right there with you, I really thought they were going to do it this year.  They certainly played the better game, but the way Royal Madrid capitalizes on mistakes is unmatched in professional football.

Congrats to Real Madrid, their fans, and Spain!  You've done it once again!

That was a hot mess of disorganization in front of the LFC goal.  Such a close call, but I thought that fist touch might have been off-sides, but I guess VAR was more focused on the second touch after Becker and Konate got their signals crossed.  Close call!

It's a fucking conspiracy to stop LFC from getting support from their fans! 

It looks like they're not letting the LFC fans into the stadium, no one is quite sure why they're being delayed.  There were reports of people climbing fences trying to get it, but it's unclear if they were impatient fans who'd been delayed or if they were just random people trying to get in.

Oh, absolutely!  I wasn't trying to minimize the other upgrades, only to highlight how the team proactively supports the community as a whole by going out of their way to support a problematic and not-very-popular hardware wallet.  It wasn't something they had to do, so I'm feeling quite a lot of love right now.

Electrum just released a new version, 4.2.2.  One of the "issues" they fixed wasn't actually an issue with Electrum, but rather an issue with a the crappy KeepKey hardware wallet.


As you can see from the release notes above (emphasis mine,) the pairing issue with KeepKey has been fixed "using a workaround."  How do I know the issue is with the hardware wallet, and not Electrum?  The same pairing problem is endemic with the KeepKey and any desktop client I've tried.  The same problem with pairing is present with KeepKey's own bootloader and firmware update client.  The issue started after a firmware update roughly 2 years ago (IIRC,) and until now KeepKey has been unable to resolve their issue.  In order to pair a KeepKey with desktop clients one would have to run the application with administrator privileges.

I just tried the new version with one of my KeepKey HW wallets, and it pairs up smooth as silk.  Kudos to the Electrum team for stepping up and taking care of their supporters.