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1381  Other / Off-topic / Re: bobsurplus appreciation thread on: December 09, 2014, 08:09:32 AM
I just forecast that he will wake up one day hanging by his balls.

Or worse.
1382  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Halcyon - x15 POS - Cryptsy Bittrex - Dev Slow but Continue on: December 09, 2014, 07:55:14 AM
Can i ask a question ?
Who are the owners of the coin ? Phantom?? And what right he has to remove the halcoindev (just asking) . And what why is the coin algo being changed ?

I am not a fudder ... and i have no intention of fudding ... am just asking ... I am a supporter of this coin ... plz can some one answer me

Thank u

There are no owners. It isn't a bank or something. It's the community who decides where to go. The previous dev did nothing for HAL after September in fact. It doesn't really matter why. We need a dev who can do the job. I found a good dev and he agreed to make the next release for HAL. When it's done and open for public use, he will speak for himself.


And...? Delisting will be happening real soon if nothing changes like immediately...
1383  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 09, 2014, 05:11:44 AM
It's fucking working: https://bter.com/trade/nbt_btc

That is quite impressive - it has converged on a dollar.  I wasn't aware of that.

But look at the volume - it's almost negligible once it converges on the peg. Clearly the valuation just ends up getting reflected in the liquidity instead of price. In other words, your holdings can theoretically be worth a million dollars but your lucky if you can realise 10 dollars of that in a year.

Would that not be the case ?

I think that the idea is that liquidity through the use of Bay on the Marketplace will create the ability for eventual mobility in and out of Bay.

So pretty much, the coding can potentially lock the price.  The people who are going to populate the marketplace will provide the liquidity to realize more than 'ten dollars a year'.  So I think you are right but everything hinges on the marketplace.  I've known that since during the IPO and posted as such.  No one really paid attention to it...

For those who are going to attack this post - I'm describing my impression of how it is supposed to work.  I really don't care about being asked or being forced to wonder about who those people are and whether or not the Alibaba connections are real or the NDA's are a convenient excuse.

Time will tell those stories...and if they're not worth telling than that will be it.  You're not going to get your answers by demanding them to people who don't know.  You're going to get them when it happens...

Once again: There's no NDAs, there's no Alibaba connections of any kind -except the "chinese" guy maybe purchasing some batteries on the Alibaba market- whatsoever. None. It is all vapor. It is all a scam.
1384  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [BYC] Bytecent - new rules introduced to cryptocoin world on: December 09, 2014, 05:06:17 AM
Yes barabbas you are right. Who bought coins looks stupid now. Since he you had possibility to mine many coins at start, and that was on purpose!
Where diff is explained like "Difficulty Retarget: Every block" wich is for sure not like that, there is room for some "friends".
All those friends didnt need to buy coins.

Seems that banning/restrict whole country or target IPs does not mean nothing to you?
We can explain that like, 'yea, you wanted to cheat, let me ban you", But what if i tell you that is clearly that not case. How the hell 100+ people and their PC's can share same wallet? Yes, that is explained as reason for restircting whole range, Look then at block explorer, now when bunch of miners are restricted, you should see atleast slighly less mined blocks, but no, you will see even more hasharete. You can still se those "super miners".. how is that still posible, when dev solved that problem? Also, seems only dev knows how to "flag" address and mining to 1 wallet. It is still case at this very moment.

Be sure, 'he' is doing this for him, not for you. His attitude, at selfmoderated forum, is terrible, and if he does't change at least that, he can just go down.


Look, I have been the harshest critic of IE in many, many things. When I saw the mess that the launch was with people mining 10s of thousands of coins instead of the 1440 per day limit, I was the first and most vociferous critic. Needless to say I was banned at CoinBlab at his request (I'm still banned). I started the thread THE BYTECENT MESS, right here immediately, contacted Bittrex and pushed incessantly for the issuance of a refund to everyone who wante it. So you don't have to tell me how messy that was. Around 30% of the 160,000 coins sold at the IPO (of which 15,000 were refunded, so the total net sale of the ICO was 145,000 coins). More than 30% of that, around 45,000 coins or more, have been mined for free in less than a month. So people selling those at ANY price, will make pure profit. But, IN SPITE OF THOSE FACTS, there has not been sell of of any significance and the coin has performed and continues performing remarkably well. To each his own.

And though I am quite sure a small amount of those 45,000+ has been mined by IE (a very small amount), I am certain that he is neither gaming the coin nor scamming anyone in any way. I repeat: To each his own. The Proof of Miner thing, given the success of the coin, is quite innovative and quite interesting since you need at least 600 coins to be able to mine for 24 hours without the captcha interruption that, de facto, means you are not mining. Whatever it is, the coin keeps on performing great AND with a lot of liquidity in spite of the fact that most coins are staking. Those are undeniable facts, whether you like IE of not -not many people do and given his character flaws, with good reason-. And, better yet, he still has not done practically anything of what he is going to do for the coin, starting with his promotions, press releases, etc. And he keeps people informed with his recorded weekly updated.

Yes I find it quite disgraceful -and stupid, really- that he will have a forum totally censored and away from here, but you can easily imagine the kind of brutal, absolutely idiotic and unfounded insults he would receive on a thread here if uncensored, so it is somehow understandable that he chose that road, much as I -again- find it stupid.

Once again, I will be scared of those 45,000+ coins being dumped at any moment, but since I believe a good part of those has already changed hands, if the coin manages to remain above the ICO price for one more monthly or so, I believe it will be as solid a project as any in crypto alts and way more solid than 99.99% of the rest... in spite -or because of- IE.
1385  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 09, 2014, 03:19:30 AM
And Bobsurplus, true to form, sending yet another barrage of minions and sock puppets to give advice to the poor (idiotic) believers who have drunk so much kool-aid he will applaud the "advice" from just-registered newbies... Amazing, simply amazing.
1386  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SEED] SeedCoin | New Road Map on: December 09, 2014, 02:11:29 AM
That reminds me, we forgot to send out the forest yesterday.
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/seed/tx.dws?222026.htm

At the current price, the forest distributed 0.180894014BTC worth of Seed. With the top 20 wallets in the distribution getting ~0.004BTC worth each.
Everyone and their uncle should be buying enough seed to stake. It's easy to see the value in buying enough seed to at least stake to take part in the forest.  It's even easier to see the value in not selling your Seeds.

There are coins for trading, coins for tipping, merchandising, gaming... there are few coins like seed that you want to simply hold and stake.

Even if you staked once and/or frequently enough to remain in that list, you have the potential to receive SEED 😃 It's not hard, and adds value.

!!!STILL NOT SELLING!!!


Oh come on, do a couple of those deals you specialize in, like selling a couple hundred thou to JYap, or to Cayce... hey, neither the market nor barely the kool-aid troop would ever notice.., maybe? Hey, it short of worked with PINK so why not? You may even get a few hundred sat per... You know, the back-room deals...

Just a suggestion.
1387  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SEED] SeedCoin | New Road Map on: December 09, 2014, 01:34:00 AM
I'm speechless... Not an easy feat...
1388  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 08, 2014, 11:26:32 PM
In what pertains to BAY, this is absolutely ridiculous beyond any "explanation" for, to begin with, no one wants BAY nor no one is ever going to want BAY. No speculators, no merchants, no one, alright? Now, that eliminated any potential "market" right there, right? But, for the sake of argument, lets assume that you cannot buy what you want with FIAT, that you cannot buy it with BTC and that the "merchant" is so stupid that he insist in being paid with BAY, so, in order to purchase his shit, you have to purchase BAY first (I hope the immensity of absurdity in that scenario slowly sinks in). In that case, if you cannot live without those items you want to purchase, and there's absolutely no other supplier less strict you can go to, you absolutely have to buy BAY at whatever price the supply allows in order to get the goods. So count on BAY to be able to skip the lines and purchase the iPhone7 before the neighbor has it set to his home the following day by Apple.... (absurdity starting to sink in yet? oh wait, there's more!). Obviously, by a simple process of elimination, you will have providers and customers of "very special" goods/services somewhat interested in this type of transaction. You want to hire a killer? Simply use BAY; you want the latest, most grotesque child porno in your computer anonymously?, Sure, just use BAT! Ah, you have it in for cocaine, heroine maybe? Here, directly from the supplier, you got it... if you are willing to pay in BAY! Law Enforcement? Nah, they are stupid compared to the brilliance of Zimbeck's algo. They'll never catch up...

I could go on... but I have to leave the meaty part for the pay-per-view version. It is too ridiculous as it is already. Lets just leave it at this: Zimbeck pretend's to put a price on something no one wants or will ever. The rest is just decoration.
1389  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [BYC] Bytecent - new rules introduced to cryptocoin world on: December 08, 2014, 10:40:16 PM
Wow, I thought that BYC is big scam, but this is first real evidence. People should know about this, before they buy this piece of s***

edit: crypto is all about open-source and trust, but this is far,far from it.

I have read stupid on these boards and then, I read... you. The coin, one month after a very messy launch -which prompted me and a few others to claim refunds AND GOT THEM-, still sits at above 100% the price of the ICO -after having reached as much as 248%-. So, anyone that invested in the ICO, let alone those that were able to mine up to 30% of the total supply of coins, who got then for ZERO, have been able to sell all or part of their coins for a HUGE PROFIT, and you call that a scam? Wow, simply wow.

By the way, it is the ONLY ICO in the last month -and long before- that still sits at a huge profits and NEVER, since launch, has traded below it.

I wish all scams were like this one... even if having bailed wasn't exactly my most brilliant investment idea.
1390  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 08, 2014, 10:31:13 PM
You all should not let you fool by barabbas aka IconicExpert. Either he have interests in getting this coin cheap or he is pissed because nobody want to buy his Bytecent scam and Bay is stealing volume on his coin  Cool

How much of a retard can you be? BYC is trading at 100% plus its ICO price and hss never even come near its ICO price since the mess of a launch that it was. Amzing, simply amazing...

And not only was I the strongest critic of IE's pretending that the mess of the launch was "normal", but actually forced the refund from bittrex... which I took... by the way not my most brilliant decision since I could have more than trple my investment.

You must be some new kind of stupid, really.

Call me stupid but I have seen your posts in libertycoin thread as you forgot to log out and posted with your wrong ID. A lot of other people also seen it. You better make a new account bimbo. Your crap talk is not longer working here  Cool

Now you are a NEW kind of stupid, undiscovered until now.

And a blatant liar.

But that would be the extent of my engaging. Over and out.
1391  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 08, 2014, 10:29:44 PM
It's fucking working: https://bter.com/trade/nbt_btc


DUHHH! But according to barrabas it cant be done even though it has been done. TWICE (NBT and BitUSD) using different theories to do it too. lol

This is beyond stupid, amazingly so. But I won't go into details of that exercise in absurdity until everyone has it clear for what it is the scam that BAY is and in which you are an accomplice.

And, again, the only relevant question, the only one: Who is selling  all they can at 1/3 and below the price of the ICO?
1392  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 08, 2014, 10:01:04 PM
Say I want out of the coin but my funds are locked in the pegging scheme. I just sell him my wallet.dat and he sends me btc for it. We can use a trusted escrow and presto I have bypassed the pegging.

This.

I can't understand how such unrelated concepts could become entangled - markets and coin mechanics. You can't control a market with an algo. Buyers decide prices not algos and there's no point in restricting supply if there are no buyers.

This concept of pegging is seen from the perspective that the currency concerned is *exclusive*. i.e. it's the only currency in the world and the market has to use it because it has to have liquidity. In that case - yes, this approach would work. But what's missing from the model is that this isn't the only currency. If buyers don't want to pay a dollar per coin for Bitbay they'll just use another currency that only costs them a cent per coin instead.

If they don't want to pay a dollar per coin for smart contracts then they'll just use another coin that costs a cent per coin for smart contracts.

I can only see one scenario where this type of "pegging" algo could work and that's where there is some broader commercial context where the use of this coin is mandatory - i.e. the buyer cannot purchase the item they want without using Bitbay. For that to happen you need massive pre-existing and well established marketplaces to adopt because it won't be possible to "grow" them due to said demand deficiancy from peoepl not wnating to pay a dollar a coin as described above.

But I've seen no allusion to such large scale commercial markets. It's not specified anywhere as part of the project plan or even as part of the pegging model (which it should be because control over supply is useless without a corresponding level of demand if you want to "fix" a price).



Zimbeck's pegging idea is comically absurd. But that is way beyond the current scope of the scam. And therefore not even deserving comment.
1393  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 08, 2014, 09:58:14 PM
You all should not let you fool by barabbas aka IconicExpert. Either he have interests in getting this coin cheap or he is pissed because nobody want to buy his Bytecent scam and Bay is stealing volume on his coin  Cool

How much of a retard can you be? BYC is trading at 100% plus its ICO price and hss never even come near its ICO price since the mess of a launch that it was. Amzing, simply amazing...

And not only was I the strongest critic of IE's pretending that the mess of the launch was "normal", but actually forced the refund from bittrex... which I took... by the way not my most brilliant decision since I could have more than trple my investment.

You must be some new kind of stupid, really.
1394  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 08, 2014, 09:50:49 PM
And nobody pressures me to keep quiet about finances. Ever. You dont know what goes on, you have no clue you are getting upset with the only good guy and you dont see it because you keep making some very stupid assumptions.

I'm doing it for a reason than more than just myself and it would never be to protect the likes of the people you mentioned. At all.



But you in fact are. The "chinese". He claims he allowed Bobsurplus in to promote BAY... Well fact is he's in and in full control. So yes you are working for him. And no, unless you come clean officially -and time is running out- you are not thr only good guy, in fact you will be the worst of the bad guys -and the better paid too-, so stop the nonsense or live with the consequences. Very simple.

You may think the problem is in Taiwan but the shots are being called from Canada.
1395  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 08, 2014, 08:54:38 PM
Bob is certainly not my boss. Dont ever wanna hear his name.

As posted, indirectly he is. He's the one calling the shots.

Very easy to not being called liar: Don't tell lies. Or half truths.
1396  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SEED] SeedCoin | New Road Map on: December 08, 2014, 08:00:33 PM
You are all going to be millonaires with SEED, including, of course, Fayoling and his PINK minions/scammers. I will be wrong in the end, no question... err, maybe with a bit of a question....

Just not on this Earth or in this lifetime.

But hey, I never though it would trade even 500 coins above 3k, so I was wrong. May as well be wrong and it will trade above 100k, right? Hehe...

Because we all have been screaming that seed was going to make us rich.  You seriously need help man. I honestly feel bad for you. . .

In his head, yes he hears echoes of people screaming. If he concentrates he can make them say anything he wants.




1397  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [NAUT] Nautiluscoin - First Coin w/Stabilization Fund - Digishield on: December 08, 2014, 07:33:36 PM
NAUT is 5k SAT now and will further go down  Roll Eyes  Cry  Cool  Wink

The point is BK has not announced the NSF addresses and NAUT is not transparent,
I think soon everybody will start dumping and price will go down to 1k, it is just any time soon now.

I told BK many times before to announce the addresses for NSF, He did not even reply.
Because he needs BTC, too. Dont tell fraction of BTC he need?, yes he does indeed, everybody needs BTC,
it does not matter who you are, especially if it is free and dumps from NSF.

NSF is being used for dumping the price and let his customers buy enough, not for buying pressure.

You threatened to take NAUT to 2k sats and hold it there on twitter.

Are you like this every full moon?
or
Are you a pro-troll like Barabas?


Didn't get enough religion yet? Worry not, you will get still some more.

In the end, you will "get" it.
1398  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 08, 2014, 07:10:06 PM
I have had it with Zimbeck and his half truths/outright lies. He volunteered the figures that ultimately he admits here were lies since besides the 100BTC he got for licensing and implementing Halo/pegging/marketplace, he now admits that he got 91BTC more on the side AND doesn't mention the 20 million BAY he also admitted before to getting as part of the deal. He also should know, by now, who he is really working for in scamming the investors of the house of cards that has been launched around his name.

Here it is, Zimbeck, so you cannot claim ignorance: The "Chinese" guy -you know who that is, don't you?- agreed with Bobsurplus and his team that they would pump and dump BAY. Bobsurplus approach is straight forward ("we only pump worthwhile projects..."). The fully control the operation. Fully. Even from the tech side with hackers having access to every back door (yes Zimbeck, including Halo). In total BAY got 550 BTC from unsuspecting investors in the ICO. Mind you, that is ALL profit because the Chinese and Bobsurplus own the rest, so they paid themselves for it. And they have unloaded quite a bit of it son far... with hundreds of millions of BAY still to go. Even if they end up selling all of them at 10 sat or even lower, they will still make out as bandits, get it [people? Get it Zimbeck? That's how the scam has been perpetrated. Bobsurplus has his team of minions and puppets posting 24/7 the kool aid to get every single drop of money from the greedy, blind, stupid people and meanwhile pressure you Zimbeck to keep your mouth shut in the official thread and keep on delivering on what you were contracted for. You hate Bobsurplus, I know because you have told me... well, it is your boss, in case you did not know. And you are lining up his pockets. Worst case scenario -and it has already materialized-, he will get around 1,000 BTC clear when all is said and done. It's much, much less than he expected, but it is still a nice chunk. And on to the next one. Bob, Bobby, Robert, I have predicted you will wake up some day hanging from your balls. I still do. Watch your back because most people is on to you already. In your line of "work" you should pay your people much better... or just pay them, but hey, you are doing "good" so far... it's only the clock is ticking. And no Ryan and the girlfriend, not a great help, potentially quite the contrary, alright?

So there you have it Zimbeck. Stop claiming ignorance. Stop confusing people with half-assed admissions that turn out to be half-assed lies. You have the full picture now. And the part you, willingly, play on that picture. Now you do know.

And so does everyone.
1399  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: THE BYTECENT DISASTER on: December 08, 2014, 06:45:13 PM
Yes BYC is a proven SCAM. There is no activity on this forum, only on theirs, where they delete every single post when people write about their problems. I advise you to stay away from this coin!

I created this thread because the launch was indeed a disaster and IE was forced to admit to it and offer refunds because of it by Bittretx. But It wasn't a scam and it isn't a scam.

Personal feelings should be left aside and, quite frankly, get over it, ok? The coin is so far a mild success, that given the fact that so many people hate IE, would be a wiold success under any other circumstances. Still, the price stands at more than 100% profint from ICO launch which is way, waaay more than can be said about 99.99% of any other iCO or launch.

So stop the "scam" nonsense because it simply isn't true and the coin, for now at least, is both innovative and successful. Deal with it people.

In the interest of full disclosure, I was the first proponent of the refund and I did in fact take the refund. So, even with messy launch, I will be the first to admit that BYC is indeed a success.
1400  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SEED] SeedCoin | New Road Map on: December 08, 2014, 06:58:01 AM
You are all going to be millonaires with SEED, including, of course, Fayoling and his PINK minions/scammers. I will be wrong in the end, no question... err, maybe with a bit of a question....

Just not on this Earth or in this lifetime.

But hey, I never though it would trade even 500 coins above 3k, so I was wrong. May as well be wrong and it will trade above 100k, right? Hehe...
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