If it was determined that Factom was communicating privately with people on a forum like you describe and providing information that wasn't available to the public at large, it would create a huge credibility, trust, and potentially even legal issue.
Also they are likely to be dealing with large public and private enterprises where NDAs and high secrecy about future projects are the norm. They are hardly going to be passing this on to "community leaders" who would pose a serious security risk. |
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You've obviously never lived in poverty if you think people can't sell coins they believe in. News flash: people need food. People have loved ones that depend on them. There are more coins in this space which I believe in than I possess money to invest, so I have to choose. This is not analogous to Apple at all. I am not some random investor in Factom. I wrote the first Bitcoin Magazine article about it, made it appear on NewsBTC countless times, had Paul Snow at CoinFest, and have been recommending it to government officials in Nigeria for some time. And more importantly: I am also participating in a forum of my peers, where it should be assumed many other people have at least a couple similar connections. But the general conversation here tells me that not only is Factom not informing people publicly, but they're not PMing me or any of you guys about it, either. Or if they are, maybe you have way better connections than me, so they thought you were more worth their time  My thinking here is really more practical than emotional, though... I cannot profit from trading without adequate knowledge I think you are being melodramatic here. People who are truly poor and need money for food are not investing in cryptocurrency full stop. By way of the fact that you are actually on here and have the time and cash to do this puts you into the wealthier part of the world's population. Get things in perspective man. Your arguments are just getting embarrassing now. |
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Metaphors are great explanatory tools when the comparison they make is correct. Yours, however, did not address my argument.
Yes it did you merely don't see it because you don't want to and it would harm your point if you did. You want them to mollycoddle you and I am pointing out it is not what real companies do and it is also not a concern to them whether you are informed or not about their day to day activities. They are working on the important part of their business and not pandering to babies. It is like buying Apple shares and expecting Tim Cook to update you on what is happening behind the scenes everyday. That is not going to happen. If you believe in the project you hold, if not you sell. It's pretty simple - complaining because they don't provide daily updates is just unrealistic. |
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I share your sentiments regarding this user but it's pointless to engage them so why bother?
I hope that this thread stays grounded in reality and technically focused. Something that's lacking in most threads.
You are correct of course. The problem is his spamming posts tend to bury any rational points that anyone makes. I was just trying to make the point that given the current environment it is not a good time to do an ICO - even if it is backing a solid project. Postponing until after the dust has settled and things are more stable would be prudent. Be prepared for him to continue spamming to dilute any such arguments though. |
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Really, it's not retarded to suggest that I sold my Factoids because I was LONELY, and that other developers offered me dinner dates and blowjobs? Yes it is. Just listen to that idea.
Lol what is retarded is concrete thinking. It is one of the signs of a psychotic disorder. Sorry I assumed you could understand nuance and metaphor. |
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Um, that's a retarded analogy.
No it's retarded to think any different. It is the way most companies work. They don't go around announcing deals before they are made and they don't spoon feed people who are stock holders with daily updates. Owning Factoids is not even the same as owning stock. They owe you nothing. I don't want to talk to Factom because I'm LONELY. I go drinking for that. Then you have more serious problems to worry about then news about Factom. |
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Dude you are everywhere lol. Do you invest in all new ICO's? I try to find the coins with real world potential and then I invest. That's my strategy atm. This one seems promising and might drop a few BTC when ICO starts.  Exactly most people invest with a strategy. This guy just invests in absolutely everything and then spams the thread with the same nonsensical bullshit repeatedly. You can't even reason with him because he is incapable of understanding a logical or rational argument. Now whenever I see his name anywhere it is an immediate red flag for investment - even if it is a decent project - do I want the aggravation of reading his inane nonsense again? |
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What i'm saying is, that you don't have to invest in any crypto coin, if you cannot effort to take a risk... look at the ETH crash, look at the DAO crash... if you don't have money stay away from crypto world from the start.
No you are saying that they should launch at the WORST possible time for an ICO because you are as you have proven multiple times a fan of talking complete crap without any thought or concern for the logic behind your statements. You completely fail to grasp the point but you just keep on talking. That's all you do. I wouldn't be surprised if 99% of the crap on BTC talk is you and your sock-puppet accounts. You show absolutely ZERO judgement in any investment and would put money into absolutely anything no matter how badly organised or implemented it was. That is not a good thing (although you probably think it is). Now I'm sure you will completely miss the point again and give another one of your token spam responses about investing and how it doesn't matter etc...etc... |
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Well, now I'm kinda annoyed that I sold my FCT, but I'm not gonna buy them back. I sold because the Factom team never talks to me or lets me know what they're really doing, even though I'm one of the Community Leaders. I don't know if M2 is next week or next year, or really anything about who they're talking to in China, and that's not only scary but annoying. Even if I miss out on bigger rallies and my wins are relatively smaller, I'll be correct more often if I am knowledgeable and informed, which plenty of other development teams are willing to do--at least for me. It's almost an issue of respect. I'm definitely happy with all the gains I made up until now, though! If you want someone to talk to you visit family, friends or hire a counsellor. I don't understand people complaining about Factom not being their friend, lover and holding their hand. It is a crypto/blockchain company not a friend for hire or an escort service. |
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ICO are always dangerous, i believe everybody knows that, but risk = big rewards, no risk = put your money on the bank with 0.1% interest rate.
So you are saying they are always risky so just launch them haphazardly without any thought? Typical Placebo reasoning. |
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then a lot of them are FUDS ICOs  All of them almost As in most cases you make zero sense. You have nothing valid to contribute and so just spam the thread with nonsense. I was making a serious point but you couldn't help but make a comment. |
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Absolutely the worst time to have an ICO.
curious to hear your reasoning...is it because of the recent ETH hack? That and the spate of recent ICOs including new ones which are about to be launched. There is both a lot of uncertainty and ICO fatigue. |
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Absolutely the worst time to have an ICO.
You again Your are fudding a lot of ICOs lately Your presence is what FUDS ICOs  |
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Absolutely the worst time to have an ICO.
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Please stop spamming this link everywhere. This is not an ethereum board. |
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I think you have not gone thru Wings ' Egg bounty system . Let me explain the procedures so you may SERIOUSLY consider Wings. To eliminate abuses of bounty , Wings developer is hosting https://bounties.wings.ai for which you can easily see your accumulated social networks rewards. Now to me this is quite an innovative way to track down users' activities with regards to its product. Now if you cannot comprehend this, it is not my fault and Im the one who is laughing OK so you are a bounty scrounger then. No wonder you don't care about a successful launch, you are just interested in free money. Get a job |
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I don't think that it will experience the same fate either, just that it will be harder to convince people to trust this enough to put their money in - not wanting that to be true, and thinking that those people would be wrong to ignore Wings because of what happened to The DAO doesn't change that fact. Recognizing it and talking about what can be done may change that fact.
Also I disagree that 'DAO' is just a marketing gimmick: its an actual thing not just a word.
Sensible points. Like it or not perception is a huge part of crypto valuation right now (just like the stock markets) so just ignoring these kind of issues would be foolish. Right now in addition to the DAO/ETH crisis there is also the BTC block halving issue/price instability and there is also a lot of ICO fatigue from the large amount of recent ICOs. All of this should be considered before making a hasty launch. |
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A troll is obviously does not appreciate a great work as you did....
Lol. This is too funny to ignore. What great work? What are you even talking about? If you are not a troll you have definitely lost touch with reality but please continue I could use a laugh. |
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Lol indeed. It's still there. Looks like these scammers have disappeared up their own arses already. Nothing new about polo from dev? No looks like they just did a runner. |
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Lol indeed. It's still there. Looks like these scammers have disappeared up their own arses already. |
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