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1201  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2022 Group Stage Highlights on: September 04, 2022, 12:30:53 PM
To be honest, Macedonia, the time I saw them play, I was surprised by everything they did, they took out one of the heavyweights, but they did not qualify anyway, I wonder if these teams that went to the playoffs will make a difference, I mean Portugal that has a lot to prove and especially to CR7 that has a great commitment, I have always liked Croatian football, the style they have is very particular, besides that they have that style with elegance, I really like it On the other hand, I think that Macedonia will go to the next World Cup, more quotas will be opened and I think that this can benefit them enormously if they maintain the level or raise it even more.

Macedonia shocked the world when they defeated Italy and eliminated their chances of contesting the World Cup.
Macedonia has never won a world cup, Italy has 4 world titles, was it just luck that the goal occurred in the second half stoppage time? I don't think so... Macedonia played very well and deserved to win.
Despite being eliminated by Portugal, I hope that Macedonia continues to evolve and that they can qualify for the next world cup.... I'm curious to see what they are capable of doing.

Yeah, I'm not really sure Macedonia has a great squad. They can play alright but they are not really world cup material to be honest.

Of course, Macedonia can't be compared with top national teams like Brazil or France, but they are still a very good team that has already achieved several great results in these qualifications, such as victories against Germany and Italy away from home, so it is clear that their successes are not accidental.
Macedonia had the misfortune of entering the toughest possible group, with Portugal and Italy, in the additional qualifiers for the World Cup. If they had been lucky in the draw, I have no doubt that they would have qualified for the World Cup.
At the world championship, there are a lot of teams that are weaker than Macedonia.
1202  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers on: September 04, 2022, 12:19:48 PM
This world cup is going to be very competitive you know because we also need to look at Christian Ronaldo now that he's going to be leaving football soon, he would want to play to his strength even though Portugal did not reach the final but he would want to prove to us that he can make another record before leaving football.
Well looking at Spain and there passed history when it comes to world cup, I think this one is going to be interesting and tough for competing team that is going to play to them. I will relax and watch the outcome of this great Matches coming.
No doubt this is world cup, and it's going to be competitive because we have 32 world's best teams in this event and all are coming after having hard fought wins in their relative qualification matches, so it's not easy for anyone to have anything out of range all teams can do better than expectations specially few teams which are very tough and have services of quality players which are playmakers and can bring any result with their skills.

But Christian Ronaldo is not good enough to win this world cup alone for his team because now age factor is also having big impact on him, and he can't do things like which he has done few years back for his team right now if Portugal is going into last eight then surely it's going to be big achievement for them.

Spain, France and England are surely best teams with their quality and players those can do something amazing to win this year's event.

Ronaldo was at his peak 4 years ago at the World Cup in Russia, but it still wasn't enough for Portugal to come even close to a chance to fight for the title of world champion.
Ronaldo today is not even a shadow of that Ronaldo from 4 years ago and realistically Portugal is not one of the favorites of this world championship.
I think the situation is very similar with Argentina and Messi.
In my opinion, the main favorites of this world championship are Brazil and France, and Spain, Germany and England also have good chances.
1203  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: September 04, 2022, 12:12:19 PM

And you all forgot to mention Croatia, which played the final of the 2018 World Cup in Russia and is currently playing very well, and this year in the League of Nations, Croatia won against France and Denmark away from home  Grin
I think Belgium is an old team and their peak was at the 2018 World Cup in Russia when they were third in the world.
Don't forget Uruguay who played in the semi-finals of the 2010 World Cup and are always very good at World Cups and are former two-time world champions.

I'm not really sure Croatia will end up advancing too much in the tournament. Maybe they have been having great results in other tournaments because other teams are not sending their best squads there in preparation for the world cup

Believe me, both France and Denmark played with their strongest teams against Croatia, and at home, but they still had no chance against Croatia and lost the matches.
The matches were in June in the League of Nations, just a few months ago.
Croatia is often underestimated as a team, this was also the case in 1998 at the world championship in France when we were third in the world and in 2018 in Russia when we were second in the world. We always play our best when no one believes in us and when others underestimate us.
1204  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: September 04, 2022, 11:41:42 AM
Sve rečeno je zapravo po ulagačkim pravilima. Tech dionice u pravilu rastu kad je borrowing stopa niska - što neće biti još neko vrijeme.

BTC i kripto općenito i dalje investicijski potpadaju pod 'high risk assets', kao i tech dionice recimo. Nebitno je na koji način mi to vidimo - sad pričam na koji način to vidi tržište.

U nekom rasponu od idućih godinu-dvije, vidim i tech dionice i kripto, kao i velike indekse (SPX, NDQ, FTSE, DJ, DE...) niže nego što su trenutno. Zaštita od pada je definitivno u obveznicama - barem kako se trenutno čini.

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Da se ne shvati krivo - ne mislim da trebamo pobjeći glavom bez obzira iz tech stocksa i kripta. Baš suprotno, mislim da će biti odličnih prilika - ali i da one još nisu došle.

Gledajući povijest izgledno je da niske kamatne stope dobar dio nas neće vidijeti u ovom životu. Idući val niskih kamatnih stopa kakav smo imali zadnjih 20ak godina bi se mogao ponoviti tek za 50ak godina. Istina je da visoke kamatne stope ne pogoguju investicijama kod kojih se nadamo visokoj vrijednosti u budućnosti, ali i te tvrtke će jednom imati dobru trenutnu vrijednost. Prijemjer je tesla. Kad je sve krenulo postojala je samo vizija, ali danas se ipak ti auti voze cestama, i možda jednog dana uzmu značajan tržišni udio. Isto je i za crypto. Možda se jedan dan bude koristio neki crypto za zemljišne knjige, ili vlasništvo dionica, ili nešto deseto.

Ti si baš ''klasa optimist''  Grin
Ja ipak vjerujem da će ti ciklusi biti kraći, i da će se inflacija puno brže ispuhati, te da će središnje banke prestati dizati kamatne stope, vjerojatno već do kraja 2023.
Dugoročno (u idućih nekoliko godina) će se riješiti i opskrba energentima i promijeniti velika ovisnost EU o Rusiji ali kratkoročno svi ćemo patiti zbog toga što će cijene svega, od hrane do energenata, ići u nebo a plaće to neće moći pratiti.
Čim se budu vidjele prve naznake oporavka, zaustavljanja inflacije i usporavanja dizanja kamatnih stopa, ponovno će se početi više ulagati i u tzv. rizičnije investicije poput dionica i kripta, i mislim da ćemo ponovno vidjeti veći rast kripto tržišta.
Što se tiče korištenja kripta za zemljišne knjige i sl. mislim da je veća šansa da država uvede digitalnu verziju svoje valute za tako nešto.
1205  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 03, 2022, 12:29:26 PM
Saturday's gossip:

Paris St-Germain offered Neymar to Manchester City just before the transfer deadline - but the Premier League champions turned down the chance to sign the Brazil forward. This would be really shocking news if it really happened and says a lot about the relationship between the club and Neymar, which is clearly not good. In Manchester, they obviously assessed that they don't need Neymar because of the package that comes with him, difficult character, quarrels and conflicts in the team, frequent injuries etc.
Manchester United's football director John Murtough has accepted the club should have abandoned talks over signing Netherland midfielder Frenkie de Jong, 25, from Barcelona much earlier than they did. They concluded it well at the end of that whole story. Does Manchester even have a long-term football strategy regarding football transfers? I don't think so. Every season we see complete chaos and disorganization.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/62773289
1206  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: September 03, 2022, 12:18:36 PM
I have to admit that I didn't really like Serena Williams before, somehow she seemed too arrogant to me, but now I'm actually sorry that she lost her match and that we won't see her in tennis anymore.
It really seems incredible that she just played her last professional match in the tennis career. She was really very good in this tournament and it seems to me that she could have played at a very high level for a few more years, regardless of the age.
After such good matches, I sincerely hope that she will change her mind about tennis retirement  Cheesy
1207  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers on: September 03, 2022, 12:10:11 PM
In my view Brazil has excellent players all around, even their worst players are extremely talented. It's rare to see a team like that. They also have superstars but the rest of the team is absolutely fantastic as well, so I would say that they will perform great even without the superstars.

Brazil maybe tough to beat even without Neymar. But the chances of an upset will definitely go up. And what I have noticed is that during the last few years, Brazil has maintained its quality, while those of some of the European countries have gone down. You guys may not notice this, because most of the time UEFA nations play amongst each other. And Brazil adjusts better if the matches are being held outside their continent. On the other hand, UEFA teams always struggle when the matches are held outside Europe.

Did you come to the conclusion that some European national teams started playing weaker based on some matches in the League of Nations this year?
Yes, it is true that some national teams, like France and England, played badly in the League of Nations, but it is not really a serious competition and coaches mostly try out new, young players, and the result is not the most important thing. Don't worry, all these national teams will be fully prepared for the World Cup in Qatar.
UEFA teams always struggle when the matches are held outside Europe? Are you sure about that? At the 2010 world championship in South Africa, Spain became the world champion, and in 2014 in Brazil, Germany became the world champion.
1208  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2022 Group Stage Highlights on: September 03, 2022, 12:02:12 PM
Yes, I remember that part, what strikes me is that after that successful world, Russia is no longer in this World Cup, of course, like Italy, Sweden, they are countries that are really worth seeing, like their fans, I think that the countries that go for these teams will be seen differently, I am a little anxious to see this World Cup, the fact that it is until November is something new for me, but I do know that this Christmas will be much happier for having the World Cup at this time, it will be of another level and I want to see and I am curious to see some teams from countries that qualified in the playoffs, how will their behavior be when they have to play against the greats.

Russia would have qualified for the world cup, but based on the complaints by Poland and Ukraine, FIFA decided to suspend their participation. If Russia can be suspended for the war against Ukraine, then I don't know why the US was not banned after their invasions of Iraq, Syria and Libya. Anyway, Russia will be missed, along with the teams that failed to qualify such as Italy. In case of the latter, it was unexpected. I never imagined in my wildest dreams that they will lose to North Macedonia. Lesson learnt. Never ever underestimate Goran Pandev.

I watched Russia's matches because they played in the qualifying group with Croatia and they didn't impress me at all. They played a lot of games poorly and were lucky to get points.
Slovakia completely outplayed them in the match in Russia and completely undeservedly lost the key match for second place in the group and additional qualifications.
Russia quite luckily made it to the additional qualifications for the World Cup, but there they would have no chance of qualifying for the World Cup.
Macedonia's successes are no longer a surprise. Before Italy, they also beat Germany away from home. Only those who have not been following this national team lately can be surprised. This is a great team.
To be honest, Macedonia, the time I saw them play, I was surprised by everything they did, they took out one of the heavyweights, but they did not qualify anyway, I wonder if these teams that went to the playoffs will make a difference, I mean Portugal that has a lot to prove and especially to CR7 that has a great commitment, I have always liked Croatian football, the style they have is very particular, besides that they have that style with elegance, I really like it On the other hand, I think that Macedonia will go to the next World Cup, more quotas will be opened and I think that this can benefit them enormously if they maintain the level or raise it even more.


Macedonia is not a surprise for me, don't forget that they also beat Germany away in the group stage of the World Cup qualifiers. It is their misfortune that the draw of additional qualifications awarded them the two strongest national teams, Portugal and Italy. If they had at least a little luck in the draw, they would now be preparing for the world championship in Qatar.
Croatia has been playing at a very high level for a very long time, and in 1998 they were third in the world, and in 2018 they were second in the world, which is proof that it is not a matter of luck but deserved results. I think they will be very good again in Qatar. 
1209  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 Discussion Thread on: September 03, 2022, 11:55:51 AM
You can see the odds for the winner of the UEFA Nations League here: http://sportstatist.com/who-will-win-uefa-nations-league-winner-betting-odds/

Interesting statistics. Bettors still believe much more in Denmark than in Croatia, even though Croatia beat both France and Denmark away from home in June, and now in the match with Denmark at home, the first place in the group is decided directly.
I wonder what chances they gave France before the games in June?  Grin
Probably better than Denmark and Croatia today  Cheesy

Denmark 8.50

Croatia 17.00
1210  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: September 03, 2022, 11:47:32 AM

Everyone says how it is so obvious that Bayern will qualify for the next round. I would rather say that there chances in the group are the best, but why on earth would they win guaranteed against Inter? The situation isn't even that easy. Barcelona can take home 3 relatively easy points and Bayern plays an away game. Now imagine Bayern loses that one. The second game against Barcelona will be extreme pressure right away. The first game will be very important for Bayern's further season.
In terms of strength Inter and Barcelona are indeed one of the big teams currently in their respective leagues.
But we also have to look at other factors where even though Inter are strong they still lose in any case to Bayern. As for Barcelona, we know what their history is when they face Bayern, so it's not too much of a stretch.
I will never underestimate a match in the UCL, remembering in the previous season how Bayern Munich had to lose to Villareal even though it was far different from the statistics but in fact Bayern can lose so therefore I will not underestimate Inter even if it is Bayern Munich's opponent.

Barcelona is now a little different I think Xavi's boys will be stronger than Inter but even though overall in the UCL every match no one can predict it, then believe me that this hell group will fight each other in the group phase with a very tough.

Villareal was really a special case last season because they played very well in the Champions League but they were not so good in the Spanish League and because of that they will not play in the Champions League again this season but in the Conference League.
Very good news for Bayern and Juve  Grin
Xavi has really done a lot to raise the level of Barcelona's game, brought in great new young players, and Barcelona will be one of the champions league favorites again this year.
I believe that currently Barcelona is a better team than Inter.
1211  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: September 03, 2022, 11:40:49 AM
Well we already started with the surprise of not having Italy in this world cup.

I hope the Netherlands actually managed to win this world cup, it would be an epic thing to achieve for them, because they are always so close to winning it
Yep, great observation!
I believe, almost all the cups that Italy participated, it was always a competitive team.

Netherlands, Germany, Brazil, Argentina, Italy, England and Spain are always one of the favorites to win the World Cup (of course, in my opinion).
I didn't research it, but I'm pretty sure that these 7 teams I mentioned were in at least the top 3 of the last World Cups we've had.

Oh, a team that I analyzed that has been evolving a lot is Belgium, this country has excellent players, they are young and with each passing year Belgium soccer evolves more, I have no doubt that it will be a competitive team in this World Cup.


Spain at South Africa 2010, Germany at Brazil 2014,  France at Russia 2018
You failed to mention France who won the Fifa World Cup last
Belgium tends to be strong but when going gets going they fall back

And you all forgot to mention Croatia, which played the final of the 2018 World Cup in Russia and is currently playing very well, and this year in the League of Nations, Croatia won against France and Denmark away from home  Grin
I think Belgium is an old team and their peak was at the 2018 World Cup in Russia when they were third in the world.
Don't forget Uruguay who played in the semi-finals of the 2010 World Cup and are always very good at World Cups and are former two-time world champions.
1212  Other / Meta / Re: What type of posts attract merit? on: September 03, 2022, 11:30:48 AM
OP, I checked your forum posts, and more than half of your posts are actually applications for different Bounty Campaigns.
Given that, I understand why you are interested in merits  Grin
I assume you want to advance in the forum so that you can participate in higher paying btc signature campaigns.
To be able to do that, you will have to raise the quality of your posts on the forum, and be someone who helps other members with your knowledge and experience. So, first you will have to gain some knowledge and experience, and that takes time.
1213  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: New to it. on: September 03, 2022, 11:13:56 AM
Simple question where do I start with Bitcoins?

The answer to this question primarily depends on you, your knowledge, experience and your life plans.
Are you someone who is primarily interested in the technology behind bitcoin and want to study it?
Maybe you have money that you want to invest in bitcoin and hold it as a long-term investor?
Maybe you want to do cryptocurrency trading?
Are you looking for opportunities to make money on this forum? You need to be much more specific so that we can help you more.
1214  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Crypto business isn't for everyone on: September 03, 2022, 11:05:54 AM
odunybiz, the tips you wrote are actually not only valid for investing in crypto but for any investment in the financial market.
There is no investment that immediately guarantees a safe and quick return on investment and a big profit.
It seems to me that crypto is still a big unknown to ordinary people and that they analyze crypto very superficially, and make investment decisions based on some stories they read and often with unrealistic expectations.
Every investment is always a risk, and that's why you should start investing only after a detailed market analysis and with realistic goals and a clear exit strategy.
1215  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Altcoin novosti on: September 03, 2022, 10:58:17 AM
ne znam da li je neko dobio mail od Celsius platforme, ali u izvestaju sa treceg saslusanja je interesatna recenica u vezi korisnika sa manje je 7500 dolara na racunu

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Among the many important matters discussed was a motion that we filed with the Court requesting that customers with certain Custody and Withhold accounts should be granted the ability to withdraw the amount of digital assets owed to them in those accounts.

 
At this time, the motion is focused on assets currently owed in Custody and Withhold accounts that were never in the Earn or Borrow Program, as well as Custody and Withhold accounts where transfers from the Earn and Borrow Programs were, in the aggregate, less than USD $7,575 (a specific legal threshold), for users that do not have outstanding loans.

razresenje bi trebalo da bude pocetkom Oktobra

Iskreno, nadam se da je vijest vjerodostojna i da će tzv. mali ulagači u celsius ipak na kraju uspijeti dobiti svoja sredstva nazad.
Vjerujem da je takvih malih ulagača sigurno najviše i stvarno bi bilo najpoštenije da prvo njih riješe i da oni ne moraju čekati godinama na sudsko rješenje o povratu novca.
Celsius je zaista djelovao kao jako dobar i siguran projekt i mislim da nitko nije mislio da bi moglo doći do ovoga.
Sretno svima koji imaju sredstva u Celsiusu.
 
1216  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Pregled Bitcointalk Signature-Ad kampanja on: September 03, 2022, 10:51:46 AM
Osim toga, ta kampanja bi samo odmogla našem lokalu jer bi sigurno još manje pisao na hrvatskom pa ću se žrtvovati i neću se prijaviti Grin
Onda moram ozbiljno porazgovarati sa Trofom i još nekim članovima da napravimo jednu specijalnu kampanju samo za tebe, i svi naši lokalni članovi moraju donirati za ovaj slučaj.
Spasite zemlju i sačuvajte naš lokalni forum od neaktivnosti, podržite slackovica za bolju budućnost foruma.
Mislim da bi bolje prošao nego Plenković u Splitu na nedavnom otvaranju Europskog vaterpolskog prvenstva  Cheesy


Očito da nema druge nego treba započeti akciju spašavanja vojnika Ryana tj. slackovica  Grin
Pratim te kampanje pod services i nadao sam se da bi se nešto uskoro moglo otvoriti za slackovica u Cloudbet kampanji a kad tamo kampanja završila:

Guys, the campaign is currently paused as Cloudbet is currently testing other marketing opportunities.

All posts written from Monday to today have already been paid in full.


It was a pleasure to work with each of you, so I will be waiting for you in the next campaign under my management.



Slackovicu, baš nemaš sreće, kada se neto dobro nudi ti ljenčariš na moru a kad se vratiš kampanje se počnu zatvarati  Grin
Ništa, moramo nastaviti dalje tražiti nešto što bi ti odgovaralo.
1217  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: September 03, 2022, 10:47:45 AM
Nisam već dugo bio na Hrvatskom bitcoin portalu i naišao sam na neke zanimljive vijesti, koje sam odlučio podijeliti kao zanimljive informacije  Cheesy

Tako recimo čitam da tzv. glavni globalni strateg (zar i to postoji) JPMorgan-a predlaže ulagačima da izbjegavaju tehnološke dionice s velikom kapitalizacijom, Bitcoin i kriptovalute općenito te da trebaju ulagati u dionice, dugoročne obveznice i druge alternative za stvaranje prihoda  Grin
Samo neka se oni maknu od nas što dalje  Cheesy
Izvor: https://crobitcoin.com/jpmorgan-savjetuje-ulagace-da-prodaju-kripto-i-kupuju-dionice/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news

U drugom članku, špekulira se kako će kriza u EU utjecati na kripto tržište i zaključuje da će produbljavanje krize u EU, i s tim povezan ast inflacije i jačanje dolara, negativno utjecati na tržište dionica i kriptovaluta.

Izvor: https://crobitcoin.com/kako-europska-kriza-utjece-na-kripto-trziste/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news

i na kraju, vijest koja me je baš oduševila.
''Nedavno istraživanje koje je provela edukacijska platforma Study.com otkrilo je da 64% roditelja u SAD-u smatra da bi kriptovalute i blockchain tehnologija trebali biti sastavni dio programa obveznih nastavnih predmeta.''

''Zanimljivo je da je 68% roditelja priznalo da ulažu u kriptovalute. ''

Znači li to da polako idemo prema mainstreamu?  Grin

Izvor: https://crobitcoin.com/64-roditelja-zeli-da-im-djeca-u-skoli-uce-o-blockchainu-i-kriptovalutama/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news
1218  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zbirni topic za davanje merita za kvalitetne postove i za korisne informacije on: September 03, 2022, 10:32:02 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5296177.msg60875626#msg60875626

vise zbog vidljivosti, izgleda da se ide u pravcu da se prvo resi sudbina korisnika sa manje od 7500 dolara na racunu, u Celsius sagi o bankrotu

nije lako za poverovati, ali prema izvestaju, njima ce se prvima omoguciti povlacenje sredstava

Hvala na ovom update-u CasperBGD, nadam se da će se taj prijedlog i realizirati u konačnici i da će svi ovi tzv. mali korisnici ipak doći do svojih sredstava.
Realno, vjerojatno se radi o velikoj većini korisnika Celsiusa i to bi za njih bila super vijest ali dok se to ne dogodi, bolje se ne nadati previše, i ostati čvrsto na zemlji.
Sretno svima koji čekaju povrat sredstava iz Celsiusa.
Ima li još tko nešto zanimljivo za podijeliti?
1219  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Mogu napraviti Kripto Projekt - Pročitaj on: September 03, 2022, 10:27:17 AM
Već smo bili odabrali i naziv tvog novog tokena, koji je ono bio naziv, sad se ne mogu sjetiti, neka ''provala'' jednog političara koji nije znao kako se izgovara bitcoin..?
To je onaj domaći medvjed Milorad Dodik. Bigtoin Grin
Rekao je nešto tipa da neki stanovnici Republike Srpske ilegalno rudare bigtoin i iskorištavaju resurse i električnu infrastrukturu Republike Srpske. A on će tome stati u kraj i zabraniti rudarenja Bigtoina. Grin

Kako ga samo Kesić dobro imitira.

Da, baš on, hvala što si nas podsjetio na tu priču.
Evo, samo da je Trofo imao vremena za ovaj projekt , mogla je to biti vrlo zanimljiva priča u našim lokalnim okvirima, koju smo čak mogli ''prodati'' i novinarima i povećati zanimanje za ovaj projekt.
Možda smo čak i ovog političara mogli zamoliti da bude glavni sponzor projekta  Grin
Na žalost, Trofo nam je zauzet pa izgleda ništa od toga.
1220  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Porez na bitcoin i kriptovalute 2018-2019 on: August 31, 2022, 06:37:56 PM
Ja sam isto tako mislio da taj Ured za pranje novca može nadzirati sve naše transakcije u banci cijelo vrijeme ali očito nije tako i mogu krenuti u nadzor tek nakon prijave banke.

Ne bih se baš previše pouzdao u taj članak jer je dosta površan i očito pisan navrat-nanos bez detaljne provjere podataka. Recimo, novinar implicira i da Lamborghini košta negdje između 10k kn i 200k kn, što bi bio vrlo jeftini Lamborghini. Smiley

Sad sam išao pogledati zakon i tamo ima nekoliko cifri: za 105k+ kn i za 1k+ eura banka treba napraviti dubinsku analizu stranke, za 200k+ u gotovini treba prikupiti namjenu transakcije, bilo koja pravna osoba (valjda osim banaka) ne smije uopće prihvatiti transakcije u gotovini iznad 75k kn.

Koliko vidim nabrzaka čitanjem zakona, banke moraju same sastaviti nekakvu listu kriterija po kojima će transakciju smatrati sumnjivom, i u interesu im je da to dobro naprave jer će platiti velike kazne ako neku takvu transakciju ne detektiraju, i zatim bez obzira na iznos sve sumnjive transakcije dostavljaju Poreznoj. Dakle, nije nužno da dostavljaju svaku transakciju, ali nema nekog konkretnog limita za bezgotovinske transakcije. Postoji i neki godišnji izvještaj gdje se ne dostavljaju konkretne transakcije, ali se dostavljaju ukupni prihodi po računima i slične statistike po kojima onda Porezna uspoređuje je li tu bilo prihoda koji nisu prijavljeni. Vjerujem da postoji i neka procedura

Dakle, rezime je da nema limita i fiksnih pravila, i stvari ne funkcioniraju tako da Porezna gleda sve transakcije pa onda nešto provjerava, nego su zaposlili banke (i bilježnike itd) da im rade posao, a onda još oni dodatno vrte provjere na godišnjoj bazi. U tom kontekstu je vjerojatno i ovo u članku, prvo će banka dostaviti neku "sumnjivu transakciju" a onda PNUSKOK može zatražiti dodatne podatke, ali čisto sumnjam da ne postoji neka procedura po kojoj mogu zatražiti podatke o nekome tko im je sumnjiv i bez da banka prvo nešto dostavi.

Hvala Domchi na svim detaljnim i provjerenim informacijama, kao i uvijek.
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