Actually Group C going to make some change in this tournament.Because Argentina is the good team with huge good players in it.And the Group G will be lead by the Brazil.The tough competition in the football will be this two team.We all know the legacy of this two team,they had potential to win the game with their own strategy.Strategy is not based on the team players alone,it also depends on the players potential in the game.Lionel Messi is enough for the full team spirit.Messi is not only the key player of the team,he will guide the full team to the match and make them to win at all point.As we know this two team had world class players.They will play like a 11 players as compared to rest of the team members of other country.This was unique with European playing the game in Islamic county.
Group C has Argentina, Poland, Mexico, and Saudi Arabia. Of course Argentina is the powerhouse there, but Mexico and Poland are quite good teams actually, so it will be a bit of a challenge for Argentina to lead there. Saudi Arabia will probably not go to the next stage, but I'm not so sure about who are the two teams that will go. It would be a massive disappointment if Argentina doesn't make it to the next round, but there is a chance of that with Poland and Mexico there. I think it would really be a huge surprise if Argentina, one of the main favorites of this world championship, does not pass the group and does not advance to the knockout stage of the competition. A team that has Messi always has a chance to win  I believe that Poland and Mexico will fight for the second place in this group, and I give a slight advantage to Poland because of Lewandowski. In this group, Saudi Arabia definitely has no chance of advancing to the knockout stage of the competition. |
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what or which European teams ?? weren't you watching how bad most of their best teams performed in the the nations league ?? a lot of them lost with humiliating results, on the other hand Brazil been winning almost every match, even friendlies with convincing wins as well, they weren't against big teams but European teams lost against some weak nations, i think it's easy to say that Brazil are better.
There is no doubt that at this point, Brazil is the strong favorite to win the world cup in Qatar. Almost all the European teams are in bad shape. England got relegated to League B of UEFA nations league after finishing at the last place in their group. Germany was in the same group, and they did slightly better by finishing at the 3rd place below Italy and Hungary. Belgium is another team that failed to perform, as they finished beneath Netherlands in Group 4. France avoided relegation, but they had just 5 points from 6 matches in Group 1. I think you give too much importance to the league of nations and the results of some teams in that competition. The main focus of all European national teams this year is the world cup, and all other matches are just preparation for that main and most important competition. i'm just comparing them to Brazil, Brazil are playing friendlies but they still manage to win effortlessly, are they the only ones playing seriously in friendlies and just European teams are not ?? no, Brazil are winning almost every match they play including friendlies unlike European teams, that's all i'm saying, and with that i can say that they are better. Ok, I agree with you, the Brazilian team is better in friendlies this year than most European teams, but do you really think that means anything? Brazil is the main favorite for the title in every world championship, but they haven't been world champions for 20 years, they always lacked something even though they were fantastic in friendly matches. I remember the World Cup in Brazil in 2014 when everyone expected that Brazil, as the host of the tournament, would use that great advantage and become world champions, but they experienced a disastrous defeat in the semi-finals against Germany. Mental stability is often more important than other factors in football when equal teams play. It seems that Brazilian football players play better and easier in friendly matches than in official matches when they are under much more pressure and stress. |
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Andy Murray lost today in Gijon against Korda 2-1 , Murray was the underdog so it was not shocking that he lost, the American is one of my personal favorite young players, i saw him play a couple of matches before, he is pretty good, he didn't quite blow up but he's still young, i'm pretty sure he can win a big title in the future.
After short break this is the highest reach of Andy Murray reaching Quarter Final. In his previous tournaments he used to end with group stages or by the third round. As age pass, his performance keeps moving downwards. More young players are ready to dominate the tennis world. One amongst them is Korda. Yeah, I think this is the highest that Andy Murray has reach in a tournament thus far, so it's not that bad however still very tough tournament for him as he lost to a young Korda. So Korda will be facing Rublev now. I will go with Rublev in this one. I thight Rublev has some confidence but probably this will be extended into 3 sets, I reckon. Andy Murray is finished and that happened a long time ago. Now he just plays tournaments and if he gets to the quarter finals its a big achievement for him. He goes on the tournament just because those tournaments invite him because he is a large name,but he aint a threat to anyone. Yes, although he made a comeback and get his fans excited, I doubt think that he can bring back the clock. He might be satisfied on entering tournament and see how far he can go or even winning (and losing) against young guys. I guess though the competitive spirit is still inside of him. Nevertheless, might be in a couple of years he might go and retire. Andy Murray OBE is quite old at this point. It is doubtful that there is a lot of expectation from him after this win, regardless of the fact that he has reached the highest position in this tournament so far in his career. I would have to say that it was an exceptionally remarkable performance from him at this age (35 years old). It is one of the things that I like about him that he is competitive. It's unclear whether he possesses the physical attributes needed to maintain his competitive nature. In any case, it won't be for very long. Furthermore, I also think that there is a good chance that he will play one or two more years. However, I am not expecting him to do anything spectacular during that time. Andy Murray is a tennis legend, one of the greatest tennis players in history, but unfortunately two factors in his career prevented him from becoming an even bigger and better tennis player. The first fact is that he played in the era of the three greatest tennis players in history, and the second fact is his numerous injuries that ruined his tennis career. If it weren't for that, his tennis career would have been even bigger. It's obvious how much he loves playing tennis and that it is difficult for him to end his tennis career, but it is obvious that it will happen soon. |
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I agree that in every world cup the hosts have a slight advantage, but personally I think Qatar is probably the weakest host ever in a world cup in terms of team quality and I don't expect them to make it to the knockout stages of the world cup.
The Netherlands is one of the favorites of this world championship, and Senegal, if I remember correctly, is the runner-up of Africa.
Senegal also have a good chance of reaching the knockout stages of the World Cup and perhaps equaling their greatest World Cup success, the quarter-finals at the 2002 World Cup.
If I am not mistaken in the history of the World Cup, there have been at most a couple of exceptions when the hosts of the tournament did not advance from the group to the next round of the competition. Qatar has every chance to add to the list of these exceptions, although given their strong corrupt "magic" with which they generally got the right to host the tournament, you can expect some surprises, haha. I'm not completely sure, but as far as I know, at least in recent history, it has never happened that the host of the World Cup did not pass the group and not advance to the knockout stage of the competition. However, due to the quality of their team, Qatar does not deserve to play in this World Cup and I believe that they have a minimal chance to pass the group and reach the knockout stage of the competition. If they aren't the hosts, we certainly wouldn't be watching them at this world championship, just as we haven't seen them at previous world championships either. |
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Why newbies get banned?
I would say for the same reason as other forum members, for breaking forum rules.
The most important rule on this forum, and the same as on many other places on the Internet, is that everything we write somewhere and publish publicly should be our own work or thought, and not a copied article from another Internet user.
The biggest mistake on this forum, other than financial fraud, is to steal someone else's idea or thought and pass it off as your own idea.
If you pay attention to that, you won't have any problems on this forum.
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Ne smijes trgovati. Mozes samo kupiti, holdati i cekati da prode 2 godine. Tek onda vazi 0% poreza.
Nope, kripto - kripto trejdovi su dozvoljeni (USDT i ostali stablecoini također). Možeš kupiti 1 BTC 2020., istrejdati ga bez izlaska u FIAT tako da imaš 8 BTC-a i najnormalnije bez plaćanja ikakvog poreza izvući 8 BTC-a van. Naravno, moraš imati izlist svih tradeova s exchangeova i tu nastaje problem. Neki exchangeovi to baš i ne vode najbolje i ne možeš izvaditi više od 6 mj unazad, neki su propali pa uopće ne možeš, dio love zaradiš trejdanjem NFT-ova na Openseau, dio ako se kladiš, dio ako nešto stakeaš.. i onda si u 1000 problema. A da ne govorimo koliko prosječni trejder može imati takvih transakcija u 2 godine ako trguje na dnevnoj bazi. Njegov FIFO može biti na stotine stranica, a s obzirom da ne možeš uvijek dobiti sve podatke sa exchangeova, to ponekad može postati nemoguća misija, prikazati baš sve. Zapravo je glupo što poreznici kripto trgovanje tretiraju kao i trgovanje klasičnim dionicama i jednostavno su prepisali ista pravila sa klasične burze na kripto burzu. I dok na klasičnoj burzi ima jako malo transakcija i lako ih je sve ispisati, kod kripto burzi to je zaista kompliciran posao. Nadam se da će na onom savjetovanju UBIK-a biti nekog pomaka po ovom pitanju. |
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I tako će obični Rusi zbog rata u Ukrajini ostati i bez svojih kripto sredstava. OK, ovo će vjerojatno funkcionirati za sva službena kripto plaćanja preko portala koji su u EU i koji preko IP adresa mogu blokirati korisnike iz zabranjenih zemalja ali što s onima koji koriste VPN vezu? A ima i puno drugih, pametnih načina zaobilaženja ove zabrane pa me baš zanima kako će ovo funkcionirati u praksi. Koliko ovi birokrati u EU uopće razumiju kako kripto funkcionira? Funkcionirati će na način da će firme koje vole spuštati gaće vlastima i provode KYC jednostovno svima s Ruskom putovnicom blokirati račune. Oni koji ne rade KYC će blokirati ruske IP adrese i to je to. Nešto se postiglo, poruka je poslana.... Dio će kao i uvijek izbjeći sankcije. Upravo tako. Većina će se snaći i zaobići sankcije preko VPN-a ili na druge načine ali EU birokrati će biti zadovoljni sami sa sobom jer su na povećem popisu sankcija dodali još jednu stavku, zabranu kripto transakcija Kao da Ruska vlada prodaje naftu i plin za bitcoine pa je to sada nešto jako važno i bitno u cijeloj priči lol Najviše će sa ovim zeznuti obične ruske građane, koji nemaju nikakve veze sa politikom svoje zemlje. A firme u EU koje imaju opcije kripto plaćanja samo će promijeniti postavke da onemoguće plaćanje sa ruskih IP adresa, što i nije teško zaobići većini prosječnih korisnika Interneta, tako da sama mjera neće imati nikakvog pravog efekta. |
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Tako da, dobro zamišljeno, ali opet ništa nev ide bez ugovora, tvog OIB-a i plaćanja poreza.
Pa to se podrazumijeva, nego je cilj potrositi sto vise crypto kesa, uz naravno dio preko racuna. Totalno je iracionalno "štediti" na porezu tih 10%, i time iz nečeg legalnog ući u sferu kriminala, tj. zatajenja poreza i pranja novca. Tako i tako će ti se majstori napiti krvi i opljačkati te do te mjere da će ti trošak same nekretnine biti ugodna uspomena.  Nije problem ni platiti porez da je to izvedeno na jednostavan nacin, ali bar sudeci po ovome sto se ovdje pise to je poprilicno komplicirano te zato svi ljude koje znam na sve moguce nacine izbjegavaju ista prijavljivati te trose crypto lovu na svakakave nacine. Dao Bog da se to sve pojednostavi kroz koju godinu pa onda nece ni biti potrebe za svim tim vratolomijama a drzava ce pokupiti vise poreza.
Ono sto mene zanima je da li itko pozna nekoga koga je porezna izjebala zbog kripto love? Ili da je prijavio ali su ga naknadano trazili dodatne dokaze koje nije mogao dati, ili da nije prijavio nista a sjela mu lova na racun pa je onda kasnije bilo problema. Zapravo, ako si kupio kripto prije više od 2 godine, i trgovao sa njim cijelo vrijeme, jednostavno povučeš sredstva na svoj račun, u fiat, i ne plaćaš nikakav porez. Jedino ako si kripto držao kraće od 2 godine moraš prijaviti i platiti tih 10 % poreza, ali nije bi to toliki problem. Jedino ćeš se malo namučiti oko FIFO evidencije, ali to ćeš ionako napraviti samo jednom, kod povlačenja kripta na račun. Ne razumijem zašto se uopće zezati nekakvim šemama skrivanja kripta ako uopće ne moraš platiti porez ili plaćaš samo minimalni porez? |
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what or which European teams ?? weren't you watching how bad most of their best teams performed in the the nations league ?? a lot of them lost with humiliating results, on the other hand Brazil been winning almost every match, even friendlies with convincing wins as well, they weren't against big teams but European teams lost against some weak nations, i think it's easy to say that Brazil are better.
There is no doubt that at this point, Brazil is the strong favorite to win the world cup in Qatar. Almost all the European teams are in bad shape. England got relegated to League B of UEFA nations league after finishing at the last place in their group. Germany was in the same group, and they did slightly better by finishing at the 3rd place below Italy and Hungary. Belgium is another team that failed to perform, as they finished beneath Netherlands in Group 4. France avoided relegation, but they had just 5 points from 6 matches in Group 1. I think you give too much importance to the league of nations and the results of some teams in that competition. The main focus of all European national teams this year is the world cup, and all other matches are just preparation for that main and most important competition. The players of France, England and Germany came to the Nations League matches very tired and without motivation. The World Cup will be a completely different story and it will show the true strength and quality of each national team. France, England and Germany, along with Spain, Belgium, Brazil and Argentina, remain the main favorites of the world championship. |
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Partizan won against Koln again. Congrats to fellow Bitcointalkers who support this team  After this win they have good chances not just to reach next round, but take 1st place in group. Esepcially after unexpected Nice loss against Slovacko. Happy for first Zalgiris win which keep their chances to reach next round. Game against Pyunik ended 2:1, but Zalgiris wasted so many chances that it could ended 5:1 or 6:1. In other group game Slovan and Basel echanged goals - 3:3. Now situation in this group is very interesting - between 1st and 4th places there is just 3 points gap. For me biggest upset today is Cluj win against Slavia. They were big underdogs, but managed to score 2 goals, Slavia failed to score, despite making 24 shots, 4 on target. Thanks,now with Nice losing to Slovacko o most an insane scenario must happen so that we dont qualify,we just need also a draw against Nice to be first in the group so this is a huge achievement for us and if we continue to play like this we might even see quarters or the semi finals. Slavia Prague is really disapointing this season. They were much better before and now they are losing some serious amount of points and they were considered as one of the favorites to win the group. Congratulations for the great results of Partizan this season in the conference league. It's really not easy to beat the respected German premier league team, Koln twice in a few weeks. I actually expected a lot more from another Serbian club, Crvena Zvezda, but they didn't even manage to qualify for the Champions League and it seems that they will be relegated from the Europa League as well. With a little luck, Partizan could make a big European result this season. From what I've seen, they play very well. I also expected much more from Slavia and for me they are a big disappointment. |
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Barcelona still has a chance in the 2nd leg later. We can't see that Barca will definitely fail to advance to the knock-out stages. Because, their appearance in La Liga has shown a positive trend. With all the problem that Barcelona have, they currently have a solid team. Only 3 points behind Inter, this is not the end considering there are still 2 matches left. There could be a surprise in this week 5 & 6.
Although Barcelona has a positive trend in La Liga, it doesn't guarantee to win in UCL. In the next match, Barcelona will play against Bayern Munich, it is the strongest club in C. Bayern Munich wants to secure their position at the top table, so they will try all out to get 3 points. So, they won't give a chance for Barcelona to steal points. Even if the match will be held in Barcelona home, Bayern attackers look still too strong for Barcelona defenders. This makes me doubt that Barcelona to win it. In fact, Bayern have already secured passage to the knockout stage of the Champions League, and this game does not mean much to them. On the other hand, Barcelona has almost no chance to make it to the knockout stage of the Champions League, as Inter will not miss the chance to beat Victoria in the next round and secure a place in the knockout stage of the Champions League. In the matches against the strongest teams of the group (Inter and Bayern), Barcelona won only 1 point in 3 matches and deservedly loses the chance to continue the competition in the Champions League. Barcelona will once again, like last season, be eliminated from the Champions League already in the group stage of the competition and only qualify for the European League. Another big disappointment for their fans. |
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This is all Barcelona's fault in the end as they couldn't stay solid from the beginning. I was pretty sure about them to qualify for next round before the group matches started. I was even thinking about whether they would manage to be the leader at the end. But they are about to visit the Europa League two times in a row now.
Barcelona is in such a position because of their own fault. To be specific, Barcelona dropped points in two matches against Inter Milan due to the poor performance of their defenders. Barcelona also had tactical problems. Barcelona's attack was inactive in the first two matches against Inter Milan and Bayern Munich. Barcelona will have to play more aggressively in the next two matches. Otherwise, they will not be able to go to the next round. Everything you said about Barcelona is true and it is repeated for the second year in a row. Barcelona once again entered the Champions League with great expectations and, by all accounts, will be eliminated from the Champions League and continue competing in the Europa League, just like last year. In the last minute of the match, Inter missed a huge opportunity to score and eliminate Barcelona from the competition, but this will happen in the next round because Inter will not miss the opportunity to beat Victoria and secure passage to the knockout phase of the Champions League. Barcelona disappointed again. |
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I saw a documentary this week about the Qatar team and also about the country itself. The football team was of course prominent in this. It turns out that they are the current winners of the Asian continent. There you also have countries like Japan and South Korea, so maybe we underestimate Qatar. And of course those players have been working on this for a long time. From the moment it became known that the World Cup was assigned to Qatar, they could already start preparing. The group stage may well be a station they can get through. The Netherlands will be too strong in group A, but I think Senegal can be beaten. One more month and then we'll start. I hope that most players will be able to play injury-free by now. It might be a bit much to ask of many players in this way.
I agree that in every world cup the hosts have a slight advantage, but personally I think Qatar is probably the weakest host ever in a world cup in terms of team quality and I don't expect them to make it to the knockout stages of the world cup. The Netherlands is one of the favorites of this world championship, and Senegal, if I remember correctly, is the runner-up of Africa. Senegal also have a good chance of reaching the knockout stages of the World Cup and perhaps equaling their greatest World Cup success, the quarter-finals at the 2002 World Cup. |
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At the end of 2017, I made a mistake like many others, and at a time when many altcoins were skyrocketing, I decided to sell some of my bitcoins and invest in some promising altcoins. Needless to say, I lost almost everything on those altcoins. The value of my bitcoins fell too, of course, but bitcoins recovered over time while altcoins never recovered. Lesson learned.
After that experience, I mainly invest in bitcoins, and only rarely, if a project particularly intrigues me, in an altcoin.
It's really good to warn new and young investors about the high risk of altcoins and the relative stability of bitcoin over a long period of time.
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We have already talked about this many times, but it is not bad to repeat.
Not only crypto, but every investment, forex, stock market... are high-risk and before every investment you should analyze the market well, assess the risks, make an investment plan in accordance with your financial capabilities and have a clear exit strategy.
Beautiful websites with interesting figures and promises will always attract someone, but first you should always check all the facts and have a clear idea of what you are investing in.
At the same time, it is always good to diversify investments, not only in crypto projects but in various asset classes, in order to reduce investment risk.
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Kako onda postaneš vlasnik stana bez transakcije o tome da si kupio stan? Jer sve isplate tog tipa moraju ići s tekućeg na tekući. Mislio sam na to da kupis zemljiste pa onda na njemu gradis kucu. To mi je dugorocni cilj, da se maknem iz jebenog stana. Ali znam i neke koji su bas kupovali novogradnje tako da su dobar dio dali u kesu, a dio preko banke sto je opet dobro jer ipak ima nacina za izvuci lovu iz kripta i potrositi ju bez da se treses zbog porezne. Ja sam krajem prosle godine unajmio firmu da renovira kupaonu (BTC bio visoko pa dobra prilika za raditi takve stvari)- ceh je bio ~$6k a od toga sam cca $4.5k platio u kesu a ostatak preko racuna. Vole oni kes jako i vjerujem da se sa njima mogu dogovoriti dobri dealovi i za vece stvari. Da idem sada kupovati recimo stanove u Zagrebu preko neke agencije pa onda iznajmljivati (sto je plan ako/kad BTC ode na 100k+) vjerojatno ne bih izvodio nikakve vratolomije nego pregrizao govno i platio porez da sam miran. Ok, možeš kupiti zemljište i graditi kuću ali na kraju ipak moraš tu kuću prijaviti, upisati u gruntovnicu, dobiti zk izvadak... A i građevinsko zemljište je također skupo, i moraš sklopiti ugovor sa kupcem, bez obzira na plaćanje gotovinom, na ugovor idu tvoji podaci, OIB... Isto vrijedi i za kupovinu novogradnje kešom. Sve mora ići preko ugovora jer se plaća porez, u ugovor ide OIB, zatim slijedi solemnizacija kod javnog bilježnika, tabularna izjava na kraju... Nije bitan način plaćanja već promjena ili stjecanje novog vlasništva što je moguće samo preko ugovora, inače nemaš osnove da promjeniš podatke u gruntovnivci, na zk izvatku i iako si kupio nešto, nisi zapravo vlasnik dok se to zakonski ne provede. Tako da, dobro zamišljeno, ali opet ništa nev ide bez ugovora, tvog OIB-a i plaćanja poreza. |
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Rusija svaki dan dobiva nove sankcije od EU i Amerike a sada su došle na red i kripto transakcije https://crobitcoin.com/dapper-labs-suspendirao-ruske-racune-zbog-eu-sankcija/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news''Objavljen 6. listopada, najnoviji skup sankcija EU-a Rusiji predviđa potpunu zabranu pružanja novčanika, računa i skrbničkih usluga za kripto-imovinu, bez obzira na ukupnu vrijednost imovine.''''Sankcije Rusiji uključuju potpunu zabranu prekograničnih kripto plaćanja između Rusa i EU-a, što također rezultira zabranom “svih novčanika, računa ili skrbničkih usluga za kripto imovinu, bez obzira na iznos novčanika.”I tako će obični Rusi zbog rata u Ukrajini ostati i bez svojih kripto sredstava. OK, ovo će vjerojatno funkcionirati za sva službena kripto plaćanja preko portala koji su u EU i koji preko IP adresa mogu blokirati korisnike iz zabranjenih zemalja ali što s onima koji koriste VPN vezu? A ima i puno drugih, pametnih načina zaobilaženja ove zabrane pa me baš zanima kako će ovo funkcionirati u praksi. Koliko ovi birokrati u EU uopće razumiju kako kripto funkcionira? |
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177 tjedana, 3,5 godine za jednu kampanju je zaista jako dugo, i svaka čast i pokretačima kampanje a i manageru kampanje, Hhampuzu, što je sve tako dugo trajalo bez ikakvih problema.
I ne samo to, kako se kaže, nitko od sudionika kampanje nije ''završio na ulici'', Hhampuz se pobrinuo za sve i smjestio ih u svoju drugu kampanju.
To je zaista pravi manager, koji se brine za svoje ljude, a kada nešto ''zašteka'' sa isplatama čak plaća iz svog đepa.
Zato svi žele biti u kampanjama koje on vodi.
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Hoće ići tko od vas na ovo?
Meni se iskreno ne da baš, a zanima me čuti o čemu se točno pričalo.
To je radni dan, u koliko sati se uopće održava?
Na forumu zapravo nemamo nikog iz UBIK-a, jelda? To je zapravo isto mrvicu čudno.
Ja bih rado otišao ali je radni dan, i neću moći, na žalost. Nije napisano u koliko sati se održava, to ti vjerojatno jave nakon prijave emailom. Zapravo, imamo na forumu predsjednika UBIK-a To je Nikola Škoric aka Dzoni, ujedno i direktor Electrocoina. Na žalost, čini se da je u gužvi i da više nema vremena za ovaj forum. |
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U pripremi je vrlo zanimljiv meetup, sa top sudionocima i vrlo aktualnom i važnom temu za nas, a u organizaciji UBIK udruge (Udruga za blockchain i kriptovalute). Ovo je prilika da osobno dođete i podijelite svoja razmišljanja o ZSPNFT (Zakon o sprječavanju pranja novca i financiranja terorizma) u dijelu koji se odnosi na strožu regulaciju i kontrolu kripto transakcija. Da li je netko zainteresiran otići? Ovo je prava prilika da ono što mislite podijelite sa onima koji donose odluke i zakone. Najava regulatornog meetupa i panel rasprave!🚨
🗓Datum: 24.10.
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📋Agenda: MiCA, TFR i ZSPNFT - pregled kripto-regulative s panelom o sprječavanju pranja novca
🎤Predsjednik UBIK-a, Vlaho Hrdalo u ulozi moderatora panela uz paneliste: Paulino Lonza (Samostalni sektor za financijske istrage Porezne uprave), Boris Lalovac (Odbor za financije i državni proračun Hrvatskog sabora), predstavnici HANFA-e, predstavnici Ureda za sprječavanje pranja novca Ministarstva financija i odvjetnik Ivan Sumić. Tema panela je rasprava o aktualnom nacrtu izmjena i dopuna ZSPNFT i njegovom utjecaju na kripto industriju.
Pozivamo sve članove da nam se pridruže!
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