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1301  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zbirni topic za davanje merita za kvalitetne postove i za korisne informacije on: August 13, 2022, 12:59:54 PM
Da malo probudimo ovu temu, evo prijave o novom (vjerojatno scam) projektu s višestrukim red flags, od plagijata u whitepaperu do obećavajućih nerealnih APY prinosa i kamata na staking.

[WARNING] ATHOS META [ATM] Plagiarized Content, Multiple Red Flags


Sorry FatFork, malo sam se i ja ''uspavao'' a ne samo ova tema  Cheesy
Malo sam bio dolje na otoku i uzeo odmor od svega, uključujući i ovaj forum.
Evo, sada ti šaljem zasluženu nagradu za ovo najnovije otkriće scama, i nadam se da će to pomoći članovima na forumu.
Svaka čast na obavljenom istraživanju.
Da li ima još koga tko ima nešto korisno za prijaviti?
Vratio sam se, imam i nešto neiskorištenog merita, pa ako možda koga to zanima...  Grin
1302  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Kako besplatno dobiti (ili zaraditi) Bitcoin ? on: August 13, 2022, 12:55:28 PM
Neko ce reci to je sve sitino ali SATS po SATS nakupi se , jos je bolje kad radite ono sto uobicajeno radite […]


To mi je jedini nacin kako mi ovo (kao i ove sig kampanje) ima(-ju) smisla…

Naravno da najviše smisla ima kada te plaćaju za nešto što bi ionako radio, i kada nemaš prevelikog stresa i opterećenja oko toga.
Dovoljno već imam obveza u svakodnevnom životu da bi si ovdje nametao još neku dodatnu obvezu zbog par dolara tjedno.
Tu sam, kada imam vremena pogledam što ima novog na forumu, ako nađem nešto što me zanima uključim se u raspravu i to je to.
Ako netko to želi platiti i misli da od toga ima neke koristi, nemam ništa protiv  Grin
Evo, sad sam bio na moru desetak dana i jednostavno mi se nije dalo svaki dan visiti na mobu i gledati što ima novog, pa sam rekao Hhampuzu da sam na odmoru i da me nema desetak dana.
Rekao je da nema problema, da se lijepo odmorim i ne brinem oko mjesta u kampanji.
Da je bilo drugačije, opet ok, izašao bih iz kampanje i nakon povratka sa mora potražio nešto drugo.
1303  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: August 13, 2022, 12:48:17 PM
Jesi li sad tek skontao da je Nizozemska pored SAD i Svicarske WEF/NWO sockpuppet state..?

Muka mi je od ove globalističke cirkuske predstave i doslovno su stavili najgore idiote kao šefove država, mislim gledaj jadnog Bidena.
Siguran sam da će gotovo sve države 2023. ukinuti gotovinu i imati CDBC, a možda i sav crypto in Bitcoin dobije neki ban kao u Kini.


A čuj, izabrani političari nisu pali s neba, nego ih je netko izabrao  Grin
Kakvi su ti izabrani političari najviše govori o onima koji su ih birali.
Nekada su ljudi birali državnike da ih vode kroz teška vremena, ljude koji su im obećavali ''krv, znoj i suze'' i teška vremena.
Očito su ljudi tada zrelije razmišljali i bolje shvaćali životne prioritete a što danas imamo?
Hrpu populista koji pred izbore obećavaju sve i svašta iako već znaju da ništa od toga neće ostvariti.
Ljudi bi sve htjeli odmah i sad i nitko nema strpljenja da sluša o nekim dugoročnom strategijama razvoja zemlje...
A to da će sve države do 2023. ukinuti gotovinu i imati CDBC ipak mi se čini preoptimistično.
Po dosadašnjim raspravama u odborima evropskog parlamenta, očito je da je većina za prihvaćanje i legalizaciju kriptovaluta, ali uz strožu kontrolu i regulaciju.

1304  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: August 01, 2022, 11:51:27 AM
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France have a lot of star players in their squad, Mbappe and Karim Benzema are not left behind there is still Antonie Griezmann, almost all lines are filled by talented players.
It is not surprising that France is still the strongest candidate to win the Qatar World Cup. although in some matches France did not show its best game.
France's chances are predicted to exceed participants from all countries who will take part in the tournament later, only Brazil is a tight competitor from the statistics of the most favorite team reported by several sports media.

I think, France are well prepared to defeat many teams from this tournament to embrace the Qatar world cup in this season because all their potential players are willing to do their best to ensure they make their citizens happy again.  I believe, Karim Benzema and Mbappe will really handle their position very well, because they are among the best talented strikers in the world which they will definitely prove to the whole world that this title belong to France in this season. France coach has learned from their past mistakes never to bench the players that are good in first half.

France was not at the right level after the World Cup and they played very badly in the last European Championship and League of Nations.
No one disputes that the French team is one of the strongest in the world and the main favorite in Qatar, along with Brazil, but obviously they will have to solve some problems within the team in order to achieve good results again.
Pogba's withdrawal due to injury will be a handicap, but I believe that other players will be able to replace him.
Along with France and Brazil, I consider England, Spain and Argentina as the main favorites.
1305  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers on: August 01, 2022, 11:41:47 AM
By the way, it's very interesting why FIFA rate Belgium so highly, who never achieve high results in the World Cup or the European Championship, but always make them one of the favourites...
As for Messi, he's like Ronaldo, who also didn't have a World Cup winner's cup... You can write Portugal as champions by such criteria... Grin
The FIFA rankings are always suspicious because they use a complex formula to determine the rankings and that is why they produce such weird results, now do not get me wrong Belgium is a good team but they are not the second best national team around the world, as there are several teams I would put ahead of them without thinking about it and I am sure a great deal of the fans and experts will agree with me about it.

I think there is also a lot of manipulation from certain national teams who deliberately play against weaker teams in order to maintain a better ranking on the FIFA list and have a place among the holders when drawing groups for world and European competitions.
That's why we have situations where Belgium can be at the very top of the list, even though they don't deserve it in terms of quality.
I think FIFA should value the results in continental and world competitions much more and not take into account the results of friendlies.
1306  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2022/23 | Qualifying on: August 01, 2022, 11:31:20 AM
Sheriff (MDA) vs Plzeň (CZE)
Ludogorets (BUL) vs Dinamo Zagreb (CRO)
Monaco (FRA) vs PSV (NED)
St Gilloise (BEL) vs Rangers (SCO)
Benfica (POR) vs Midtjylland (DEN)

I have indicated in bold the clubs that I think will win tomorrow's games.
In the case of Monaco and PSV, I think there is a high probability that the game will be drawn.

What is your opinion?

Sheriff played very well in the Champions League last season, but now they are without a lot of players from last season and barely qualified for this round of the competition. They are obviously the weaker team now and I wouldn't say they are the favourites.
Dinamo also struggled a lot against the Macedonian team in the last round of the competition and they are obviously not fully ready yet. They have a lot of new players who haven't fit into the team yet. I also don't think they are favorites.
I am not that familiar with the current situation of other teams at the moment, so I will comment on other clubs after the first matches.
1307  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Pregled Bitcointalk Signature-Ad kampanja on: August 01, 2022, 11:09:17 AM
Pretpostavljam si u pravu da on vjerojatno sam kontaktira kockarnice i nudi svoje usluge managera, i pri tome obećava niže troškove vođenje kampanje, ali pitanje je koliko će on baš moći ispuniti njihova očekivanja.
Sigurno nije jedini koji tako radi. Možda nam Trofo može otkriti par sočnih detalja kako on i njegova grupa rade.

Odjednom otvoriš Services podforum i vidiš da su počele dvije nove signature kampanja a prethodno nije bilo upita od tih istih kockarnica kako organizovati signature kampanju ili neka tema gdje traže menadžera. Ili su kockarnice te koje su kontaktirale menadžere, ili su oni uspostavili vezu s njima na ovaj ili onaj način da bi se dogovorili.
Nema tu sočnih detalja barem šta se nas tiče. Mo smo od početka rekli da radimo samo s projektima u koje vjerujemo i da ćemo cijelu stvar bazirati na kvaliteti prije nego kvantiteti. To nam naravno zatvara vrata za većinu projekata ali ionako ne vidimo vođenje kampanje kao neki core business. Bolje jedan pravi projekt nego 5 gluposti po tjedan dana. Niti nemamo temu u service sekciji. Jedino ako nas neki top projekt sam kontaktira ili kao u slučaju livecasina ako znamo bar dio tima ima šanse za neku novu kampanju

Ja sam siguran da ti manageri kontaktiraju projekte, obećaju stvari koje nije moguće ispuniti i uzmu lovu za tjedan ili dva vođenja prije nego projekt skuži da nije dobio zapravo ništa.

Realno, s obzirom na veliki broj kampanja u zadnje vrijeme koji su jako brzo završili, očito je postojao veliki nerazmjer između očekivanja vlasnika projekata i obećanja managera.
Znamo da već jako dugo na ovom forumu vidimo pad broja aktivnih korisnika i zaista je upitno koliko su ovakve signature kampanje profitabilne i isplative tim kockarnicama (pogotovo u zadnje vrijeme).
Gotovo sam siguran da ove dugoročne kampanje ostaju tako dugo ovdje i zbog drugih razloga poput brandiranja usluge, a da im je trošak kampanja zanemariv u odnosu na ukupne prihode i novac koji imaju spreman za marketing.
Svatko ima svoje vlastite marketinške planove i strategiju kako doći do željenog rezultata i sigurno svatko dobro planira gdje i koliko uložiti za reklamu.
1308  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: August 01, 2022, 10:59:55 AM
Zapravo, najbolje je ono pravilo da nakon 2 godine ne plaćaš nikakav porez, ako prije toga nisi povlačio nikakva sredstva sa kripto burzi, i mislim da će si većina naših lokalnih trejdera upravo to i napraviti i tako vrlo jednostavno riješiti problem plaćanja odnosno neplaćanja kripto poreza.  Grin

A ništa ti to ne pomaže zapravo. Svi mi imamo rane ulaze u kripto ali kako da recimo trejder objasni poreznoj da je kupio 0.5 BTC a sad vadi van 2 BTC?

Opet se vraćamo na FIFO analizu gdje onda recimo ja imam trading transakcije na više CEX-ova, DEX-ova, NFT marketplaceova, Sportsbet kladionici, BTC poolovima, lending platformama, staking platformama..

Jednostavno je neizvedivo sve to moći popisati - i toga se sjetiti 3-4 godine unazad. Pa nemam pojma na kojim sam sve CEX-ovima trejdao.

Zato sam i rekao da je jedini dugoročni način da se to riješi, na obostrano zadovoljstvo svih, tako da koristi ima i država i mi, sastanak predstavnika lokalne kripto zajednice i ministarstva financija i porezne uprave, gdje bi im objasnili kripto problematiku i predložili zdravorazumska rješenja.
Jednostavno država odnosno porezna ne može preslikati pravila sa klasičnog trgovanja na kripto trgovanje i smatrati da je time sve riješila, i oprati ruke od svega.
Kripto trgovanje ima dosta stvari koje kod klasičnog trgovanja ne postoje a ako porezna i ministarstvo ne pokažu želju i interes da to razumiju i olakšaju plaćanje kripto poreza, onda će tisuće nedužnih ljudi potjerati u poreznu ilegalu a sebi smanjiti prihode od naplate ovog poreza, pa smo svi na gubitku.
1309  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Conference League Discussion Thread -- 2022/23 | Qualifying 5/07/22 on: July 31, 2022, 07:08:41 PM
~snip
Osijek got eliminated by Kyzylzhar (I almost broke my keyboard spelling name of this team Cheesy). Kyzylzhar spent most of game in defense, but it was enough for them to make few dangerous attacks in 2nd half to convert it into 2 goals. One of biggest surprises.


had to google them, to see who they are, and they are on position 12 in Kazakhstan league, where 13 and 14 position indicate relegation
and they kicked Osijek, that had some fine results in European cups in previous seasons, really big surprise

also Radnicki, that had lead at home against Gzira, and lost in the end, great results from Malta (as would be put in Serbian newspapers - everyone plays football today, isn't - that is always excuse when teams or national team lose to some teams from lower placed countries)

Isn't Gzira the club that kicked out Hajduk a few years ago? They always seem to play very well and get good results against clubs from the Ex Yu area  Cheesy
It is really a big surprise to see the very good results of clubs from Malta and Cyprus and the disastrous results of clubs from Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Montenegro etc.
Yes, everyone knows how to play football today, but obviously something else is happening here and the clubs from our area are no longer competitive in European competitions.
Obviously, big changes are happening on the football map of Europe right now.
1310  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers on: July 31, 2022, 07:01:10 PM
I do agree that big clubs played badly in nations league but that was only because they didn't care about that and it is only a glorified friendly and nothing more. Now? Now we are talking about that actually means something and that is why I agree that it is going to be something special.
I know for a fact that England would not play the same for example, because they wouldn't be changing the line up to see who is available, they will be actually putting all the best they could into this, and play the way they know, they barely lost the Euros just recently. So, I believe that we are in for a big ride, and that is going to definitely be awesome for all the viewers.
I'm not sure that teams will evaluate the World Cup as seriously as previous World Cups. Team competition in the middle of the season? Against the background of the fact that Infantino threatens to hold the World Cup every two years? It seems to me that the importance of this World Cup has already been compromised, of course it will be evaluated more seriously than the League of Nations due to historical reasons, but how much?

I have to disagree with you on this one. The World Cup is the most famous and prestigious tournament in the world for football. I believe all the players agree with that as well. A player should be able to concentrate on his national duties for the World Cup. For that, if he has to sacrifice his club performance, I think he should. There is no tournament bigger than the World Cup, in my opinion. I also believe that the players should treat the World Cup like that. And I really don’t care how any team plays in the UEFA Nations League. Because no one actually cares about the UEFA Nations League.

I agree with you. We currently have many different  football competitions in the world, from the League of Nations to the Olympic football tournament, but the World Cup is still the most important football competition in international football and will remain so.
The League of Nations is only interesting to small football nations, such as Bosnia, Kosovo, Macedonia, as an additional chance to appear in the European Championship, and that's all.
For the best football nations, the League of Nations is just a good preparation for the European or World Championships.
Of course, UEFA is making good money from the new competition from TV and mmarketing rights, let's not forget that  Grin
1311  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: July 31, 2022, 06:51:02 PM
If we check deep facts about all teams and their possible players then surely I am feeling France is moth lethal team in this world cup with have full ability to defend their title because they have too many quality players for all departments and these players are already doing good job in their clubs, and we can call them cream of Europe because of their strong play and quality.

With this comparison there is no competition with Argentina which is mostly depending on Messi and others are also good but have no enough quality like France and this is going to be the biggest difference between these teams here Brazil is also having few good players but comparison they are also not good enough like European teams which are currently good and having better quality for winning.

I agree that France is very strong, but this does not guarantee anything especially at the playoff stage. If you recall the last European Championship, then France was just as strong there as it is now, but in the end they were eliminated at the 1/8 final stage, and it was knocked out by not the strongest Swiss team.
In fact, I would be happy to see in the champions some team that has not yet won this title, but the pool of "traditional" contenders is too strong.

France also played very poorly in the last competition before the World Cup, the League of Nations.
However, it really doesn't mean anything because France has enough time to prepare well for the World Cup and show its quality.
Speaking of the European Championship, it is interesting that the European champion from the last European Championship, Italy, will not participate in the World Championship again.
As for a new national team that could become the world champion for the first time, my Croatia was very close to that at the last world championship in 2018 in Russia. Maybe this world championship will bring us a similar surprise.
1312  Other / Meta / Re: [CHARTS] Brief monthly overview of the local boards activity on: July 31, 2022, 06:42:45 PM
@_Ragnarok is the best only because our local champion from Croatia is currently without a campaign and on extended vacation  Grin
Unfortunately, the activity on the forum continues to decrease every month, and considering the upcoming summer and vacation season, it is not realistic to expect better news soon.
What is interesting to see is that we have less and less activity on the forum, but more and more merits  Cheesy
Rikafip, thank you once again for the new interesting analysis of our forum.
1313  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Mjesečna Analiza za Hrvatsku Lokalnu Zajednicu (Bitcointalk Croatian) on: July 31, 2022, 06:10:18 PM
Hvala Rikafip na još jednoj zanimljivoj analizi našeg lokala
Lijepo je vidjeti da smo u lipnju bili bolji nego u svibnju ali mislim da nas u srpnju očekuje novi pad.
Prvi je razlog što je naš lokalni šampion ponovno bez kampanje i motiva da piše, a drugi da će se vjerojatno i ovaj mali broj aktivnih članova na našem lokalu dodatno smanjiti zbog ljeta i godišnjih odmora.
Ja već unaprijed najavljujem da odustajem od ponovne borbe za vrh našeg lokala jer planiram otići na otok i uživati u moru i suncu, pa ne očekujte veliki doprinos od mene.  Cheesy
Trofo, ovo ti je životna šansa da postaneš lokalni šampion, slackovic bez kampanje a ja na moru. Sad ili nikad  Grin
1314  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: July 31, 2022, 05:59:28 PM
Mora ostati u svom izvornom obliku. Ako si kupio bitcoin pa ga zamjeniš u ether, napravio si transakciju koja se treba oporezovati ako si njome ostvario profit. Nisam siguran da li coine smiješ prebacivati sa adrese na adresu ili odgovarajuće institucije smatraju da je prošlo godinu dana samo ako je bitcoin u tom periodu mirovao na istoj adresi.

Mislim da ne bi trebalo biti problema ako možeš dokazati da si ih ti kupio tad i tad na burzi gdje si uradio KYC a zatim si te iste coine prebacio opet na KYC verifikovani nalog na burzi i zamjenio ih za fiat.

Tako je. Ali jedna opaska... Ako si kupio BTC i onda zamijenio za ETH napravio si transakciju koja se mora oporezovati ali tek nakon što prodaš ETH za fiat. Kripto-kripto transakcije se kod nas ne oporezuju i to je ono gdje smo u prednosti nad nekim drugim zemljama (npr. mislim da se u SAD-u oporezuju i kripto-kripto transakcije).

Što se tiče mirovanja u istom walletu, moglo bi imati smisla da se kripto ne smije pomicati. Jer ako napraviš transakciju, kako dokazati da je i onaj prvi wallet bio tvoj? Na taj način bi ljudi mogli BTC kupiti "na crno" i onda kod prodaje reći da je i wallet gdje je BTC bio prije bio njihov. Znam da se može dokazati potpisivanjem ali ajde neka netko to objasni ljudima na šalterima u Poreznoj.

Da, veliki je problem što u poreznoj ne razumiju kako funkcionira kripto, i nisu baš fleksibilni.
Recimo, kripto- kripro transakcije se po zadnjem tumačenju porezne ne smatraju poreznim događajem i ne moramo takve transakcije prijavljivati poreznoj i plaćati porez ali ako slučajno za držanje neke reklame ili neki drugi besplatni način dobijemo i najbeznačajniji kripto iznos na kripto novčanik, u roku 8 dana moramo to prijaviti i platiti porez.
Nema veze što ta kripto sredstva za pola godine mogu propasti i ne vrijediti ništa, a ti si već unaprijed morao platiti porez u kunama, naravno u čvrstoj valuti  Grin
Kada bi barem predstavnici lokalne kripto zajednice mogli sjesti za isti stol sa predstavnicima ministarstva financija i porezne uprave, objasniti što sve muči našu kripto zajednicu, i dati neke praktične prijedloge koje bi s jedne strane olakšale i pojednostavile plaćanje kripto poreza ( s naglaskom na FIFO) a s druge strane državi donijele veće prihode od naplate kripto poreza.
Wishful thinking  Grin
1315  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Pregled Bitcointalk Signature-Ad kampanja on: July 31, 2022, 05:48:28 PM
Ne znam odakle se odjednom pojavio taj novi menadžer i kako preuzima nove kampanje od drugih menadžera.
Možda im daje bolje ponude i ima dobre veze na forumu...
Mislim da dobre veze na forumu ne bi puno pomogle. Vjerovatno kontaktira kockarnice i nudi im svoje usluge. Pretpostavljam da traži manje novca za vođenje kampanja od drugih a koliko vidim i isplate nisu nešto posebno. Ako sam dobro zapamtio, u jednoj od tih njegovih kampanja Legendary članovi mogu zaraditi maksimalno $50 tjedno. To je OK ali ima i onih koji plačaju $70, $100, $200, itd.

A čuj, znaš kako se kaže, svaka roba nađe svog kupca  Grin
Niša najbolje plaćenih kampanja već je zauzeta sa nekoliko top managera, a ovaj novi manager je očito pronašao svoju nišu kod slabije plaćenih kampanja.
Očito ima problema sa popunjavanjem svojih kampanja, vidim da jako dugo traži kvalitetne članove za svoje kampanje, a teško će ih i naći s obzirom na uvjete koje nudi.
Pretpostavljam si u pravu da on vjerojatno sam kontaktira kockarnice i nudi svoje usluge managera, i pri tome obećava niže troškove vođenje kampanje, ali pitanje je koliko će on baš moći ispuniti njihova očekivanja.

1316  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: All newbies are welcome to this forum on: July 30, 2022, 05:00:56 PM
Haven't you had a similar topic in this forum section recently?  Cheesy
This forum was the first online place to discuss Bitcoin, 13 years ago, started by Satoshi, the creator of Bitcoin.
However, a lot of time has passed and today there are many other legitimate places on the Internet to discuss crypto and this forum is no longer an exclusive place for crypto discussions.

After all, today's young people use other ways of online communication much more, such as Telegram groups, social networks etc.
_ today there are many other legitimate places on the Internet to discuss crypto and this forum is no longer an exclusive place for crypto discussions.
As for me I only know bitcointalk, so if I may ask, can you please provide those legit sites for confirmation?
OP you are welcome to the forum. Learning is a rigorous process as far as you follow up the forum rules then you are good to go. There is time for everything. All newbies plus me are also welcome.

I actually follow some local Telegram and FB groups in the Croatian language, so that wouldn't help you much.
As for crypto forums, I only follow this forum because it is still the most relevant place for crypto information and discussions.
What I really wanted to say is that the younger generations no longer follow Internet forums and prefer different crypto groups on social networks and Telegram, and for a long time there has been a decline in activity on this forum. I think that this trend will continue because this way of communication is clearly not interesting and attractive enough for younger generations.

Then what are you trying to say? You confused yourself. Look at the statements you made that I bolded it. You said, there are legitimate sites to discuss bitcoin and other crypto currencies and Mate2237 asked you to provide those site and you are saying that they are from your local telegram and facebook group. Are you for real?  You would have made it clear from your first post. Because other users are also waiting to see the sites you would have provided. Please If you are to educate newbies, give them the legit information so they can grow up with it and pass to generation. When you say other legitimate sites, that means, other forums or platforms that look like bitcointalk not telegram or facebook groups for specific purpose.

I think the only one confused here is actually you.
I never said that there are other crypto forums that I would recommend to new members, but other places on the internet with legitimate information. It is a general statement in response to the previously stated claim.
This is generally known information anyway, but it is better to be recommended by people who use other sites on a daily basis.
It makes no sense to claim that this forum is the only legitimate place on the Internet to learn about crypto.
In fact, mk4 already mentioned other legit crypto sites in English and I have nothing else to add. I don't see the need for overreactions.
I never make recommendations lightly, without careful thought and fact-checking.
1317  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: All newbies are welcome to this forum on: July 30, 2022, 03:05:38 PM
_ today there are many other legitimate places on the Internet to discuss crypto and this forum is no longer an exclusive place for crypto discussions.
As for me I only know bitcointalk, so if I may ask, can you please provide those legit sites for confirmation?
OP you are welcome to the forum. Learning is a rigorous process as far as you follow up the forum rules then you are good to go. There is time for everything. All newbies plus me are also welcome.

I actually follow some local Telegram and FB groups in the Croatian language, so that wouldn't help you much.
As for crypto forums, I only follow this forum because it is still the most relevant place for crypto information and discussions.
What I really wanted to say is that the younger generations no longer follow Internet forums and prefer different crypto groups on social networks and Telegram, and for a long time there has been a decline in activity on this forum. I think that this trend will continue because this way of communication is clearly not interesting and attractive enough for younger generations.
1318  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 30, 2022, 02:59:05 PM
Transfer rumours:

Real Madrid have enquired about the availability of Chelsea's Albania striker Armando Broja, 20, who impressed on loan at Southampton last season. Very interesting news. Is Real already preparing for the era after Benzema?
Chelsea's Germany forward Timo Werner, 26, has accepted a 50% pay cut to rejoin RB Leipzig - and a loan fee with a purchase clause is being discussed. This is also a bit of surprising news to me as it looked like he was either going to stay at Chelsea or move to another big club this summer, I think some big Spanish clubs were mentioned?
Barcelona's Memphis Depay, 28, is among Juventus' options for a new attacking option along with Werner and Atletico Madrid's Spain striker Alvaro Morata, 29, but there have been no direct talks between Tottenham and the Netherlands forward. Juve have done a very good job with transfers this summer and are clearly preparing to return to the top of Italian football.
Manchester City have denied they are willing to sell Portugal midfielder Bernardo Silva, 27, to Barcelona after reports his departure could fund a deal for Lyon's Brazil midfielder Lucas Paqueta. Does this mean that Silva is staying in Manchester or is it just a negotiating tactic?  Cheesy
Barcelona president Joan Laporta says there is a "strong possibility" Manchester United target Frenkie de Jong will stay at the club and he will "do my best" to keep the Netherlands midfielder. So, in the end, Jong succeeded in his plan to stay in Barcelona?

Source:  https://www.bbc.com/sport/62351122
1319  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Conference League Discussion Thread -- 2022/23 | Qualifying 5/07/22 on: July 30, 2022, 02:46:46 PM
I wouldn't say that there is many unexpected results happened. Yeah, few favorites got eliminated, but such things happens every season. What a day for Malta, all their 3 clubs reached next round. Hibernians kicked out Levadia, Gzira eliminated Serbian Radnicki after penalties and Hamrun won against Velez Mostar from Bosnia.
Sligor Rovers kicked out Motherwell quite unexpected. It again proves that level of Scottish football besides Celtic and Rangers is shit.
Osijek got eliminated by Kyzylzhar (I almost broke my keyboard spelling name of this team Cheesy). Kyzylzhar spent most of game in defense, but it was enough for them to make few dangerous attacks in 2nd half to convert it into 2 goals. One of biggest surprises.
One of fastest goals I saw recently - for Viborg it was enough 17 seconds to score goal and basically earn spot in next round: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpjdJ4L74Wo

It's a real surprise for me too that clubs from Malta and Cyprus are so good in European club competitions.
On the other hand, the clubs from the area of the former Yugoslavia, which used to be very good in European club competitions, and even won several competitions, had a disastrous night on Thursday and almost all the clubs from this area were eliminated, 11 or 12 clubs.
It is especially incredible how the clubs you mentioned, Radnicki and Osijek, were eliminated from this competition.
I watched Osijek's game in this competition and they really played a very bad game and were eliminated by an objectively much weaker team.
It is obvious that the clubs from Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia, Macedonia and Montenegro are increasingly lagging financially and organizationally behind Europe, and this can be seen in the results of the clubs from those leagues in European competitions, with the exception of Zvezda, Partizan and Dinamo.
1320  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Conference League 2022/23 Season on: July 30, 2022, 02:37:13 PM
What is interesting to me, when I look at all the results of the second qualifying round of this competition, are the surprisingly good results of the clubs from Malta and Cyprus and the disastrous results of the clubs from the countries of the former Yugoslavia.
On Thursday, almost all the clubs from this area, which played, 11 or 12 clubs, were eliminated from the European competitions.
In the past, clubs from the area of the former Yugoslavia won European competitions a few times and always played at least in the semi-finals or quarter-finals, but today they cannot beat rivals from countries like Malta and Cyprus, which tells me that their clubs and domestic leagues are less and less competitive in Europe, with the exception of Zvezda , Partizan and Dinamo.
As for the competition itself, I am glad that UEFA started it. Even before 2000 we had 3 different club competitions in Europe and that turned out to be a very good decision.
In this way, a chance is given to small clubs and countries to achieve some European success and earn some money.
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