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721  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: January 07, 2023, 07:10:31 PM
People who move to the United States illegally as refugees do it because they are seeking for a better life, keeping that in mind, I agree with you.
Most of the Mexican and South Americans that will go the USA because the World Cup will be people with money without need to move out desperation, most of them will go back to their respective countries after the football party.

The border is crossed irregularly everyday and most people won't wait for World Cup to do so.

Well. My question is this:

Why enforce all this useless restrictions and backlog for getting a US visa, when millions of illegal immigrants can easily cross the border?

Anyone who want to attend the world cup need to go through this frustrating process and there is no guarantee that they will get a visa. Either enforce the restrictions to both the groups (legal and illegal migrants), or remove the restrictions. Under the current system, those who go through the legal route are being punished and those who do it illegally are being rewarded.

I don't see what FIFA and the World Cup have to do with illegal immigration to America?
FIFA and the host country of the World Cup agree on the procedure for buying tickets and the arrival of fans, and this has nothing to do with illegal immigration, but with the organization of the World Cup in football.
For the host country of the World Cup in football and FIFA, the most important thing is that everything goes smoothly and that there are no security problems at the matches and around the stadium.
It all comes down to profit in the end, as always  Grin
722  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: January 07, 2023, 06:47:33 PM
Budite oprezni ako imate USDT tether, čitam da se mnogi fondovi i institucionalni investitori uveliko klade protiv tethera i imaju short pozicije!
Možda oni znaju nešto mi ne znamo, ali lako se može desiti da bude neka frka sa USDT ili da se izgubi peg (1:1) u odnosu na dolar u ovoj 2023 godini.
Svi stable coini sada mogu biti jako rizični, a ako Tether pukne možemo očekivati da Bitcoin ide još nizbrdo.
https://beincrypto.com/the-big-short-institutional-investors-are-betting-against-tether-usdt/
Problem je što ako Tether pukne ništa nije nije sigurno. Di da sklonimo lovu? BTC ide dole sigurno u tom slučaju a altovi idu još niže. Šta još uopće vrijedi od stable coina? Možda USDC, budući da u BUSD vjerujem još manje. Binance ipak ima hrpu para u BNB i isto se može naći u problemu.

Mislim da bi pad Tethera tek bio udarac od koga se kripto stvarno dugo ne bi oporavio. Možda je u tom slučaju najbolje izaći u fiat s većinom i pustiti dio u BTC baš na duge staze.

Da li si ikada razmišljao da uložiš lovu u nešto drugo osim kripta?
OK, znam da smo već svi puno profititirali na kriptu (koji smo duže u ovoj priči), a mora se priznati da su povrati na ulaganja zaista bili sjajni, recimo čak i običnim držanjem btc se moglo zaraditi od 10x do 100x i više ali čini se da je to vrijeme prošlo.
Sada je jako teško pogoditi projekt koji može donijeti velike povrate a postoje rizici (Tether) koji ako se dogode mogli bi vidjeti još veće i dugoročnije padove naših kripto investicija.
Ja sam svoju lekciju naučio nakon velikog pada 2018 i nakon toga sam postepeno diversificirao svoja ulaganja na različite klase imovine, od nekretnine, start upa do dionica.
Za sada mi se ulaganje u start up prošle godine najviše isplatilo jer sam prodao dio btc kada je bio na vrhuncu vrijednosti, i uložio u start up kada su prodavali inicijalne udjele sa popustom za male ulagače, a sada već ti udjeli vrijede gotovo 300 % više dok je btc sada jedva na četvrtini vrijednosti.

Mislim da je kod nas na forumu problem što je kripto jedino ulaganje koje je relativno jednostavno i svi znamo kako to ide. Kod drugih ulaganja ipak ne možeš napraviti sve sam s računala. Ili sam u krivu? Recimo to ulaganje u start up... Kako si došao do toga? Pretpostavljam da ti je netko od poznanika rekao za to pa si proučio i uložio. Ljudi oko kojih se ja krećem nemaju takvih informacija pa i da hoću, ne znam kako i gdje bi počeo.

Zapravo sam nekada davno preko jedne brokerske kuće kupovao dionice pa sam ostao na njihovoj mailing listi.
Oni su već prije, vrlo uspješno, surađivali sa vlasnikom tog start upa, pa im je ponudio da postanu partneri u njegovom novom start up projektu.
Nakon vrlo detaljne dubinske analize projekta, ovi brokeri su ga odlučili preporučiti svim svojim poslovnim kontaktima.
Pozvani smo na zoom prezentaciju projekta, i kada sam vidio sve detalje projekta i dugoročne perspektive i analize tržišta, odlučio sam kupiti udjel i ući u projekt.
Naravno, kod svakog projekta uvijek postoji određeni poslovni rizik ali zapravo radi se o vrlo poznatom hrvatskom manageru, koji stoji iza ovog start upa, a iza sebe ima jako puno uspješnih projekata, a radi se o projektu sa područja energetike, koji nudi konkretnu uslugu koju će mnogi trebati i koristiti, a za poslovni uspjeh dovoljno im je da pokriju oko 25 % hrvatskog tržišta, što je sasvim realno.
Zapravo me je taj manager ''kupio'' kada je rekao da se ovakvi projekti obično nude samo institucionalnim ulagačima i investicijskim fondovima, domaćim i stranim ali on je odlučio prije te glavne faze ulaganja krenuti sa tzv. nultim krugom ulaganja sa relativno malim iznosima koje će ponuditi isključivo malim ulagačima, fizičkim osobama i tako im omogućiti da postanu dio ovog start up projekta i da zarade neki ozbiljni novac, uz očekivani povrat investicije 20x kada, plan je do 2027, dođe do strateškog preuzimanja ili IPO i izlaska na burzu.
Također je svima daon svoj osobni broj mobitela i ponudio da sa svima osobno razgovara.
Gledam to kao dugoročno ulaganje sa realnim i očekivanim velikim povratom na uloženo.

Osobno mi nije bilo ništa komplicirano oko ovog ulaganja.
Vidio sam email, pogledao zoom prezentaciju, iskoristio priliku da zakažem i obavim osobni razgovor sa vlasnikom start up preko mobitela, donio odluku, prodao dio btc, kupio udjel, ovjerio sve papire kod javnog bilježnika i to je bilo to, sve riješeno u tjedan dana.

Jednostavno sam nakon kripto potopa 2018. želio imati još neke druge opcije ulaganja i zarađivanja, ne ovisiti isključivo o kripto ulaganju (imati sva jaja u istoj košari) i vjerujem da sam donio dobru ulagačku odluku.
Za sada projekt ide jako dobro, i širi se, uskoro i na zemlje regije  Grin
Nadam se najboljemu  Grin

723  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: January 07, 2023, 05:58:54 PM
In my opinion, Chelsea made a huge mistake sacking Thomas Tuchel at the beginning of the season. It is true that the team was struggling at the moment and needed some changes to the situation. Thomas Tuchel should have been given more time after all he has proven to be worthy winning the league abd the champions league, he deserved to be given that benefit of doubt that he could still turn things around.
The Chelsea side were too hasty about a change of coach and the result is they are now falling deeper into the regular league. I'm not attacking Potter, but I think Graham Potter is the worst coach replacement at the moment, we know he doesn't even have any experience other than coaching Brighton and several other small teams, while Thomas Tuchel has already given Chelsea the UCL title and several trophies at big clubs others he has coached. I'm not sure Chelsea can qualify for this top 16 phase, considering that they always appear with poor performances.
It's not right to make hasty decisions about Potter.  He may not have much experience, but I think he played successful matches in the teams he managed.  I think he can do better after getting to know the team and in an adaptation period for Chelsea.
It's true that everything needs adaptation and process for every new coach, but when it comes to a big name club like Chelsea, of course, many of their fans don't accept that their favorite club experiences a decline in performance every week. In the regular league competition they are in the middle of the standings and in the UCL competition they have to fight Dortmund in the last 16, Graham potter's homework this season has been very tough.

Graham Potter actually took over Chelsea in a bad place.  It was a bit of his bad luck.  Dortmund is an opponent they can knock out.  Their situation in the league is not encouraging.  However, let's not forget that they were not in a very good position in the league the year they won the champions league, with a little luck, they can show success in the champions league again.

Honestly, I think it was a very good decision by the Chelsea manager to fire Tuchel and bring in a new coach, Potter.
Do you remember how Chelsea started the new season and how they played in the opening games of the Champions League?
I watched them in the first game against Dinamo in Zagreb and they really played very badly and lost, against the weakest team in their Champions League group.
They played without any organization and a clear game plan and after the first 2 rounds they were in last place in their Champions League group.
Their season was saved by the arrival of new coach Potter because after that Chelsea finally played at a much higher level and won all the remaining Champions League games and won first place in the group.
If Potter hadn't become a coach, we wouldn't be watching Chelsea in the Champions League, but in the European League, and that's a fact.
I believe they have a good chance against Dortmund because the Germans also have a lot of problems this season.




724  Other / Meta / Re: What one change would you like to see in bitcointalk in 2023 on: January 07, 2023, 05:45:50 PM
One rank above the Legendary is my wish!

I believe it will be a good thing to do for the members who contributed a lot to the forum and also it will encourage the legendary to post more to reach that super recognition rank.

Is it really necessary, mate?

I think it is not needed since we are able to know the members who contributed a lot from their merit numbers. Also, the members who have a certain achievement, have a special badge.

For example:

- taufik123 has a special badge as the winner of the art contest in 2019.
- fillippone has a special badge as the winner of Pizza day in 2022.



Why not? For example LoyceV earned more than 10K merits but he still holds the legendary rank as everyone who has 1K merits but this is a big difference in the numbers and how much they contributed to the forum.

Ofcourse we can get it from their merit counts but if there is another rank with 2500 merits or 5000 merits criteria which will give the recognition for their contribution and also differentiate from 1K members, anyway I don't think theymos is interested in adding ranks but I just expressed what I would like to see.

I personally like your idea and support it.
If enough members support it, maybe it will become a reality, why not?
There are legendary members who became legendary before the implementation of the merit system, based solely on their activity and the fact that they have been members on the forum for a long time.
On the other hand, there are members like LoyceV, who are really quality members who help everyone, and deserve a special rank that will highlight their great contribution to this forum and separate them from other legendary members, whose contribution to the forum community is not so big.
725  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I want to know what is the use of rewards, and since when rewards are given to m on: January 07, 2023, 05:33:39 PM
There is one thing that needs further clarification, in my opinion.
Before the implementation of the merit system on this forum, members progressed on the forum solely on the basis of their activity, i.e. writing posts.
Of course, this does not mean that each of the senior members with legendary rank is necessarily a crypto expert, but only that he has been on this forum long enough to have earned a higher forum rank based on his forum activity.
I have personally seen new members on this forum who were greater crypto experts than the older, legendary members. I am especially thinking of some crypto company owners (that I know) who have no interest and time to be active on this forum, but have great knowledge and experience.
726  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: SCAM upozorenja Zbirni topic on: January 07, 2023, 05:25:00 PM
Mnogi dućani nemaju dovoljno kovanica eura pa vraćaju i dalje kune, ne rade ni sve kartice, a da li zaista misliš da trgovci imaju vremena provjeravati detaljno svaku novčanicu?
Ako imaju aparate za otkrivanje ne znači da automatski moraju provjeriti svaku novčanicu nego samo ako im je sumnjivo. Sjećam se kad sam prije cca 15 godina bio na ljetovanju u Grčkoj pa sam se iznenadio kad su mi redovno u dućanima provjeravali novčanice sa tim aparatima, pogotovo one od 50 eura tek izašle iz bankomata. Valjda su im automatski bile sumnjive te koje su bile ganc nove.


Stvarno sumnjam da je netko od radnika na naplatnim kućicama išao riskirati posao dajući pogrešne kovanice. Prije bi rekao da ih je njemu netko uvalio, a on nije ni primijetio nego ih je samo spremio u kasu pod eure.
Pa naravno da (najvjerojatnije) nije radnik išao riskirati zatvor i otkaz na poslu da bi zaradio neku siću sa varanjem na kovanicama nego mu ih je neki specijalac podvalio pa ih je onda on ne znajući proslijedio dalje.

Uglavnom, peglas karticu i boli te briga, dok se situacija malo ne smiri


Dok trgovci dobiju upozorenje da su određene novčanice ili kovanice sumnjive, već može biti kasno.
Prevaranti su obično vrlo dobro organizirani i znaju načine kako naći pravu priliku, kada su velike gužve zbog proslava, praznika, sajmova... da podijele veliki broj lažnjaka a dok se to otkrije i u javnosti objavi upozorenje, oni su se obično riješili velike količine lažnog novca.
Naravno, neke novčanice, zbog iznosa, je uvijek isplativije krivotvoriti, veći iznosi poput 50, 100, 200 eura i više i njih će trgovci uvijek pažljivije provjeravati, jer nije isto ako dobiješ lažnjaka od 10 ili 20 eura ili od 200 ili 500 eura.
727  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Pregled Bitcointalk Signature-Ad kampanja on: January 07, 2023, 05:19:42 PM
Evo jedna ekskluziva za vas ljudi, i mi ćemo ponuditi jednu review/test kampanju za par dana i da stvar buda još bolja imati ćemo rezervirano nekoliko mjesta za članove hrvatskog lokala. Volio bi preuzeti zasluge za tu ideju ali to će te morati zahvaliti našem poslodavcu Smiley Svi detalji krajem vikenda a kampanja službeno starta od ponedeljka.

Počeo sam ko pravi influencer, još malo pa ću pisati najave za najavu  Grin

Sad se ti javljaš nakon što sam ušao u dugogodišnju kampanju koja je toliko jaka da ju nisam uspio uništiti... Tongue Ako test bude uspješan, hoćete li uzimati još članova ili samo one koji će sudjelovati u testnom periodu? Jer ne bi baš prelazio u drugu kampanju nakon što sam konačno upao u jednu dobru.
Ne, ne krivo si me shvatio. Ovo će biti review kampanja, nema veze sa signature ili avatar. Test sam ubacio jer će biti određene stvari koje treba isprobati. Uglavnom one time review je najtočniji opis. Kao sta sam rekao detalji za koji dan.


Ok super, čekamo onda vijesti  Grin
Izgleda da su na services stranici postali popularni raznorazni review i paid testers offeri.
Jel to sada neki novi trend?  Cheesy
A vidim da je postalo popularno i iznajmljivanje svog avatara.
Ovaj post mi je baš bio zanimljiv, joker_josue je objavio onu ponudu od Royse777 (na njegovu molbu), u kojoj traži ugledne i poštovane članove foruma za nošenje avatara, jer trenutno ima temp ban. Dakle, ako vas zanima njegova ponuda, nemojte mu slati poruke preko foruma  Grin

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728  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: January 07, 2023, 05:08:17 PM
Budite oprezni ako imate USDT tether, čitam da se mnogi fondovi i institucionalni investitori uveliko klade protiv tethera i imaju short pozicije!
Možda oni znaju nešto mi ne znamo, ali lako se može desiti da bude neka frka sa USDT ili da se izgubi peg (1:1) u odnosu na dolar u ovoj 2023 godini.
Svi stable coini sada mogu biti jako rizični, a ako Tether pukne možemo očekivati da Bitcoin ide još nizbrdo.
https://beincrypto.com/the-big-short-institutional-investors-are-betting-against-tether-usdt/
Problem je što ako Tether pukne ništa nije nije sigurno. Di da sklonimo lovu? BTC ide dole sigurno u tom slučaju a altovi idu još niže. Šta još uopće vrijedi od stable coina? Možda USDC, budući da u BUSD vjerujem još manje. Binance ipak ima hrpu para u BNB i isto se može naći u problemu.

Mislim da bi pad Tethera tek bio udarac od koga se kripto stvarno dugo ne bi oporavio. Možda je u tom slučaju najbolje izaći u fiat s većinom i pustiti dio u BTC baš na duge staze.

Da li si ikada razmišljao da uložiš lovu u nešto drugo osim kripta?
OK, znam da smo već svi puno profititirali na kriptu (koji smo duže u ovoj priči), a mora se priznati da su povrati na ulaganja zaista bili sjajni, recimo čak i običnim držanjem btc se moglo zaraditi od 10x do 100x i više ali čini se da je to vrijeme prošlo.
Sada je jako teško pogoditi projekt koji može donijeti velike povrate a postoje rizici (Tether) koji ako se dogode mogli bi vidjeti još veće i dugoročnije padove naših kripto investicija.
Ja sam svoju lekciju naučio nakon velikog pada 2018 i nakon toga sam postepeno diversificirao svoja ulaganja na različite klase imovine, od nekretnine, start upa do dionica.
Za sada mi se ulaganje u start up prošle godine najviše isplatilo jer sam prodao dio btc kada je bio na vrhuncu vrijednosti, i uložio u start up kada su prodavali inicijalne udjele sa popustom za male ulagače, a sada već ti udjeli vrijede gotovo 300 % više dok je btc sada jedva na četvrtini vrijednosti.

729  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: January 05, 2023, 10:05:55 AM
I see everyone is anxious to 2026 haha, maybe in a few days this thread will get to 2nd or 3rd page but soon the Qualifies will start  Smiley

This time the qualifying tournament is going to be much more exciting, especially with the AFC, CAF and OFC confederations. The reason is that for the 2026 world cup there will be more slots from these regions. For example, for Asia there will be 8.33 slots in 2026 instead of 4.5 in 2022. And this means that some of the good teams that previously failed to qualify for the main tournament, such as Uzbekistan and United Arab Emirates have good chances to do so this time. The same can be said about the CAF and OFC qualifiers as well.

The more teams the better in terms of global football advertising but I ask about the quality of the teams that will be added because of the more slots,most likely if they were as of good quality as they claim they should have qualified in the 2022 cup and had no trouble to do so.Apparently though FIFA knows that they are not as good as they claim and such FIFA added the number of teams participating in the 2026 cup in order to be more inclusive and to make more people and countries happy.I agree with FIFA but I do not expect any good performance from the new teams that will perform in the 2026 cup.

New teams only mean quantity, but unfortunately not quality.
It all boils down to politics and making money, which is what FIFA is best at, and all of that has nothing to do with football.
FIFA should have given more places to Europe and less to Asia, Africa and North America, but apparently the top of FIFA is preparing for new elections and counting on the votes of delegates from those continents.
So, in the next World Cup in 2026, we will have more national teams and more matches, which will increase FIFA's earnings, but the quality of the competition will decrease because we will see more boring matches between weaker teams.
730  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: January 05, 2023, 09:58:42 AM
The coach of Newcastle United Eddie Howie have come out to speak regarding the clause in Cristiano Ronaldo's contract that will allow him go to Newcastle if they qualify for the champions League next season, According to Him he said he doesn't have an idea about that and that Ronaldo is a great player and he wishes him the best, but there is no such clause in Ronaldo's contract, he said this in the pre-match interview in the Arsenal Vs Newcastle game yesterday. Newcastle United are really doing great this season, loosing only to Liverpool at field, in there last 13 games they have won 8 frame 5 and are currently third on the log same point with Manchester United who have a game in hand.

I think this is just a rumor and not some serious news.
Ronaldo has not played at a high level for a long time, and now he has practically retired from serious football by going to Saudi Arabia.
It is safe to say that he is now enjoying a very well-paid football retirement  Grin
The owners and management of Newcastle have shown that they run the club very well and that they carefully select new players and don't spend too much money on transfers.
Their results in the first season of the English league are already excellent and they are very close to qualifying for the Champions League.
They already have a very good and competitive team for the Champions League and they really don't need Ronaldo.

731  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: SCAM upozorenja Zbirni topic on: January 05, 2023, 09:45:21 AM
Ma nisam baš u tolikom strahu da bi kupovao uređaj za provjeru Smiley Osim toga, baš me zanima kako bi me gledali u Konzumu kad bi svaku novčanicu išao provjeravati s uređajem i tako stvorio dodatnu gužvu i nervozu Grin
To bi trebali ovi u Konzumu imati uredjaj za provjeru novcanica na svakoj blagajni a ne da ti hodas okolo sa uredjajem.  Cheesy

Inace, ne podvaljuju se samo novcanice nego prolaze i kovanice. Naime, jucer sam naisao na slucaj gdje je neki lik na naplatnoj kucici Lucko umjesto kovanice od 2 eura dobio nekakvu azerbejdjansku kovanicu koja vrijedi ~90% manje, a relativno je slicna euru. To je naravno skuzio tek kad je dosao kuci da tako treba malo pripaziti bez obzira od koga se prima kusur, ali zamisli kakav lik moras biti da ides uvaljivati lazne kovanice.



Navodno su i kovanice od 1 ili 2 centa vrlo slične kovanici od jedne turske lire ili tajlandskom bahtu pa opreza nikada dosta  Grin
Pravi raj za lov u mutnom  Grin

A ako si bio u dućanima ovih dana onda znaš da je opći kaos i da se mnogi, posebno stariji ljudi, jako teško snalaze u svemu tome.
Mnogi dućani nemaju dovoljno kovanica eura pa vraćaju i dalje kune, ne rade ni sve kartice, a da li zaista misliš da trgovci imaju vremena provjeravati detaljno svaku novčanicu?
I ovako imaju gužvu na blagajni svaki dan a mnogi kupci ih koriste kao mjenjačnicu pa kupe recimo čokoladu za 1 euro a daju 1 000 kn ili donesu punu vreću kovanica, i tako žele promijeniti novac bez plaćanja provizije.

U Poštama navodno primaju za razmjenu samo do 30 kovanica a u Fini do 100.
Uglavnom, ovo što gledam zadnjih dana je opći kaos i komedija, iako nas na TV uvjeravaju da sve štima i sve je super.
A naravno mnogi trgovci i kumice na placu su krenuli kreativno zaokruživati cijene pa ono što je prije bilo 10 kn sada je 2 eura a što je bilo 5 kn sada je 1 euro i slično.

Savjet svima, dok ne prođe ova gužva, plaćajte sve karticom da vam netko ne uvali neku lažnu kovanicu ili novčanicu u ovom kaosu.


732  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: January 05, 2023, 09:33:32 AM
~snip

Ne znam zašto ne naprave mogućnost jeftinije kupnje sezonskih ulaznica za fanove koji su vlasnici određenog broja tokena. OK, to možda nema smisla za reprezentaciju ali klubovi bi mogli napraviti tako nešto. Jer nema vjernijeg navijača od onog koji je vlasnik sezonske ulaznice.

dobra je to ideja, ali to bi bas umanjilo profit klubovima na zapadu, koji imaju npr. 80% stadiona pod sezonskim ulaznicama
stoga oni (bar Everton i Valensija, koji imaju tokene), nosiocima tokena nude VIP ulaznice, odnosno mesta koja nisu uvek popunjena, a inace se koriste u marketinske svrhe, pa bude izvlacenje medju vlasnicima tokena za ta mesta s vremena na vreme (ne bas svaka utakmica), i eventualno slikanje sa nekim igracem/igracima

ono sto tu ne valja je sto se time favorizuju lokalni vlasnici (jer je malo verovatno da potegnes iz druge drzave/kontinenta samo zato sto si dobio VIP kartu, mada ima i toga)

ne znam koliko Dinamo ima sezonskih karata?

Ne znam ni ja koliko ih ima. Znam da ima ponešto sezonskih pretplatnika, ali ne vjerujem da ih je puno. Ja sam jedinu sezonsku kartu imao kad je Medveščak igrao u austrijskoj ligi pa je bila tolika navala na karte da se sve rasprodalo u roku nekoliko minuta. Onda sam uzeo sezonsku kartu da ne moram stalno strepiti hoću li uspjeti kupiti kartu ili ne.

Vjerojatno si u pravu što se tiče popusta na sezonske ulaznice. Time bi si zapravo smanjili zaradu, a ne bi baš profitirali od prodaje tokena kad ih se može kupiti na nekoj burzi. Osobno slikanje, večera ili nešto slično s igračima me nikad ne bi privuklo da kupim token. Zapravo i dalje mislim da navijački tokeni nemaju nikakvog smisla osim ako se od kluba napravi DAO. Možda ne da fanovi imaju apsolutnu kontrolu ali da imaju određeni postotak u glasovanju. recimo ako uprava kluba ima 4 člana, da peti član bude zajednica vlasnika tokena i kako oni odluče, tako će glasovati peti član. Na taj način ne bi izravno mogli provoditi svoje odluke, ali bi ipak imali nekakav utjecaj.

Zanimljiva ideja oko glasovanja i upravljačkih prava ali mislim da to ne bi prošlo kod nas jer nije po Zakonu.
Dinamo je čak registriran kao udruga građana, ok barem formalno, što znači da se mora poštovati Zakon o udrugama gdje se predstavnici uprave biraju na Skupštini kluba, prijavljuju Uredu za udruge i nakon verifikacije da je sve po Zakonu postaju članovi uprave i ovlaštene osobe kluba.
Vlasnici tokena kao neko kolektivno tijelo ne mogu sudjelovati u upravljanju klubom na bilo koji način.
Čini mi se da će se beneficije za vlasnike navijačkih tokena ostati simbolične, možda popusti na neke ulaznice, VIP sjedala, potpisani dresovi...
Klubu ili reprezentaciji od toga će možda ostati neka manja zarada (ako uopće uspiju prodati sve tokene), i to je sve.
Ako će nekome to biti zanimljivo (ti simbolični benefiti) kupit će tokene ali ne mislim da će to baš zaživjeti među običnim navijačima.
733  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: January 03, 2023, 01:47:15 PM
With Liverpool's performance getting worse and worse in the EPL and now their mentality will get worse when they meet Real Madrid in the last 16 of the UCL. It is not impossible for Liverpool to rise in the match later, but their opponent is Real Madrid with 14 UCL titles, of course they (Liverpool) will try hard if they want to beat Real Madrid. Since this game is taking place over 2 legs this game looks like it will be an unexpected surprise.
Real madrid is far better in almost all of things. Liverpool can't even enter into the top 4 of its domestic league and how can liverpool beat madrid in february? i really doubt if liverpool has a chance to beat madrid. liverpool is starting to show worst performance again and again. People shall understand why real madrid will be winning the match easily against liverpool. Liverpool is underperformance unlike madrid which was slowly going up again.

Ok, Liverpool is not playing well in the English championship this year, but that will not mean much in the match against Real.
This match with Real is for the Liverpool players the most important match of the season and I am sure that they will play at the highest level, and that we will see uncertain matches.
It is very wrong to underestimate the Liverpool team because of several weaker matches in the English league.
The Champions League is a completely different competition and every team gives their maximum there and Liverpool is a very high quality and dangerous team, with great players like Salah, Van Dijk, Alisson, Arnold, Nunez, Gakpo and others and can beat any team in the world.
Don't forget that Liverpool beat Manchester City in the FA Community Shield 3:1 a few months ago so they should not be underestimated.
734  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Qatar world cup Final Predictions on: January 03, 2023, 01:37:17 PM
It was a memorable final, one we will not soon forget. And Messi can now rightly be called the best player of all time after winning the title. He was also very important for Argentina.
I agree with you, I am personally happy for Messi, he did put his best in in their finals match against France, though i cant ignore Mbappe's efforts, that guy is damn so good that at some point in the game, i began to wish and hope that France would win the World cup again, but knowing that this could possibly be Messi's last world cup, i knew he deserved to win it, and i am glad that he later did together with his team .

The 2022 world cup finals was suspense filled, it was one of the hottest football match I've ever watched.
I think this is just the proper time for Argentina to win the World cup, France tried their possible best with all their best performance but couldn't win the world cup. Messi deserve to be a world cup champion and he ended up having it towards the era of the end of his career.
I think the world cup was really meany for Messi which is from Argentina because there were so many favor that was given to Messi including red card but was still ignored. The world cup was one of the most interesting world cup I have ever watch that the final was really interesting with other countries team that made it a remarkable one. It was true that Ronaldo that would have make it to the final couldn't reach it.
You are right - Messi was given so much advantage at one point my brother said - they will make Argentina win the world cup - - on the other hand my favourite Ronaldo has now officially joined AL Nasser - and his followed increased drastically - Saudis have given him an immense protocol and he is the most loved and admired celebrity.


The story of Messi's last chance to become world champion was so intense and so well received by the public that it was to be expected that the Argentine national team would have a mild support from the FIFA structures to go all the way in the competition and become world champions.
I don't know if any national team has had so many penalties awarded in their favor in the history of the World Cup.
Nevertheless, regardless of everything, it cannot be said that the Argentine national team did not deserve to become the world champion.
Messi was the best player at the World Cup, and they played really well in defense.
However, without Messi they will not be favorites for the new world champion title in 4 years.
735  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: January 03, 2023, 01:20:26 PM
Ne znam kako ali nekako mi je promakla ova vijest od prije 2 tjedna, da je Hrvatska nogometna reprezentacija izdala svoj ''Vatreni kripto'' token.  
Dakle, važno je biti u trendu  Grin
Da li ga je netko već kupio?
Ti fan tokeni su bili super kad je bio World Cup Qatar, posebno za one koji su dobijali utakmice, ali nisam siguran koliko bi sada bili spekulativni.
Vidim da ima nekih pogodnosti i popusta sa ulaznicama, za dresove, za nft  i za gluposti kao metaverse.
Nemam account na Gate exchange a na CoinGecko mi pokazuje da ga samo oni imaju trenutno:
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/croatian-ff-fan-token

Po meni je totalna glupost kupovati navijački token zato jer očekuješ da će određena ekipa pobijediti. Zašto se onda jednostavno ne kladiti i zaraditi na tome? Ovako kupiš token i nadaš se da će doći veća budala od tebe koja će kupiti token samo zato jer je ekipa pobijedila. Stvarno mi sve to nema smisla...

Zar nije zapravo osnovna ideja iza kupovanja navijačkih tokena bila malo drugačija?
S takvim tokenima su navijači trebali dobiti neke dodatne benefite poput mogućnosti glasanja o mjestu odigravanja utakmica momčadi, izbora dresova, pa VIP ulaznice, praćenje treninga reprezentacije, dobivanja potpisanih dresova...
Čini se da to za sada baš ne funkcionira kod ovih tokrena za hrvatsku reprezentaciju ali ne znam da li je kod nekih drugih klubova to možda ipak profunkcioniralo?
Za takve benefite bi realno mnogi kupci navijačkih tokena čak bili spremni i na gubitak vrijednosti tokena, s obzirom na tzv. added value.
Ima li netko konkretnih iskustava sa nekim drugim navijačkim tokenima?
736  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Pregled Bitcointalk Signature-Ad kampanja on: January 03, 2023, 01:15:27 PM
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737  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 01, 2023, 01:36:38 PM
Sunday's transfer gossip:

Jude Bellingham's father wants the England and Borussia Dortmund midfielder to join Liverpool, with Real Madrid and Manchester City also seeking the 19-year-old's signature. Will Bellingham listen to his father or will he end up agreeing with Real or Manchester City?  Grin
Chelsea are "one step away" from signing Benfica's 21-year-old Argentina midfielder Enzo Fernandez. Chelsea seem close to another good deal.
Portugal forward Joao Felix, 23 - a Manchester United target - is open to leaving Atletico Madrid in January. Has an agreement been reached between the clubs or are some surprises still possible?
MLS side Sporting Kansas City tried to sign Cristiano Ronaldo before the 37-year-old joined Saudi Arabian club Al Nassr.
It seems that in the end only unknown clubs from other continents fought for Ronaldo. What about the strongest European clubs? Why didn't anyone want him? We all know that Ronaldo wanted to play in the Champions League again.
Morocco goalkeeper Yassine Bounou, 31, could leave Sevilla for Manchester United or Bayern Munich in January.  It seems that we have just found the answer to the question of who could replace the injured Neuer  Cheesy

Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/64136780
738  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Qatar world cup Final Predictions on: January 01, 2023, 12:37:51 PM
For this year my favorite team was able to advance to the final and win the World Champion, of course it is a very special thing for football lovers and also the idols of the players, since the group stage there have been many countries that have surprised me, especially Asian countries, and those who advanced to the final everything was beyond our predictions, I had predicted that the one who would advance to the final this year would be Brazil vs Argentina, but the opposite happened and the greatest messi could be the player who can get all the trophies in the entire football arena.
This world cup told the world that apart from European countries, African Asian countries can also come forward in the football world as they have shown alot of improvement in last year's. Morocco if continue to play like this can win the world cup next year.

In fact, the Asian and African national teams were good at the world cups even before this world cup in Qatar, but sometimes they were not lucky.
At the 2010 World Cup in South Africa, Ghana had a penalty in the last minute of the match against Uruguay and a huge opportunity to win and reach the semi-finals, but they failed.
At the 2002 World Cup, South Korea played in the semi-finals against Germany and lost.
Morocco is a good team, but I wouldn't say they are favorites for the world title in 4 years.
The favorites will continue to be the European and South American national teams, and I think that some African national teams are at the level of Morocco, such as Senegal or Egypt.
739  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: January 01, 2023, 12:30:03 PM
The Argentina team will have to prepare the team without Messi and Di Maria for the next World Cup. Because the chances of both of them playing in the next World Cup are very low.
It's true that Messi and Di Maria are of course too old to participate in the 2026 world cup and that is an opportunity for other young Argentinian players to fill those positions soon. Maybe at this time with the existing Argentina squad it is still possible to continue moving forward, but the role of Messi and Di Maria as creative figures in the Argentinian attack line will be a serious problem if there are no replacements. Maybe in a year or two, new Argentinian young players will appear, coupled with the current squad they will try to defend the world cup title.

I think it is obvious that the Argentinian national team is facing a generational change because it is not realistic that their main players, Di Maria and Messi, will play in the next World Cup in 4 years.
Will new young players be able to replace Messi? I think that is impossible and that Argentina will have to change the style and concept of the game and play more as a team.
After the departure of Pele, Brazil had to wait 24 years for a new world champion title.
Argentina had something special and unique with Messi. Without Messi, they are just another team out of many.
740  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: January 01, 2023, 12:23:57 PM
~snip~
The big three don't play together anymore.
Federer has already retired and Nadal is struggling with numerous injuries, while Djokovic was banned from several GS because of his stance on vaccinations.
This is the very beginning of the year and it is very difficult to say how ready the players will be, but I personally believe that Djokovic will be especially motivated at the GS in Australia because of everything that happened to him last year.
When he is so motivated, Djokovic is the most dangerous and I believe he will be the early favorite at his favorite GS in Australia.
This GS and this year are probably the last chance for Djokovic to overtake Nadal in the number of GS titles, because younger players are getting better and more dangerous every year, and tennis giants Nadal and Djokovic will soon retire.

Yeah, I think Roger Federer has to be one of the greatest of all time, he was so skilled but also very diligent. He was great in many ways.

There are many players that are either very skilled but skip training, or some players that are not that talented but just train a lot, Federer had both.

In my opinion I think only Pete Sampras comes close to Federer.

It seems to me that you are talking about things that can't be expressed in numbers, about the skill of a tennis player, the beauty of his game...
According to this criterion, Federer is also for me the greatest tennis player of all time, and behind him are Borg and Lendl.
However, people always want to choose the best tennis player of all time based on specific numbers and results, and the most accepted criterion is the number of GS tournaments won.
Based on that criteria, it is obvious that there is a great battle between Nadal and Djokovic for the GOAT title based on the most GS wins.
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