I continue to read reports about the virus and other health issues, and a few things confuse me. Reports indicate that the Corona virus has little effect on a healthy person without a compromised immune system, and there is no risk of mortality. The vaccine Developers plan to test their new vaccines on young healthy volunteers. This confuses me, as the immune system of these volunteers will be on top of the virus as soon as it sees it, and it will be difficult to determine the effects of the vaccine. Another problem stems from the fact that 80% of the population has probably developed a natural immunity. Again this means that the vaccine will be redundant and possibly disruptive. Will they filter out those with immunity, or will they be included in the trials?

A lot of Americans are free thinking individuals, and you shouldn't condemn them for refusing to accept the diktats of those who are blinkered by the gluteus max of the Pharma executives.

Whether viruses exist or not is only of academic interest to me. I know there is some disease that has been discovered, and there is a possibility that it was created in a military lab,but the important considerations are the effects on health and the economy. It seems there has not been a single death worldwide - I believe this because nobody has claimed the award for proving it. It doesn't seem to affect the bulk of the population, and this isfrom my personal observation. It is obviously going away, because the money Pharmas are desperate to get a vaccine onto the market before nobody needs it. This acceleration of vaccine development is quite alarming, as it seems it takes 4 years to check on the safety of a vaccine, and they are doing it in 4 months. Billions of pounds,dollars and euros are being taken out of a weak economy to starve it of funds for recovery.

Virus laboratories are reporting problems because they cn't find enough infected cases for treatment testing, and yet reports claim that infections are increasing. Well it seems they are increasing testing using inferior kits, so of course more cases will be found. Asses to that, they are reporting people with virus kike symptoms as infected.

The whole thing smacks of massive manipulation of the gullible public, and they are really stretching credibility. They are now using dogs to detect virus infections in America,what will be next?

The whole topic of ventilators is quite interesting. I gather most of the ventilators in use are pretty useless, and the staff don't know how to use them. The successful ones are extremely expensive, and monitor the patient constantly, and make frequent micro adjustments. Operating them is a skilled and time consuming job, and this is why there aren't many of them. It's a last resort treatment as well. All of the ventilators that governments have been buying for the panicdemic are low grade, and are more likely to cause death rather than curing the patient.

But what do I know - I'm one of those nuts who believes that it is better to eat stinging nettles, dandelions and thistle roots to avoid illness, and that injecting disease into one's arm is stupidity.

The virus is the red herring that is being used to start the collapse of the world economies. It is already being used to transfer massive amounts of cash, and these are used to purchase assets by elite survivors. There is a far worse threat, and that is the decimation of farming, and the promotion of synthetic ultra-processed foods. People seem to be accepting this passively,and they go online to buy whatever foods the supermarkets are promoting, and they seem to have no interest in the health benefits.

I'd love to run a smallholding in a woodland preservation area, and sell healthy produce for crypto. Maybe I should crowd fund it.

Wow that is impressive, and it compares with the 80% of the population who are estimated to have been cured through natural immunity.


(maybe some of those were in the 500 )

They have grabbed Piraeus in Greece as well, and they are moving towards dominance in commercial shipping, including the ownership of ship builders.

Well this morning was interesting. I arrived at Asda early (6 am ), and used the mobile to check on Bitcoin,and a few other things, including Bitcoin Talk. I didn't bother to reply to any threads, as they contain so many useless poster quotes and re-quotes that it is quite hard to read the threads on a mobile, and even harder to try to understand the replies. Why do people have to keep quoting posts in full to make a minor reply to one of the points? You wouldn't do it if you were in a group conversation would you? Can you imagine it? Fred said "blah blah" and George replied "do dah dah", then Susan qualified George with the comment "dah dah do". After you had said all that lot, you then say " I agree with Susan". I bet the next time you joined the group, they would all walk away from you.  Forums are really group discussions, so the same concepts apply. Anyway enough of that, and on to the main point of this post.

I had gone to Asda because my elderly friend wanted some cat food ( behave, it was for the cat ).By the time I had got to the cafe, it had been open for an hour or so. I moved towards one of the wall tables with bench seats, and was told I had to get a number. OK, so I went back and picked up a flag with number 19 ( my old house number in Walton-on-Thames ), and headed for the wall tables. There are 5 tables, and two of them are closed because of social distancing. A family was occupying one, one had just been vacated, and one was clear with a number flag on it. I was told I couldn't sit at that table, so I sat at one of the less comfortable central tables to wait for the central one to be cleared. Another staff member observed that I had to order my coffee at the till, and I said that I was waiting for one of the wall tables.I was then told that as I had sat down at the smaller table, I had to stay there, as customers aren't allow ro move. When I asked why I couldn't use the empty table, I was told that it was in its quarantine period. It seems that after a table has been cleared and sanitised, it can't be used for 10 minutes. At this point I got up and went to Morrison's yet again.

Now lets put this in perspective. Fewer than half of the customers in the main store were wearing face masks, and I didn't see any wearing gloves. A higher percentage of the staff were wearing masks or visors, and some were wearing gloves. Nobody seems to bother about the law of the land.  Customers block the entrance as they utilise the hand sanitised stations. This is after they have come from home, and got out of their cars, and one would presume they were virus free, The sanitiser stations at the exit are largely unused,as people seem to want to hang onto the viruses they have picked up in the lethally infected store. The use of face masks must be reducing, as there weren't as many as usual blowing around in the car park.

How many people are aware that a Californian doctor has offered $7,500 to anyone who can prove that any person has died from the virus. You would think that the money Pharmers would have been all over that, but so far nobody has claimed the award.

The only good news is that it is highlighting the Pharma scams, and the massive amounts of money that are being squandered. Even if they can find a vaccine that is half way decent, then I doubt if they will dare to release it. It will be largely untested, and the deaths and deformities that will result from its use will probably kill the credibility of vaccines.

You haven't explained why you believe that reinfecting yourself with expelled virus is good for your health

I'm just tired of repeating sources

Observation and rational thought are more use than lying propaganda

I go to a lot of public places and meet a lot of people. I've yet to hear of anybody who has bad confirmation of infection, Other than in the media.

I must be a super spreader of immunity.

If god wanted us to wear masks he wouldn't have invented mucus

Google is your friend just search for them

I want it to spread fast so that we can all  get immunity

I think I care more about the population than the monkey face mask wearers. I care that cancer and heart disease patients can't get treatment because the MFMs are prolonging their recovery process. I can about all of the people who are dying because of the stupid lockdown, and the destruction of their employment. I care about the money that is being sent to the evil merchants of death, and isn't being spent on the national infrastructure. I care about the kids who aren't getting a proper education. I care that people are being  forced to buy ultra-processed foods to further reduce their immunity strength.

Do you want me to go on?

More and more people are starting to realise that it is the vaccines that create weak immune systems.

During their entire history, vaccines have only been successful in eliminating smallpox and rinderpest, and those were in the early days. In all other cases people would have been better off relying on natural immunity. There have been so many deaths and creations of cripples, that the US government had to pass a law to block damages claims against the merchants of death.

I have real problems understanding why people think that re-breathing the disease and toxins that your body expels through your breath is some sort of health benefit.

I've also yet to find any reports that detail any deaths that come solely from the virus.

It looks as if they have got themselves into some legal hassles that will destroy the company.

Will they take their customers' money to try to stay afloat?

All what deaths?

Why won't they tell us how many people have actually died solely fron the bankers'virus.

I'm not doing very well with this project, and I might give up and go back to running Ubuntu.
I'm having a go with MX Linux, and this may be the last variant that I will try. It's making me gritty, and I keep posting about Covid while downloading and installing these options..

I'll use my smartphone for the android app.

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I've decided I'm bored with the Corona virus chat. It is not a very important virus in itself, but so many people are jumping onto the money Pharmers train, that it becomes difficult to discuss it. There aren't any real stats, and this thread was intended to be a dig at those supporting and handling the misinformation.

Like all minor annoyances, it's rime we ignored it and got on with our lives.