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1621  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The UK is moving towards forced isolation for people over 70. on: March 17, 2020, 07:40:31 AM
The virus can't survive at temperatures above 27 degrees, and that is why the human body raises its core temperature. The immune system has evolved over millions of years, and the more we learn about it, the more wonderful it appears. We should learn to work with it, and to boost it, nit try to destroy it, or replace it. Unfortunately, drinking hot water with a slice of lemon in it doesn't make anybody rich, so the pharma companies have to try to move people away from that idea, and persuade them to become addicted to poisons like statins.

I've been looking at the papers this morning. Several of them show pictures of volunteers buting food and delivering it to people who are self isolating, or deemed to be vulnerable. Some are wearing masks, and some seem to be fairly close to the person opening the door, when they could leave the items on the doorstep. Not one of them was wearing gloves, and this would be the best protection in my opinion. In fact I bought some shopping for an elderly friend who is self isolating yesterday, and I've realised that I don't wear gloves. I've got a box of disposable nitrile gloves that are used by mechanics to guard against excessive exposure to oil. I'm thinking of wearing those to cut down the possibility of my transporting the virus. I'm aware that my frequent visits to public restaurants may expose me to virus contact. I've always washed my hands as a matter of basic hygiene. but I don't think this is sufficient to destroy the virus. I suspect water temperature may be more significant than soap in this case. Real information is fairly difficult to find. For example, there are many reports about the survival rate of the virus on cardboard, but almost no sites report that it can only live for a fifth of the time on copper.

I don't understand the R0 rating either. This seems to be the infection rate of the virus, but the most important factor in my opinion will be the number of people exposed to the infection, and this don't seem to be included in the calculation. For example, I am upstairs in a Costa coffee shop, and there id no other person here, and nobody has been here since I arrived. Whatever the rating of any infection that I might have, I'm not going to pass it on to anybody. Had I been caught up in a mad bun fight to purchase loo rolls, then even a virus with a low infection rate id likely to infect several people if I was a carrier.

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I found this article - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2703958
It looks as if it would be a good idea to wear the gloves to avoid the transfer of the virus.
1622  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The UK is moving towards forced isolation for people over 70. on: March 16, 2020, 07:29:28 PM
What really annoys me is this selection by age. In fact this is illegal in the UK, as you can't discriminate based on age these days - that;s the law. You only have to spend some time in McDonalds to see all the poor kids who have been crippled by vaccinations, pharmaceuticals that the mothers have taken, and dietary problems. They are the vulnerable ones, not the people over 60 who have managed to keep out of the clutches of the Pharmaceutical sales force ( known euphemistically as the health service)

Anyway this seems to have turned out well, as I took some shopping up to my friend on the hill. I found some Baxters vegetarian soups on offer, and those are her favourites, so she asked me to  get a box ( six of each variety). It's a good job I'm not young, as I had to carry them to the van. Smiley During a subsequent discussion, we decided that I would dig over a plot on her land, and we would create a prepper's vegetable garden for both of us. That's great news as long as I can keep the animals off the veg. She loves her wild animals, and the woodland is largely untouched, so there is a wide variety of families living there. I might have to ask you guys for some help and advice about this.
1623  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Bottled water claims. on: March 16, 2020, 12:49:39 PM
I bought some black water that had been reduced in a supermarket. For some reason, people don't seem to like black water, which is surprising given that the government tells us how beneficial fracking is. The water tasted like ---> water, so I don't know what had turned it black. Normal price was stupidly expensive though.
1624  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The UK is moving towards forced isolation for people over 70. on: March 16, 2020, 12:37:03 PM
It isn't bravery, it's common sense. One of the things that helps one protect oneself against the virus is sunlight, so why would I want to keep myself out of that? The health service and government advice is rubbish at the moment. For example they are advising people to stock up on fever reducing medicine, and that is not what they should be doing - they should be increasing body temperature to fight the virus. The only reason to reduce body temperature is to try to avoid getting snatched and kept in rooms full of diseased people.

I hope the "news"papers are misreporting the facts again. They seem to be saying that a healthy 70 year old can be fined upto £1,000 for refusing to be quarantined. I thought we were supposed to be the victims not the threat. How can it be sensible to take a healthy person, and force them to live in a room full of diseased people. It would be far more sensible, and cheaper, to throw away all the disease generating vaccines, and teach people how to strengthen their immune systems.
1625  Other / Politics & Society / The UK is moving towards forced isolation for people over 70. on: March 16, 2020, 10:08:30 AM
I gather that parliament is likely to pass an act in the near future, and this will attempt to force people over 70 to lock themselves in their homes. Well I'm 78, and they can shove that act up their fundament. It's over 50 years since I had any illness other than a one day cold, and I reckon that I have a lower risk for the CV than the fat lumps that need a walking stick to get from their cars to the surgery.

The only reason that they are targeting older people is that they have screwed up their health with statins, vaccinations and other poisons. Hopefully we can get some sensible statistical analysis about so called health care soon, and then we can move forward and benefit from the wealth of knowledge we have learnt about the workings of the body and its immune system. It has kept us going for a few milliion years, so it must have worked out the benefits.
1626  Other / Off-topic / Re: Strengthen our immune system. on: March 15, 2020, 05:31:36 PM
A one degree increase in your core body temperature doubles the strength of your immune system. Start the day with hot lemon water before breakfast.
1627  Other / Politics & Society / The European Union project seems to have ended. on: March 15, 2020, 05:27:40 PM
We don't seem to hear about EU negotiations any more. It all seems to focus on individual countries, and they all seem to be doing their own thing, and closing their borders. Germany seems to be trying to become an independent trading nation, and others seem to have similar ambitions. They can't even agree on the deals they want with Britain once we are out, and all the EU can talk about is reinstating political control, and that isn't going to happen.
1628  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Dealing with a country in lockdown on: March 15, 2020, 04:26:46 PM
Well they have already started stealing. I'm in KFC, and they no longer put sugar, condiments,hand wipes or serviettes in the customer area. People were just filling their pockets with them. Somebody was caught in the Marks and Spencer loo trying to rip the sanitiser cream dispenser off the wall . It won't be long before we read of housebreakers stealing packs of loo rolls from peoples homes.

McDonalds has added an 8 stage hand washing instruction page over the basins in the loos. It includes illustrations in case customers don't know the parts of their hands like fingers and thumbs.
1629  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Will all the world hold China responsible for corona-v on: March 15, 2020, 04:04:26 PM

Did we blame the British for Creutzfeldt-Jakob (mad cow)?


Come on - British beef was some of the safest in the world at that time. Any hint of infection in a herd, and the whole herd was burnt. European countries were burying the infected cows, or, worse still, slaughtering them and adding them into the food chain. British food quality and standards dropped when we came under the control of the EU, and it is going to be a struggle to regain those standards once we have got rid of its insanity and vested interests of the EU federalists.
1630  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Will all the world hold China responsible for corona-v on: March 15, 2020, 03:48:15 PM

Corona-v has been traced to a wet market in WuHan.


But not to the food there.

The idea that the virus is actually an untested rogue vaccine seems to be gaining credence. Now we need to find out which of the Pharma companies created it, and dumped it on the unsuspecting public in China. Was it deliberate? Who knows?
1631  Other / Off-topic / Re: I'm done with Coronavirus, let's hack this shit! on: March 15, 2020, 11:10:39 AM

Let farmers grow the animal in natural way.

No chance! That snowflake Greta Thunderbird thinks we should stop cows farting, and travel in carbon fibre vehicles.

I agree that we should have more ruminants ruminating, and not being fed on animal derived protein. It's no wonder the poor animals suffer from flatulence.
1632  Other / Serious discussion / Re: How can we profit from the current global economic reset? on: March 15, 2020, 08:39:28 AM
McDonalds seems to be quite busy in the mornings with delivery services collecting breakfasts. UberEats charges £3.50 for a delivery, but I think I would prefer to cook the food myself. However, I suspect that many of the breakfast deliveries are made to building sites, or local factories. The one I am in at the moment is on the edge of a large industrial area.
1633  Other / Off-topic / Re: Drunk teenaged idiots on: March 15, 2020, 08:32:27 AM
I've always preferred to have relationships with intelligent girls, and not just use them as ornaments. Comments like that just show the guys inadequacy. We have the additional problem of teenage drug abuse in Britain, and the littering of parking areas with the discarded paraphernalia.
1634  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Toilet paper hoarding on: March 15, 2020, 08:22:39 AM
I had quite a long chat with the security guard at a major English supermarket, and he made an interesting comment. He had been talking to a customer who had bought two large trolleys full of loo rolls ( he bought the rolls not the trolleys of course Smiley ). The customer explained that he would take the lot to a market and sell them there for a profit. There are always some people who want to exploit a crisis for financial gain.

The supermarket didn't seem to mind, as it is always fully stocked with loo rolls when it opens at 8am, and sold out when it closes at 10pm.
1635  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Media causing panic-buying and costing lives on: March 15, 2020, 07:27:55 AM
I wouldn't believe much that I trad in the Guardian, they don't seem to research the propaganda that it pushes.

I suspect the problem is in the distribution network, and not in the availability of products. Tesco tinned tomatoes are probably cheap imports that bypass the routes that are being throttled by some government agencies. That is typical distorted reporting that seems common in the Guardian pages.
1636  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus! on: March 14, 2020, 06:30:53 PM
Jetty's supermarket report.

I've been talking to the security guard at a Morrisons supermarket, and he says that he makes anyone wearing a mask remove it. He has had some problems with the Chinese though.

He asked one customer why he was buying two trolley loads of toilet rolls, and the reply was " I'll take them to the market and sell them out of my van"

There is an old boy ( not me ) who walks round the supermarket checking to see what is likely to be reduced Then he comes back later and tracks the staff as they make final reductions. Then he tries to get the self scan tills to skip some of the items.

The largest amount that he has stopped someone trying to steal if a trolley was 985 pounds. That was a mix of meat, drink and household items.
1637  Other / Off-topic / Re: If you are 1 of the 500,000 who live thru Coronavirus... on: March 14, 2020, 12:19:46 PM
If the virus only kills 1-5% then this is a bit academic. Also there won't be and health care systems, so people will be more healthy from natural immunity.
1638  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoiners' Novel Approach to Find Cure for COVID-19: Biohacking on: March 14, 2020, 11:47:03 AM
They won't find a vaccine. You need to test it for at least a year, and to check on its interaction with other poisons that Big Pharma produces. In a year's time, the virus will have changed, and the vaccine will be useless. In fact there is a growing body of opinion that believes that the virus started with an inadequately tested rogue vaccine. That seems to fit most of the known facts surrounding the virus.

In the meantime, one of the most effective cures seems to be drinking hot water. For every one degree that you raise the core body temperature, you double the effect of the immune system. Of course they won't be publicising this, as you can sell hot water in pill form. Smiley

As a side note - the virus lives for a maximum of 3 hours on copper surfaces, but can live for up to 2 days on cardboard and stainless steel.
1639  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Dealing with a country in lockdown on: March 14, 2020, 11:23:15 AM
The whole situation is really strange at the moment. I think I posted in another thread about eggs. Sainsbury's in Liphook has sold out completely, but Morrisons in Portsmouth has Happy Eggs ( free range ) on sale for 10 pence for 12. Fresh food is on offer at silly prices late in the day, for example, a large, healthy fennel bulb was for sale at 5 pence - normal price one pound twenty. Tinned sardines, soups and meats are often sold out.

I've found some beds of wild garlic, and I'll grow some of that in a washing up bowl in the van. I've also got a load of potatoes, as they seem to keep for a long time. The healthiest vegetable you can obtain is the stinging nettle, and those are free and abundant in the UK. I'll keep a look out for some road kill pheasant and deer as well.
1640  Other / Off-topic / Re: I'm done with Coronavirus, let's hack this shit! on: March 13, 2020, 06:46:22 PM
I gather Facebook is demonetising videos that mention it, so they are using "honey badger" instead for some reason.
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